7:54 *Negativity behind language* “Psychoanalysis sort of acknowledges the fact that our own blind spot is very much subjectivity itself. We can’t really ever know ourselves, we can’t ever grasp all the knowledge that we have because we are our own void-you know we occupy a nothingness. And we have to sort of cast out into the world some sense of identity by virtue of language. So as soon as we’ve said, _’I am this person who is doing this…’_ we’ve already detached ourselves from the ‘I’ who speaks.”
1:03:31 *robotic meat commodities* “What it feels like is that we’re moving towards a society where it’s valuable not to create AI, but just to get humans to act robotically. You know there’s a move towards human behavior becoming more mechanical-we’ve mistaken the machinic metaphor through which we understand human biology and the human brain for the _actual._ It’s what’s driving all of these narratives and what we’re ending up with is a human being that only feels normal if it is able to express itself in very binary ways.”
I'm sorry for this lenghty rant, and I have to say Isabel Millar is brilliant and brings out very interesting points. BUT; I disagree with the idea that humans have been 'denaturalized', 'at some point'. Are bees or ants denaturalized when they start only eating stuff that they have to process (that doesn't exist 'naturally') or is a raven denaturalized when it uses tools and a mental scheme to solve a puzzle to get something it wants? Also, Elon is just a person wrangled with his own humanity just like any other human. He is a prime player of capitalism, which IMO is a fvcked up syatem but it is the only game in town, but he is certainly not doing all the things he is doing because 'he is' capitalism. Bunch of billionaires hadn't, and wouldn't come even close. He is also, and most importantly a "cosmist", for lack of a better word. Also, whats up with this bashing of longevity? This effort to paint people interested in longevity as a sorry bunch who can't connect with other humans is frankly absurd and incredebly agressive. In today's world anything that has the faintest suspicion of 'hubris' or 'egoism' is met with outright loath or disgust. When Luke talks about preserving 'civilization', is he forgetting that this is made up of INDIVIDUALS? Consciousness doesn't reside in organizations nor in states or nations or civilizations or the intetnet, it is only found on the individual, so to preserve the most important thing we know of, we must preserve individuals, and of course I would like to be one of those individuals because I only know my mind, nothing else, who wouldn't? But I am also rooting for Kurzweil and Musk and cryogenics and longevity even if I don't get to see it for myself out of indignation of all the hate they get which is pretty undeserved, and should be targeted IMHO to every status-quo apologist who has some notion of the vast amount of suffering in the world but is content with her/his life doing relatively fine, including all religions and systems that preserve ignorance, superstition and allegiance to the herd. Cheers!
7:54 *Negativity behind language* “Psychoanalysis sort of acknowledges the fact that our own blind spot is very much subjectivity itself. We can’t really ever know ourselves, we can’t ever grasp all the knowledge that we have because we are our own void-you know we occupy a nothingness. And we have to sort of cast out into the world some sense of identity by virtue of language. So as soon as we’ve said, _’I am this person who is doing this…’_ we’ve already detached ourselves from the ‘I’ who speaks.”
1:03:31 *robotic meat commodities* “What it feels like is that we’re moving towards a society where it’s valuable not to create AI, but just to get humans to act robotically. You know there’s a move towards human behavior becoming more mechanical-we’ve mistaken the machinic metaphor through which we understand human biology and the human brain for the _actual._ It’s what’s driving all of these narratives and what we’re ending up with is a human being that only feels normal if it is able to express itself in very binary ways.”
"There is thinking, therefore something exists"
This is the mistake of modernity and of the western world in general.
@@fabsca1970 said the promoter of obscurantism and rejecter of imaginative creativity.
I'm sorry for this lenghty rant, and I have to say Isabel Millar is brilliant and brings out very interesting points. BUT;
I disagree with the idea that humans have been 'denaturalized', 'at some point'. Are bees or ants denaturalized when they start only eating stuff that they have to process (that doesn't exist 'naturally') or is a raven denaturalized when it uses tools and a mental scheme to solve a puzzle to get something it wants?
Also, Elon is just a person wrangled with his own humanity just like any other human. He is a prime player of capitalism, which IMO is a fvcked up syatem but it is the only game in town, but he is certainly not doing all the things he is doing because 'he is' capitalism. Bunch of billionaires hadn't, and wouldn't come even close. He is also, and most importantly a "cosmist", for lack of a better word.
Also, whats up with this bashing of longevity? This effort to paint people interested in longevity as a sorry bunch who can't connect with other humans is frankly absurd and incredebly agressive. In today's world anything that has the faintest suspicion of 'hubris' or 'egoism' is met with outright loath or disgust. When Luke talks about preserving 'civilization', is he forgetting that this is made up of INDIVIDUALS? Consciousness doesn't reside in organizations nor in states or nations or civilizations or the intetnet, it is only found on the individual, so to preserve the most important thing we know of, we must preserve individuals, and of course I would like to be one of those individuals because I only know my mind, nothing else, who wouldn't? But I am also rooting for Kurzweil and Musk and cryogenics and longevity even if I don't get to see it for myself out of indignation of all the hate they get which is pretty undeserved, and should be targeted IMHO to every status-quo apologist who has some notion of the vast amount of suffering in the world but is content with her/his life doing relatively fine, including all religions and systems that preserve ignorance, superstition and allegiance to the herd.
Cheers!