Praise God that He loves the world so much that He is cleaning up His house. Everything that has been covered up in His house will be exposed. This is a very positive thing and we should all be encouraged by it. As believers we must ALL learn to repent quickly and stop playing with sin.
PRAY for all (leaders, especially) who spearheaded, supported, participated in, etc the Isaiah 62 fast in May 2023. Keep praying for Israel. And pray for the whole truth to come forth without premature judgement or assumptions - and for healings and restorations for all.
I understand we do not want to spread lies or gossip but I do think it is OK that we hold our senior leaders accountable, and find more information on what is really going on and letting others know about this is OK as it’s about truth and learning from these leaders’ mistakes, Forgiveness, praying for them, that there will be church leadership accountability & discipline-which is such a problem as there is not the proper accountability and these pastors have way too much un-accountability and fall into sin. My church right now is going through this and it’s a travesty. 😢
I just did a video about this, where Lou Engle on stage in front of Mike Bickle (after Mike had finished praising him) had the humility to come unscripted before the masses he had preached to and confess to a sexual sin issue. Why are men like him not held up more as an example in the body of Christ?
the church is so uncomfortable to talk about sex in general and yet this is one of the biggest problems in our society today and our senior pastors/leaders falling from sexual sins is an epidemic, if the church can't talk about it, we can't help others nor ourselves, this is a travesty! @@wordsoflife42
Referring to someone as “an accuser of the brethren” suggests the person is doing the devil’s work, which, in this case, implies that Mike is being wrongfully accused. However, even though satan is the accuser of the brethren, it does not mean his accusations are always false. While a person who accuses a brother or sister in Christ of wrongdoing doing could be called an accuser of the brethren, it does not mean that person is a messenger of satan, one who is doing the devil’s work. Some accusations are justified, such as when Jesus said: “Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.” ~ John 5:45 The Lord did not refer to Moses as being an accuser of the brethren. The Lord commands us to not judge by appearances but to judge righteous judgment. Sometimes it is best to recuse ourselves from certain cases…⚖️
Let’s take that one step further. The role of an accuser was a judicial role in Hebrew society, which can be likened to public prosecutor in your American system. Except it didn’t function in a court of justice but a kings court. This is why in Numbers 22:32 the Angel of the Lord made himself a withstander (hebrew literal: satan) against Balaam for striking his donkey that prophecied. This is also why most scholars will agree that the satan figure in the book of Job is a divine council member acting in this capacity (just like 1 Kings 22 has one acting as a lying spirit for God in the mouths of Ahabs prophets to lure him into defeat), not the literal ha’satan snake / throne guardian of Genesis that Jesus addresses in the new testament. Recommend Michael Heisers books on divine council for more info. Digesting all this theologically, the accuser of the brethren is evil when bearing false accusation or heaping up guilt and shame for what has correctly been processed, confessed appropriately, repented, restituted and forgiven - none of which seems the case here sadly - but if you feel threatened by just exposure and questioning of unrepented sin and aggravating lies, manipulation and avoidance, could it be the angel of the Lord making himself an opposer? Could it be the Holy Spirit convicting and convincing His body to raise the plumbline of accountability and integrity in response to those who have hurt ‘little ones’ they were given charge over? I understand the heart James and dr. Michael Brown have in not wanting this to become a public spectacle, but silence in the face of systemic abuse is not righteous. Had IHOP taken the correct steps in negotiation and agreement with the advocacy group, people would have given so much grace and patience, but the twisting and faux righteousness and smearing of complainants has elicited a body-wide defensive response to address this infection in His bride.
This is extremely one-sided, at a time when being one sided is lethal. Recall also in Corinthians that Paul severely rebuked the Corinthians for tolerating sexual sin in their camp..He said, “why did you not pray so that this one would be removed from your midst”Paul said, “you have not done well.”If we ignore sexual sin, serial sin, sin over decades, and say ‘oh, I don’t want to judge it.. It’s holy to be silent and look in the other direction.”God will judge the entire community. Don’t tell me I don’t have authority because you say so. Jesus Christ gave each Believer a grant of power. “ I give you power over all the power of the enemy.” Jesus created a community of Kings and priests. We do not have to fear to follow the Bible apply the Bible and earnestness integrity and truth. Don’t tell me not to step outside of my scope of authority. You have taken on too much for yourself to keep down the body of believers from full maturity in Christ. This is wrong. Paul said , “I have turned this one over to Satan so that his body will be tormented and his soul saved”. He told the community to come together and judge this one. Enough of those who believe that they can tell another believer stay in your place, as if you were the one who handed out the places in the kingdom. This kind of arrogance has caused the church to be weak and wrong. Why don’t you want the victims to have care? Why do you address all your remarks toward Mike Bickle? Let’s just put a name on this. I don’t want to be coy. You stop it. What word do you have for those who have suffered, who have been left in the dust, manipulated, controlled and sent away. In Ezekiel God said I will contend with my shepherds who have not defended the sheep. How is it that you know that the sheep we’re just fine and all of their cries of pain are lies. You don’t know. Maybe you shouldn’t get on and see these things and further crush the victims. Here’s a prayer: father, in the name of Jesus, fix the perverted heart of the church, which would prefer to embrace a perpetrator and scorne the victims. The church elites have been content to have the victims, go away, sad and abused, because they are not high and mighty. They do not see as you see. Lord God go after the little lambs and save them, but I ask you also to turn on the shepherds, who have devoured the sheep just as you promised, in Ezekiel. You are not a God who winks at sin. I ask you crush this kind of thinking, and make our hearts new and pure, so that the stench of prejudice toward power and contempt for weakness will be forever removed from the heart of the bride. Amen.
It seems to me that a different gospel is being preached by these ‘ anointed’ apostles and prophets today and that anyone who questions their take is called accusing and lacking love. We need to pray for discernment and be a Berea in this most deceptive hour that Jesus warned about🙏🙏
ALWAYS Obey The WORD OF THE LORD GOD and let THE LORD LEAD YOU. There is a MIXTURE and you will fall if your eyes are focused on any human including mr goll. In Matthew 23:8-10 we are commanded to KNOW THE LORD GOD as Our ONLY Teacher and FATHER. HE leads us by HIS PEACE within us - Colossians 3:15, Isaiah 55:12, John 14:27, Ephesians 2:14
Great advice James. Bless you for taking the courage and boldness to warn people of the dangers lurking to open up the wrong doors in their own life. May you find peace and rest in Him. Thank you James
Much of the controversy surrounding these type situations would be resolved much more quickly, if the people involved would be honest about their sin just as David was when confronted by the prophet Nathan’s, “Thou art the man!” David’s response was that of quick repentance! When a minister with a public platform falls into immorality, the people who are part of that ministry and those influenced by that person’s ministry have a right to know the truth. Mutual accountability is the prophetic word for the day- one-sided accountability is slavery or no accountability at all. The Bible says reprove sin before all, that all may fear and tremble. This scripture is in regards to those in authority. We should of course deal with sin in others with an attitude of restorative love, even as God does with us individually.🙏
This guy is using the same scriptures as Rick Joyner about restoring the one who has sinned in a spirit of gentleness….. the thing is that scripture is talking about when someone has sinned and is sorry and needs to be supported , it is not talking about when a leader in the church is accused by many witnesses of serious sexual misconduct. These leaders seem more concerned about protecting someone’s name and ‘anointing’ rather than uncovering the truth🙏
We are called to judge the Church. Everyone is entitled to being innocent before being proven guilty, however I find it interesting that they are talking about restoring Mr. Bickle to leadership when the investigation hasn't even been completed. What about finding Truth first? Then restoring THE Victims ( if applicable). It's about the victims and restoration of the alleged perpetrator is the last thing we should be discussing!
What I understood from what he's said is that we as brethren should not get involved in discussing any of this but we should be praying for everyone involved. He's said if you don't know any of the people, you're unlikely to know any actual facts. We shouldn't gossip or make up our own conclusions which we then share. This is our opinion and we are in danger because we will be held accountable & judged for it. Pray pray pray. Seek God and ask for His will to be done in this situation. His mercy & healing for ALL. He who is without sin cast the first stone.
I agree. This is a life of hypocrisy that Mike Bickle lived. This is not a one time missing the mark. A spiritual leadership in years of sexual sins. Shame on anyone who tried to deal with this lightly and wants this man restored. How are you reading your Bible? This is very telling on all these well known persons in ministry coming out with hardly a word for the victims in this case. How are all these young people going to digest this. Who will help them. Where are the leaders going to i hop having a healing service there 😭. This is telling me I don't need this leadership. Mike Bickle should be restored, or should the victims of that ministry be restored.
And all of them have made a cushy living leading people away from the true gospel of repentance of sin and love fear and obedience to God...they all are knights of Malta...that's from the devil...this is no different than Scientology only far deadlier as Satan has given it a Jesus wrapper
It’s not about condemnation ,it’s about finding out the truth and bringing appropriate church discipline ( which means disqualification from leadership ministry ) IF the evidence of wrongdoing is forthcoming .That’s what the bible instructs🙏
Excellent! Yes we have to PRAY and not judge! Mercy trumps over judgement! DO NOT GET CAUGHT UP IN THE WAR OF WORDS! True it is not my business nor my sphere of authority! PRAY FOR THOSE IN AUTHORITY 🙏🙏🙏 Thank you for your timely message
We are TOLD TO TEST EVERY SPIRIT - 1John 4:1. It is a HUMBLE heart before The LORD GOD where you will find THE INSTRUCTION of The LORD - not humans like james goll. Remember that The LORD JESUS has made us to be JUST AS HE IS on this earth - 1John 4:17. There is NO LEADERSHIP hierarchy except the roman catholic tradition that has been imported into christianity. We are all ONE and JOINT HEIRS with The LORD JESUS - Romans 8:17. The LORD tested the fruit of the religious leaders of HIS day and called them HYPOCRITES and snakes. PRAY FOR YOUR LEADERS AS YOU ARE LED BY THE LORD not from some dead letter of the bible mentality - 2Corinthians 3:6. I am an intercessor and a BATTLEAXE as called by The FATHER and I pray with The AUTHORITY OF THE LORD JESUS being HIS BODY. I am conscious of the cleansing of the earth and my "prayers" can be LOUD and warlike destroying the strategies of the enemy and they are often directed at The LIARS and HYPOCRITES to bring them down, especially those in denominations that preach against THE INFILLING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT with The EVIDENCE of speaking in other Tongues. (Acts 2:36-39, 10:44-48, 19:1-6). When they fall I REJOICE - did the Israelites cry when their enemies were destroyed? NO and NO again. It is RELIGIOUS garbage to teach otherwise. Do you have a PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP with The LORD JESUS CHRIST as HE Wills so that you can ask HIM as Your ONLY TEACHER what HIS Will is in each situation? Read Matthew 23:8-10, John 17. When you are REDEEMED according to Acts 2:36-39 and are not contaminated by the spirit of paganism including the sun god worship paganism of roman catholicism present in ALL CHRISTIANITY at different levels, you will SEE CLEARLY IN THE SPIRIT in your INTERACTIONS with The FATHER.
You said for everyone to stay in our own lane while you are weaving in and out of traffic…really? And saying judge not or will be judged is cherry picking to defend people you know. Actually we judge every day of our lives and if we didn’t it would be total anarchy. When we see any situation that seems shady, we judge if it is necessary to intervene and call the police, or a child that shouldn’t be in somebodies arms or etc etc. Create your own what if scenario and fill in your own blanks. Morally is no different. We are to call out a brother(only way to do that is a judgement) who is sinning without repentance and restore him sure, but not back into ministry if it’s a major failure. And when you don’t put any real emphasis on the “ potential” victims throughout the years until much further in your video while propping up one of the “greatest ministries in world”… The good old boys club has always been around and sadly is deeply engrained in our church and the victim is almost always swept under the carpet for the greater good. When woke collided with the church a spiritual messy diaper was left needing to be changed. Looking at the word as a whole, judgement yes, but we better use a whole lot of love, tenderness, mercy etc etc when we speak because we will be judged BY THE SAME STANDARD by which we judged another. Lord Jesus come quickly
ALWAYS Obey The WORD OF THE LORD GOD and let THE LORD LEAD YOU. There is a MIXTURE and you will fall if your eyes are focused on any human including mr goll. In Matthew 23:8-10 we are commanded to KNOW THE LORD GOD as Our ONLY Teacher and FATHER. HE leads us by HIS PEACE within us - Colossians 3:15, Isaiah 55:12, John 14:27, Ephesians 2:14
Excellent mature word rightly ministering the Right way to deal with it God's in this to do it right and let him bring the result in the healing manner love it ❤
Our world has turned upside down, before it will turn right side up. Behind you, your books are upside down, lets turn them right side up. 🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤Amen pray in authority, the accused and wounded people. Amen
Hi James (Jim), Thank you for your tears. When I first heard, I had the impulse to cry from a deep place in my soul. It’s not a time for “virtue signaling.” It’s a time to humble oneself. Following the impulse to cry, came the impulse to lower my head and shut my mouth. It is indeed time for a dirge. Your friend, Melinda Fish {
Thank you for those words, brother. It is the wisdom of God. Which one of us has not been in the place of needing restoration. The Spirit brings healing. May the leadership involved be filled with wisdom and grace.
Thank you, brother. I have been and will continue to be in deep prayer for EVERYONE involved. This is a Body of Christ issue. We pray protection and Holy Spirit's power over ALL who are involved - conviction and peace. This is how the Body should work. It's how our bodies work. The enemy wants nothing more than to kill, steal and destroy. LORD, silence those who foolishly hurl the words of the accuser in Jesus' Name.
Wow! I love your articulation of things and how you are true. I agree with what you said and I use these times to check and guard my mouth when I don’t know the completeness of what is really going on.
ALWAYS Obey The WORD OF THE LORD GOD and let THE LORD LEAD YOU. There is a MIXTURE and you will fall if your eyes are focused on any human including mr goll. In Matthew 23:8-10 we are commanded to KNOW THE LORD GOD as Our ONLY Teacher and FATHER. HE leads us by HIS PEACE within us - Colossians 3:15, Isaiah 55:12, John 14:27, Ephesians 2:14
we are to test ALL things, how do we know the you heard the voice of God? If Bickle is guilty there is forgiveness IF there is confession of the truth and repentance, if Bickle is innocent then he is free. There needs to be a real investigation by a neutral body. There is a difference between satan's accusation and possible victims accusations.
I am so happy that this blessed man of God and a humble and gifted teacher and father is still alive and well. I look forward to being under his live teaching again at the right time by God's special grace. God bless and protect and expand your ministries sir. You are more than a blessing to the body of Christ.
ALWAYS Obey The WORD OF THE LORD GOD and let THE LORD LEAD YOU. There is a MIXTURE and you will fall if your eyes are focused on any human including mr goll. In Matthew 23:8-10 we are commanded to KNOW THE LORD GOD as Our ONLY Teacher and FATHER. HE leads us by HIS PEACE within us - Colossians 3:15, Isaiah 55:12, John 14:27, Ephesians 2:14
But today we are living with modern technologies that will present itself as reality. This will cause the innocent to look guilty. We have to be aware of all of the new weapons that the enemy has in his arsenal. There is a lot of hidden knowledge that will now have to be revealed to the end time church in order to win this battle. There is a lot of work ahead. May God help us. Amen.
Mr. Goll If You Saw Something Say Something! I’ll pray for Mike I’ll pray for all the members of IHOP all the leadership! I am also praying for the victims and their families! There have been many men of God who no one thought could do the things that were found out about them here are some examples J. Baker, R Zachirais, T. Haggard, E. Paulik, C. Lentz, B. Houston, I will stand for those hurt by him and other leadership. All of it will come out! Many at IHOP that have been staff who have put their reputations on the line are aligning with victims! This ministry was started by false pretenses it is very sad! Your explanation has broken my heart as i have your books and believed what you said until now! Praying for you!
ALWAYS Obey The WORD OF THE LORD GOD and let THE LORD LEAD YOU. There is a MIXTURE and you will fall if your eyes are focused on any human including mr goll. In Matthew 23:8-10 we are commanded to KNOW THE LORD GOD as Our ONLY Teacher and FATHER. HE leads us by HIS PEACE within us - Colossians 3:15, Isaiah 55:12, John 14:27, Ephesians 2:14
Yes we cannot judge like that, that said we must in love explain what sin is so that we can preach the Word correctly and to tell people what to repent of and believe....
The Lord has been giving me dreams for decades, 28 days before the allegations came out I had a dream of Mike Bickle, ihop, and a young son of the House. I’m not at all associated with anyone there. This epic dream was full of dialogue, paragraphs of commentary, through out the dream. About misunderstanding, aught, rift, and the operating system of division strife and every evil work, a dream that had a teacher in the middle of it all, instructing, counseling, sermonette’ ing on the ministry of reconciliation. Volumes of in formation😢Shifting the tide. I even gave a message out of the dream to our furnace room partners. While at the same time pretty much grieving that you can’t just call a church secretary any more and just leave a message.
Of my own adventures, shall I call them, the Lord remarked, “You cannot judge the design of a path you have not taken…You must walk it out by Faith.” If I cannot understand my own path, how could I judge another’s? We can, and must, say and do as God says in a matter, not taking things into our own hands. I’m just praying for God’s solutions.
As difficult as it is to see Christian leaders fall, I urge us to not lose heart. In 2017 the Lord showed me in a powerful dream that a great move of God's Spirit is coming, BUT those leaders who have exalted themselves above others will be excluded. I see what's happening now with leaders being exposed as a direct fulfilment of that prophetic dream. We cannot stop this; I believe it's Jesus cleansing the Temple once again. Beware of any "leader" (👆) who is now trying to run cover for those whom God is exposing. They're next.
I have really tough question. Don't you think, that some high profile leaders in the body of Christ are partly responsible (not guilty) for their compromise and silence in cases of spiritual and sexual abuses, especially, when spiritual and sexual abuse did the other high profile leaders?
I agree. I do not believe God is telling anyone to gossip about their interpretation of facts regarding rumors about anyone. Let the facts and those in charge find the truth.
I was warned in a dream not to wish evil on my enemies. I was told whatever people wish on others will be done to them. And the male voice said, and it's just like that!
Love - "Let's walk a higher way. Let's be people of solutions and not people who add to a complex situation. Samuel addressed it as a dirge: How have the mighty fallen!"
You know I do want to recommend that in the future before we hire anybody for ministry and a leader ship position of any kind from janitor Sunday school teacher choir member praise member orchestra, member groundskeeper we have to know what their background is they should be vetted before they’re on the property to save lawsuits to save horrible situation even like this I’m sure if my kid had a full background check, his character would’ve emerged. He would’ve had arrests in this area, and everybody would’ve been given a great pause in which to hire him. The day and which were living in, we have to know the backgrounds of people we just have to I recommend it highly
The Bible says that we have to be surrendered to the Lord have a personal relationship with him and be filled with the Holy Spirit confess your a sinner, thank God for paying for your sins on the cross, ask him to be your Lord and Savior (He wants a personal relationship with you his beloved) get yourself a Bible you can understand and start reading the New Testament start in the book of Matthew, pray before you read it, prayers just talking to the Lord and letting him know your struggles, asking him to help you do the right thing. Every morning when you wake up asked to be filled with the Holy Spirit a new , The Holy Spirit will be with you - He is your counselor and your comforter😁🕊
Words of wisdom that align with what James said. 📘 If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you. 📙 Likewise, the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark. 6 The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of one’s life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell. We need to master our tongue and speak words of wisdom.
Truth be told people just talk .but we learning .be careful how you use words .don't be made ashamed .walk away from opposition. Give to GOD .SOME NOT ON A SPIIRIT LEVEL.
You are one of my favorite authors from way back when and I looked forward to each one of your books and have bought several. It was great to get to finally see and hear you online for the first time years ago and find out you are so dramatic-like Kuhlman, for one example, and Moses, for another. 😊. I’m still praying for your back problems and just wanted to share with you something I just learned recently that sounds promising. For chronic ongoing pain, specialists can actually kill one tiny nerve strand that is causing all this horrible offense! I believe I heard it was in the leg, but maybe they can fix the back, too. In a vision, I was reclining on my bed and looking down at the carpet. Suddenly! A few different species of insects (with stingers) came toward each other, all at once. They began to fight each other and really worked up a frenzied swirling battle. I was wondering if our enemies are beginning to look at each other? I know I’m not the only one praying for them to get what they deserve. What do you think? I apologize if I’m driving in the wrong lane, but the Holy Spirit has taught me through people like you. Don’t hold back if you feel like you need to set me straight. I’m armored. 😅.
When i was young my mother showed me that whenever I give..to let go of it totally w any gift (or don’t give ..or wait until you can let go of issue w how they spend or use the gift). With ministries were not really “buying” anything to “own” anything..like a stockholder whatnot-its giving to Kingdom 🕊
@@hennablossoms77 yes I agree on the freely given side of an offering but I’m talking about accountability to those that have attached themselves through the act of support, monetarily and otherwise.
@@hennablossoms77 if you donated to my ministry for is to feed the poor and I don’t am account should be held and openness should be given on my part to those who supported
If one is led to give, they are only responsible for their obedience. If you give to the Lord, once the money leaves you it belongs to God. Your obedience is what brings reward. We are not appointed to police the money! It was an act of obedience. Even if One person in a large ministry is under accusation, it does not mean that God isn’t moving. That would be inappropriately judging every other person ❤️🙏🏼❤️
Men have gathered together and anointed themselves as leaders.
You got it brother!! Notice they never warn people about sin and the wrath to come or call out to the lost...they stumble new lambs...
Praise God that He loves the world so much that He is cleaning up His house. Everything that has been covered up in His house will be exposed. This is a very positive thing and we should all be encouraged by it. As believers we must ALL learn to repent quickly and stop playing with sin.
PRAY for all (leaders, especially) who spearheaded, supported, participated in, etc the Isaiah 62 fast in May 2023.
Keep praying for Israel.
And pray for the whole truth to come forth without premature judgement or assumptions - and for healings and restorations for all.
I understand we do not want to spread lies or gossip but I do think it is OK that we hold our senior leaders accountable, and find more information on what is really going on and letting others know about this is OK as it’s about truth and learning from these leaders’ mistakes, Forgiveness, praying for them, that there will be church leadership accountability & discipline-which is such a problem as there is not the proper accountability and these pastors have way too much un-accountability and fall into sin. My church right now is going through this and it’s a travesty. 😢
I just did a video about this, where Lou Engle on stage in front of Mike Bickle (after Mike had finished praising him) had the humility to come unscripted before the masses he had preached to and confess to a sexual sin issue. Why are men like him not held up more as an example in the body of Christ?
the church is so uncomfortable to talk about sex in general and yet this is one of the biggest problems in our society today and our senior pastors/leaders falling from sexual sins is an epidemic, if the church can't talk about it, we can't help others nor ourselves, this is a travesty! @@wordsoflife42
Referring to someone as “an accuser of the brethren” suggests the person is doing the devil’s work, which, in this case, implies that Mike is being wrongfully accused. However, even though satan is the accuser of the brethren, it does not mean his accusations are always false. While a person who accuses a brother or sister in Christ of wrongdoing doing could be called an accuser of the brethren, it does not mean that person is a messenger of satan, one who is doing the devil’s work. Some accusations are justified, such as when Jesus said:
“Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.” ~ John 5:45
The Lord did not refer to Moses as being an accuser of the brethren.
The Lord commands us to not judge by appearances but to judge righteous judgment. Sometimes it is best to recuse ourselves from certain cases…⚖️
Good word!
True, abusers and narcisistcs use this tactic all the time
Let’s take that one step further. The role of an accuser was a judicial role in Hebrew society, which can be likened to public prosecutor in your American system. Except it didn’t function in a court of justice but a kings court. This is why in Numbers 22:32 the Angel of the Lord made himself a withstander (hebrew literal: satan) against Balaam for striking his donkey that prophecied. This is also why most scholars will agree that the satan figure in the book of Job is a divine council member acting in this capacity (just like 1 Kings 22 has one acting as a lying spirit for God in the mouths of Ahabs prophets to lure him into defeat), not the literal ha’satan snake / throne guardian of Genesis that Jesus addresses in the new testament. Recommend Michael Heisers books on divine council for more info.
Digesting all this theologically, the accuser of the brethren is evil when bearing false accusation or heaping up guilt and shame for what has correctly been processed, confessed appropriately, repented, restituted and forgiven - none of which seems the case here sadly - but if you feel threatened by just exposure and questioning of unrepented sin and aggravating lies, manipulation and avoidance, could it be the angel of the Lord making himself an opposer? Could it be the Holy Spirit convicting and convincing His body to raise the plumbline of accountability and integrity in response to those who have hurt ‘little ones’ they were given charge over?
I understand the heart James and dr. Michael Brown have in not wanting this to become a public spectacle, but silence in the face of systemic abuse is not righteous. Had IHOP taken the correct steps in negotiation and agreement with the advocacy group, people would have given so much grace and patience, but the twisting and faux righteousness and smearing of complainants has elicited a body-wide defensive response to address this infection in His bride.
Good word James! It’s better to pray for others from a pure heart than a heart that judges.
You're in SIN and rebellion against the WORD of GOD...grow up and repent....
This is extremely one-sided, at a time when being one sided is lethal. Recall also in Corinthians that Paul severely rebuked the Corinthians for tolerating sexual sin in their camp..He said, “why did you not pray so that this one would be removed from your midst”Paul said, “you have not done well.”If we ignore sexual sin, serial sin, sin over decades, and say ‘oh, I don’t want to judge it.. It’s holy to be silent and look in the other direction.”God will judge the entire community.
Don’t tell me I don’t have authority because you say so. Jesus Christ gave each Believer a grant of power. “ I give you power over all the power of the enemy.” Jesus created a community of Kings and priests. We do not have to fear to follow the Bible apply the Bible and earnestness integrity and truth. Don’t tell me not to step outside of my scope of authority. You have taken on too much for yourself to keep down the body of believers from full maturity in Christ. This is wrong.
Paul said , “I have turned this one over to Satan so that his body will be tormented and his soul saved”. He told the community to come together and judge this one. Enough of those who believe that they can tell another believer stay in your place, as if you were the one who handed out the places in the kingdom. This kind of arrogance has caused the church to be weak and wrong.
Why don’t you want the victims to have care? Why do you address all your remarks toward Mike Bickle? Let’s just put a name on this. I don’t want to be coy. You stop it. What word do you have for those who have suffered, who have been left in the dust, manipulated, controlled and sent away. In Ezekiel God said I will contend with my shepherds who have not defended the sheep. How is it that you know that the sheep we’re just fine and all of their cries of pain are lies. You don’t know. Maybe you shouldn’t get on and see these things and further crush the victims. Here’s a prayer: father, in the name of Jesus, fix the perverted heart of the church, which would prefer to embrace a perpetrator and scorne the victims. The church elites have been content to have the victims, go away, sad and abused, because they are not high and mighty. They do not see as you see. Lord God go after the little lambs and save them, but I ask you also to turn on the shepherds, who have devoured the sheep just as you promised, in Ezekiel. You are not a God who winks at sin. I ask you crush this kind of thinking, and make our hearts new and pure, so that the stench of prejudice toward power and contempt for weakness will be forever removed from the heart of the bride. Amen.
It seems to me that a different gospel is being preached by these ‘ anointed’ apostles and prophets today and that anyone who questions their take is called accusing and lacking love. We need to pray for discernment and be a Berea in this most deceptive hour that Jesus warned about🙏🙏
Zeal for His house consumed Jesus. God’s righteous zeal is coming forth in this hour!
Excellenty said!! Thank you.
ALWAYS Obey The WORD OF THE LORD GOD and let THE LORD LEAD YOU. There is a MIXTURE and you will fall if your eyes are focused on any human including mr goll.
In Matthew 23:8-10 we are commanded to KNOW THE LORD GOD as Our ONLY Teacher and FATHER. HE leads us by HIS PEACE within us - Colossians 3:15, Isaiah 55:12, John 14:27, Ephesians 2:14
Well said. Bless you.
Great advice James. Bless you for taking the courage and boldness to warn people of the dangers lurking to open up the wrong doors in their own life. May you find peace and rest in Him. Thank you James
Much of the controversy surrounding these type situations would be resolved much more quickly, if the people involved would be honest about their sin just as David was when confronted by the prophet Nathan’s, “Thou art the man!” David’s response was that of quick repentance! When a minister with a public platform falls into immorality, the people who are part of that ministry and those influenced by that person’s ministry have a right to know the truth. Mutual accountability is the prophetic word for the day- one-sided accountability is slavery or no accountability at all. The Bible says reprove sin before all, that all may fear and tremble. This scripture is in regards to those in authority. We should of course deal with sin in others with an attitude of restorative love, even as God does with us individually.🙏
It brings tears to my eyes. Thank you for your timely reminder. I remember.
This guy is using the same scriptures as Rick Joyner about restoring the one who has sinned in a spirit of gentleness….. the thing is that scripture is talking about when someone has sinned and is sorry and needs to be supported , it is not talking about when a leader in the church is accused by many witnesses of serious sexual misconduct. These leaders seem more concerned about protecting someone’s name and ‘anointing’ rather than uncovering the truth🙏
Amen. Preach it!
We are called to judge the Church. Everyone is entitled to being innocent before being proven guilty, however I find it interesting that they are talking about restoring Mr. Bickle to leadership when the investigation hasn't even been completed. What about finding Truth first? Then restoring THE Victims ( if applicable). It's about the victims and restoration of the alleged perpetrator is the last thing we should be discussing!
What I understood from what he's said is that we as brethren should not get involved in discussing any of this but we should be praying for everyone involved. He's said if you don't know any of the people, you're unlikely to know any actual facts. We shouldn't gossip or make up our own conclusions which we then share. This is our opinion and we are in danger because we will be held accountable & judged for it.
Pray pray pray. Seek God and ask for His will to be done in this situation. His mercy & healing for ALL.
He who is without sin cast the first stone.
I agree. This is a life of hypocrisy that Mike Bickle lived. This is not a one time missing the mark. A spiritual leadership in years of sexual sins. Shame on anyone who tried to deal with this lightly and wants this man restored.
How are you reading your Bible?
This is very telling on all these well known persons in ministry coming out with hardly a word for the victims in this case. How are all these young people going to digest this. Who will help them.
Where are the leaders going to i hop having a healing service there 😭. This is telling me I don't need this leadership. Mike Bickle should be restored, or should the victims of that ministry be restored.
And all of them have made a cushy living leading people away from the true gospel of repentance of sin and love fear and obedience to God...they all are knights of Malta...that's from the devil...this is no different than Scientology only far deadlier as Satan has given it a Jesus wrapper
So good, soooo good! Apples of gold on a platter of silver❤
THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THE ELEPHANT IN THE CHURCH!❤❤❤❤❤
I agree with you only in one case: if abusers repent and change his way.
Thank you James Goll, great wisdom for such a time as this thank you!!!!!! Love you brother
You gotta be kidding!!
But for the grace of God, there go I. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
I thank God for His mercies which endure forever.
It’s not about condemnation ,it’s about finding out the truth and bringing appropriate church discipline ( which means disqualification from leadership ministry ) IF the evidence of wrongdoing is forthcoming .That’s what the bible instructs🙏
@@debravan-aalst4723 I never said otherwise.
Excellent! Yes we have to PRAY and not judge! Mercy trumps over judgement! DO NOT GET CAUGHT UP IN THE WAR OF WORDS! True it is not my business nor my sphere of authority! PRAY FOR THOSE IN AUTHORITY 🙏🙏🙏 Thank you for your timely message
I always remind myself by what God said to James Goll about War of Words- thanks✝️🕎🖖🏽💝🇿🇦
We are told to judge all things with the mind of Christ that we have been given ( 1 Cor.2:15-16)
We are TOLD TO TEST EVERY SPIRIT - 1John 4:1. It is a HUMBLE heart before The LORD GOD where you will find THE INSTRUCTION of The LORD - not humans like james goll. Remember that The LORD JESUS has made us to be JUST AS HE IS on this earth - 1John 4:17.
There is NO LEADERSHIP hierarchy except the roman catholic tradition that has been imported into christianity. We are all ONE and JOINT HEIRS with The LORD JESUS - Romans 8:17. The LORD tested the fruit of the religious leaders of HIS day and called them HYPOCRITES and snakes.
PRAY FOR YOUR LEADERS AS YOU ARE LED BY THE LORD not from some dead letter of the bible mentality - 2Corinthians 3:6. I am an intercessor and a BATTLEAXE as called by The FATHER and I pray with The AUTHORITY OF THE LORD JESUS being HIS BODY. I am conscious of the cleansing of the earth and my "prayers" can be LOUD and warlike destroying the strategies of the enemy and they are often directed at The LIARS and HYPOCRITES to bring them down, especially those in denominations that preach against THE INFILLING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT with The EVIDENCE of speaking in other Tongues. (Acts 2:36-39, 10:44-48, 19:1-6).
When they fall I REJOICE - did the Israelites cry when their enemies were destroyed? NO and NO again. It is RELIGIOUS garbage to teach otherwise.
Do you have a PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP with The LORD JESUS CHRIST as HE Wills so that you can ask HIM as Your ONLY TEACHER what HIS Will is in each situation? Read Matthew 23:8-10, John 17.
When you are REDEEMED according to Acts 2:36-39 and are not contaminated by the spirit of paganism including the sun god worship paganism of roman catholicism present in ALL CHRISTIANITY at different levels, you will SEE CLEARLY IN THE SPIRIT in your INTERACTIONS with The FATHER.
Love you James, thanks for all YOUR BOOKS, YOUR OBEDIENCE TO THE LORD❤❤
You said for everyone to stay in our own lane while you are weaving in and out of traffic…really? And saying judge not or will be judged is cherry picking to defend people you know. Actually we judge every day of our lives and if we didn’t it would be total anarchy. When we see any situation that seems shady, we judge if it is necessary to intervene and call the police, or a child that shouldn’t be in somebodies arms or etc etc. Create your own what if scenario and fill in your own blanks. Morally is no different. We are to call out a brother(only way to do that is a judgement) who is sinning without repentance and restore him sure, but not back into ministry if it’s a major failure. And when you don’t put any real emphasis on the “ potential” victims throughout the years until much further in your video while propping up one of the “greatest ministries in world”… The good old boys club has always been around and sadly is deeply engrained in our church and the victim is almost always swept under the carpet for the greater good. When woke collided with the church a spiritual messy diaper was left needing to be changed. Looking at the word as a whole, judgement yes, but we better use a whole lot of love, tenderness, mercy etc etc when we speak because we will be judged BY THE SAME STANDARD by which we judged another. Lord Jesus come quickly
Amen we need to be humble during these times.
Thank you James. It confirms on how I am to respond to others in difficult times. Bless you too.
Thank you brother James. Help us all Lord JESUS!!!
Let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall. Let mercy triumph over judgement 🙏
Amen 🕎✝️💝🖖🏽🇿🇦
ALWAYS Obey The WORD OF THE LORD GOD and let THE LORD LEAD YOU. There is a MIXTURE and you will fall if your eyes are focused on any human including mr goll.
In Matthew 23:8-10 we are commanded to KNOW THE LORD GOD as Our ONLY Teacher and FATHER. HE leads us by HIS PEACE within us - Colossians 3:15, Isaiah 55:12, John 14:27, Ephesians 2:14
Excellent mature word rightly ministering the Right way to deal with it God's in this to do it right and let him bring the result in the healing manner love it ❤
True. When one part of the Body of Christ hurts, the other parts feel it.
Yes & amen, brother. I agree with all of it. Many will be humbled if not careful. I’ve been reminded lately of Rick Joyner’s vision “The Final Quest”
Our world has turned upside down, before it will turn right side up. Behind you, your books are upside down, lets turn them right side up. 🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤Amen pray in authority, the accused and wounded people. Amen
Such a good Word. Thank you so much. Praying always.
Thank you Jesus 🙏🙏this is right on thank you for sharing the wisdom of the Lord Jesus🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
So wise, James. Thank you Holy Spirit. We agree.
Hi James (Jim), Thank you for your tears. When I first heard, I had the impulse to cry from a deep place in my soul. It’s not a time for “virtue signaling.” It’s a time to humble oneself. Following the impulse to cry, came the impulse to lower my head and shut my mouth. It is indeed time for a dirge. Your friend, Melinda Fish {
Bless you, and thank you, James.
Thank you for this! I am so sad for all this.
So wise! Thank you James for your direct and powerful word of exhortation.
From London UK. Sending love and blessings. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for those words, brother. It is the wisdom of God. Which one of us has not been in the place of needing restoration. The Spirit brings healing. May the leadership involved be filled with wisdom and grace.
Thank you, brother. I have been and will continue to be in deep prayer for EVERYONE involved. This is a Body of Christ issue. We pray protection and Holy Spirit's power over ALL who are involved - conviction and peace. This is how the Body should work. It's how our bodies work. The enemy wants nothing more than to kill, steal and destroy. LORD, silence those who foolishly hurl the words of the accuser in Jesus' Name.
Thank you for this message! I completely agree with you. So thankful for leaders that have influence speaking the truth! ❤
Accurate guidance. Thank you so much, Jim.
Thank you, James, for wisdom and a sound word.❤ 🙏
Thank you, James. ❤
Wow! I love your articulation of things and how you are true. I agree with what you said and I use these times to check and guard my mouth when I don’t know the completeness of what is really going on.
Thank you for this message ❤ from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
Wisdom! Heartfelt wisdom! Thank you, Lord Jesus, for such a compassionate leader! May we ALL listen to this word.
Prophet thank you for the awareness
Thank You Papa Goll for this word full of Wisdom and the Heart ♥️ of the Father
Papa Goll? Follow Jesus Christ
For sure! The wisest people in the world just mind their own business, stay out of drama and listen more than they talk.
Appreciate your wisdom, and it confirms what Holy Spirit has spoke in my spiritman ❤
Thank you for that!
Amen God bless you sir thanks
Excellent word !! ❤
Wise words to heed in the fear of the Lord. ❤
God bless you my brother James. We have to be part of the solution, not the problem, Love you in Jesus precious name🙏🔑
Thank you I needed to hear this
Thankyou James for your faithfulness to The Lord
Such a beautiful word of wisdom that I can lay hold to and apply in my walk and work
ALWAYS Obey The WORD OF THE LORD GOD and let THE LORD LEAD YOU. There is a MIXTURE and you will fall if your eyes are focused on any human including mr goll.
In Matthew 23:8-10 we are commanded to KNOW THE LORD GOD as Our ONLY Teacher and FATHER. HE leads us by HIS PEACE within us - Colossians 3:15, Isaiah 55:12, John 14:27, Ephesians 2:14
we are to test ALL things, how do we know the you heard the voice of God? If Bickle is guilty there is forgiveness IF there is confession of the truth and repentance, if Bickle is innocent then he is free. There needs to be a real investigation by a neutral body. There is a difference between satan's accusation and possible victims accusations.
I am so happy that this blessed man of God and a humble and gifted teacher and father is still alive and well. I look forward to being under his live teaching again at the right time by God's special grace. God bless and protect and expand your ministries sir. You are more than a blessing to the body of Christ.
ALWAYS Obey The WORD OF THE LORD GOD and let THE LORD LEAD YOU. There is a MIXTURE and you will fall if your eyes are focused on any human including mr goll.
In Matthew 23:8-10 we are commanded to KNOW THE LORD GOD as Our ONLY Teacher and FATHER. HE leads us by HIS PEACE within us - Colossians 3:15, Isaiah 55:12, John 14:27, Ephesians 2:14
@@ktermalkut8332 psalm 120:5.
We all need teachers in addition to the holy spirit and we are commanded to pray for our leaders. Shalom
Thanks
But today we are living with modern technologies that will present itself as reality. This will cause the innocent to look guilty. We have to be aware of all of the new weapons that the enemy has in his arsenal. There is a lot of hidden knowledge that will now have to be revealed to the end time church in order to win this battle. There is a lot of work ahead. May God help us. Amen.
Well said and Amen✝️🕎💝🖖🏽🇿🇦
Amen brother 🙏 🙌
Thanks Brother for the word you so right touched my heart from Muncie Ind
Amen Brother 🙏🏽
Amen! Galatians is powerful at this time♥️
Mr. Goll If You Saw Something Say Something! I’ll pray for Mike I’ll pray for all the members of IHOP all the leadership! I am also praying for the victims and their families! There have been many men of God who no one thought could do the things that were found out about them here are some examples J. Baker, R Zachirais, T. Haggard, E. Paulik, C. Lentz, B. Houston, I will stand for those hurt by him and other leadership. All of it will come out! Many at IHOP that have been staff who have put their reputations on the line are aligning with victims! This ministry was started by false pretenses it is very sad! Your explanation has broken my heart as i have your books and believed what you said until now! Praying for you!
Amen
ALWAYS Obey The WORD OF THE LORD GOD and let THE LORD LEAD YOU. There is a MIXTURE and you will fall if your eyes are focused on any human including mr goll.
In Matthew 23:8-10 we are commanded to KNOW THE LORD GOD as Our ONLY Teacher and FATHER. HE leads us by HIS PEACE within us - Colossians 3:15, Isaiah 55:12, John 14:27, Ephesians 2:14
@@ktermalkut8332 again, amen and amen
Loraine, how do you know how the ministry was started? Were you there?
great word
As one famous guy once said,”Let he who is without sin cast the first stone “❤️🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼❤️
Just a kind correction- it was not a famous guy- it was Jesus Christ who said so John 8:7
Love you lots✝️🕎💝🖖🏽🇿🇦
Yes we cannot judge like that, that said we must in love explain what sin is so that we can preach the Word correctly and to tell people what to repent of and believe....
John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgement.
Agree with yuo /Amen ❤
That being well said, 17:25 can fall under 'do not be deceived'. Timely when words are being flung about with emotions unchecked. ❤
The Lord has been giving me dreams for decades, 28 days before the allegations came out I had a dream of Mike Bickle, ihop, and a young son of the House. I’m not at all associated with anyone there. This epic dream was full of dialogue, paragraphs of commentary, through out the dream. About misunderstanding, aught, rift, and the operating system of division strife and every evil work, a dream that had a teacher in the middle of it all, instructing, counseling, sermonette’ ing on the ministry of reconciliation. Volumes of in formation😢Shifting the tide. I even gave a message out of the dream to our furnace room partners. While at the same time pretty much grieving that you can’t just call a church secretary any more and just leave a message.
Good Word Dr Goll.
Yes Hallelujah
Amen!!!
Of my own adventures, shall I call them, the Lord remarked, “You cannot judge the design of a path you have not taken…You must walk it out by Faith.” If I cannot understand my own path, how could I judge another’s? We can, and must, say and do as God says in a matter, not taking things into our own hands. I’m just praying for God’s solutions.
I think for any of us who give fianancially to IHOPKC, it IS our business. Yes, we pray, but there are other considerations.
You're right. It is our business. He's saying "look away, nothing to see here!" Why?
❤❤ Oh yes...Amen ❤😪
As difficult as it is to see Christian leaders fall, I urge us to not lose heart. In 2017 the Lord showed me in a powerful dream that a great move of God's Spirit is coming, BUT those leaders who have exalted themselves above others will be excluded.
I see what's happening now with leaders being exposed as a direct fulfilment of that prophetic dream. We cannot stop this; I believe it's Jesus cleansing the Temple once again.
Beware of any "leader" (👆) who is now trying to run cover for those whom God is exposing. They're next.
I have really tough question. Don't you think, that some high profile leaders in the body of Christ are partly responsible (not guilty) for their compromise and silence in cases of spiritual and sexual abuses, especially, when spiritual and sexual abuse did the other high profile leaders?
I agree. I do not believe God is telling anyone to gossip about their interpretation of facts regarding rumors about anyone. Let the facts and those in charge find the truth.
I was warned in a dream not to wish evil on my enemies. I was told whatever people wish on others will be done to them. And the male voice said, and it's just like that!
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We are under judgement.
Amen 🙏🏼 ❤
I have no idea what this is about. Probably a good thing.
Love - "Let's walk a higher way. Let's be people of solutions and not people who add to a complex situation. Samuel addressed it as a dirge: How have the mighty fallen!"
This video makes me wonder what James has been hiding. This is the year all things done in the dark come to light. You're next James
You know I do want to recommend that in the future before we hire anybody for ministry and a leader ship position of any kind from janitor Sunday school teacher choir member praise member orchestra, member groundskeeper we have to know what their background is they should be vetted before they’re on the property to save lawsuits to save horrible situation even like this I’m sure if my kid had a full background check, his character would’ve emerged. He would’ve had arrests in this area, and everybody would’ve been given a great pause in which to hire him.
The day and which were living in, we have to know the backgrounds of people we just have to I recommend it highly
The Bible says that we have to be surrendered to the Lord have a personal relationship with him and be filled with the Holy Spirit confess your a sinner, thank God for paying for your sins on the cross, ask him to be your Lord and Savior (He wants a personal relationship with you his beloved) get yourself a Bible you can understand and start reading the New Testament start in the book of Matthew, pray before you read it, prayers just talking to the Lord and letting him know your struggles, asking him to help you do the right thing. Every morning when you wake up asked to be filled with the Holy Spirit a new , The Holy Spirit will be with you - He is your counselor and your comforter😁🕊
Words of wisdom that align with what James said.
📘 If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you.
📙 Likewise, the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark. 6 The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of one’s life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.
We need to master our tongue and speak words of wisdom.
I thaught about you, James, because you are the friend of M. Yes, I pray for this situation. It's a little death for the church.
Hello James Goll! God is doing mighty things these days.
Well said...Selah
Truth be told people just talk .but we learning .be careful how you use words .don't be made ashamed .walk away from opposition. Give to GOD .SOME NOT ON A SPIIRIT LEVEL.
God hates gossip
You are one of my favorite authors from way back when and I looked forward to each one of your books and have bought several. It was great to get to finally see and hear you online for the first time years ago and find out you are so dramatic-like Kuhlman, for one example, and Moses, for another. 😊. I’m still praying for your back problems and just wanted to share with you something I just learned recently that sounds promising. For chronic ongoing pain, specialists can actually kill one tiny nerve strand that is causing all this horrible offense! I believe I heard it was in the leg, but maybe they can fix the back, too.
In a vision, I was reclining on my bed and looking down at the carpet. Suddenly! A few different species of insects (with stingers) came toward each other, all at once. They began to fight each other and really worked up a frenzied swirling battle.
I was wondering if our enemies are beginning to look at each other? I know I’m not the only one praying for them to get what they deserve. What do you think?
I apologize if I’m driving in the wrong lane, but the Holy Spirit has taught me through people like you. Don’t hold back if you feel like you need to set me straight. I’m armored. 😅.
I stand corrected on a few things...I am told JOSH CHAVEZ is quite the ladies man...
So is Jesus the same god as the god described in Deuteronomy chapter 28?
Repent Goll
Thank you. This is such a good reminder. We are family! Let's hold on to God's Words!
It is important not to gloat over a fallen leader.
You're looking at this all wrong. This man is a sexual predator. We should be more concerned about the victims.
"Don't speculate about our sin. Sit down and be quiet. Send positive vibes." Now lets get back to farming the innocent for cash
What about if your a giver into the ministry? Doesn’t it make it the business of those that have supported over the years?
When i was young my mother showed me that whenever I give..to let go of it totally w any gift (or don’t give ..or wait until you can let go of issue w how they spend or use the gift). With ministries were not really “buying” anything to “own” anything..like a stockholder whatnot-its giving to Kingdom 🕊
@@hennablossoms77 yes I agree on the freely given side of an offering but I’m talking about accountability to those that have attached themselves through the act of support, monetarily and otherwise.
@@hennablossoms77 if you donated to my ministry for is to feed the poor and I don’t am account should be held and openness should be given on my part to those who supported
There is one who judges- the accuser. There is one Judge, and He doesn’t need our help.
If one is led to give, they are only responsible for their obedience. If you give to the Lord, once the money leaves you it belongs to God. Your obedience is what brings reward.
We are not appointed to police the money! It was an act of obedience. Even if One person in a large ministry is under accusation, it does not mean that God isn’t moving. That would be inappropriately judging every other person ❤️🙏🏼❤️