You must control yourself before you control them

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  • Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
  • I didnt like the way Gandhi smiled at the end tho
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  • @notarabbit1752
    @notarabbit1752 4 місяці тому +223

    It's like the first rule of improv theater. You gotta accept your partner's premise. Never force your ideas or it will fall apart.

    • @Ledluver
      @Ledluver 4 місяці тому +10

      'Erm... No'

    • @Beoulve-p3i
      @Beoulve-p3i 4 місяці тому +14

      It’s an important factor but not the only one. You must identify your opponents premise but also be able to impose your own as well.

    • @Ledluver
      @Ledluver 4 місяці тому

      @@Beoulve-p3i 'get parried'🫸🦵

    • @nicholashall3117
      @nicholashall3117 4 місяці тому +2

      Never Say No! 😂 ​@Ledluver

    • @otterdonnelly9959
      @otterdonnelly9959 4 місяці тому +2

      Depends on the game. Sometimes you can just impose and go IFC.

  • @FrankenSteinsGate
    @FrankenSteinsGate 4 місяці тому +132

    Someone said this in a video a long time ago and it's stuck with me ever since: "when someone is telling you who they are, _listen to them_ "

  • @seven1544
    @seven1544 4 місяці тому +130

    Love when people talk passionately about what they like

  • @Tremuoso
    @Tremuoso 4 місяці тому +65

    dude I still think about the ghandi match all the time, love you bringing this one back up. honestly always thought this match should be as remembered and iconic as some of the great moments. it's pure textbook teaching material when it come to all those old age questions of how do I actually learn to win at fighting games, how do I actually play these games without just bashing my face on the buttons and hoping for the best. If i'm ever getting randomed out in a game where someone is being completely unpredictable and not "playing by the rules" so to speak, I always pause myself for a moment, slow myself down and say to myself "don't get ghandi'd" and wait for them to hang themselves.

  • @gooselover42069
    @gooselover42069 4 місяці тому +49

    Obama unlocking deep childhood memories with that Dudley Boyz footage

  • @ianshutt9444
    @ianshutt9444 4 місяці тому +66

    I will just say one thing, Gandhi has good oki.

  • @ZzigZaG00NIN
    @ZzigZaG00NIN 4 місяці тому +50

    I love the conversation analogy. Talking with your fist is something Ryu would say.
    When the people who are good at conversation are fighting the people who have a lot to say he word random comes up a lot of the time.
    It's hard to account for all the things someone could say 😂

  • @N00BSYBORG
    @N00BSYBORG 4 місяці тому +16

    There reaches a point where you're trying to operate on so many levels, you get tripped by level 1 tech because you aren't thinking about it anymore. You can only process so much of what's happening at any given moment. Knowing when it's time to dial it down and simplify things is a good skill to have not just for fgs but life in general.

  • @troyglossop1113
    @troyglossop1113 4 місяці тому +6

    i love how happy Ghandi is, he is playin the game his way. I hope he is having a good day

  • @ShotgunHobo7
    @ShotgunHobo7 4 місяці тому +16

    Really like this vid, like how you're looking at the Ghandi v. FSP match in a different light than Core-A Gaming did. Also, really liked the conversation metaphor cause it easily relates to both players, both aren't willing to have a conversation and commit to their gameplans, just one didn't realize all he to do was be patient and win.
    This stuff is great life advice as well. You reminded me of something my karate teacher said in passing once. "You should have the confidence to throw whatever attack you'll do, but you should have the knowledge to adapt whenever you need to."

  • @GGus776
    @GGus776 4 місяці тому +21

    Never a bad time to look back on one of the greatest sets of all time.

  • @EdTheCrimson
    @EdTheCrimson 4 місяці тому +7

    Videos like this are one of the reasons I love fighting games. There are things that would be considered, "The right thing to do", in most situations but in a different context are the wrong thing to do. Even a seasoned veteran of a game that has studied so many advanced techniques and set ups might actually need to throw that all away in a given moment to approach the match up with a much simpler strategy if the right opportunity presents itself. For me some of the most satisfying moments playing fighting games have been moments when I think I need to move one way, only to realize what is actually happening in realtime and correctly adjust for the moment.

  • @DevTwoThousand
    @DevTwoThousand 4 місяці тому +10

    The way we've all been there man.
    Sometimes you just walk into a tournament, or set, or even just a friendly match, a little too confident and have to deal with the ramifications of whatever you did to make you that confident not being enough that day.
    It's fucking tough having part of your view of yourself shatter in the relatively small scale stage of a video game, but holy hel does it hurt, man.

  • @xRhychux
    @xRhychux 4 місяці тому +4

    Sometimes i pull up this match to just run game 1 round one opening over and over again.
    That ryu opening series is iconic, and i mean that in the purest sense of the word lmao

  • @moonbeam2730
    @moonbeam2730 Місяць тому +1

    now that i'm playing fighting games regularly now this just hits so much different now

  • @slaycrol8424
    @slaycrol8424 4 місяці тому +4

    Needed to hear that today, its hard not to give in to your own ego and let that ruin your play. Sometimes you really just have to sit down and listen to what they are trying to tell you about themselves
    Thanks man

  • @anonymousnate678
    @anonymousnate678 4 місяці тому +4

    TLC at Mania X7 is a great example of how this over the top violence and carnage truly can be crafted into a work of art. One of the wrestling matches I show people when trying to make them understand why I love wrestling so much.

  • @robertrogers6487
    @robertrogers6487 4 місяці тому +2

    The reason I grew to love fighting games is because I realize the group was bonding over them. Playing together and showcasing personality traits that aren't as obvious outside of the scenario. It's also why I fell out of the fgc, it seems since the pandemic everyone just wants to brute force their gameplan Instantly instead of learning the opponent. Shits sad

  • @eduardoserpa1682
    @eduardoserpa1682 4 місяці тому +1

    Some of my favorite moments playing fighting games is when it clicks mid-match that I'm supposed to "do less", and then it works. The clock is running, I just have to use it. It's really easy to forget.

  • @chamcham123
    @chamcham123 2 місяці тому +2

    You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.

  • @Kralex121
    @Kralex121 4 місяці тому +3

    FSP vs Ghandi is such a legendary match. Always a great watch and an interesting case study to learn from.

  • @northofself
    @northofself 4 місяці тому +2

    No surprise Obama liked himself some ECW and Joey Styles. You can hear the influence ring through all the hype moments from old Xrd sets

  • @coronerfurm6780
    @coronerfurm6780 4 місяці тому +9

    I needed this video Obama, it cracked the wall ive had with Tekken my head, appreciate it man (very good video!)

  • @Logan-lk1qp
    @Logan-lk1qp 4 місяці тому +20

    THE ONLY PERSON YOU CAN CONTROL IS YOURSELF. thank k you therapy

    • @BigDaddyWes
      @BigDaddyWes 4 місяці тому +4

      It is a conversation though, and that's a two way street. Your responses have an influence on your opponent's next decision. They're taking it into account if they're paying attention to you.

    • @Logan-lk1qp
      @Logan-lk1qp 4 місяці тому +2

      @BigDaddyWes in a fighting game for sure, it does apply to irl but there's only so much you can do to influence someone else's actions. And I think that's just what is, influence, which I don't think equates to control

    • @Gettenhart
      @Gettenhart 4 місяці тому +5

      the only thing we control are out thoughts, habits and how we respond to things outside our control. That's it

  • @Sacr3dJoe
    @Sacr3dJoe 4 місяці тому +1

    Based dinosaur, thank you very much sir Majin Obama. I will vote you for president of our local FGC

  • @TiJoe6
    @TiJoe6 4 місяці тому +7

    Bro, the TLC matches from X-Seven and X8 were so fucking godlike. I remember my cousin giving me a tape recording of Wrestlemania 18 and I watched that shit all the damn time.
    Edit: I was a Hardy Boyz myself.

  • @richardchien6478
    @richardchien6478 4 місяці тому +7

    I really enjoy these more free-form videos about mentality

  • @lucianoaguero6795
    @lucianoaguero6795 4 місяці тому +8

    That TLC match at X-7 is legitimately GOATED, every other tlc or ladder match has been chasing that high ever since.

  • @picantepollo6238
    @picantepollo6238 4 місяці тому +1

    This match is absolutely historical, I will never get tired of people talking about it.

  • @sorubro2193
    @sorubro2193 4 місяці тому +10

    The layer approach is something I've thought a couple of times too, it helps a lot, it's a good approach

  • @maple.leaves.
    @maple.leaves. 4 місяці тому

    Serendipitous that I just now saw this. I opened myself up to some real humiliation by not respecting and responding to my opponent BECAUSE “they were mashing”. Lost a messy 2-3, adjusted to win a very clean 3-0, then when they adjusted to my play I crumbled and lost bad because “they can’t actually adjust to my play”.
    Meanwhile they won a back-and-forth match, learned something about how to pressure me effectively, and came out with a feeling of satisfaction, while in that moment I felt outright humiliated. Thanks a ton for your advice on this, it’s helping me laugh it off and learn.
    also that TLC match kicks ass, it’s probably my favorite one until Shield vs. Wyatts 1

  • @frofrofrofrofro24
    @frofrofrofrofro24 4 місяці тому +2

    Another banger Obama, love the way you articulate the inward and outward struggle in competition, particularly in fighting games. Needed this vid too, now I gotta run it back in Granblue against a friend who beat my ass in a similar manner. Gotta take what they give, and simplify my approach until my opponent dances to my tune. I appreciate all the work you share as always

  • @ZeludeRose
    @ZeludeRose 4 місяці тому +1

    i've been making that debate/argument distinction for years and i feel so validated hearing someone else say it

  • @Apemopo
    @Apemopo 4 місяці тому +9

    i dont know how i didnt expect ghandi when he was in the thumbnail

  • @arcadus
    @arcadus 4 місяці тому +5

    i struggle with this shit all the time, the "i'm better than this guy" mentality is automatic, and it takes a lot of effort to just fuckin pay attention to the match instead of getting lost in your head

  • @David_Here
    @David_Here 4 місяці тому +1

    How dare u call me out like this Majin xD
    I've def had a shift recently to being better about seeing what my opponents do and not thinking about what they "should do". I appreciate this video cause it's only telling me I'm going the right way.
    But I def felt my man in this video.

  • @riggel8804
    @riggel8804 4 місяці тому +1

    0:38
    "Intercontinentenenenls. Haha. Love you callin yourself out. Good one

  • @izlann420
    @izlann420 4 місяці тому +5

    You should sit down and assume the grime reaper is in the chair next to you.

  • @dpwhale
    @dpwhale 4 місяці тому

    The video we all needed but didn't know... always great to reinforce this lesson as it sometimes gets lost over time.

  • @Brass_Heathen
    @Brass_Heathen 4 місяці тому +1

    You love the dudley boys because you look like a blend of both of them.

  • @ricardoludwig4787
    @ricardoludwig4787 4 місяці тому +1

    This is also good advice even if you're not good. I'm by no means a good players but often when I'm fighting someone around my level or often even better and they know the counterplay to all of my shit, just hanging back and giving them a chance to fuck up in a way I could punish won me so many matches (this works especially well with smash style games)

  • @niwona_
    @niwona_ 4 місяці тому

    Soon as you said you liked that era of tag team the image of Edge spearing Jeff from the ladder instantly popped into my head lol

  • @zombiesnivy
    @zombiesnivy 4 місяці тому +2

    Some great lessons and reminders in this one for sure. Like you said, this can also transcend fighting games and be used elsewhere. Thx for making a video on this. Never knew about this match before since I'm new to the fighting games still

  • @GuntanksInSpace
    @GuntanksInSpace 4 місяці тому +1

    This reminds me of me realizing all you explained. I competed for a while in an online SC6 League and we had a Siegfried player who was say, same level as Gandhi here. Played him in pools and casuals quite often (dude's in there for the love of SC) and while his Sieggy isn't the level of one of the stronger players of the same character, he is able to catch me (and others sometimes) and score a win using a basic gameplan of poke, dropkick, running attack.
    No combos, no fancy stuff, just swing and hit. He'll catch us eating too much hits, or getting rung out with that big sword sweep.
    It was a learning moment for me and even I figured out that I need to overthink my matches way less. And "having a punish YOU can do" is way better than "knowing you have a punish but can't consistently do on that situation" indeed.
    Also heyooo I'm also kinda like that on wrestling lol. I will enjoy main events, but say in NJPW I have more fun watching old Shibata and Ishii/Jeff Cobb vs Shingo in the midcard for the Never belt over the big big matches lol. And also yeah, WM X7 is GOATED

  • @JayQuilson
    @JayQuilson 4 місяці тому

    holy hell the pause and zoom in at 6:44 was perfect. really helped me put myself in his shoes. Good call.

  • @sagelord77
    @sagelord77 4 місяці тому +1

    One of the greatest sets of all time. We've all been there.

  • @zeywop
    @zeywop 4 місяці тому

    really loved the way u tied it back in the end. i love ur fun yet thoughtful ways of discussing gameplay

    • @doogies
      @doogies  24 дні тому

      appreciate it man

  • @DJDizzy8
    @DJDizzy8 4 місяці тому +3

    This has been the exact journey I've been on as I've picked up Zangief in SF6 recently. I started in gold 1 and I'm currently platinum 4. And outside of experimenting on a few max damage punishes, my game plan has been very simple and very successful.

    • @DasNarwhal
      @DasNarwhal 4 місяці тому

      Hell yeah fellow gief main, keep up the work you Chad

  • @chasepalumbo2929
    @chasepalumbo2929 4 місяці тому

    I find that sometimes the highest tier of players are actually the opposite of entertaining or interesting. After all, they aren’t playing to be interesting or entertaining, they’re playing to win. Great video

  • @BigDaddyWes
    @BigDaddyWes 4 місяці тому +8

    This is really good shit bro.

  • @thrillhouse4151
    @thrillhouse4151 4 місяці тому +3

    1:00, I wanted to give you the biggest high-five, like one that stings cause there was too much effort put into it.

  • @RGV_FALCO
    @RGV_FALCO 4 місяці тому +1

    Shoutouts Mick Foley getting speared onto flaming tables WM22

  • @SnuggsMcDuff
    @SnuggsMcDuff 4 місяці тому

    i didnt watch a lot of their matches but the dudley's left a lasting impression. they were so cool!

  • @scizor285
    @scizor285 4 місяці тому +1

    Based wrestling talk. God I always loved the Dudleys. Obama really be tapped into the culture.

  • @xtremesonictheking1498
    @xtremesonictheking1498 4 місяці тому

    In the first minute wrestlemania 17, hardcore matches, RVD and the dudley boyz get mentioned. This video gonna be good.

  • @Diyomaro
    @Diyomaro 4 місяці тому +1

    For me, Wrasslin’ peaked in the mid-late 90s attitude era.

  • @masterofdoom5000
    @masterofdoom5000 4 місяці тому +2

    You can't mixup someone who isn't playing the same game as you, they believe deep in their heart that every single wakeup should be mash jab and you must simply accept that. Fight the opponent in front of you not the one in your mind.

  • @StreetfighterTips
    @StreetfighterTips 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video, I explain this exact concept and match to people I train often.

  • @habanerodash447
    @habanerodash447 4 місяці тому +1

    others have covered this match, but none as well as in this video. good shit obama

  • @scozzbaggs9224
    @scozzbaggs9224 4 місяці тому +2

    What about the 24/7 rule for the hardcore championship. That was peak wrestling

  • @El-Burrito
    @El-Burrito 4 місяці тому +1

    Damn I don't know what it is either, something about the Dudley boys, they are an iconic team

  • @Kinma15
    @Kinma15 4 місяці тому +1

    Gotta recreate Goku bending over to make eye contact with frieza

  • @PAPALIKO
    @PAPALIKO 4 місяці тому

    Man this match just never gets old 🤣😂😅

  • @PerfectOrange-Goblin
    @PerfectOrange-Goblin 4 місяці тому +1

    Oh man 🤣 I watch this at least twice a year, kills me

  • @KuroShiiiiro
    @KuroShiiiiro 4 місяці тому +3

    this video came at the perfect timing for me. been mallllding on tekken ranked past couple seshs cus ill fall for some dumb options & ill lose to it R1, fuck up my first punish attempt R2, and check out. havin me wishin i could put my opponent thru a table a la Dudley Boyz (in-game, of course). its like, that feeling of defeat i feel makes me forget to jus do the next level up option. ill watch replays n be like "oh, if i jus crouch then rising 2 ima be fine" or sum similar thats so obvious but i jus couldnt see bc tilting would jus not let me 😂

    • @ShjadeNexayre
      @ShjadeNexayre 4 місяці тому +1

      Things happen fast in fighting games. Sometimes we can't keep up. Finding your way there after the fact is still good for the future. Good on you.
      Also important to keep in mind: tilting is okay sometimes; it happens! It's not ideal, but as long as you can recover and learn later after you've calmed down, it's not such a big deal. And hopefully that cycle happens enough times that your tilt-to-learn cycle gets shorter and shorter until you're actually able to do it within the course of a set, or even during the round itself, instead of having to wait until the post-game analysis to get it together.

  • @takarin64
    @takarin64 4 місяці тому +3

    Thanks Obama.

  • @Ledluver
    @Ledluver 4 місяці тому +2

    The Intercontisentinals 😂

  • @RedHero1
    @RedHero1 4 місяці тому +1

    Ive only seen a few matches of the dudley boys and I like them tbh.

  • @kexis
    @kexis 4 місяці тому

    Good video. Thanks for posting Majin Obama

  • @user-bkey
    @user-bkey 4 місяці тому +1

    think ive seen someone post this match before and i love it the commentary for it is amazing
    im glad i dont have to be taught the gandhi lesson in a tourney because my friends fg skill level varies anyway, gotta be ready for some dumb strategies

  • @yannilibbes8219
    @yannilibbes8219 4 місяці тому +3

    people should watch ghandi's match against a dan in the next round of dreamhack to see all majin's points codified in a playstyle, especially the wait and let your opponent do something unsafe attitude.

  • @Conahawk
    @Conahawk 4 місяці тому

    I would love it if you did a stream of you and chat putting together a playlist of matches like this

  • @pie6088
    @pie6088 2 місяці тому

    13:24 fuckn laughed my ass off here

  • @HiResDez
    @HiResDez 4 місяці тому

    Oh man Majin did you mess with ECW before it got acquired? Like my brotha from another motha

  • @KruxisV
    @KruxisV 4 місяці тому +1

    If you ever think you can't learn from something because you're too advanced, you're probably not as good as you think you are.

  • @Blustride
    @Blustride 4 місяці тому +1

    If there’s one good thing about grinding netplay, it’s that these sorts of players are unavoidable. You have to learn how to play safe and punish whatever they throw out.

  • @Fishe0ne
    @Fishe0ne 4 місяці тому +1

    DEVON! get the table!

  • @braydenlynch4655
    @braydenlynch4655 4 місяці тому

    My favorite part no one mentions is the very next match is Ghandi vs a Dan player who does just keep things simple stupid and wins no problem

  • @lordofgrubs
    @lordofgrubs 4 місяці тому

    GET THE TABLE

  • @MasamuneKuma
    @MasamuneKuma 4 місяці тому +1

    RIP neo empire

  • @th3SyLvEsTeR
    @th3SyLvEsTeR 4 місяці тому

    been thinking about this match for a while this week lol

  • @3R9Sasuke
    @3R9Sasuke 4 місяці тому +1

    I hit Plat 3 in SF6 and the players just doing whatever really has gotten to me. I really have to take what they're giving.

  • @tommybayer2351
    @tommybayer2351 4 місяці тому +2

    The hardy boys were rad

  • @arcadebuddha
    @arcadebuddha 4 місяці тому +2

    I got a buddy who is pretty good, but ends up overcomplicating their game plan and gets blown up by "random" play. I'm a scrub too, but my philosophy is that if you don't see it, they don't have it. Why are you shimmying if they haven't teched? Why did you stop jumping if they haven't been on their AA game? Layer 1 goes a loooong way, even at higher intermediate play.

  • @Ryouohk
    @Ryouohk 4 місяці тому +1

    just today i got tilted on t8 because of dickjabs to my plus frames

  • @KumaGorath
    @KumaGorath 4 місяці тому +1

    X7 is goated

  • @Bboyredmoon
    @Bboyredmoon 4 місяці тому +1

    💎

  • @BrianM_3rd
    @BrianM_3rd 4 місяці тому +2

    Heard it put this way before: A good swordsman doesn't fear another good swordsman, he fears a bad swordsman. Cos there's no telling what an idiot with a sword will do.

  • @neotron6490
    @neotron6490 4 місяці тому

    Hotheaded only get yer so far

  • @lololololol3121
    @lololololol3121 4 місяці тому

    great video mr obama

  • @kairi85
    @kairi85 4 місяці тому +1

    dope vid

    • @doogies
      @doogies  24 дні тому

      always appreciated beast

  • @TreFoxR3
    @TreFoxR3 4 місяці тому +1

    This lesson, is what Dhalsim players carry in tgeir soul.

    • @odd_cup_of_coffee
      @odd_cup_of_coffee 3 місяці тому +1

      I feel this in my soul as Dhalsim main in SF6. So many people wanna run in and just do their thing, but it does make it easier to try to read and react accordingly.

  • @TehSymbiote
    @TehSymbiote 4 місяці тому

    🙂‍↕️🙏🏾 sensei

  • @thejunkmanlives
    @thejunkmanlives 4 місяці тому +1

    this clip is classic. but it really showcases why i hated sf4. matches like this drag because you cant really force anything and you end up just losing your patience. staying cool and leaning on your fundamentals? absolutely. bait, punish, anti air, space, but in the process of grinding them out u can feel your life force draining. thats why that first 2 3 months of sf5 was so hilarious. someone like gandhi would mash a dp and then eat a 20%-30% meterless punish. as they panic now here comes a throw or a meatie and 15 seconds later your on to your next match.

  • @PowerQuestGB
    @PowerQuestGB 4 місяці тому

    ua-cam.com/video/NbN0fH_UZGc/v-deo.html
    Dragonfly Jones is a modded character in MK1. I dunno why my first thought was to tag this video to you. But that was my first thought seeing the video. That Dragonfly Jones. From the TV show Martin (my fave comedy). Is a modded character. Yeah.

  • @marcunbut1058
    @marcunbut1058 4 місяці тому +1

    You liked the extreme side of wrestling but you don't mention the land of extreme, the hardcore heaven: ECW. You don't like extreme, you like attitude era its not the same thing.
    Joking aside, for me ECW was the best of wrestling and hardcore heaven '97 is my favorite wrestling show of all time. Most of the best wrestlers came from there, like the Dudley's you love so much.

    • @doogies
      @doogies  4 місяці тому +6

      I mentioned several ecw athletes bro. Please stop trying to gatekeep me. I was there

    • @marcunbut1058
      @marcunbut1058 4 місяці тому

      @@doogies Yeah you mentionned the athlete not the promotion, thats why i gatekeeped as a joke. Wasn't being serious bro 😉