I think I heard somewhere they changed the weight line because Renee Rapp is more curvy and has already gotten bullied before because of it BUT agree they should have just gotten rid of all the fatphobia OR just made it to where, maybe this Regina is openly talked about being curvy and voluptuous and sexy, etc. but once her popularity diminishes people start calling her fat and it's made to be one of those "when your popular and pretty you get this, once people turn on you they make what you were confident about an insecurity" and they could have implied Regina was insecure about her body in that respect, and hid it behind her ultra body positivity It would have been a very modern take on body issues and girl politics
@@selina2052 I mean it's not the same crew so they probably didn't know nor is it the same property (and the same kind of piece of media; this is an adaptation while Heathers 2018 is a reboot/remake/new take). Means Girls the Musical the Movie (or the musical at all) never cared to be more than the original movie and play with its new premise (modern times and being a musical). The writers could have, and it would have been fantastic and easy to write in, but it's clear they didn't put in more than a day's work on the movie script lol
@@ondiiina oh i agree and I wasn’t trying to defend them. but i think they definitely knew abt the hate heathers 2018 got, and mean girls is similar enough in vibes (outsider gets taken in by mean girl clique, shenanigans happen) that they kind of live in the same place in my brain. in fact i feel like the og mean girls musical was made partially bc of the success of the heathers musical w teens. anyway i agree that not much thought was put into the movie adaptation either way lol
@@selina2052 It's a very common idea though and Heathers 2018 isn't the first one to do it. Even then, it's barely there and pretty much subtle commentary. There's also a lot more playing into the fatphobia and Chandler that I doubt they would have made the association in their brains if they were somehow influenced by the show! My personal guess is that they just don't care. Renée did state that she experienced fatphobia from fans and the crew as they made her cover-up then claimed she was more comfortable wearing that (when the outfit is atrocious). They, despite knowing from the get-go she would be Regina (IMHO that's why they made this movie, either to cash in on her fame or to get her an award), didn't bother to change anything accordingly. They took out the weight line because it had been criticized for a while along with other aspects of the show they changed (Where Do You Belong had two groups of people with EDs, one binging, the other fasting (made fun of both and of how people ate in general). The whole movie is a sanitized version of the musical and movie in every aspect. Be it the homophobia to the fatphobia, the rampant misogyny and bullying, etc. They probably wanted to get rid of anything controversial and actually addressing Regina's weight and the way she's perceived is too risky, especially when she's played by rising star Renée Rapp! You're right though that they were influenced by Heathers the Musical's popularity, likely along Be More Chill's, and quickly made the musical. They saw an opportunity and a new enthusiastic wave of theater lovers and knew they needed to cash in immediately. At least Beetlejuice the Musical had something to say and didn't hesitate to transform the story to suit it. Great writing (book, lyrics, music), amazing costumes/sets/everything and an all-around amazing musical. To me, the key is to not want to be the original because you will never be. Be More Chill, for all its shitty writing and destroyed characters, worked because it was fun and made with love. What little they have to say they're bold enough to say it which Mean Girls the Musical, especially the movie, never ever does. Like at least acknowledge that Janis and Damian are mean too and did really fucked up things 😭 (Aside note: I absolutely LOATHE that Heathers the Musical made Veronica an outsider but let's not get me started on that) Anyhow, thinking back, maybe you're right that Heathers 2018 did influence them in the sense that they were afraid of changing the musical and movie too much. People made it VERY clear what they thought of new takes!
You nailed it. They clearly wanted to be less problematic than the original, but the whole POINT is that the girls ARE problematic. That's what makes them mean. You can't call it "Mean Girls" and then neuter the basic premise.
I feel like it misses the thesis of the original movie by trying to sanitize it too much. Having the girls calling each other sluts and bitches was important, because thats what needs to be called out by Tina Fey in the gym scene to talk about how the women pitting against each other opens the door to normalizing misogyny from men. Instead they just do some generic "be nice" theme and it loses all its teeth.
It's because movie makers are doing this weird thing right now where they pretend that gen z would "be too offended" by them showing actual bullying or abuse in an effective way, even though most of the people complaining about the sanitization of movies online ARE in gen z. They take us complaining about movies that actually send problematic messages in movies, then pretend that we just don't want problematic characters in movies where they're criticized and condemned, while they continue putting out movies with problematic messages anyway (like most of the infamous Netflix teen movies nowadays) that do things such as promote toxic relationships and frame them as "good". It's like they're giving us the worst of both worlds.
a lot of people mentioned this point in other review videos for the movie, and I want to reiterate this, because it's not only apparent in this modern adaptation but for some others too! replacing "politically incorrect" words sugarcoats the true nature of homophobia and misogyny that still exists today. mean girls is supposed to be a representation of internalised misogyny and girl-on-girl bullying in high school, and as someone who's experienced that for months, i can tell you, people aren't going to refrain from saying the most vile things just because society is less welcoming of certain attitudes and terms. there are high schoolers who don't care about manners or ettiquette. in the 2024 movie's burn book scene, the insults sound much less personal and deprecating, yet we're expected to be intimidated by the plastics.
I sometimes feel that being politically correct is censorship. It’s literally 1984 where we police each other into censorship. Sugar coating everything even in story telling
i teach teenagers and they are much less "woke" now than in the 2010s. they say the R word now freely, they call people big backed, etc. so i agree w you
Yeah, I think the writers of these films just get teenagers all wrong. Just because on the internet people act politically correct does not mean that’s how people act in real life. Teenagers especially still say slurs, and are disrespectful to each other, adults, kids, themselves, you name it! Nobody is truly politically correct
@@growingupwithdisneyagreed, much like the original Mean Girls I was called a lesbian all through highschool as an INSULT! And I graduated in 2018. So relatively recently lol. I feel like there wasn’t a lot of weight there about actual homophobia. Not that I love seeing characters suffer on screen but a movie about bullying could of been more realistic
I like the way the stage version handles the October 3rd thing, by making it a small interaction right before the final line of Stupid With Love Reprise. ("Hey, what's the date?" "October 3rd. (My new favorite day!)") It references the original without feeling like it's trying too hard. When I first listened to the cast recording, I didn't even know it was a reference to anything, and it still felt totally natural.
10:02 they did cady dirty by removing so many of her songs/parts that makes her interesting, like here? Her singing apex predator makes us realize 'oh she likes powerful people and being at the top, this'll get out of hand‘ Also it roars, more is better, stupid with love being slowed down, they really just removed her personality and motives
All these musical adapationd are trying to recapture legally blonde musical but legally blonde used their songs to expand on the story of the movie. Using the songs to explore the emotions of the characters in a way that non-diagetic media can but diagetic can't. Also gave Emmett more to do and the romance ended up more believable.
The only bit I didn't like was the change to the party scene. Elle not being confident and sticking it up to Vivienne felt weird and like they didn't understand how strong and smart Elle is. It feels like they didn't catch on the glimpses of "girl's world" in the movie (evident with the way they later butchered Heathers) but they did a very good job at adapting the movie and adding on the bits they did get. I like how the scene helped the Emmett/Elle relationship though and Emmett feels sweeter in the musical in general! Some of their earlier ideas were also very very good. Love And War, that they deemed too mean, felt very real. Like yeah, that's how a girl will hype you up especially from Malibu! And yet the way they kept some of it in Positive was very clever with an emphasis on how kind Elle is, even to someone she hates. It helped us focus on her positive traits and make the underlying "good things come to kind people" more apparent. I highly recommend searching up the earlier versions of the musical, they're as good as the final product and it's fascinating to see the difference in their vision of the story.
I think with removing the overall punch of how offensive everything could have been, it ends up making the final thesis weaker. We KNOW these are Mean Girl type behaviors, some of us might not even click that they’re mean but we’re familiar regardless. But making all the characters nice, unproblematic, or without any actual bad behavior ends up taking away a lot of character arcs.
i’ll die mad they cut more is better it adds so much depth to the characters (within the musical, it’s pretty clear in the original film) and i’ll also die mad about meet the plastics because it adds to the character elements of gretchen and karen within such a small timeframe ahhhh
I would LOVE a video on the Legally Blonde musical, I absolutely think it improves on the film in many ways (especially the relationship between Elle and Emmett)!
I walked out of the theatre thinking "I'll never watch that again" 🤣 There were scenes which were word for word, shot for shot the same as the original film yet somehow just worse. The musical numbers felt forced in and people in my theatre audibly told the characters to stop singing lol. Regina was flat and lacked any real underhandedness and the jokes were sanitised to appease a modern audience but I'm not sure it really worked. The characters are supposed to be flawed, have them be problematic🙄
It reminds me of when people say you couldn’t make The Office today. Comedy ages like milk, jokes that were funny 20 years ago are offensive now but trying to change them less offensive makes it worse. I feel like Mean Girls is one of those things that was meant to exist in 2004 not 2024 or whenever this came out. Now I need to go watch the original to cleanse myself 😂
@@bdink2605 honestly, original mean girls should work better now. the edginess of 2000s humour is absurd or profound nowadays; it only falls flat when its supposed 2b agreed upon. back then, the flawed behaviour in mean girls was SO accepted by every1 that I didnt realise how problematic it was decades l8r. that behaviour can get clocked now & it makes the problematicness more purposeful.
It was a fun way to spend almost two hours back when I saw it in theaters but it's one of those things that the original was always going to be better. It wasn't mean enough and Regina felt more self absorbed and selfish than mean to me. The movie speed ran through the getting back at Regina and Cady's rise parts, it felt like "you already know this stuff we don't need to go over it". I think too that not getting Cady's internal dialogue was a disservice. It helped us understand her thought process as she started becoming friends with the plastics and replaced Regina.
i vaguely remember hearing in an interview that tina fey really wanted chris to play aaron cause her daugther/teen friends were like obsessed with him 😭
Here's what I'm noticing just from watching your video: why is this movie like all medium shots? I feel like the camera just needs to take a couple steps back.
this is particularly annoying in the scene when cady goes to regina's house and it's supposed to be huge and impressive and imposing- but because the camera is too close, it feels cramped and lifeless. and the house is massive! it's a really fancy house! if they'd zoomed out it would have worked perfectly!
The defanging of Janice was a real miss for me. I'm not a huge Mean Girls movie fan, like it's fine, I'm not an aficionado. But one of things I liked was the way the movie presented Janice and Regina as two sides of the same coin. The musical movie.... does not.
Having only ever seen the original movie, I was actually surprised that I enjoyed this movie as much as I did (granted my expectations were incredibly low). Auli'i Cravalho (Janice) made the whole movie for me tbh. I love her voice and all of her numbers, she was great. Avantika was my second highlight. At the start I thought they made Karen too dumb, but I came around real quick cuz all her reactions were just the best - the no-thoughts-head-empty stare was perfect. "Sexy" was probably also my favourite song/sequence. Some parts worked, some didn't. Not nearly the trashfire people made it out to be, it was fine. I threw a few of the numbers on a playlist and called it a day.
Auto-captions are wild on this vid. It keeps captioning Rene "Rapp" as "WAP" and I'm crying xD 6:43 - "Oh and then they get to like an angle on Rene WAP that I really dislike" 6:57 - "... there's something so strange about the way she's sitting right now but um I love her WAP so there's that..." Help I can't breathe.
My least favorite change was how all the songs were transformed into trendy pop music instead of the musical feeling the show had. Also, Idk why of all the songs they gave Damien "Apex Predator". The point is to show both Janis and Cady's perspective (specially the power Cady had and how it's related to her knowledge of animals).
I’m not a fan of the musical but I do think the movie made weird choices with the songs and the casting. The girl who plays Cady can’t really stand vocally on the same level as Regina (Renee) and Janis (Auli), so her songs leave less of an impact an overall make her seem not as important. The romance plot I think works better in the musical than in the movie I would have preferred if they didn’t end up together, there wasn’t enough chemistry and they got rid of the scenes that make you like the couple. I also don’t like their rendition of the last song, they leave to much in the background in my opinion but anyways the movie overall isn’t that bad
5:13 this 100000%! i'm a teacher and was talking to my students about mean girls 2024 (their mums had made them watch it which made me feel SO old). they're ten so they hadn't seen the original, and they were fully demonstrating that this film does NOT stand alone, cus they said it was a weird movie with jokes that didn't make sense and it was just... cringe. so they failed to make a tribute to mean girls AND failed to make a fresh new movie for hip tweens!
In high school theatre my music director would literally stop playing during rehearsals if we didn't emphasize words. Dead-duh. See-yuh. More-ruh. It's basic theatre technique, why didn't they do that even a little bit?
I disagree with Janis being a lesbian in this new adaptation. The whole point of the rumours of her being a lesbian in the original was to show how popular people stereotype alternative people, her ending up with a guy in the original film makes more sense.
legally blonde the musical will always have a place in my heart because it was the first production i ever worked on, and all of the actors we had were amazing, mean girls the musical adaptation, on the other hand, has auli'i cravalho, renee rapp, avantika, and the guy who plays damien. literally nothing else. the original will always be better no matter how much i adore renee rapp.
I saw the Mean Girls musical on the west end for my birthday last month (wearing pink, on a Wednesday) it was incredible 💖I watched the film beforehand and thought it was just okay at best tbh
The whole issue is that this ‘Mean Girls’ isn’t mean. Everyone in this movie is so politically correct, they completely neglect the nature of highschool the original portrayed so well. Janice being a lesbian in this one was the biggest let down to me here.
Hello as a lesbian my biggest joke change gripe is that they made janice a real lesbian. The joke is that Regina internalized "I'm Lebanese" as "I'm a lesbian" and was horrible about it. Its fine if she's a lesbian, but it didn't upset me that she ended up with a guy because it made me laugh out loud when I was 12
I also feel that if they actually made Janis a lesbian back then, it meant she would have played directly into the stereotypes of the time, so her not being one ironically seems to be the less homophobic route
@@LovelyLivelyV exactly, this has always been my thought on the matter. i like janis not being a lesbian in the original movie better because the average viewer may assume that she IS because of the way she dresses, talks, acts, and the fact that it’s a rumor in-world. when she ends up with kevin it makes the audience go “wait, i just assumed that she was a lesbian this whole time… why? did i assume that just bc of the way she dressed, acted? am i no different from regina george?” and it also gives more nuance to janis’s ex-friendship/current negative relationship with regina and the fact janis was bullied for “being” a lesbian. it shows how ruthless high school bullying is, that you aren’t safe from homophobic bullying even if that label doesn’t apply to you. it shows that ANYONE out of the ordinary will be picked on. to make her a lesbian in the remake but still be so cowardly as to not actually show real homophobia just feels so pointless. and characterization-wise, a lot of fans including myself agree that if anyone turned out to be a lesbian, gretchen makes the most sense. janis just feels like the most “obvious”/stereotypical choice to be the lesbian character which ironically is more homophobic (imo) and what the original movie avoided on purpose.
That's actually a common misconception, Regina never misinterpreted the word "Lebanese" in the movie. When she talked to Cady about why she turned on Janice, she said that Janice started being really jealous and obsessive over Regina when she started dating her first boyfriend. It was this supposed "obsession" that Regina interpreted as Janice being a lesbian. It was a conclusion that Regina came to through her interpretation of Janice's behavior, not a word she misunderstood. If that was supposed to be the joke then Regina wouldn't have described Janice's actions to justify her concluding that she's a lesbian, she would've just said "Janice told me herself that she's a lesbian and I couldn't have a lesbian at my pool party- etc." then we find out oh she actually told her she's Lebanese, but that's not really what happens. The whole "what if Regina misinterpreted Lebanese as lesbian" thing was a fandom joke that some people in recent years began to misconstrue as an actual thing that's addressed in the movie. It's not really canon though, it's not even alluded to since not a single character points out that the words "lesbian" and "Lebanese" sound alike. The only time Janice being Lebanese was mentioned was when Kevin misidentified her as Puerto Rican and she corrected him. Unless there was an extended version of the movie that I missed where he responded with "oh that sounds like lesbian," the joke only exists in the fandom and not the actual movie. Can't really fault the adaptation for not having a joke that never existed in the original in the first place.
So, I work at a community college, in the theatre. We had a random theatre company in the community rent out our building to put on Mean Girls. It was one of the best performances I've ever seen. Some random company. I was shocked. The singing was stellar. I didnt even like the soundtrack until I heard them do it. It's interesting that a movie that was seen by way more people was worse than this one by this random company in my town lol.
I actually hate the fact that Janis is a lesbian in this and the musical. It takes away from the “mean girl aspect” and genuinely makes Regina out to be a hateful homophobic person rather than someone who used a rumor to have power over someone. It makes her actions more cruel when Janis is ACTUALLY queer rather than just being a misunderstanding that was taken too far (bc Regina was a child and never took the time to hear her mistake) as a mean girl would go. It comes off as them not wanting to be homophobic in one way but actually making Regina MORE intentionally homophobic anyway
Now I've been seeing this argument a lot, so I think a lot of people agree with you. I'm not trying to pick a fight, but I'm curious why does Janis actually being a lesbian makes Regina *more* homophobic? I feel like if she's spouting the same things either way, then she is the same level of prejudiced whether Janis is straight or not. I may be missing something, but this has been confusing me
@@SummonerGoogzooks Yeah I really disagree with the idea that the movie can't work if Janice isn't straight. The rumor that Regina spread isn't just that Janice is gay but also the insinuation that she's predatory. When she talked about this with Cady she mentioned that she couldn't invite Janice to a pool party because she's a lesbian and therefore would prey on the other girls. That rumor doesn't stop being harmful to Janice if she actually is a lesbian. Like the issue with the rumors in the first place wasn't that Regina got Janice's sexuality wrong, it was the way it was framed as a bad thing that made people start being mean to her and not want to befriend her. I actually think it would be more hurtful for Janice if she actually is a lesbian, and her best friend not only thinks less of her for it but is actively spreading harmful rumors that ostracize her from their peers. That actually is more compelling to me personally.
@@SummonerGoogzooks i agree, regina was /still/ homophobic in the original... maybe towards a straight woman, but in reginas mind janis was a lesbian and she still bullied her for that... like.. she /still/ called her the d-word... she was as much of a homophobe as the 2024 version imo...
Regina literally used the D-slur in the original, the 2024 Regina is not more homophobic than the 2004, its stated in the movie that the new Regina was even an ally for a while before chnaging her mind. Maybe Janice wasn't actually a lesbian but Regina sincerely believed she was and bullied her for it, Janice being straight doesn't change the fact the Regina was very homophobic.
I got married on October 3rd it will forever be an important date to me. Best part is when I got married it wasn’t like a thing in the community yet. So now 9 years later everyone says something 😂
I think of this movie separately than the original Mean Girls. I love Mean Girls, it’s for sure superior, but I still enjoy the movie musical. Similar to how I like Hairspray, but I really love the musical.
I realise this is not the focus of the video - but god it's so refreshing to see someone I agree so much with on the mean girls stage musical, love somebody gets hurt and more is better sm
Honestly i think Regina should be a canon lesbian not Janice, cause the whole point of Janice being bullied for being a lesbian is it’s clear Regina was projecting, but im okay with Janice being attracted to women maybe she could be bi or pan
I actually really loved how the original did it. It showed that there are stereotypes of lesbians that people think about that aren’t always correct. I loved that Janice fit the type of dressing and acting outside of the stereotypical norm, while seemingly not being a lesbian at all. It shows that you can be whatever sexuality without having to fit a stereotype. It shows that we may judge someone and be completely incorrect. I also think the whole joke of her being Lebanese and it being misunderstood was kinda funny. It shows how rumors can be like the game of telephone. People can mishear or misinterpret things, causing it to get completely out of hand. I do wonder if the undertones that people see of Regina’s sexuality could actually be true. She very well could have been projecting, as you said.
I will say, this is far worse than the movie and musical, but just kinda gets a flippant shrug out of me. Damian being black, expressly making Janice a lesbian, actually defining Cady's country-- those are all good changes that make more sense to me at least, but they do not fundamentally elevate the content. The songs in this iteration also, kind of, suck. I do not think the musical outshines the movie, but I do think it is largely a very solid adaptation with some highly questionable lyric choices. My favorite change they made was leaning into Cady as a sort of disney princess figure-- I think it makes her so much more endearing and really communicates her naivety. It's a shame that they rolled that back and went more with a Lindsay Lohan performance. Also, yeah, the narration was never remotely an issue. The writing of this movie is not competent enough to hold up perfectly without it-- Cady's internal monologue would really help at some points.
You're the first youtuber I've watched who mentioned Aaron not singing in this movie! Also, I personally didn't like they made Janice a lesbian, I feel like doing that misses the point of her original storyline. But overall, this movie was fine, and some of the songs are fun.
i like the change of making janice & regina queer. the original making janice str8 a joke is not interesting. but the remake failed 2 utilise this well enough. internalised homophobia is intense & it wouldve been smart depicting janice & regina as having sapphic toxicity. janice being a mean girl from sapphic rejection is a smart way of framing her as equally problematic. theres so much 2 improve on but these big studios continue 2 increasingly misunderstand teenage culture.
Making janice actually lesbian takes away from the character. In the movie janice was not lesbian but starting that rumor made her lean into rejecting her appearance and body. So you could see in her outfits and how she expressed herself that she maybe was a certain way and then you find out it's all a facade from being bullied by regina. If janice were to actually be lesbian and then be bullied for being lesbian, her character would have changed because she would have done the opposite, as in dress herself up very "straight" and "normal" because it would have been a fake expression of self. She would have been a barbie.
I actually really liked the movie b/c of how fun the musical sequences are. I think the cinematography is super cool and the choreography is amazing. There are definitely things I picked out story-wise that I would have changed or rather.... not changed... but the production just charmed the pants off me
bear with me, i’m gonna defend the orange change: the original line implies that karen is dumb because she doesn’t know something, but was aware of her struggles enough to double check, so it’s more catty and mean. this line just implies that she lacked the self awareness to know that she can’t even spell orange, so it doesn’t feel as mean to make fun of her for it.
I guess I should've expected "Mean Girls but not _too_ mean" but like...way to fail at the first step. The whole point is to have petty problematic vicious bigoted mockery as a part of the high school experience and it being bigoted _is the problem._ High schoolers don't call each other "fugly cows" and they certainly don't feel like their lives are ruined because they're "fugly cow girl" now. Honestly if we were to actually use original Mean Girls as a starting point we should've seen how society at large (including teachers/coaches/parents involved in the high school experience) uphold bigoted systems while superficially "punishing" bullying but not actually changing anything.
regarding the aaron actor...is it just me but i don't think he's even attractive?? like. the original had a very "boy next door" "normal cute boy" vibe but this one just FEELS like a model or like he belongs in some other movie
I reeeally miss Cady's narration in this version of the movie. Without it the character feels so bland. And not that smart because it's harder to understand her motivations
I think this movie is a classic case of an older generation trying too hard to cater towards a younger demographic. They have an idea of how teenagers dress and act and the things they say, but it’s so, like… out of touch? You can tell the people who made this movie haven’t been kids in like 30-40 years. It seems like everyone calls everything a “cash grab” nowadays, but I really feel like this was one. It wasn’t made from a place a love. I think the biggest downfall of Mean Girls is that the original movie just isn’t old enough to be recreated. I also think a Mean Girls musical would really benefit from being a 2000’s period piece instead of forcing it to be modern. I think Hairspray was great because it addressed topics that unfortunately we still deal with, but also show how much times have changed and how much progress we’ve made.
I hated I’d rather be me number. This apology is to myself…..gurl I think you should be apologizing for manipulating Cady at the very least. I did not like this turn for the character and ruined her for me in the movie. Also “I won’t act all innocent” lol you are doing that acting like you didn’t do anything wrong arrrrrg who wrote this!!?
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i strongly dislike what qas done with aaron as a character in this film. from what i understand, making him bland, never singing and just kind of there is meant to show everything happening with the girls is their own little world of drama. none of it really matters and its all kinda of juvenile. im not sure if this what the filmmakers were goinng for but i dont like this take. it removes the tragedy of kadys character and also removes aaron as a character entirely. in the original film he has agency and his actions contribute to the drama between the girls. here he is just a prop they are moving around and i dont like that.
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10:45 on Wednesdays they wear pink, as in, some article of clothing on their person needs to be pink, not the entire outfit😭 I get that they want to go the extra mile to exaggerate it for a new iteration? But the original outfits in the OG movie are so iconic, but none of the outfits from this movie stands out in the slightest.
I liked Shrek when I was in middle school, but it really isn't good at actually adspting its source material. It kinda goes against against the original movies themes. I think Dogfight is the best musical adaptation I've seen.
So do i think this movie is kinda mid generally? Yea def. Did i have a religious experience watching renee rapp in this movie? Yes 😍👀😳 also it low key got me shipping regina and cady bc aaron sucks so bad
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I think I heard somewhere they changed the weight line because Renee Rapp is more curvy and has already gotten bullied before because of it BUT agree they should have just gotten rid of all the fatphobia
OR just made it to where, maybe this Regina is openly talked about being curvy and voluptuous and sexy, etc. but once her popularity diminishes people start calling her fat and it's made to be one of those "when your popular and pretty you get this, once people turn on you they make what you were confident about an insecurity" and they could have implied Regina was insecure about her body in that respect, and hid it behind her ultra body positivity
It would have been a very modern take on body issues and girl politics
good suggestion tbh but i think they did something like this in heathers 2018 which might be why they didn’t in mean girls 2024
@@selina2052 I mean it's not the same crew so they probably didn't know nor is it the same property (and the same kind of piece of media; this is an adaptation while Heathers 2018 is a reboot/remake/new take). Means Girls the Musical the Movie (or the musical at all) never cared to be more than the original movie and play with its new premise (modern times and being a musical). The writers could have, and it would have been fantastic and easy to write in, but it's clear they didn't put in more than a day's work on the movie script lol
@@ondiiina oh i agree and I wasn’t trying to defend them. but i think they definitely knew abt the hate heathers 2018 got, and mean girls is similar enough in vibes (outsider gets taken in by mean girl clique, shenanigans happen) that they kind of live in the same place in my brain. in fact i feel like the og mean girls musical was made partially bc of the success of the heathers musical w teens. anyway i agree that not much thought was put into the movie adaptation either way lol
@@selina2052 It's a very common idea though and Heathers 2018 isn't the first one to do it. Even then, it's barely there and pretty much subtle commentary. There's also a lot more playing into the fatphobia and Chandler that I doubt they would have made the association in their brains if they were somehow influenced by the show!
My personal guess is that they just don't care. Renée did state that she experienced fatphobia from fans and the crew as they made her cover-up then claimed she was more comfortable wearing that (when the outfit is atrocious). They, despite knowing from the get-go she would be Regina (IMHO that's why they made this movie, either to cash in on her fame or to get her an award), didn't bother to change anything accordingly. They took out the weight line because it had been criticized for a while along with other aspects of the show they changed (Where Do You Belong had two groups of people with EDs, one binging, the other fasting (made fun of both and of how people ate in general). The whole movie is a sanitized version of the musical and movie in every aspect. Be it the homophobia to the fatphobia, the rampant misogyny and bullying, etc.
They probably wanted to get rid of anything controversial and actually addressing Regina's weight and the way she's perceived is too risky, especially when she's played by rising star Renée Rapp!
You're right though that they were influenced by Heathers the Musical's popularity, likely along Be More Chill's, and quickly made the musical. They saw an opportunity and a new enthusiastic wave of theater lovers and knew they needed to cash in immediately. At least Beetlejuice the Musical had something to say and didn't hesitate to transform the story to suit it. Great writing (book, lyrics, music), amazing costumes/sets/everything and an all-around amazing musical. To me, the key is to not want to be the original because you will never be. Be More Chill, for all its shitty writing and destroyed characters, worked because it was fun and made with love. What little they have to say they're bold enough to say it which Mean Girls the Musical, especially the movie, never ever does. Like at least acknowledge that Janis and Damian are mean too and did really fucked up things 😭
(Aside note: I absolutely LOATHE that Heathers the Musical made Veronica an outsider but let's not get me started on that)
Anyhow, thinking back, maybe you're right that Heathers 2018 did influence them in the sense that they were afraid of changing the musical and movie too much. People made it VERY clear what they thought of new takes!
wait that's such a good take.. weaponizing body positivity to bully other girls
You nailed it. They clearly wanted to be less problematic than the original, but the whole POINT is that the girls ARE problematic. That's what makes them mean. You can't call it "Mean Girls" and then neuter the basic premise.
Imagine casting the romantic lead in a MUSICAL and picking someone who doesn't sing 💀 How???
He can sing. He did in the summer I turned pretty. I have yes idea why he doesn’t want to
They did it with Emma Stone😅
Exactly
@@brieffsEmma has been on Broadway
I mean the broadway version did this with Cameron Dallas so maybe it was intentional 😊 /j
I feel like it misses the thesis of the original movie by trying to sanitize it too much. Having the girls calling each other sluts and bitches was important, because thats what needs to be called out by Tina Fey in the gym scene to talk about how the women pitting against each other opens the door to normalizing misogyny from men. Instead they just do some generic "be nice" theme and it loses all its teeth.
It's because movie makers are doing this weird thing right now where they pretend that gen z would "be too offended" by them showing actual bullying or abuse in an effective way, even though most of the people complaining about the sanitization of movies online ARE in gen z. They take us complaining about movies that actually send problematic messages in movies, then pretend that we just don't want problematic characters in movies where they're criticized and condemned, while they continue putting out movies with problematic messages anyway (like most of the infamous Netflix teen movies nowadays) that do things such as promote toxic relationships and frame them as "good". It's like they're giving us the worst of both worlds.
a lot of people mentioned this point in other review videos for the movie, and I want to reiterate this, because it's not only apparent in this modern adaptation but for some others too! replacing "politically incorrect" words sugarcoats the true nature of homophobia and misogyny that still exists today. mean girls is supposed to be a representation of internalised misogyny and girl-on-girl bullying in high school, and as someone who's experienced that for months, i can tell you, people aren't going to refrain from saying the most vile things just because society is less welcoming of certain attitudes and terms. there are high schoolers who don't care about manners or ettiquette. in the 2024 movie's burn book scene, the insults sound much less personal and deprecating, yet we're expected to be intimidated by the plastics.
I sometimes feel that being politically correct is censorship. It’s literally 1984 where we police each other into censorship. Sugar coating everything even in story telling
i teach teenagers and they are much less "woke"
now than in the 2010s.
they say the R word now freely, they call people big backed, etc. so i agree w you
Yeah, I think the writers of these films just get teenagers all wrong. Just because on the internet people act politically correct does not mean that’s how people act in real life. Teenagers especially still say slurs, and are disrespectful to each other, adults, kids, themselves, you name it! Nobody is truly politically correct
@@growingupwithdisneyagreed, much like the original Mean Girls I was called a lesbian all through highschool as an INSULT! And I graduated in 2018. So relatively recently lol. I feel like there wasn’t a lot of weight there about actual homophobia. Not that I love seeing characters suffer on screen but a movie about bullying could of been more realistic
@@saintnicole3209yes. I'm autistic and there's kids my age (15 to 16) who casually use autistic as a insult to someone's appearance.
also THANK YOU for finally mentioning that they erased the one thing the mean girls musical improved on, which is aaron’s arc
I like the way the stage version handles the October 3rd thing, by making it a small interaction right before the final line of Stupid With Love Reprise. ("Hey, what's the date?" "October 3rd. (My new favorite day!)") It references the original without feeling like it's trying too hard. When I first listened to the cast recording, I didn't even know it was a reference to anything, and it still felt totally natural.
Honestly “my new favorite day” also kinda puts too much emphasis on it.
10:02 they did cady dirty by removing so many of her songs/parts that makes her interesting, like here? Her singing apex predator makes us realize 'oh she likes powerful people and being at the top, this'll get out of hand‘
Also it roars, more is better, stupid with love being slowed down, they really just removed her personality and motives
I get that the actress can't really sing but the song was about being excited and happy. Caddy doesn't sound excited and happy.
@@harisbisevac4578 yeah.... this version is so boring
All these musical adapationd are trying to recapture legally blonde musical but legally blonde used their songs to expand on the story of the movie. Using the songs to explore the emotions of the characters in a way that non-diagetic media can but diagetic can't. Also gave Emmett more to do and the romance ended up more believable.
Legally Blonde the musical is soooooo good!!
I love what they added to Emmett's character
The only bit I didn't like was the change to the party scene. Elle not being confident and sticking it up to Vivienne felt weird and like they didn't understand how strong and smart Elle is. It feels like they didn't catch on the glimpses of "girl's world" in the movie (evident with the way they later butchered Heathers) but they did a very good job at adapting the movie and adding on the bits they did get. I like how the scene helped the Emmett/Elle relationship though and Emmett feels sweeter in the musical in general!
Some of their earlier ideas were also very very good. Love And War, that they deemed too mean, felt very real. Like yeah, that's how a girl will hype you up especially from Malibu! And yet the way they kept some of it in Positive was very clever with an emphasis on how kind Elle is, even to someone she hates. It helped us focus on her positive traits and make the underlying "good things come to kind people" more apparent.
I highly recommend searching up the earlier versions of the musical, they're as good as the final product and it's fascinating to see the difference in their vision of the story.
I like this movie more than most but yeah the 2004 one is such a timeless classic they keep beating a dead horse with it
I think instead of recreating teen comedies they gotta just start making teen movies again
I think with removing the overall punch of how offensive everything could have been, it ends up making the final thesis weaker. We KNOW these are Mean Girl type behaviors, some of us might not even click that they’re mean but we’re familiar regardless. But making all the characters nice, unproblematic, or without any actual bad behavior ends up taking away a lot of character arcs.
i’ll die mad they cut more is better it adds so much depth to the characters (within the musical, it’s pretty clear in the original film) and i’ll also die mad about meet the plastics because it adds to the character elements of gretchen and karen within such a small timeframe ahhhh
I would LOVE a video on the Legally Blonde musical, I absolutely think it improves on the film in many ways (especially the relationship between Elle and Emmett)!
Aron looks DISTRACTINGLY like Joey King! 😵💫😵
6:09 - 6:15 Those harmonies 😭 I really wish they’d kept that in the movie
I walked out of the theatre thinking "I'll never watch that again" 🤣 There were scenes which were word for word, shot for shot the same as the original film yet somehow just worse. The musical numbers felt forced in and people in my theatre audibly told the characters to stop singing lol. Regina was flat and lacked any real underhandedness and the jokes were sanitised to appease a modern audience but I'm not sure it really worked. The characters are supposed to be flawed, have them be problematic🙄
It reminds me of when people say you couldn’t make The Office today. Comedy ages like milk, jokes that were funny 20 years ago are offensive now but trying to change them less offensive makes it worse. I feel like Mean Girls is one of those things that was meant to exist in 2004 not 2024 or whenever this came out. Now I need to go watch the original to cleanse myself 😂
@@bdink2605 honestly, original mean girls should work better now. the edginess of 2000s humour is absurd or profound nowadays; it only falls flat when its supposed 2b agreed upon. back then, the flawed behaviour in mean girls was SO accepted by every1 that I didnt realise how problematic it was decades l8r. that behaviour can get clocked now & it makes the problematicness more purposeful.
It was a fun way to spend almost two hours back when I saw it in theaters but it's one of those things that the original was always going to be better. It wasn't mean enough and Regina felt more self absorbed and selfish than mean to me. The movie speed ran through the getting back at Regina and Cady's rise parts, it felt like "you already know this stuff we don't need to go over it". I think too that not getting Cady's internal dialogue was a disservice. It helped us understand her thought process as she started becoming friends with the plastics and replaced Regina.
i vaguely remember hearing in an interview that tina fey really wanted chris to play aaron cause her daugther/teen friends were like obsessed with him 😭
Here's what I'm noticing just from watching your video: why is this movie like all medium shots? I feel like the camera just needs to take a couple steps back.
to be fair, i zoomed in to make it fit youtube's aspect ratio, but you're still right
this is particularly annoying in the scene when cady goes to regina's house and it's supposed to be huge and impressive and imposing- but because the camera is too close, it feels cramped and lifeless. and the house is massive! it's a really fancy house! if they'd zoomed out it would have worked perfectly!
I love musicals, but all these covert musical adaptations are not gonna make people like musicals 😭
The defanging of Janice was a real miss for me. I'm not a huge Mean Girls movie fan, like it's fine, I'm not an aficionado. But one of things I liked was the way the movie presented Janice and Regina as two sides of the same coin. The musical movie.... does not.
In what way was she "defanged?" She's loud and proud now, sings an entire song about grttinf revenge, and still makes the plan for Cady.
Dare I say, it insists upon itself?
8:20 whats funny is that he did sing in season 2 of The Summer I Turned Pretty
and it was very painful to listen to
the title was cut off and i misread it as "attempting to care about men" and i was really confused about the tone shift of this channel for a moment
Having only ever seen the original movie, I was actually surprised that I enjoyed this movie as much as I did (granted my expectations were incredibly low).
Auli'i Cravalho (Janice) made the whole movie for me tbh. I love her voice and all of her numbers, she was great.
Avantika was my second highlight. At the start I thought they made Karen too dumb, but I came around real quick cuz all her reactions were just the best - the no-thoughts-head-empty stare was perfect. "Sexy" was probably also my favourite song/sequence.
Some parts worked, some didn't. Not nearly the trashfire people made it out to be, it was fine. I threw a few of the numbers on a playlist and called it a day.
Auto-captions are wild on this vid. It keeps captioning Rene "Rapp" as "WAP" and I'm crying xD
6:43 - "Oh and then they get to like an angle on Rene WAP that I really dislike"
6:57 - "... there's something so strange about the way she's sitting right now but um I love her WAP so there's that..."
Help I can't breathe.
as someone who avoided all spoilers when lindsay lohan showed up I LOST ITTTT
My least favorite change was how all the songs were transformed into trendy pop music instead of the musical feeling the show had. Also, Idk why of all the songs they gave Damien "Apex Predator". The point is to show both Janis and Cady's perspective (specially the power Cady had and how it's related to her knowledge of animals).
I’m not a fan of the musical but I do think the movie made weird choices with the songs and the casting. The girl who plays Cady can’t really stand vocally on the same level as Regina (Renee) and Janis (Auli), so her songs leave less of an impact an overall make her seem not as important. The romance plot I think works better in the musical than in the movie I would have preferred if they didn’t end up together, there wasn’t enough chemistry and they got rid of the scenes that make you like the couple. I also don’t like their rendition of the last song, they leave to much in the background in my opinion but anyways the movie overall isn’t that bad
5:13 this 100000%! i'm a teacher and was talking to my students about mean girls 2024 (their mums had made them watch it which made me feel SO old). they're ten so they hadn't seen the original, and they were fully demonstrating that this film does NOT stand alone, cus they said it was a weird movie with jokes that didn't make sense and it was just... cringe. so they failed to make a tribute to mean girls AND failed to make a fresh new movie for hip tweens!
In high school theatre my music director would literally stop playing during rehearsals if we didn't emphasize words. Dead-duh. See-yuh. More-ruh. It's basic theatre technique, why didn't they do that even a little bit?
this is like my MCU… julia’s commentary on mean girls universe. thank u for providing for us 😌
Legally Blonde movie and musical next
I disagree with Janis being a lesbian in this new adaptation. The whole point of the rumours of her being a lesbian in the original was to show how popular people stereotype alternative people, her ending up with a guy in the original film makes more sense.
Been watching a lot of Mean Girls (2024) videos lately and ngl, all it‘s making me wanna do is revisit the original
2004 & the musical both have these distinctive personalities that 2024 mean girls totally sanded down to try appealing to the widest possible audience
legally blonde the musical will always have a place in my heart because it was the first production i ever worked on, and all of the actors we had were amazing, mean girls the musical adaptation, on the other hand, has auli'i cravalho, renee rapp, avantika, and the guy who plays damien. literally nothing else. the original will always be better no matter how much i adore renee rapp.
I don’t think this move is even close to the original but I think it’s a really cute love letter to the original since Tina fey made this one too. ❤
I saw the Mean Girls musical on the west end for my birthday last month (wearing pink, on a Wednesday) it was incredible 💖I watched the film beforehand and thought it was just okay at best tbh
The whole issue is that this ‘Mean Girls’ isn’t mean. Everyone in this movie is so politically correct, they completely neglect the nature of highschool the original portrayed so well. Janice being a lesbian in this one was the biggest let down to me here.
Mean Girls the musical has its charm. Where's the charm for this
Hello as a lesbian my biggest joke change gripe is that they made janice a real lesbian. The joke is that Regina internalized "I'm Lebanese" as "I'm a lesbian" and was horrible about it. Its fine if she's a lesbian, but it didn't upset me that she ended up with a guy because it made me laugh out loud when I was 12
I also feel that if they actually made Janis a lesbian back then, it meant she would have played directly into the stereotypes of the time, so her not being one ironically seems to be the less homophobic route
This is my thoughts exactly thank you Poophobbit
@@LovelyLivelyV exactly, this has always been my thought on the matter. i like janis not being a lesbian in the original movie better because the average viewer may assume that she IS because of the way she dresses, talks, acts, and the fact that it’s a rumor in-world. when she ends up with kevin it makes the audience go “wait, i just assumed that she was a lesbian this whole time… why? did i assume that just bc of the way she dressed, acted? am i no different from regina george?” and it also gives more nuance to janis’s ex-friendship/current negative relationship with regina and the fact janis was bullied for “being” a lesbian. it shows how ruthless high school bullying is, that you aren’t safe from homophobic bullying even if that label doesn’t apply to you. it shows that ANYONE out of the ordinary will be picked on. to make her a lesbian in the remake but still be so cowardly as to not actually show real homophobia just feels so pointless. and characterization-wise, a lot of fans including myself agree that if anyone turned out to be a lesbian, gretchen makes the most sense. janis just feels like the most “obvious”/stereotypical choice to be the lesbian character which ironically is more homophobic (imo) and what the original movie avoided on purpose.
That's actually a common misconception, Regina never misinterpreted the word "Lebanese" in the movie. When she talked to Cady about why she turned on Janice, she said that Janice started being really jealous and obsessive over Regina when she started dating her first boyfriend. It was this supposed "obsession" that Regina interpreted as Janice being a lesbian. It was a conclusion that Regina came to through her interpretation of Janice's behavior, not a word she misunderstood. If that was supposed to be the joke then Regina wouldn't have described Janice's actions to justify her concluding that she's a lesbian, she would've just said "Janice told me herself that she's a lesbian and I couldn't have a lesbian at my pool party- etc." then we find out oh she actually told her she's Lebanese, but that's not really what happens.
The whole "what if Regina misinterpreted Lebanese as lesbian" thing was a fandom joke that some people in recent years began to misconstrue as an actual thing that's addressed in the movie. It's not really canon though, it's not even alluded to since not a single character points out that the words "lesbian" and "Lebanese" sound alike. The only time Janice being Lebanese was mentioned was when Kevin misidentified her as Puerto Rican and she corrected him. Unless there was an extended version of the movie that I missed where he responded with "oh that sounds like lesbian," the joke only exists in the fandom and not the actual movie. Can't really fault the adaptation for not having a joke that never existed in the original in the first place.
@@ohood1788 Thank you! I've been trying to figure where this lesbian/Lebanese thing came from, because it was NOT in the movie!
So, I work at a community college, in the theatre. We had a random theatre company in the community rent out our building to put on Mean Girls. It was one of the best performances I've ever seen. Some random company. I was shocked. The singing was stellar. I didnt even like the soundtrack until I heard them do it.
It's interesting that a movie that was seen by way more people was worse than this one by this random company in my town lol.
I actually hate the fact that Janis is a lesbian in this and the musical. It takes away from the “mean girl aspect” and genuinely makes Regina out to be a hateful homophobic person rather than someone who used a rumor to have power over someone. It makes her actions more cruel when Janis is ACTUALLY queer rather than just being a misunderstanding that was taken too far (bc Regina was a child and never took the time to hear her mistake) as a mean girl would go. It comes off as them not wanting to be homophobic in one way but actually making Regina MORE intentionally homophobic anyway
Now I've been seeing this argument a lot, so I think a lot of people agree with you. I'm not trying to pick a fight, but I'm curious why does Janis actually being a lesbian makes Regina *more* homophobic? I feel like if she's spouting the same things either way, then she is the same level of prejudiced whether Janis is straight or not. I may be missing something, but this has been confusing me
@@SummonerGoogzooks Yeah I really disagree with the idea that the movie can't work if Janice isn't straight. The rumor that Regina spread isn't just that Janice is gay but also the insinuation that she's predatory. When she talked about this with Cady she mentioned that she couldn't invite Janice to a pool party because she's a lesbian and therefore would prey on the other girls. That rumor doesn't stop being harmful to Janice if she actually is a lesbian. Like the issue with the rumors in the first place wasn't that Regina got Janice's sexuality wrong, it was the way it was framed as a bad thing that made people start being mean to her and not want to befriend her. I actually think it would be more hurtful for Janice if she actually is a lesbian, and her best friend not only thinks less of her for it but is actively spreading harmful rumors that ostracize her from their peers. That actually is more compelling to me personally.
@@SummonerGoogzooks i agree, regina was /still/ homophobic in the original... maybe towards a straight woman, but in reginas mind janis was a lesbian and she still bullied her for that... like.. she /still/ called her the d-word... she was as much of a homophobe as the 2024 version imo...
Regina literally used the D-slur in the original, the 2024 Regina is not more homophobic than the 2004, its stated in the movie that the new Regina was even an ally for a while before chnaging her mind. Maybe Janice wasn't actually a lesbian but Regina sincerely believed she was and bullied her for it, Janice being straight doesn't change the fact the Regina was very homophobic.
Haven’t seen your content in SO long I’m glad you’re still arounf
I got married on October 3rd it will forever be an important date to me. Best part is when I got married it wasn’t like a thing in the community yet. So now 9 years later everyone says something 😂
Yayy, I wasn't expecting a reaction video and am excitedly surprised! Ready to enjoy this after work :)
i actually thought it was fun 😭 except for angourie rice
I think of this movie separately than the original Mean Girls. I love Mean Girls, it’s for sure superior, but I still enjoy the movie musical. Similar to how I like Hairspray, but I really love the musical.
I realise this is not the focus of the video - but god it's so refreshing to see someone I agree so much with on the mean girls stage musical, love somebody gets hurt and more is better sm
Honestly i think Regina should be a canon lesbian not Janice, cause the whole point of Janice being bullied for being a lesbian is it’s clear Regina was projecting, but im okay with Janice being attracted to women maybe she could be bi or pan
I actually really loved how the original did it. It showed that there are stereotypes of lesbians that people think about that aren’t always correct. I loved that Janice fit the type of dressing and acting outside of the stereotypical norm, while seemingly not being a lesbian at all. It shows that you can be whatever sexuality without having to fit a stereotype. It shows that we may judge someone and be completely incorrect. I also think the whole joke of her being Lebanese and it being misunderstood was kinda funny. It shows how rumors can be like the game of telephone. People can mishear or misinterpret things, causing it to get completely out of hand. I do wonder if the undertones that people see of Regina’s sexuality could actually be true. She very well could have been projecting, as you said.
i've always maintained that if anyone was a lesbian it was Gretchen
why does this Aaron look like Artie from Shrek The Third??
SHES BAAAAACK
I hope next year is the full metal alchemy and mean girls combo video. 🎉
I went to see this movie with my sister in theaters, and there were literally only two other people there
THE GIRLS NEEDED THIS!!
I just know Too Well by Reneé Rapp is on Songs Regina Hates lmao
JULIA...we are one and the same with our issues with Chris as Aaron....I could talk forever about how "More is Better" is SO important to the story
11:50 I think it’s because she’s trying to keep up with what’s “trendy,” maybe? Since Regina loves to talk about what she hates.
I will say, this is far worse than the movie and musical, but just kinda gets a flippant shrug out of me. Damian being black, expressly making Janice a lesbian, actually defining Cady's country-- those are all good changes that make more sense to me at least, but they do not fundamentally elevate the content. The songs in this iteration also, kind of, suck.
I do not think the musical outshines the movie, but I do think it is largely a very solid adaptation with some highly questionable lyric choices. My favorite change they made was leaning into Cady as a sort of disney princess figure-- I think it makes her so much more endearing and really communicates her naivety. It's a shame that they rolled that back and went more with a Lindsay Lohan performance.
Also, yeah, the narration was never remotely an issue. The writing of this movie is not competent enough to hold up perfectly without it-- Cady's internal monologue would really help at some points.
yes! i wanted your review so badly
You're the first youtuber I've watched who mentioned Aaron not singing in this movie! Also, I personally didn't like they made Janice a lesbian, I feel like doing that misses the point of her original storyline. But overall, this movie was fine, and some of the songs are fun.
I do like how they cut the teacher getting with only Asian students
i like the change of making janice & regina queer. the original making janice str8 a joke is not interesting. but the remake failed 2 utilise this well enough. internalised homophobia is intense & it wouldve been smart depicting janice & regina as having sapphic toxicity. janice being a mean girl from sapphic rejection is a smart way of framing her as equally problematic.
theres so much 2 improve on but these big studios continue 2 increasingly misunderstand teenage culture.
I was waiting for you to do this
Making janice actually lesbian takes away from the character. In the movie janice was not lesbian but starting that rumor made her lean into rejecting her appearance and body. So you could see in her outfits and how she expressed herself that she maybe was a certain way and then you find out it's all a facade from being bullied by regina. If janice were to actually be lesbian and then be bullied for being lesbian, her character would have changed because she would have done the opposite, as in dress herself up very "straight" and "normal" because it would have been a fake expression of self. She would have been a barbie.
I actually really liked the movie b/c of how fun the musical sequences are. I think the cinematography is super cool and the choreography is amazing. There are definitely things I picked out story-wise that I would have changed or rather.... not changed... but the production just charmed the pants off me
You'd reallllyyyyyyyy looovveeeeee My Lady Jane!!! Anachronistic and deadly funny historical romantasy
Oct 3 is a holiday in Germany!
i genuinely cannot stand this movie in the slightest (the stage version is 100x better) but watching only for your takes
wait they got rid of Do This Thing as well??? so glad i didnt end up seeing this in the cinema
bear with me, i’m gonna defend the orange change:
the original line implies that karen is dumb because she doesn’t know something, but was aware of her struggles enough to double check, so it’s more catty and mean. this line just implies that she lacked the self awareness to know that she can’t even spell orange, so it doesn’t feel as mean to make fun of her for it.
But the point literally is that everyone is mean and horrible.
I guess I should've expected "Mean Girls but not _too_ mean" but like...way to fail at the first step. The whole point is to have petty problematic vicious bigoted mockery as a part of the high school experience and it being bigoted _is the problem._ High schoolers don't call each other "fugly cows" and they certainly don't feel like their lives are ruined because they're "fugly cow girl" now. Honestly if we were to actually use original Mean Girls as a starting point we should've seen how society at large (including teachers/coaches/parents involved in the high school experience) uphold bigoted systems while superficially "punishing" bullying but not actually changing anything.
Small comment. My thought on the songs Regina hates is probably that they are songs that Gretchen likes but can’t play when Regina is around
hey, look up the stuff recently exposed about the scentbird CEO ♥️ please don’t support them
regarding the aaron actor...is it just me but i don't think he's even attractive?? like. the original had a very "boy next door" "normal cute boy" vibe but this one just FEELS like a model or like he belongs in some other movie
You might want to look into scented again. Not sure if you want to support their CEO
I do agree with the enunciation thing
I reeeally miss Cady's narration in this version of the movie. Without it the character feels so bland. And not that smart because it's harder to understand her motivations
Scentbird’s CEO is very problematic, you should look into it
i thiiiiink the theatre boys joke is implying she’ll never have sex with them because they’re gay?
I thought this movie was fun and I liked the cast but I understand why some people don’t like it
I tried to watch Mean Girls (2024) on an airplane but found it way too boring.
Thank u for dinner mom
PLZ make a vid on dinner in america
I also like Revenge Party! And I hate the musical!!
I think this movie is a classic case of an older generation trying too hard to cater towards a younger demographic. They have an idea of how teenagers dress and act and the things they say, but it’s so, like… out of touch? You can tell the people who made this movie haven’t been kids in like 30-40 years. It seems like everyone calls everything a “cash grab” nowadays, but I really feel like this was one. It wasn’t made from a place a love.
I think the biggest downfall of Mean Girls is that the original movie just isn’t old enough to be recreated. I also think a Mean Girls musical would really benefit from being a 2000’s period piece instead of forcing it to be modern. I think Hairspray was great because it addressed topics that unfortunately we still deal with, but also show how much times have changed and how much progress we’ve made.
real videos are back
I hated I’d rather be me number. This apology is to myself…..gurl I think you should be apologizing for manipulating Cady at the very least. I did not like this turn for the character and ruined her for me in the movie. Also “I won’t act all innocent” lol you are doing that acting like you didn’t do anything wrong arrrrrg who wrote this!!?
Julia, i am begging you, PLEASE dont take scentbird sponsorships. The founder is a complete lunatic who said on camera "hitler was not that bad" and many other wild things! Seriously, does no one do research before taking sponsors???
i strongly dislike what qas done with aaron as a character in this film. from what i understand, making him bland, never singing and just kind of there is meant to show everything happening with the girls is their own little world of drama. none of it really matters and its all kinda of juvenile. im not sure if this what the filmmakers were goinng for but i dont like this take. it removes the tragedy of kadys character and also removes aaron as a character entirely. in the original film he has agency and his actions contribute to the drama between the girls. here he is just a prop they are moving around and i dont like that.
This is kind of random, but I'm pretty sure I have the exact same bag as you do (the one hanging on your door/behind your head). Is it North Face? Sorry, I'm less than a minute into the video, but I had to post something bc otherwise it would continue to distract me, lol...
10:45 on Wednesdays they wear pink, as in, some article of clothing on their person needs to be pink, not the entire outfit😭 I get that they want to go the extra mile to exaggerate it for a new iteration? But the original outfits in the OG movie are so iconic, but none of the outfits from this movie stands out in the slightest.
Fuck I missed your voice
Please bring back the garbage movie series 😭
Shrek the Musical is the best musical adaptation of all time. Change my mind.
I liked Shrek when I was in middle school, but it really isn't good at actually adspting its source material. It kinda goes against against the original movies themes.
I think Dogfight is the best musical adaptation I've seen.
So do i think this movie is kinda mid generally? Yea def. Did i have a religious experience watching renee rapp in this movie? Yes 😍👀😳 also it low key got me shipping regina and cady bc aaron sucks so bad
They should have made it gayer.
Hi I'm just weighing in cause I think you miiight wanna re-consider if you ever wanna work with Scentbird again. There's some good videos on it, the founder is actually like a really, really awful person you wouldn't wanna support.