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STEALTH manned fighters! To be sure they are experimenting with everything but they understand like everyone else that when it comes to shooting or getting shot at you want full control and be as conservative about that process as you can be.
@@Scottagram : One of their carriers can't launch jets, the other can't launch fully fueled jets. They are also old tech, diesel with very limited range. A total failure.
Member when your adversary has millions of drones and humans behind the control and only one of them has to see the boxes to kill all the marines? I member.
Exactly, he obviously is ignorant of the large number of S300/400 systems Ukraine has destroyed and equally the number of patriot batteries Russia has destroyed. It seems Musk is a one dimensional thinker, but warfare is multidimensional.
Why would I want to be sitting at an S-400 site? I would sit a little bit off to one side, so if it gets bombed, I don't get blown up. Preferably, I'm sitting in a bunker 2km underground, controlling a network of missile sites. We should have a simulated battle between two forces. One is made up of 200 F-35s, 50 F-22s and on the other side 10,000 fighter-drones carrying 20,000 air-to-air missiles.
I am reminded that there hasn’t been a reported air-to-air guns kill in 30 years. Those kills were an A-10 versus a transport helicopter, and an F-16 versus a reconnaissance aircraft. It has been even longer since guns were used in an actual dogfight.
@@larky368 Correct. That was exactly my point. We had to learn the hard way that our assumption about a new technology completely overrode previous experience was wrong and it cost us dearly. While yes, there may not have been a gun kill in 30 years, we learned from the mistake of that assumption.
@@wagnerrpmainly because the US assumed we didn’t need guns so we designed F-14s without guns. Guns would have been better in Libya, but missiles were the only option!
To highlight one of Alex's points...Musk's standpoint on modern air defense systems being able to easily shoot down aircraft has also recently been proven incorrect. Isreal used the F35 against Iranian Targets on Oct 1, 2024 and the S-300 and the Mersad and Kamin-2 were unable to do anything about the attacks. Is that the most modern anti-aircraft systems? No, probably not, but that's the most recent example we have of the F35 being able to easily fly into contested territory.
Lets not underestimate the IAF and lets not over estimate the export models Russian contractors are manning /helping operate in Iran. The F-35 is good and the Israeli's hard years to plan these specific missions to beat these specific systems and we don't have a clue of the exact details because you can't trust a thing the IAF says.
Considering the S-300 is of russian design and we all now know how much bs Russia puts in to their combat capabilities, it can't be considered a "modern" anti-aircraft system. The Mersad being a reversed engineered version of the American mim 23-hawk from 1960 and kamin 2 an "upgraded" version of the Mersad, which was already decades obsolete. It's not a modern anti-aircraft system of any sorts and a bad example of Musks point being incorrect. The real test will be against Chinese anti-aircraft systems, the only (non west) nation that comes lose to American technology
@@lambiedan The S-300 has been constantly updated and upgraded and they still operate several hundred of the most modern versions. The only thing the Russians has spent more on is it's nuclear triad and i am not even sure about that. Their major military industrial effort has consistently been these strategic massed air defenses and your casual discounting of it is ridiculous and ignorant. China still has plenty ( last i checked) legacy air defense from Russia with much of their air force and air defense just adaptions from Russian tech. The real test will be against Russian air defense as the Chinese just doesn't have the experience of major warfare that the Russians do.
Calling Israel's last attack on Iran a pinprick would be generous. I've not heard a single *serious* analyst claim Israeli jets penetrated Iranian airspace - on the contrary, there's general agreement that Israel seems to have pulled the plug after their first aircraft got close to Iranian territory. Nobody knows anything for sure, but most informed speculation favours the explanation that something spooked the IAF when they got close, and they aborted the full scale attack. If you think otherwise, if means you're doom enough to hear what Israel claims & accept it at face value. Which explains almost everything about this absurd worldview, honestly.
@@jamescarter8311 He is a genius in fundraiser and managed to hire the best people but when it comes to engineering he is not as good as his fans believe.
@@darthvirgin7157 nobody got triggered. Musk is a genius. He's still wrong though and in my opinion he's probably testing the waters to see if he can get involved in selling technology to the military. AI software as well as drone hardware. Translation: He's looking to expand and make lots more money.
i could see, in the future, fighters becoming drones and miniaturizing to the point they're just small missile trucks. but we're very much not there yet.
Aerospace engineer + sci-fi writer here. This is the sort of stuff I write about: how brilliant new technology meets super-complex older reality. New tech does not instantly obsolesce older tech, especially when people are in the day-to-day experience.
There aren’t any active “fighter replaceable drones” in the world. Saying fighters are obsolete when there isn’t even a replacement in service is like: Saying that there are heli-carriers in avengers. That means we will have them one day, therefore, modern super carriers are obsolete…
Also it’s like saying battleships are obsolete they are not it’s just there is no new version. With the right radars and weapons systems the would be very good. Even if the USA just made a DDG and made it Nimitz class size 800-1000ft long with 16 inch guns with Missiles and torpedoes it would be a powerful ship.
@@neubauerjoseph Different situation. Aircraft carriers made battleships obsolete. Aircraft in general. And then missiles. Aircraft completely outclass battleship guns because they are orders of magnitude longer range, much more accurate and therefore much more destructive, and on top of that much cheaper (2000+ aircraft cost the same as 1 battleship in WW2). Battleships had no purpose anymore after aircraft carriers. Surface ships are for anti-air, anti-sub, and long range missiles mainly. Manned aircraft on the other hand have not been replaced by drones. At present, AI does not come close to being able to do even a fraction of what a human crew can do while RC drones have a weakness of jamming that manned fighters don't have.
Elon just wants the US to buy his shit. He wants to be sole supplier of weapons, and he wants it all automated. No more paying soldiers and technicians. They can all go home and work for him. Right, Elon?
same, but the right answer is: not yet. It is just a question of how long until AI is better than men. Not perfect, just better. And faster to train, and cheaper to train.
@@BBBrasil The thing is, you train ONE and you've trained *_them all!_* So that's definitely one upside. Another being, one learns a new trick, and they all will have that ability. I do really like that aspect of these AI Wingmen! _(in addition to not risking a human's live, that is)z I'm still not sure where I stand on letting them have *fire control,* or if someone back at base should be monitoring one (more?) drones, as a human co-pilot of sorts, similar to current drones. Or, maybe ideally, having the lead aircraft have a Weapons Systems Officer, except he's not control his aircraft's ordinance, only the Wingmen's...? Which for all I know, that may indeed be the plan... 🤷♂️ *[EDIT:* And turns out, it's indeed not a thing they (currently) permit the drones to do autonomously, I just hasn't gotten to that point in the video yet lol] _(aside from the latter, since there's aren't any two-seat F-35s, and I'm not sure if elongating the plane to accommodate one would be possible)_
@@BBBrasil Swarm of drones are extremely vulnerable to EMP burst and cyberattacks even if they are enhanced with high quality AI. Edit: Solving these problems will create another problems. There will be no drones, but local, heavily armored, independent, and slow self-autonomous ai robots instead having chance of not following orders and/or rebelling against human commanders. These robots are impractical without sacrificing control.
@@TheSedition666 To be fair Iran wasn't intending to actually succeed in doing significant damage inside of Israel. They could have likely launched 10x the number of drones and the F-15s that were already Winchester along with the various SAM layers would have been overwhelmed. It's just orders of magnitude less expensive to build a flying bomb than highly advanced intercepting missiles. Under the table diplomacy was the real weapon that kept things in check.
@@BattleBrotherCasten Almost like vaporware takes time and he does have 30 billion of worldwide taxpayer money. Robotaxis, SolarCity, Hyperloop, FSD, occupy Mars pipe dream will come to an end just not yet
He is not some expert in every field. For some reason once people have a lot of money, other people just believe they have expertise in everything they open their mouths about. He needs to focus on what he does.
That's true but to be sure when he started the rocket and electric car company people were saying this guy is gonne fail be because he is a software guy and when he started an Ai company and bought a social media platform they were saying he was a hardware guy! Turns out he is using methods that work including being able to find the people who can not only make his dreams real but survive the immense pressure he keeps them under. I think he sincerely believe there is no such thing as bad attention when it comes to social media but to be sure i think he doesn't quite understand that once the nuclear war starts no one is building F-35's anymore ( or aircraft carriers) so you build the most complex systems you may need before the war....
@@pietersteenkamp5241 His "methods" that are work are having enough money to throw at a problem that it cant possibly fail, usually by virtue of taxpayer subsidies. Tesla would have folded a decade ago without government subsidies. SpaceX the same. Twitters value has crashed alongside its revenue, and his AI ventures are so laughably far behind that they arent even discussed. Stop glazing someone for buying companies and running them into the ground.
The problem isn't about selecting ideas based on merit; it's about the disproportionate influence billionaires' ideas receive, often due to their status rather than their actual value. A billionaire's ideas aren't inherently superior to those of others, yet their position amplifies these ideas far beyond what they might deserve. For every success like SpaceX or Tesla, there are projects like the Boring Company, Hyperloop, Neuralink, SolarCity, or the Twitter fiasco. I'm neither American nor European, but it's clear to much of the world that the States has a significant issue with idolizing billionaires and their ideas
He owns three multi-billion dollar companies. Twitter/X isn’t a fiasco. It’s doing fine now. It was failing before he bought it. The other stuff are just side projects, and neuralink is still going.
Also, SpaceX’s Starship program is easily the most advanced and impressive aerospace achievements in modern history. Elon’s genius is on another level. It just is.
@@jamescarter8311You are a victim of cult worship. He got lucky with the scientists in Space X. It’s coincidental that the scientists can translate Elon’s dreams into reality. In fact, the dreams were also coincidentally the scientist’s dreams. That dream was just Elon’s fantasies. Have you ever heard Elon’s musings? They are the same musings as a 10 year old Marvels fan. Elon’s fantasies did not pan out with his Neuralink, Hyperloop and Boring.
@@jamescarter8311 Impressive? Yes. Most advanced? Doubtful, while the Raptor engines show advancement in manufacturing I wouldn't be surprised if Starship could have been designed and built in the late 90's. I should have included something about Musk the first time. SpaceX had a similar chance at existing to a coin flip with the Falcon 1 program. Kistler Rocketplane when SpaceX got selected for CCDev looked like the winning bid. Kistler doesn't exist anymore not because of technology, it's because they failed to meet the funding requirement of CCDev. SpaceX could because they had a really passionate billionaire as a founder.
A human fighter pilot is like a basketball point guard or a football quarterback. I wonder if you can ever replace a point guard or a quarterback with an AI robot in such a fast paced complex situation. At least not in the near future.
He can't even get FSD to work after a decade, but Captain Ketamine sees a Chinese drone show and thinks he's a damn expert on the tactical application of air power.
@@geno8150 LMAO subhumans like you, more animal than person, are the problem. It doesn't matter if the DoD and USAF BOTH have said EXACTLY what Musk said, since Musk said it you won't agree. What a mentally ill piece of schidt
Or the people who have been saying tanks are obsolete for a century :) Heck they are saying it again now while the actual Ukrainians are screaming to get as many more as they can. Turns out the only thing worse than a tank / BMP/Bradley is no steel between you and the smart/dumb munition! You either pay in blood or steel!
and 60 years before that, people would have said things like "the death of the propeller driven fighter has been greatly exaggerated"...times change...and if you dont change with them, YOU become obsolete...
Leon needs to be taken in hand and given a proper briefing on the complexity of modern warfare, and the role fighter aircraft, particularly the role the latest F35 version will play in that battle.
He is a successful business guy but he's not a general tech visionary no matter how he wants to be seen that way. He's not even particularly intelligent or well versed in most of the things he discusses but because of his wealth and media he gets a lot of attention.
@@kbm2055Y’all taking it way too seriously and literal. He is just speaking way ahead of time. Remember the stuff that WE SEE still makes sense to be manned. But what about everything that we don’t see. Also, what does he mean by fighter? A “dogfight” fighter makes no sense already even the F22 doesn’t really engage close. Maybe to Elon musk “fighter” refers to a close quarters dogfighting plane. I mean few people even understand the us fields zero planes that embody the original meaning of “fighter”. The “F” for fighter just designates air-to-air and realistically it’s a legacy naming scheme. Plus many planes are going partially autonomous anyways as missile trucks. Plus the new B21 is superior in every way to anything else out there as it is stealthy but realistically it is more like a “fighter” in capabilities as much as the f35 is a “fighter”. The SR-72 is unmanned and will be a key deep strike platform and it is also superior as a “fighter”. See what I mean? Maybe Elon musk isn’t stupid but rather he is just not aware of the naming schemes and meanings. I mean y’all gotta remember he’s not dumb, I think it’s more likely he doesn’t understand the naming schemes and designations.
Or a full self driving Tesla. Or solar tiles. Or Hyperloop. Or Tesla robot that can outperform Honda's Asimo built 20 years ago..Or...or....or..... He's a nerd who understands internet technology and had a daddy who pushed
@@markbrisec3972noticed you didn’t mention that he now has a rocket that twice as power as the Saturn V moon rocket that’s 100% reusable. He’s also launching over a hundred flights of the Falcon 9 every year. You also didn’t mention that Tesla isn’t just the most valuable car company on the planet but it’s also a leader in AI. You literally just mentioned side jobs and even those aren’t necessarily failures.
Drone does a flyby at an airshow: I blinked, could you do it again? F22 at the same airshow: Blasts past at 500 knots leaving the ground vibrating. Does an improbable flip turn to come back, and then freaking STANDS VERTICAL ON ITS TAIL. I can't help thinking of the morale boost the grunts get when aircraft show off raw power that way. The same way they still cheer when an A10 Warthog comes in and draws a dotted line through enemy ranks. Or a C130 literally plows a field with machine gun fire.
US F-15E's just shot down a large number of drones and cruise missiles with great success. Most were destroyed And F-35 just had a very successful raid over Iran, supported by F-15 and F-16. Israel is a pioneer and veteran of drones. A very poor time to claim fighters are outdated. Musk also fails to see the development and use of increasing and more advanced drones. This includes wingman fighters that work directly with fighters. We still need a human to pull the trigger. And drones lack some types of human senses and judgement that can be faster with a pilot. The F-35 is already a huge success, with about 20 nations placing orders. Communications remains a huge risk in drones. The US is already headed towards large scale operations with drones. This will take time and drone technology still needs development. Manned aircraft remain combat proven. UAVs still needs more combat to develop effective understanding.
Drones have the worst accident rates/survivability historically. Look at the price tag of Global Hawks or Reapers: none of the budget made it to defensive systems clearly. Electronic Warfare will be the pivoting part of future wars, not unmanned aircraft. Even a elderly RC-135 from the 60s has the means to pick up signals and mess with drones. The efficiency comment made me laugh, drones can’t carry much payload. Sorry but Elon should stick to botched truck launches and taking credit for other peoples achievements. I challenge him to make something that can remotely touch what we have in service and what’s behind closed doors.
You have to remember that military aviation projects have very long life cycles. Development on the F22 Raptor was started in 1981, with full rate production starting in 2005 24 years later , and that's still considered to be the most advanced fighter in the world. AI technology only got to the point where it was starting to be really useful a few years ago. My guess is somewhere between 2040 and 2050 we'll see an unmanned 6th or 7th generation fighter that can outfight most manned aircraft, but for that to happen the development process will need to start in the next few years.
I love the football team meeting analogy. However as I contemplated that way of thinking, I couldn't help but realize I've never seen a defensive coordinator sabotage the offensive coordinators efforts. Until the thought process of those in the team meeting changes, reality says it is a battlefield. Trying to jail political opponents doesn't feel like a "we're on the same team" vibe.
Hell they might if they thought they would get the HC promotion over them or for any other motivation. I'd say it's more common off the field than on it, but DC might operate in ways that makes the offense look bad if it doesn't hurt their own rep, sht may even be common when a losing game or season is essentially over early and for less reputable franchises. It exists in every human interaction to some degree and intensifies as more individuals are added and the scale of the interaction grows larger.
One thing I learned in Fire Control school (practically the first thing my instructor said) was that Fire is the practice of delivering energy to the target. It's good to keep this in mind. The energy can be explosive or kinetic or laser beams. Whatever delivers energy to kill the enemy. Sometimes it's a guy with a backpack full of explosives crawling around a bridge. Hiding your delivery system is sometimes just as important as the weapon itself.
The best mechanic has a tool for every situation. The more tools, the more options you have to fix something. A military should be the same. A tank is like a half inch wrench. One box ended wrench can theoretically turn every half inch bolt, unless there’s not room for it. Then you need a crows foot, or socket, or ratcheting wrench. We need five kinds of tanks, five kinds of jets, five kinds of missiles etc. That’ll fix it.
Indeed. Elon watched a video of Chinese drone light show and seems to think they're new. But the US+NATO were the first to use military drones (Desert Storm) and had a monopoly on their use for decades. They have plenty of uses but can't do what trained pilots can do. Particularly in a hypothetical war against a near peer (China) where ECM will be a real issue. The achilles heel of drones is their comm signal to the controller. Humans don't have that.
I get why you took a relative, specific, and objective approach, but not enough people are talking about what should be obvious - The richest man in the world cares about making himself money above all else, and has a history of playing fast and loose with stock market values. He can and did hurt Lockheed Martin’s value with this, freeing up stocks to be purchased cheaper. Thanks to his new role in the incoming government, he’s in the position to manipulate stock values all over America’s military industrial complex, promoting companies that he has invested in before anyone else knows. All the while, he makes America look weak when it needs to look strong in the face of hostile foreign powers, risking inciting new wars.
I see the future of air combat being as follows: “Missle trucks” (strategic bombers, attack aircraft, and rapid dragon-esque platforms) carry the missles and ordnance to a stand-off distance away from the battlefield, while “scouts” like the F-35 or drones act as forward observers and designate targets on the battlefield for the stand-off weaponry. AWACS acts as a command apparatus, and a number of manned fighters/attack craft to perform other missions like CAS.
Also....im 40 now, and as a teenager when i was looking into becoming a commercial pilot, all the talk then was about how it'd be a bad career path for the long run. The talk was that all the aircraft would be pilotless by the time i would have the experience to be at an international carrier.... Its 2025 almost, and that is still a long ways away, and possibly never coming.
Is anybody else here old enough to remember the Apollo 11 mission that almost cost the lives of two astronauts because the switch that would trigger the rockets to lift the LEM off of the moon broke? A quick-thinking Buzz Aldrin grabbed a pen and jammed it into the switch, making the necessary contact to fire the rockets with only seconds to spare in order to make the rendezvous with the command module to come home. History is replete with humans coping with unforeseeable events in creative ways that, well…. nobody could have foreseen, and no machine could have imagined.
You can spend $100M on a piloted aircraft, plus a pilot, or you can spend $30M each for three drones. Sure, you don’t want to lose the drone, but you can stomach the loss and replace it far more easily than the more expensive aircraft and its painstakingly trained pilot. Humans are vastly more flexible, and they might be able to come up with a solution within the limited time frame, or they might just get shot down and now you’re out a far more valuable asset.
When Elon say Ai is dangerous, yet Tesla and X aggressively harvesting data for Elon AI, so when Elon say fighters are obsolete Elon want a piece of that pie 🤔
He only started saying that when he realised Tesla was way, way behind in AI. It's just Elmo trying to cripple everyone else so he doesn't look bad. Guy couldn't give a rats ass about safety: he beta tests unproven systems on public roads, and Teslas have caught fire and burned their occupants to death because the door locking system is entirely electic with no mechanical override that rescuers can access. Oh yeah, and Starship doesn't have any crew launch abort system because "they don't need one" 🤔 Riiiiight. Has Elon ever heard of Challenger? He's a bigger bullshitter than Trump, FFS.
This is nothing new. This debate has been going on for over 20 years. Personnel in the DoD claimed the F-22 would be the last manned fighter from conversations from in the early 2000s. He's just taken a conversation from years ago and repacked it as his own as he does with other ideas.
Nah Musk is just a contrarian little sh*t and thinks it makes him sound intelligent. His thought process is about as long as his attention span and the guy does a lot of ket.
I would love to see a cost comparison between the fighter jets and various piloted drones we operate today. I noticed the RQ-4 was mentioned, but I'm also curious about the MQ-9 and any other similar aircraft. Great video!
If a pilotless aircraft can be sent out, it can be jammed or control of the aircraft can be taken over by an enemy. It’s not a question of if, but when and how bad.
Disagree. If a drone can be hacked, so can a piloted aircraft. A computer runs the aircraft, assisting the pilot. You can harden drones to hacking just like piloted aircraft are...
@@HomeEngineer-wm5fgFly by wire systems in manned aircraft have the ultimate firewall. They are not connected to external networks. They are a local network. The external information provided to the pilot and navigation systems could be hacked, but there is no connection between the local network and external network. Pilots can simply disconnect the autopilot and revert to airmanship. Drones can not do this. Without the external network, they have no guidance or ability to receive commands.
@@HomeEngineer-wm5fg The problem with drones is the backup (pilot) is also a networked system. It could revert to internal memory as a human pilot would, but would that 'memory' have been corrupted by the system hack as well? You can't reprogram a human brain the way you can reprogram a computer. If the hack sends false data (spoofing), a human is likely to notice and ignore. A computer may not recognize it, and if it's logic is reprogrammed, it may not even care.
Was just gonna say. I mean Elon _always_ stays in his wheelhouse, right? I mean he knows the limits of his knowledge and experience before saying something, right? No? He’s just a rich, white golden child who doesn’t understand that his successes are largely due to circumstances and luck, _not_ intelligence or insight, right? No? Well then. On with the show.
Solar roofs are already in use, and are still installed every day, generally only on upper class homes though. Traditional solar is still a better bang for your buck, but that's still on the rise too. Powerwalls are still a particularly popular option, too.
I’m a musk fan, but I think you are 100% right on this issue. Thanks for standing up. That isn’t easy, but we all need to be willing to say it like it is : popular or otherwise- necessary. Thank you
I don't expect anyone to make Skynet in today's environment. Skynet was an intelligently designed system. People like this are more concerned about the cost of something than how good it actually is.
@@diaztheshipwright9092 Skynet wasn't designed to go to war with humanity, so the intelligence part is very much debatable. Also: Things going t*ts up because somebody saved a few bucks on testing could be a believable part of that story.
If you want the same capability as a manned platform for a unmanned platform, it'll only be slightly lighter and cheaper. Cheap drones are cheap because they don't need to do the same mission.
You forgot the important details regarding such system, expensive training & insurance for the pilot onboard (it's not cheap to get an excellent pilot). Interconnected drone with Killweb and Real Time Machine Learning AI System will eventually match and surpassed any human pilot if the human pilot can't kill & EW all of them quickly enough. I still traumatized by Arsenal Bird + MQ-101 Drone, and ADF-11F Raven.
@zidniafifamani2378 you can run any modern jet without a pilot if you want to, it just doesn't make sense since current ai are much worse. If they get better then any human pilot, we can let them fly the jets.
@@johnathanclayton2887 those creepy little bugger (drone) really complicate the way to achieve aerial dominance for human pilot, which is something else entirely considering the Arsenal Bird only carry 80 of them onboard, imagine if Arsenal Bird have 4-level stacked drone bay, now we're dealing with 320 drone.
It's obvious Elon doesn't have a full comprehension of what he's talking about in this case. And why would he this isn't his area of expertise. The only reason is comments are even relevant is because he's got a big platform to speak from.
As with his own companies AI, Musk is simply going by the capabilities on paper, rather than the gritty, real-time reaction abilities required in the real world
The "just use a camera to beat stealth" was by far the goofiest take of all imo. Looking forward to seeing airplanes carring km by km cameras to try to compete with radar for BVR detection, just to become useless at night anyways.
@@drksideofthewal with IRST I'm pretty sure the theoretical range limitation is atmospheric absorption at those wavelengths. The advantage is you have a big fat radiating body you can detect passively. Cameras seem like a wayyyy harder solution bc all you are dealing with is the reflection of ambient light, which is a much weaker signal meaning you actually have to meaningfully process the signal instead of just looking for big emissions from some direction. The issue there (besides clouds and night time) is the diffraction limit meaning your camera would need to get absurdly big to process visual wavelength light far away into a meaningful image. I really wonder if high-end cameras are being developed as a closer range IRST-like system though which has been leading to the chrome fighter jets as a countermeasure.
To clarify, I dont think it's crazy to have an EOTS targeting system using visual light wavelengths, it's just not making stealth or radar remotely obselete
I've experienced a somewhat similar situation in the testing of complex circuit board assemblies during operation of "in-circuit test fixtures" that test by measuring from two points on the circuit board using a mechanical interface often called a "bed of nails"(spring loaded probes) connected to a complex spectrum analyzer, without any power applied to the assembly. Many, many times the circuit boards would pass the "in-circuit test" but fail in actual functional operation, as in performing the designed operation under power installed in the intended product. The failures were for the most part due to unforeseen circumstances such as a solder bridge on a connector making contact to another pin, that was not checked during the in-circuit test as it was not foreseen as a possible defect by the test programmer reading the electrical schematics. After the programmer was presented with the details of the failure, the test was modified to detect the failure in the future, if possible, but the fact remains that the initial test was only as good as the imagination of the programmer, or the designer of the circuit board to include test points on the board.
This whole incident is a good reminder to not parrot someone just because you either still or once admired them, especially in the case investors and ego is involved
The car can be trusted. It's other (human) drivers on the road that are untrustworthy - so much so that nobody's been able to figure out how to make a car that can adequately factor in the plethora of irrational humans around it.
@@718Insomniac Elon musk buys companies, he doesn't start them. He buys them and hypes them. Elon creates nothing himself. He's like an NFL team owner. When the team wins the Superbowl, do we 😍🤩😍🤩😍🤩 about the team owner? No, because that would be insane. He recognizes talent. He isn't the talent.
He himself doesn't deliver anything. He doesn't create companies, invent, build, or innovate anything. He buys companies and pays people who do these things. He's a recognizer and purchaser of talent. He isn't that talent. He's like a pro football team owner. When that team wins the Superbowl, do we fawn over and interview the owner? No. We want to hear from the players and coaches, because it's their talent and work. He is like an NFL team owner who pushes himself in front of the cameras and convinces people to credit him for their achievement. And it works, apparently.
Yeah and Elon Musk said he would be running bus services to Mars by last year. He's full of it. He's clearly angling for military contracts for when his car company goes under due to lack of new ideas that aren't gimmicks.
None of the old ideas were his ideas. Cybertruck was released because the main designer left Tesla 2 years ago. Now they struggle to make the next-gen cars. People also don't want to buy EVs anymore. Even former EV users are choosing hybrid or straight-up gasoline V8.
It seems like the concept of Chesterton's fence. Paraphrase: 'We should not tare down a fence before we know why it was put there' Approximate variant: We should not throw away a working solution until we have proven replacement.
Thank you for making a balanced video on this particular matter and acknowledging that the actual answer to this question is in fact, "not today, but tomorrow, to a major degree" instead of making a politically charged 30 minute dunking session on Musk. HLC's rather short video on this was also pretty good. Seems like very few people nowadays are interested in anything resembling the word or concept of *nuance.* Dunning-Kruger effect has truly never been quite so pronounced.
@@funkeyfreddy pointing out how stupid and disingenuous musk is has only become politically motivated because one side sold themselves and their souls to their billionaire overlords who dont allow criticism
Yeah makes sense. I guess he’s just the luckiest guy in history. The richest man on earth that somehow can run massive car companies and a friggen space ship company.
I love people who think one of the smartest men to ever live is dumb. Musk continues to develop things that no one else thought possible. I'm glad he's on our side.
i think drone swarms are used to overrun enemy positions in a more surgical way compared to an artillery barrage, comparing them to fighter jets is like comparing ammo to guns.
SpaceX already said anything Elon does or says doesn’t reflect the company! So that distance themselves from him! Elon only created and invested that company he is not designing the Starship.. he pays engineers to do that
@@The_Notorious_CRG He's good at throwing taxpayer money at existing concepts, and somehow making them worse. They can catch boosters now, but how close are they to actually reusing them? In the same timeframe, NASA was sending men to the Moon.
@@The_Notorious_CRGI mean I was not aware anyone had done the landing of rockets the way the space x does before Elon…but that is the only case I see of real novel solution from scratchish.
I do love how a man that falls for every single piece of Russian propaganda he hears is going to be so close to the handles of power. Yep. Best timeline
whats funny is had the election gone a different way the US wouldve won the 21st century cold war before it even started. Russia or China just had absolutely no chance to compete against a united NATO and resillient US military... but no we just had to elect the putler puppet who wants to turn the military into his personal praise team and gut military contracts in favor of his autistic jumping buddy
I think he does raise some valid points. Not everything situation will not require a fighter jet. Unless the drones in question are the loyal wingman type
I watch Combat Veteran Reacts a lot and he released an analysis on Musk's comment as well, which was well intentioned but lacked, some things. I'm glad you released this video. Good job on separating out the points throughout the analysis. I don't think there's anything that could have been done better.
I really appreciated your analogy between the political parties and the offensive and defensive coaches. Very clever sir, kudos. I am now ashamed that I have not come up with such a relatable illustration. A tip of the cap. Oh, and the à la cart super thumbs up.
I'm not American, or political. But I will say this: if someone's political position is how you evaluate their merit, then you're locking yourself in a political echo chamber that will distort your perception of reality. I mean no ill will with this statement, just food for thought
Autonomous flight is generally agreed to be a much easier problem than autonomous driving. There's a reason increasingly sophisticated autopilots were common by the 1940s, whereas it took until the 1990s for cars to get autonomy of similar usefulness.
@@kitnaylor7267 The autonomous flying you're talking about is akin to driving on an empty, straight highway. That's level 1 or 2 autonomous driving which even GM has achieved. Deciding whether to fire a missile or drop a bomb to minimize civilian casualties involves complex reasoning.
@@bobuhnitza Yes, that's exactly what I said. Driving is more complex than flying. Also, aircraft and surface-to-air missile batteries have been autonomously firing on both air and ground targets for decades.
@@kitnaylor7267 If your takeaway from the problem of drones autonomously killing combatants in an area where civilians are present is, "driving is more complex than flying" stay far away from any job in the defense sector.
Thank you for your level and actually patriotic take on how we should be approaching defense strategies and solutions. Obligatory, manned aircraft will never be fully replaceable because humanity can never be replaced.
I think the most important takeaway for this video is that fighter pilots very often rely on incomplete or imperfect information and need to make decisions based on them. Pilots have experience to rely on to handle fringe cases, while the AI (at least so far) can't be trained on any and all rare fringe cases, therefore won't have instructions to deal with this case and is likely to fall back on a the most reliable / secure basic set of behavior that, while fine in normal situations, might cause other problems in fringe cases. Take for example the case of the Tesla car in the US slowing down rapidly and breaking on the high way in a tunnel causing lots of collisions and a pileup. The car had a problem the FSD couldn't deal with and so it choose to fall back on the save option of slowing down and breaking - but to do this in the left lane on a high way was a bad decision (a human driver / the right decision would be to move to the right side / try to get out of the way of traffic and maybe even honking continuously and slowing down more slowly).
Manned fighters are not obsolete yet. I do think the maturity of other technologies is slowly making them less optimal for some roles such as ground attack and maybe routine patrols. For now human crewed aircraft are still the best option for air-to-air engagements and really any operations in contested airspace.
Alex, I know you have never interviewed someone on this channel, but I really think you should try to get Elon on your show to discuss this topic. I love this channel and appreciate Elon and the two of you talking would make for an insanely good episode or series. No doubt, Elon did not mean by his comments that jet fighters should immediately be replaced. He was just pointing out that other systems are going to come along and completely disrupt traditional air dominance tactics. Also, Elon has access to data and research that few have. Sure its going to take a while for new tactics and systems to be conceived, designed, built and deployed, but the world is about to transform dramatically. People need to become more aware of this fact and change our discussions to discount traditional methods more than we have in the past because technological obsolescence is going to become a huge problem during the next few decades.
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Apples paper was wrong. I work in AI. They are trying to treat all AI as the same. Written by intern.
"The end is inevitable, Maverick. Your kind is headed for extinction."
"Maybe so, sir. But not today."
That my friend sums up Alex's point exactly.
Musk shows a video about Chinese synchronised drones. Meanwhile China developing manned jet fighters 😐
STEALTH manned fighters! To be sure they are experimenting with everything but they understand like everyone else that when it comes to shooting or getting shot at you want full control and be as conservative about that process as you can be.
And aircraft carriers.
@@JosephKlacik : Unsucessfully.
@@buildmotosykletist1987 Actually the Chinese jets and aircraft carriers are extremely successful, therefore we should triple the budget
@@Scottagram : One of their carriers can't launch jets, the other can't launch fully fueled jets. They are also old tech, diesel with very limited range. A total failure.
Remember that time in a test a bunch of Marines defeated an AI controlled detection system by putting a box over themselves?
AI shouldn’t make decisions only fly the plane and associated craft. And the human at the controls, that way g-forces won’t hurt.
Yeah hahahah, when AI was extremely primitive. Today's AI is a different beast
@@EmperorFist323 Extremely different? That wasn’t even two years ago.
Member when your adversary has millions of drones and humans behind the control and only one of them has to see the boxes to kill all the marines? I member.
@@EmperorFist323 Not really. The hype is akin to the perceived prowess of Russian military equipment. Don't believe every breathless thing you read.
As someone who has been involved in electronic warfare, I would much rather be sitting in a F-35, than sitting at an S-400 site….
Drone jamming and obfuscating systems are so creative you could easily seize those drones and drive them to do what you want.
Would you rather be sitting in an F-35 or a Patriot battery with the latest radar?
@@zinjanthropus322F35.
Not being there is another layer of the onion.
Exactly, he obviously is ignorant of the large number of S300/400 systems Ukraine has destroyed and equally the number of patriot batteries Russia has destroyed.
It seems Musk is a one dimensional thinker, but warfare is multidimensional.
Why would I want to be sitting at an S-400 site? I would sit a little bit off to one side, so if it gets bombed, I don't get blown up. Preferably, I'm sitting in a bunker 2km underground, controlling a network of missile sites.
We should have a simulated battle between two forces. One is made up of 200 F-35s, 50 F-22s and on the other side 10,000 fighter-drones carrying 20,000 air-to-air missiles.
I am reminded of the F-4 debacle from Vietnam when people thought that fighters didn't need a gun.
I am reminded that there hasn’t been a reported air-to-air guns kill in 30 years. Those kills were an A-10 versus a transport helicopter, and an F-16 versus a reconnaissance aircraft. It has been even longer since guns were used in an actual dogfight.
@@wagnerrp I think his point was that some people are too quick to announce that new tech has made old tech obsolete.
@@larky368 Correct. That was exactly my point. We had to learn the hard way that our assumption about a new technology completely overrode previous experience was wrong and it cost us dearly. While yes, there may not have been a gun kill in 30 years, we learned from the mistake of that assumption.
@davidteske6692 your not wrong on your point, but your example missis a lot of nuance from what was happening.
@@wagnerrpmainly because the US assumed we didn’t need guns so we designed F-14s without guns. Guns would have been better in Libya, but missiles were the only option!
To highlight one of Alex's points...Musk's standpoint on modern air defense systems being able to easily shoot down aircraft has also recently been proven incorrect. Isreal used the F35 against Iranian Targets on Oct 1, 2024 and the S-300 and the Mersad and Kamin-2 were unable to do anything about the attacks. Is that the most modern anti-aircraft systems? No, probably not, but that's the most recent example we have of the F35 being able to easily fly into contested territory.
Lets not underestimate the IAF and lets not over estimate the export models Russian contractors are manning /helping operate in Iran. The F-35 is good and the Israeli's hard years to plan these specific missions to beat these specific systems and we don't have a clue of the exact details because you can't trust a thing the IAF says.
Considering the S-300 is of russian design and we all now know how much bs Russia puts in to their combat capabilities, it can't be considered a "modern" anti-aircraft system. The Mersad being a reversed engineered version of the American mim 23-hawk from 1960 and kamin 2 an "upgraded" version of the Mersad, which was already decades obsolete. It's not a modern anti-aircraft system of any sorts and a bad example of Musks point being incorrect. The real test will be against Chinese anti-aircraft systems, the only (non west) nation that comes lose to American technology
@@lambiedan The S-300 has been constantly updated and upgraded and they still operate several hundred of the most modern versions. The only thing the Russians has spent more on is it's nuclear triad and i am not even sure about that. Their major military industrial effort has consistently been these strategic massed air defenses and your casual discounting of it is ridiculous and ignorant. China still has plenty ( last i checked) legacy air defense from Russia with much of their air force and air defense just adaptions from Russian tech. The real test will be against Russian air defense as the Chinese just doesn't have the experience of major warfare that the Russians do.
@pietersteenkamp5241 you can find s-300/400 systems destroyed in the current war...and ukraine is far behind israel in capabilities.
Calling Israel's last attack on Iran a pinprick would be generous. I've not heard a single *serious* analyst claim Israeli jets penetrated Iranian airspace - on the contrary, there's general agreement that Israel seems to have pulled the plug after their first aircraft got close to Iranian territory. Nobody knows anything for sure, but most informed speculation favours the explanation that something spooked the IAF when they got close, and they aborted the full scale attack.
If you think otherwise, if means you're doom enough to hear what Israel claims & accept it at face value. Which explains almost everything about this absurd worldview, honestly.
Money may buy the genius and innovation of others but it does not grant you omniscience.
Elon is definitely a genius. Money doesn’t buy success, just look at Blue Origin.
@@jamescarter8311 He is a genius in fundraiser and managed to hire the best people but when it comes to engineering he is not as good as his fans believe.
uh oh….you just triggered many MUSKYfanboys.
@@darthvirgin7157 nobody got triggered. Musk is a genius. He's still wrong though and in my opinion he's probably testing the waters to see if he can get involved in selling technology to the military. AI software as well as drone hardware. Translation: He's looking to expand and make lots more money.
@@Psych1_-
how does the MUSKYsphincter taste like?
Short answer: no
Long answer: noooooooooooo
Sound like those whiz kids on Mcnamara's staff. 😊
Longer answer: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually: Not yet.
your IQ: n0000000000000
@@GrigoriZhukovLike any new military technology, it will gradually become more effective and will also have effective counters to it developed.
Essentially the USAF is basically saying “why can’t we have both?”
i could see, in the future, fighters becoming drones and miniaturizing to the point they're just small missile trucks. but we're very much not there yet.
Aerospace engineer + sci-fi writer here. This is the sort of stuff I write about: how brilliant new technology meets super-complex older reality. New tech does not instantly obsolesce older tech, especially when people are in the day-to-day experience.
A well thrown rock will still kill you.
It reminds me of the bomber barons saying that the bomber forces would replace standing armies.
"The bomber will always get through"... until it didn't.
@criticalevent”In CyberDuck 2025, we’ll learn how much Musk lied.”
@criticalevent Oh damn, I totally forgot the steering wheel claim. Dang.
Or the ever popular "atomic bombs make large standing armies unnecessary."
One might argue that B21’s loaded with air-to-air missiles could replace fighters?
There aren’t any active “fighter replaceable drones” in the world. Saying fighters are obsolete when there isn’t even a replacement in service is like:
Saying that there are heli-carriers in avengers. That means we will have them one day, therefore, modern super carriers are obsolete…
Also it’s like saying battleships are obsolete they are not it’s just there is no new version. With the right radars and weapons systems the would be very good. Even if the USA just made a DDG and made it Nimitz class size 800-1000ft long with 16 inch guns with Missiles and torpedoes it would be a powerful ship.
@@neubauerjoseph Different situation. Aircraft carriers made battleships obsolete. Aircraft in general. And then missiles. Aircraft completely outclass battleship guns because they are orders of magnitude longer range, much more accurate and therefore much more destructive, and on top of that much cheaper (2000+ aircraft cost the same as 1 battleship in WW2). Battleships had no purpose anymore after aircraft carriers. Surface ships are for anti-air, anti-sub, and long range missiles mainly.
Manned aircraft on the other hand have not been replaced by drones. At present, AI does not come close to being able to do even a fraction of what a human crew can do while RC drones have a weakness of jamming that manned fighters don't have.
@@delos2279 But missiles have orders of magnitude better range than aircraft carriers. Ooops.
Elon just wants the US to buy his shit. He wants to be sole supplier of weapons, and he wants it all automated. No more paying soldiers and technicians. They can all go home and work for him. Right, Elon?
Why do we have to risk human lives on the battlefield. A drone can do 30-g can a manned fighter?
I know the answer is no. Still watching this because this is *AIRPOWER*
Best answer!
I'm watching this because he's Alex Hollings
same, but the right answer is: not yet.
It is just a question of how long until AI is better than men. Not perfect, just better. And faster to train, and cheaper to train.
@@BBBrasil The thing is, you train ONE and you've trained *_them all!_* So that's definitely one upside.
Another being, one learns a new trick, and they all will have that ability.
I do really like that aspect of these AI Wingmen! _(in addition to not risking a human's live, that is)z
I'm still not sure where I stand on letting them have *fire control,* or if someone back at base should be monitoring one (more?) drones, as a human co-pilot of sorts, similar to current drones. Or, maybe ideally, having the lead aircraft have a Weapons Systems Officer, except he's not control his aircraft's ordinance, only the Wingmen's...?
Which for all I know, that may indeed be the plan... 🤷♂️ *[EDIT:* And turns out, it's indeed not a thing they (currently) permit the drones to do autonomously, I just hasn't gotten to that point in the video yet lol]
_(aside from the latter, since there's aren't any two-seat F-35s, and I'm not sure if elongating the plane to accommodate one would be possible)_
@@BBBrasil Swarm of drones are extremely vulnerable to EMP burst and cyberattacks even if they are enhanced with high quality AI. Edit: Solving these problems will create another problems.
There will be no drones, but local, heavily armored, independent, and slow self-autonomous ai robots instead having chance of not following orders and/or rebelling against human commanders. These robots are impractical without sacrificing control.
This is why Alex is so good at this stuff. He's in it. He's on it. He lives it.
Nuff said.
Did Elon forget about Israel wiping out Iran's air defense systems. Weren't they the S 400 System?, What aircraft did they use?
This is a very good point. And Iran's attack using very cheap drones that Elon is describing were almost completely shot down.
@@TheSedition666 To be fair Iran wasn't intending to actually succeed in doing significant damage inside of Israel. They could have likely launched 10x the number of drones and the F-15s that were already Winchester along with the various SAM layers would have been overwhelmed. It's just orders of magnitude less expensive to build a flying bomb than highly advanced intercepting missiles. Under the table diplomacy was the real weapon that kept things in check.
F 15's aren't F 35's
Elon first get you cars to work autonomously before you want to control an air force 😂
Self driving teslas are still buggy
Almost like things take time and he doesn’t have military industrial complex budget. Manned jets will come to an end just not yet
No shit!
@@BattleBrotherCasten Almost like vaporware takes time and he does have 30 billion of worldwide taxpayer money. Robotaxis, SolarCity, Hyperloop, FSD, occupy Mars pipe dream will come to an end just not yet
He just about controls the space force.
He is not some expert in every field. For some reason once people have a lot of money, other people just believe they have expertise in everything they open their mouths about. He needs to focus on what he does.
Musk is not an expert in any field other than BS generation.
That's true but to be sure when he started the rocket and electric car company people were saying this guy is gonne fail be because he is a software guy and when he started an Ai company and bought a social media platform they were saying he was a hardware guy! Turns out he is using methods that work including being able to find the people who can not only make his dreams real but survive the immense pressure he keeps them under.
I think he sincerely believe there is no such thing as bad attention when it comes to social media but to be sure i think he doesn't quite understand that once the nuclear war starts no one is building F-35's anymore ( or aircraft carriers) so you build the most complex systems you may need before the war....
@@pietersteenkamp5241 His "methods" that are work are having enough money to throw at a problem that it cant possibly fail, usually by virtue of taxpayer subsidies.
Tesla would have folded a decade ago without government subsidies. SpaceX the same. Twitters value has crashed alongside its revenue, and his AI ventures are so laughably far behind that they arent even discussed.
Stop glazing someone for buying companies and running them into the ground.
Musk is good at nothing except Executive and Board infighting and control. Completely useless.
He just spouted his opinion like everyone is doing here. The only difference is he has a larger audience.
The problem isn't about selecting ideas based on merit; it's about the disproportionate influence billionaires' ideas receive, often due to their status rather than their actual value. A billionaire's ideas aren't inherently superior to those of others, yet their position amplifies these ideas far beyond what they might deserve. For every success like SpaceX or Tesla, there are projects like the Boring Company, Hyperloop, Neuralink, SolarCity, or the Twitter fiasco. I'm neither American nor European, but it's clear to much of the world that the States has a significant issue with idolizing billionaires and their ideas
He owns three multi-billion dollar companies. Twitter/X isn’t a fiasco. It’s doing fine now. It was failing before he bought it. The other stuff are just side projects, and neuralink is still going.
Also, SpaceX’s Starship program is easily the most advanced and impressive aerospace achievements in modern history. Elon’s genius is on another level. It just is.
@@jamescarter8311You are a victim of cult worship. He got lucky with the scientists in Space X. It’s coincidental that the scientists can translate Elon’s dreams into reality. In fact, the dreams were also coincidentally the scientist’s dreams. That dream was just Elon’s fantasies. Have you ever heard Elon’s musings? They are the same musings as a 10 year old Marvels fan. Elon’s fantasies did not pan out with his Neuralink, Hyperloop and Boring.
@@jamescarter8311 Impressive? Yes. Most advanced? Doubtful, while the Raptor engines show advancement in manufacturing I wouldn't be surprised if Starship could have been designed and built in the late 90's.
I should have included something about Musk the first time. SpaceX had a similar chance at existing to a coin flip with the Falcon 1 program. Kistler Rocketplane when SpaceX got selected for CCDev looked like the winning bid. Kistler doesn't exist anymore not because of technology, it's because they failed to meet the funding requirement of CCDev. SpaceX could because they had a really passionate billionaire as a founder.
No, the most impressive achievements are what NASA did 50 years ago. Private industry is still trying to catch up.
Thanks!
A human fighter pilot is like a basketball point guard or a football quarterback. I wonder if you can ever replace a point guard or a quarterback with an AI robot in such a fast paced complex situation. At least not in the near future.
Eventually. Eventually they will be much better at these tasks. But it's probably gonna be a while.
He can't even get FSD to work after a decade, but Captain Ketamine sees a Chinese drone show and thinks he's a damn expert on the tactical application of air power.
Firstly, his comments are the SAME as USAF when they were promoting Loyal Wingman.... So you look like a fool..
@@Doug-rv3nryou’re the fool here
Captain Ketamine!
@@Doug-rv3nr Phony Stark will never love you, no matter how much you swallow.
@@geno8150 LMAO subhumans like you, more animal than person, are the problem. It doesn't matter if the DoD and USAF BOTH have said EXACTLY what Musk said, since Musk said it you won't agree. What a mentally ill piece of schidt
The death of the fighter jet been greatly exaggerated, just ask any Navy or Air Force combat pilot from the 60’s or early 70’s.
yeah. now ask any drone pilot child from the 2010's.
@@BBBrasilDrone pilots are fighter pilots who got stuck playing video games in a trailer. They didn't choose it.
Or the people who have been saying tanks are obsolete for a century :) Heck they are saying it again now while the actual Ukrainians are screaming to get as many more as they can. Turns out the only thing worse than a tank / BMP/Bradley is no steel between you and the smart/dumb munition! You either pay in blood or steel!
ask any pilot fro the 60s-70s; your point being???
and 60 years before that, people would have said things like "the death of the propeller driven fighter has been greatly exaggerated"...times change...and if you dont change with them, YOU become obsolete...
Don't worry, it's not as if he's going to work for the US government anytime soon.
Oh wait...
6:18 Unexpected wisdom drop in an Airpower video. Thank you so much, a lot of people need to hear this.
Im glad someone finally made this video. The world needs this.
Leon needs to be taken in hand and given a proper briefing on the complexity of modern warfare, and the role fighter aircraft, particularly the role the latest F35 version will play in that battle.
He wouldn’t listen.
Hope he's going to bring his friends Dunning & Kruger at that briefing
Try spelling his name correctly next time.
He is a successful business guy but he's not a general tech visionary no matter how he wants to be seen that way. He's not even particularly intelligent or well versed in most of the things he discusses but because of his wealth and media he gets a lot of attention.
@@kbm2055Y’all taking it way too seriously and literal. He is just speaking way ahead of time. Remember the stuff that WE SEE still makes sense to be manned. But what about everything that we don’t see.
Also, what does he mean by fighter? A “dogfight” fighter makes no sense already even the F22 doesn’t really engage close. Maybe to Elon musk “fighter” refers to a close quarters dogfighting plane. I mean few people even understand the us fields zero planes that embody the original meaning of “fighter”. The “F” for fighter just designates air-to-air and realistically it’s a legacy naming scheme. Plus many planes are going partially autonomous anyways as missile trucks. Plus the new B21 is superior in every way to anything else out there as it is stealthy but realistically it is more like a “fighter” in capabilities as much as the f35 is a “fighter”. The SR-72 is unmanned and will be a key deep strike platform and it is also superior as a “fighter”. See what I mean? Maybe Elon musk isn’t stupid but rather he is just not aware of the naming schemes and meanings. I mean y’all gotta remember he’s not dumb, I think it’s more likely he doesn’t understand the naming schemes and designations.
Your discourse was thoughtfully and intelligently presented. I expected nothing less. Thank you Alex for your insight and input on this topic.
Until Musk shows us a working 20 meter tall Zaku i call BS
Personally I'd rather have a GM Sniper II myself.
Until... so it is a matter of when, not if. Noted.
Or a full self driving Tesla. Or solar tiles. Or Hyperloop. Or Tesla robot that can outperform Honda's Asimo built 20 years ago..Or...or....or..... He's a nerd who understands internet technology and had a daddy who pushed
I like the way you think.
@@markbrisec3972noticed you didn’t mention that he now has a rocket that twice as power as the Saturn V moon rocket that’s 100% reusable. He’s also launching over a hundred flights of the Falcon 9 every year. You also didn’t mention that Tesla isn’t just the most valuable car company on the planet but it’s also a leader in AI. You literally just mentioned side jobs and even those aren’t necessarily failures.
Drone does a flyby at an airshow: I blinked, could you do it again?
F22 at the same airshow: Blasts past at 500 knots leaving the ground vibrating. Does an improbable flip turn to come back, and then freaking STANDS VERTICAL ON ITS TAIL.
I can't help thinking of the morale boost the grunts get when aircraft show off raw power that way. The same way they still cheer when an A10 Warthog comes in and draws a dotted line through enemy ranks. Or a C130 literally plows a field with machine gun fire.
You are politest person out here, I couldn't ever control and be this nuanced
It's as good as Tesla's FSD feature.
🤦🏻♀️Hopefully before fusion power plants.
I take it you've never been in a Tesla and are poor.
@@Doug-rv3nr what is this bot and why must it reply to every comment
@@Osprey5435 Txv?
Deadly?
US F-15E's just shot down a large number of drones and cruise missiles with great success. Most were destroyed And F-35 just had a very successful raid over Iran, supported by F-15 and F-16. Israel is a pioneer and veteran of drones. A very poor time to claim fighters are outdated. Musk also fails to see the development and use of increasing and more advanced drones. This includes wingman fighters that work directly with fighters. We still need a human to pull the trigger. And drones lack some types of human senses and judgement that can be faster with a pilot. The F-35 is already a huge success, with about 20 nations placing orders. Communications remains a huge risk in drones. The US is already headed towards large scale operations with drones. This will take time and drone technology still needs development. Manned aircraft remain combat proven. UAVs still needs more combat to develop effective understanding.
Musk DOES "see the development and use of incresing and more advanced drones" to the point that he realizes AI is the key... you prove Musk's point!!!
Not to mention if there was a satellite blackout the only way to get the drones to the target would have to be a pilot with drone wingman.
Drones have the worst accident rates/survivability historically. Look at the price tag of Global Hawks or Reapers: none of the budget made it to defensive systems clearly. Electronic Warfare will be the pivoting part of future wars, not unmanned aircraft. Even a elderly RC-135 from the 60s has the means to pick up signals and mess with drones. The efficiency comment made me laugh, drones can’t carry much payload. Sorry but Elon should stick to botched truck launches and taking credit for other peoples achievements. I challenge him to make something that can remotely touch what we have in service and what’s behind closed doors.
You have to remember that military aviation projects have very long life cycles. Development on the F22 Raptor was started in 1981, with full rate production starting in 2005 24 years later , and that's still considered to be the most advanced fighter in the world. AI technology only got to the point where it was starting to be really useful a few years ago. My guess is somewhere between 2040 and 2050 we'll see an unmanned 6th or 7th generation fighter that can outfight most manned aircraft, but for that to happen the development process will need to start in the next few years.
F-15E's? Doubtful. You don't kill ants with dynamite.
If Musk says that stealth fighters are pointless, then someone ask him if Putin's Su-57 is a PoS and see how he responds.
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I love the football team meeting analogy. However as I contemplated that way of thinking, I couldn't help but realize I've never seen a defensive coordinator sabotage the offensive coordinators efforts. Until the thought process of those in the team meeting changes, reality says it is a battlefield. Trying to jail political opponents doesn't feel like a "we're on the same team" vibe.
Hell they might if they thought they would get the HC promotion over them or for any other motivation. I'd say it's more common off the field than on it, but DC might operate in ways that makes the offense look bad if it doesn't hurt their own rep, sht may even be common when a losing game or season is essentially over early and for less reputable franchises. It exists in every human interaction to some degree and intensifies as more individuals are added and the scale of the interaction grows larger.
One thing I learned in Fire Control school (practically the first thing my instructor said) was that Fire is the practice of delivering energy to the target. It's good to keep this in mind. The energy can be explosive or kinetic or laser beams. Whatever delivers energy to kill the enemy. Sometimes it's a guy with a backpack full of explosives crawling around a bridge. Hiding your delivery system is sometimes just as important as the weapon itself.
You can tell exactly why a fighter needs a crewed cockpit based on what decisions a Falcon Heavy rocket cannot make on it's own.
Drones cant be the only line of defense. We need jets.
The best mechanic has a tool for every situation. The more tools, the more options you have to fix something. A military should be the same. A tank is like a half inch wrench. One box ended wrench can theoretically turn every half inch bolt, unless there’s not room for it. Then you need a crows foot, or socket, or ratcheting wrench. We need five kinds of tanks, five kinds of jets, five kinds of missiles etc.
That’ll fix it.
Indeed. Elon watched a video of Chinese drone light show and seems to think they're new. But the US+NATO were the first to use military drones (Desert Storm) and had a monopoly on their use for decades. They have plenty of uses but can't do what trained pilots can do. Particularly in a hypothetical war against a near peer (China) where ECM will be a real issue.
The achilles heel of drones is their comm signal to the controller. Humans don't have that.
I get why you took a relative, specific, and objective approach, but not enough people are talking about what should be obvious - The richest man in the world cares about making himself money above all else, and has a history of playing fast and loose with stock market values. He can and did hurt Lockheed Martin’s value with this, freeing up stocks to be purchased cheaper. Thanks to his new role in the incoming government, he’s in the position to manipulate stock values all over America’s military industrial complex, promoting companies that he has invested in before anyone else knows. All the while, he makes America look weak when it needs to look strong in the face of hostile foreign powers, risking inciting new wars.
Bingo
yeah it's a pretty shit position americans moved themselves in
“…makes American look weak…” - reminding all that the US possesses a precision strike arsenal capable of ending all humanity - hardly ‘weak’.
Yup.
In addition, whatever his motives are he is a prolific liar. He can hardly be taken seriously anymore.
I see the future of air combat being as follows: “Missle trucks” (strategic bombers, attack aircraft, and rapid dragon-esque platforms) carry the missles and ordnance to a stand-off distance away from the battlefield, while “scouts” like the F-35 or drones act as forward observers and designate targets on the battlefield for the stand-off weaponry. AWACS acts as a command apparatus, and a number of manned fighters/attack craft to perform other missions like CAS.
Also....im 40 now, and as a teenager when i was looking into becoming a commercial pilot, all the talk then was about how it'd be a bad career path for the long run.
The talk was that all the aircraft would be pilotless by the time i would have the experience to be at an international carrier....
Its 2025 almost, and that is still a long ways away, and possibly never coming.
Is anybody else here old enough to remember the Apollo 11 mission that almost cost the lives of two astronauts because the switch that would trigger the rockets to lift the LEM off of the moon broke? A quick-thinking Buzz Aldrin grabbed a pen and jammed it into the switch, making the necessary contact to fire the rockets with only seconds to spare in order to make the rendezvous with the command module to come home.
History is replete with humans coping with unforeseeable events in creative ways that, well…. nobody could have foreseen, and no machine could have imagined.
You can spend $100M on a piloted aircraft, plus a pilot, or you can spend $30M each for three drones. Sure, you don’t want to lose the drone, but you can stomach the loss and replace it far more easily than the more expensive aircraft and its painstakingly trained pilot. Humans are vastly more flexible, and they might be able to come up with a solution within the limited time frame, or they might just get shot down and now you’re out a far more valuable asset.
THIS.
When Elon say Ai is dangerous, yet Tesla and X aggressively harvesting data for Elon AI, so when Elon say fighters are obsolete Elon want a piece of that pie 🤔
So Elon developing AI proves Elon does not belive AI is dangerous?
Not very high IQ I see...
@@vmasing1965 Seriously?
@@andyle1984 totally.
He only started saying that when he realised Tesla was way, way behind in AI. It's just Elmo trying to cripple everyone else so he doesn't look bad.
Guy couldn't give a rats ass about safety: he beta tests unproven systems on public roads, and Teslas have caught fire and burned their occupants to death because the door locking system is entirely electic with no mechanical override that rescuers can access.
Oh yeah, and Starship doesn't have any crew launch abort system because "they don't need one" 🤔
Riiiiight. Has Elon ever heard of Challenger?
He's a bigger bullshitter than Trump, FFS.
Everyone harvests data. Jeff Bozo beats his meat to it
This is nothing new. This debate has been going on for over 20 years. Personnel in the DoD claimed the F-22 would be the last manned fighter from conversations from in the early 2000s. He's just taken a conversation from years ago and repacked it as his own as he does with other ideas.
Nah Musk is just a contrarian little sh*t and thinks it makes him sound intelligent. His thought process is about as long as his attention span and the guy does a lot of ket.
Oh, like how he repacked vactrains as Hyperloop
Great video, you guys rock!!
I would love to see a cost comparison between the fighter jets and various piloted drones we operate today. I noticed the RQ-4 was mentioned, but I'm also curious about the MQ-9 and any other similar aircraft. Great video!
If a pilotless aircraft can be sent out, it can be jammed or control of the aircraft can be taken over by an enemy. It’s not a question of if, but when and how bad.
Disagree. If a drone can be hacked, so can a piloted aircraft. A computer runs the aircraft, assisting the pilot. You can harden drones to hacking just like piloted aircraft are...
Exactly all modern fighters are computer-controlled and can actively override pilot inputs. @HomeEngineer-wm5fg
@@HomeEngineer-wm5fgFly by wire systems in manned aircraft have the ultimate firewall. They are not connected to external networks. They are a local network.
The external information provided to the pilot and navigation systems could be hacked, but there is no connection between the local network and external network. Pilots can simply disconnect the autopilot and revert to airmanship. Drones can not do this. Without the external network, they have no guidance or ability to receive commands.
@slartybarfastb3648 that is a hardened design. Drones can have separate subsystem too. The human is a subsystem example.
@@HomeEngineer-wm5fg The problem with drones is the backup (pilot) is also a networked system. It could revert to internal memory as a human pilot would, but would that 'memory' have been corrupted by the system hack as well? You can't reprogram a human brain the way you can reprogram a computer. If the hack sends false data (spoofing), a human is likely to notice and ignore. A computer may not recognize it, and if it's logic is reprogrammed, it may not even care.
I'll save you 30 minutes: no
It’s not a waste if I wanna watch
Yeah, Just because I know the answer doesn't mean the video isn't worth a watch
Just from watching Alex’s other videos I know the answer is no.
Was just gonna say. I mean Elon _always_ stays in his wheelhouse, right? I mean he knows the limits of his knowledge and experience before saying something, right? No? He’s just a rich, white golden child who doesn’t understand that his successes are largely due to circumstances and luck, _not_ intelligence or insight, right? No? Well then. On with the show.
Thank you.
Elon says Tesla solar roof installation is just around the corner. Is he right?
Solar roofs are already in use in AZ and NM... University of Arizona has a test pilot program with home owners in Tucson.
tesla solar roof is already being installed on houses.
Solar roofs are already in use, and are still installed every day, generally only on upper class homes though. Traditional solar is still a better bang for your buck, but that's still on the rise too. Powerwalls are still a particularly popular option, too.
@@wulf7463 how many total since Elon’s scam solar city show? He has Tesla shareholders foot the bill.
@@MiniDevilDF What is this? AI? Tesla solar roofs is the issue.
I’m a musk fan, but I think you are 100% right on this issue. Thanks for standing up. That isn’t easy, but we all need to be willing to say it like it is : popular or otherwise- necessary. Thank you
"Shower thought" tweets. Chef's Kiss, Alex 👍🏽
We don't want to go headlong into Skynet, because it saves a few $$$..
I don't expect anyone to make Skynet in today's environment. Skynet was an intelligently designed system. People like this are more concerned about the cost of something than how good it actually is.
@@diaztheshipwright9092 Skynet wasn't designed to go to war with humanity,
so the intelligence part is very much debatable.
Also: Things going t*ts up because somebody saved a few bucks on testing could be a believable part of that story.
If you want the same capability as a manned platform for a unmanned platform, it'll only be slightly lighter and cheaper. Cheap drones are cheap because they don't need to do the same mission.
You forgot the important details regarding such system, expensive training & insurance for the pilot onboard (it's not cheap to get an excellent pilot).
Interconnected drone with Killweb and Real Time Machine Learning AI System will eventually match and surpassed any human pilot if the human pilot can't kill & EW all of them quickly enough.
I still traumatized by Arsenal Bird + MQ-101 Drone, and ADF-11F Raven.
@zidniafifamani2378 you can run any modern jet without a pilot if you want to, it just doesn't make sense since current ai are much worse. If they get better then any human pilot, we can let them fly the jets.
@zidniafifamani2378 also why you referencing Ace Combat aircraft?
@@johnathanclayton2887 those creepy little bugger (drone) really complicate the way to achieve aerial dominance for human pilot, which is something else entirely considering the Arsenal Bird only carry 80 of them onboard, imagine if Arsenal Bird have 4-level stacked drone bay, now we're dealing with 320 drone.
@@zidniafifamani2378 the video was about real life air combat, not video game balance.
Elon Musk isn't a physicist, but he is the ultimate example of XKCD 793. I would link it but I am pretty sure youtube would block it if I did.
I had to look that up, but yes.
There's an xkcd for everything
Always informative, thanks
Appreciate the level-headedness here mate.
It's obvious Elon doesn't have a full comprehension of what he's talking about in this case. And why would he this isn't his area of expertise. The only reason is comments are even relevant is because he's got a big platform to speak from.
@@davidsturges3295 exactly. Same with all the celebrities touting Harris. Rich people telling us how to think. The humanity.
@WilliamCunninghamII And then we had doctors, actual practitioners in their fields trying to tell us about COVID and a silenced them.
@@davidsturges3295 who silenced them. I don't know of anyone named "A".
As with his own companies AI, Musk is simply going by the capabilities on paper, rather than the gritty, real-time reaction abilities required in the real world
The "just use a camera to beat stealth" was by far the goofiest take of all imo. Looking forward to seeing airplanes carring km by km cameras to try to compete with radar for BVR detection, just to become useless at night anyways.
Modern armies attack at night for this reason.
Generally the larger the camera the better the low light performance it would still be defeated by clouds and fog though
He's basically asking for a really inefficient version of IRST
@@drksideofthewal with IRST I'm pretty sure the theoretical range limitation is atmospheric absorption at those wavelengths. The advantage is you have a big fat radiating body you can detect passively. Cameras seem like a wayyyy harder solution bc all you are dealing with is the reflection of ambient light, which is a much weaker signal meaning you actually have to meaningfully process the signal instead of just looking for big emissions from some direction. The issue there (besides clouds and night time) is the diffraction limit meaning your camera would need to get absurdly big to process visual wavelength light far away into a meaningful image. I really wonder if high-end cameras are being developed as a closer range IRST-like system though which has been leading to the chrome fighter jets as a countermeasure.
To clarify, I dont think it's crazy to have an EOTS targeting system using visual light wavelengths, it's just not making stealth or radar remotely obselete
I've experienced a somewhat similar situation in the testing of complex circuit board assemblies during operation of "in-circuit test fixtures" that test by measuring from two points on the circuit board using a mechanical interface often called a "bed of nails"(spring loaded probes) connected to a complex spectrum analyzer, without any power applied to the assembly. Many, many times the circuit boards would pass the "in-circuit test" but fail in actual functional operation, as in performing the designed operation under power installed in the intended product. The failures were for the most part due to unforeseen circumstances such as a solder bridge on a connector making contact to another pin, that was not checked during the in-circuit test as it was not foreseen as a possible defect by the test programmer reading the electrical schematics. After the programmer was presented with the details of the failure, the test was modified to detect the failure in the future, if possible, but the fact remains that the initial test was only as good as the imagination of the programmer, or the designer of the circuit board to include test points on the board.
This whole incident is a good reminder to not parrot someone just because you either still or once admired them, especially in the case investors and ego is involved
Dude can't even deliver a trustworthy self-driving car.
Right. But he delivered on alot of other things. And his track record is good. Anyone doing shit like he is? Yeah I didn't think so.
The car can be trusted. It's other (human) drivers on the road that are untrustworthy - so much so that nobody's been able to figure out how to make a car that can adequately factor in the plethora of irrational humans around it.
@@718Insomniac Elon musk buys companies, he doesn't start them. He buys them and hypes them. Elon creates nothing himself. He's like an NFL team owner. When the team wins the Superbowl, do we 😍🤩😍🤩😍🤩 about the team owner? No, because that would be insane. He recognizes talent. He isn't the talent.
He himself doesn't deliver anything. He doesn't create companies, invent, build, or innovate anything. He buys companies and pays people who do these things. He's a recognizer and purchaser of talent. He isn't that talent. He's like a pro football team owner. When that team wins the Superbowl, do we fawn over and interview the owner? No. We want to hear from the players and coaches, because it's their talent and work. He is like an NFL team owner who pushes himself in front of the cameras and convinces people to credit him for their achievement. And it works, apparently.
@brucek803 yeah, it is his achievement. He made it all happen. You sound like a sore lower dude, who dosnt see good in humans. Getting too typical.
Yeah and Elon Musk said he would be running bus services to Mars by last year. He's full of it. He's clearly angling for military contracts for when his car company goes under due to lack of new ideas that aren't gimmicks.
None of the old ideas were his ideas. Cybertruck was released because the main designer left Tesla 2 years ago. Now they struggle to make the next-gen cars. People also don't want to buy EVs anymore. Even former EV users are choosing hybrid or straight-up gasoline V8.
his buddy peter thiel has stake in palantir a drone production military contractor
Invented predictions that did not age well: "The penny-farthing will make horses obsolete."
'Who needs armored vehicles and tanks, we have cavalry.' - every US general in 1934.
I see a few more bikes than horses on any given day
@@erichaynes5826 True, but the *point* is that horses have not vanished.
@@slartybarfastb3648 I rather doubt that every US general would have said that ----- not after Cambrai.
@@allo-other if they were a piece of technology, they would have
Your intro to this topic is on point. Well done.
It seems like the concept of Chesterton's fence.
Paraphrase: 'We should not tare down a fence before we know why it was put there'
Approximate variant: We should not throw away a working solution until we have proven replacement.
Thank you for making a balanced video on this particular matter and acknowledging that the actual answer to this question is in fact, "not today, but tomorrow, to a major degree" instead of making a politically charged 30 minute dunking session on Musk. HLC's rather short video on this was also pretty good. Seems like very few people nowadays are interested in anything resembling the word or concept of *nuance.* Dunning-Kruger effect has truly never been quite so pronounced.
Well said. I agree. I see a lot of politically motivated opinions in this comment section.
@@funkeyfreddy pointing out how stupid and disingenuous musk is has only become politically motivated because one side sold themselves and their souls to their billionaire overlords who dont allow criticism
Stealth aircraft are like astral projections that can fire missiles.
One point I disagree with here: Elon Musk isn't bright. He's rich, and that fact gives him the opportunity to buy the appearance of intelligence.
Yeah makes sense. I guess he’s just the luckiest guy in history. The richest man on earth that somehow can run massive car companies and a friggen space ship company.
I love people who think one of the smartest men to ever live is dumb. Musk continues to develop things that no one else thought possible. I'm glad he's on our side.
@@tkmmkt6569 you mean he buys them and then forces stuff like the cybertruck out?
@@tkmmkt6569 As my history teacher used to say, he chose his parents well.
@@davidwiechecki9205 He's not smart. He uses wealth to take over companies built by smart people.
Great video 😊
i think drone swarms are used to overrun enemy positions in a more surgical way compared to an artillery barrage, comparing them to fighter jets is like comparing ammo to guns.
Outside of Space X just ignore anything he says....
SpaceX already said anything Elon does or says doesn’t reflect the company! So that distance themselves from him! Elon only created and invested that company he is not designing the Starship.. he pays engineers to do that
@@J.C.1966 because he not a engineer he just the guy with money and time! Money can’t buy brains but they can buy workers
@@tronlegacy2664 100% he's good at throwing money at existing concepts, not singlehandedly going from womb to tomb.
@@The_Notorious_CRG He's good at throwing taxpayer money at existing concepts, and somehow making them worse. They can catch boosters now, but how close are they to actually reusing them? In the same timeframe, NASA was sending men to the Moon.
@@The_Notorious_CRGI mean I was not aware anyone had done the landing of rockets the way the space x does before Elon…but that is the only case I see of real novel solution from scratchish.
I do love how a man that falls for every single piece of Russian propaganda he hears is going to be so close to the handles of power. Yep. Best timeline
Ugh. That's how I felt The Day After. Woke up in a Bad Timeline. 😢😂😅
whats funny is had the election gone a different way the US wouldve won the 21st century cold war before it even started. Russia or China just had absolutely no chance to compete against a united NATO and resillient US military... but no we just had to elect the putler puppet who wants to turn the military into his personal praise team and gut military contracts in favor of his autistic jumping buddy
27:51 fix your map. Crimea is part of Ukraine. That illegal occupation is only recognized by North Korea.
The occupation makes it a de facto Russian territory even if it's de jure Ukrainian
I think he does raise some valid points. Not everything situation will not require a fighter jet. Unless the drones in question are the loyal wingman type
Great analysis
Elon says FSD is just around the corner. Is he right?
Opinions of billionaires are obsolete........ stop asking the self obsessed moron questions.
Bingo...
Musk issue is like asking the function of B-52 bomber and fighter jet
I watch Combat Veteran Reacts a lot and he released an analysis on Musk's comment as well, which was well intentioned but lacked, some things. I'm glad you released this video. Good job on separating out the points throughout the analysis. I don't think there's anything that could have been done better.
I really appreciated your analogy between the political parties and the offensive and defensive coaches. Very clever sir, kudos. I am now ashamed that I have not come up with such a relatable illustration. A tip of the cap.
Oh, and the à la cart super thumbs up.
As always great video and I hate to inject politics but I stopped listening to Elon when he told people to vote republican and I'm not even American.
I'm not American, or political. But I will say this: if someone's political position is how you evaluate their merit, then you're locking yourself in a political echo chamber that will distort your perception of reality.
I mean no ill will with this statement, just food for thought
How did that work out for you? If you think Kamala was a better choice then everyone should stop listening to you lol
How about we revisit this topic once Tesla is capable of genuine autopilot. If our drone cars don't work properly, drone planes won't.
Autonomous flight is generally agreed to be a much easier problem than autonomous driving. There's a reason increasingly sophisticated autopilots were common by the 1940s, whereas it took until the 1990s for cars to get autonomy of similar usefulness.
@@kitnaylor7267 The autonomous flying you're talking about is akin to driving on an empty, straight highway. That's level 1 or 2 autonomous driving which even GM has achieved. Deciding whether to fire a missile or drop a bomb to minimize civilian casualties involves complex reasoning.
@@bobuhnitza Yes, that's exactly what I said. Driving is more complex than flying.
Also, aircraft and surface-to-air missile batteries have been autonomously firing on both air and ground targets for decades.
@@kitnaylor7267
If your takeaway from the problem of drones autonomously killing combatants in an area where civilians are present is, "driving is more complex than flying" stay far away from any job in the defense sector.
@@drksideofthewal You're intentionally misreading what I said, but ok 👍
Let’s take Elon for 9G spin in F16 automated aircraft. Could be fun.
Thank you for your level and actually patriotic take on how we should be approaching defense strategies and solutions.
Obligatory, manned aircraft will never be fully replaceable because humanity can never be replaced.
Excellent piece, nice argument and presentation, strong content and ending
Elon Musk is becoming the new Robert Macnamara
Mac wasn't immature and irrational.
Simultaneously a genius and a idiot at the same time. Know your lane and stay in it.
hes an HR genius, hes not an engineer or has ever built anything. He is just a great businessman who can hire great engineers
@@adrianlima2776 He is a great carnival barker.
everything he says is calculated to benefit his net worth not americans.
Well research and thought out video. Well Done!
I think the most important takeaway for this video is that fighter pilots very often rely on incomplete or imperfect information and need to make decisions based on them. Pilots have experience to rely on to handle fringe cases, while the AI (at least so far) can't be trained on any and all rare fringe cases, therefore won't have instructions to deal with this case and is likely to fall back on a the most reliable / secure basic set of behavior that, while fine in normal situations, might cause other problems in fringe cases. Take for example the case of the Tesla car in the US slowing down rapidly and breaking on the high way in a tunnel causing lots of collisions and a pileup. The car had a problem the FSD couldn't deal with and so it choose to fall back on the save option of slowing down and breaking - but to do this in the left lane on a high way was a bad decision (a human driver / the right decision would be to move to the right side / try to get out of the way of traffic and maybe even honking continuously and slowing down more slowly).
Bet he wouldn’t criticize Russian aircraft in this manner….
He has criticized Russian rockets quite a bit (and put them out of business)
Manned fighters are not obsolete yet. I do think the maturity of other technologies is slowly making them less optimal for some roles such as ground attack and maybe routine patrols. For now human crewed aircraft are still the best option for air-to-air engagements and really any operations in contested airspace.
Sandboxx is a great channel; but not bothering with this episode - musk is a knob
Thanks for the shoutout Alex (8:20).
-Maddog
Alex, I know you have never interviewed someone on this channel, but I really think you should try to get Elon on your show to discuss this topic. I love this channel and appreciate Elon and the two of you talking would make for an insanely good episode or series. No doubt, Elon did not mean by his comments that jet fighters should immediately be replaced. He was just pointing out that other systems are going to come along and completely disrupt traditional air dominance tactics. Also, Elon has access to data and research that few have. Sure its going to take a while for new tactics and systems to be conceived, designed, built and deployed, but the world is about to transform dramatically. People need to become more aware of this fact and change our discussions to discount traditional methods more than we have in the past because technological obsolescence is going to become a huge problem during the next few decades.
It’s a waste of energy to respond to Elon’s trolling.
Well... A knowledgeable person should educate him then because he will be in the Department of Government Efficiency.
Starlink is built for military use in mind-not for that Musk is such a caring philanthropist who wants to bring internet access to rural areas
Elon is a putz
Putz= pretty nuts!!
If I'm not mistaken, he has also said that the internal combustion engine is a thing of the past.