I admire your honesty for not following your checklist etc we are human and make mistakes, you stand out for being a man and admitting your wrong, massive respect for your UA-cam clips and keeping it real.
Thanks so much for sharing. I moved to CCR diving a couple of years ago, have about 100 CCR dives and recently completed MOD2 / TEC60. I still consider myself a beginner though! This is so valuable and has given me a lot to think about as I start to plan dives approaching these depths.
Happy for a safe bailout. Thank you for sharing, slow onset issues like that can be difficult to register. Thanks for showing your whole thought process while you were diagnosing and reacting.
In your video you have answered all your questions/ problems. All ways dive the unit on just under minimum lope volume that way every breath you take tells you the ppo2/depth and any problems in the lope. Only add diluent manually. This makes the diver more in tune with the Rebreather. It takes work to master it but works
Super interesting video. Probably will be getting into rebreather diving next year and this was a wonderful real life demonstration of bailout procedures.
Awesome video. Thanks for sharing. Kept your cool, stayed relaxed. Glad it all went smoothly, well the bailout! There is so much real-world information here to use if I ever move to CCR or even more technical diving.
There is definitely a lot to remember and we are only humans. It’s a testament to your experience that you did not panic and came out of the dive ok. I should imagine that if you came Hypoxic at any depth. You could possibly start making dangerous decisions that could cost you your life. Great video. Glad you are ok . 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Kudos firstly for keeping calm under those circumstances and secondly for sharing the vid and explaining your thought processes and take-aways for the future. This sort of 'real-life' info is always a real help to the CCR & wider dive community. Something which the old dive forums were really good at, back in the day and now seem lost in this faster media age. Also think the use of your Kindle was a good idea. Whilst not strictly trained protocol, anything IMO that maintains a little normality and calmness in those circumstances shouldn't be knocked. I'd have grabbed my mp3 player too !! *Side-note* I had a huge head-on accident on my sportsbike 10 or so years ago and when I returned for my 1st ride back a year later I found myself riding really anxious. I usually ride with some background tunes on but felt that wasn't appropriate on this 1st ride so had them switched off. After 10 minutes I was still anxious so hit 'Play' on my earpieces and was immediately calmed. What works works right ! A couple of thoughts on the dive, absolutely not criticisms, as above I firmly believe everyday is a shared experience day. Was a roll to the right and slight head-down to dump the water into the exhale counterlung an option to maintain some loop integrity ? From the volume accumulated in your scrubber at the end of the dive I suspect you would have had to de-water the c/lung at least once too which could have added to the faff when a B/Out is a 'less-steps' process. Maybe earlier thought when the gurgling started? Your buddy did a great job sticking with you throughout deco, not right up in your face but keeping in close quarters in case you needed assistance. Hat tipped to him too. One thing my buddy and I put into our dive protocols and practice is for if one of use indicates that we are switching to OC/ Bailout then the other diver also ID's and readies their similar bailout gas just in case yours fails just as you shove it in your gob ! Also acts as reassurance that there's another gas source within reach and shows we're on the same page. Some of these bailout tins/ regs don't get much use between inspections ! Lastly I'm also great user of Wetnotes (mostly for rude comms and cartoons of willies !) ... but I do have a pre-printed and laminated sheet in the front of my Wet-Notes with some easy buddy comms questions. i.e. Possible flood please check ... and then numbered options for the failure mode 1) Hose 2) C/lung 3) Scrubber etc... these can then be pointed at or indicated by buddy with number of fingers raised. I have a few other comms questions that can cut straight to the issue and again save faffing. Might be an option for the future Again kudos to all involved, including the attentive skipper and deck hand. Really enjoy these vids - keep 'em coming
@@B12OADY Thanks so much for taking the time to make such a lengthy comment and you make some really good suggestions there. I did try to shift water from the scrubber to the counterlung several times although you can't really see it on the video. It does work a bit but isn't a cure-all and obviously wouldn't have stopped the route cause!
Thanks for admitting you are human!!!! Lots of armchair divers. You were able to live through it learn from it and help others. The armchair haters can always point fingers. Thank you again for your information
Great video. Thanks for sharing. Your approach here reminds me of a concept used in aviation called Just Culture where people put their hands up and highlight their own mistakes for others to learn from for the betterment of the field as a whole. Your experience shone through here in your calm response to a challenge that may well have gotten the better of someone with less experience. Much respect 🫡. It would be great to see a video of your entire kit laid out on dry land with a brief explanation of what everything is and what it does sometime
Thanks, a very long time ago I used to be a military helicopter pilot so I'm used to Just Culture and the principles that surround it. Everyone is human and we can all learn! A video on my kit is in the offing .....
I like the idea of letting out excess gas from the side of the mouth I’ll have to try that next time I dive. I normally just let it out through my nose and everyone I dive with does the same
@ I don’t find it so if I’m honest. Feels fairly natural to be fair just like normal breathing in and out through the nose. But 100% will give the mouth vent a go. Diving Xmas morning next so will try then.
It’s why proper training and staying current comes into play. No panic, the bailout is there, stay calm and everything is fine. I have never dived closed circuit but I have done deep dives on air back in the 80’s when we were often first down on a wreck since it was sunk (narked pretty bad on one) Enjoy watching your vids. Brings back memories of channel wreck diving.
@@D33pUK I had a book published back at the end of the 1990’s called Dorset Shipwrecks, a comprehensive guide to the shipwrecks of Purbeck and Poole Bay. It’s still available on Amazon. A bit out of date as there are wrecks in the book that hadn’t been found at the time and are now dived regularly. Good for the history of the ship and it gives Lat/longs.
@steveshovlar994 I've got a copy! Very handy back in the day but wrecksite.eu is now the tool of choice as it has all the UKHO data on it and is routinely updated.
I’ve done successful positive or negative checks then had pressure at depth cause a flood. It happens. I dive a choptima and bailing to OC is easy though
As some one who is knocking on the door to CCR this was super interesting dude! Thanks for sharing. Also takes a big person to admit their mistakes as much as their success’. As you said all round positive outcome and great teamwork. See you Monday, Josh
Thanks for taking us along for the ride. Clear explanations and good footage of the incident and your thought processes during each stage, no slipping down the funnel of doom there. Another enjoyable video and self-critique👌
Appreciate the honesty regarding the pre-dive routine. Relatively new to rebreathers and still religiously going through them on my JJ. I think the most important question though is can we get a video on this waterproof kindle setup of yours? My wetnotes are mostly full of games of hangman my buddy and i have played during longer stops 😂
@@edbridges1164 Getting stressed rarely helps in situations like that. I'm fortunate that my background has prepared me for this sort of thing and I also have a limited imagination!
Hello. I am not a CCR Diver. Just AOW with EAN. Planing on Deep Diver next year. I know the substrate needs to be dry. Always wondered how to keep water out of the hoses? Which I am guessing why some have the Integrated Bailout.
Integrated bailout (aka Open Circuit Bailout) don't prevent water getting in the loop but make it easier (arguably) to bailout. OCBs have two modes - Open and Closed Circuit. In Closed Circuit mode, like any other rebreather mouthpiece, an OCB needs to be kept in your mouth otherwise water will enter the loop. In this case the water was coming in through the cannister rather than anywhere near the mouthpiece!
I've enjoyed your thorough, informative and interesting videos for a few weeks now and look forward to witnessing your adventures. Knowing a little bit about ccr, though the extent of my diving was in a pool, one question that occurs to me is in troubleshooting another diver's gear, buddy or otherwise. Prior to getting wet, do you familiarize yourselves with each other's systems? If not, would this help in any way, or are the distinctions between different makes/models small enough to be inconsequential? Thanks for all that you share with us and glad this situation wasn't worse. Cheers!
Cracking vid. you kept super cool under what was clearly a potentially deadly situation. Interesting thing for me, this ship was an alan furness withy vessel, my great grandfather (Arthur william hill) was the preferred pilot for that line working out of tilbury. There's a good chance he piloted this ship out on her last voyage. On his obituary it's stated that several of the ships he piloted during ww1 were torpedoed or mined so this could very well be one of them.
@shootingwithmitch5921 Not sure if you've seen my video where I talk about the incredible history of the wreck? ua-cam.com/video/AbJGB0EyTOs/v-deo.html The East Point was a regular visitor to the Thames so I'm sure your great-grandfather would have been on it!
Another informative video. I did a dive to seventy metres on CCR nearly twenty years ago. Boat was full of random people and on the way out to the site everyone's checking each other out and having a chat about the dive. I was in a team of three and we found out one of the other divers was on his own and wasn't carrying any bailout. My mates a CCR Instructor trainer and he starts asking this lad what his bailout plan was, he says he's diving alpinist and if something does happen he's going to take our gas. The reply he got was if you want our gas we're keeping your kit, up to you if you want to dive to that depth with no bailout gas but there's a price for our gas.
I think the 'alpinist' approach has gone out of fashion these days but I know that it used to be relatively common. Personally I only dive with people I know/trust.
@D33pUK it was never that popular for deep dives, especially not beyond fifty metres. When it comes to bail out gas there's no such thing as too much. I usually dive with loads of randoms so carry everything I need.
This was so interesting! Thank you for sharing the video and the in-depth commentary. Really appreciated! Glad you got out safe. Thanks again for posting this!
Wow, what an informative dive. I learned a lot about rebreathers and safety procedures. I'm glad that everything worked out and those procedures worked as they were designed to.
Thanks and hope you enjoy my other videos. No I didn't get a wet breath or any sort of unusual taste in the loop. As to why, then I'd suggest a few factors - it's quite difficult for liquid to get from the cannister to the mouthpiece and I got off the loop before the cannister became totally flooded.
@@cavedivemake5492 Glad you found it useful and yes I've reflected on what I do. I still think I did the pos/neg when I built the unit but I'm certainly more rigorous about it now. If I have to bail out again then I'll also ensure I stay closer to the lazy shot.
Since the scrubber was being flooded what about its efficiency absorbing CO2? Should it be concerned since you got aware of the problem with flooded scrubber? Than you for the video, enjoyed it.
Well done mate. Good on you for having the honesty to post this. Useful info. I have had 3 scares in 2300+ dives. I can only say there is training and then when it happens it is never as smooth as the practices. If you get most of it right you will live but it ain’t always that pretty. Safe diving.
Good video. I assume your unit passed Pos/neg before getting in the water. In hindsight, do you think it was wise to stay at (fairly deep) depth with the deco clock ticking when you knew your loop had a fairly large gas leak? As much as rebreathers do give us time to deal with certain issues, things like a loss of loop integrity should be an instant "thumb the dive" as soon as they are realized - especially before big amounts of deco build up. Glad you are ok.
I can't say 100% say but am pretty confident that it did pass the pos/neg. Pretty much every rebreather diver I know has dived with small amounts of liquid in the loop, not least because your lungs naturally produce it! Trying to decide when a small amount becomes 'too much' is the challenge but I agree that I left it too late.
@@ee02108 Remember that the scrubber wasnt't completely full when I bailed out, I spent approx 80 mins on open circuit which is when the loop filled completely. I'm sure sofnalime will have limited performance when wet but can't believe it will work well when fully immersed.
sofnolime can handle a little water. Your breath is moist and in fact, the chemical process of removing CO2 creates some moisture too. But cups of water, no.
Is it the modern scrubber or the modern cannister which allows for this apparently not getting a caustic cocktail phenomenon? i.e. is it a clever way that water can't mechanically leave the cannister, but the wet scrubber is dangerous, OR is it that the wet scrubber itself doesn't produce a caustic, and you potentially got some of that wet scrubber in your mouth while your rebreather was full of water? Thanks for the clarification, just an outside observer trying to understand a bit deeper!
I don’t want to sound rude and you’re doing more adventurous diving than I did but as someone who once owned an APD Inspiration I think I would have noticed the trapped cable at 58:41 when putting together the unit.
It is the presence of CO2 in your lungs which causes you to automatically breathe in (this is not triggered by lack of oxygen) so CO2 is not all bad! Diluent is a mixture of oxygen & inert gas? Unlike conventional rebreathers which use pure oxygen & are not safe below 33 feet (10 metres) because high partial pressures of oxygen become 'poisonous'.
@@Mikesworld777 They're great units and I dive with several people who use one. The automated pos/neg check feature identified a cracked scrubber cannister on a trip I was on a few months ago! I couldn't afford one though 😂
If you enjoyed this deep wreck diving video then check out my other ones 👉www.youtube.com/@D33pUK 🙏
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@@TheManunderwater Thanks - should be sorted now👍
As a new rebreather diver (about 25hrs), thank you for sharing your story. Kudos to your buddies as well!
I admire your honesty for not following your checklist etc we are human and make mistakes, you stand out for being a man and admitting your wrong, massive respect for your UA-cam clips and keeping it real.
This is absolutely brilliant. As a new ccr diver it is great to experience this as you explain everything step by step. Fantastic. Cheers.
@trevorduncan9635 Glad it was useful and good luck with your CCR journey!
Thanks so much for sharing. I moved to CCR diving a couple of years ago, have about 100 CCR dives and recently completed MOD2 / TEC60. I still consider myself a beginner though! This is so valuable and has given me a lot to think about as I start to plan dives approaching these depths.
We're all learning, best thing I've found is to surround yourself with as many experienced people as possible! Good luck with your journey.
Happy for a safe bailout. Thank you for sharing, slow onset issues like that can be difficult to register. Thanks for showing your whole thought process while you were diagnosing and reacting.
My pleasure, hope others find it useful!
In your video you have answered all your questions/ problems. All ways dive the unit on just under minimum lope volume that way every breath you take tells you the ppo2/depth and any problems in the lope.
Only add diluent manually.
This makes the diver more in tune with the Rebreather.
It takes work to master it but works
Excellent video. Very calmly dealt with. Glad you were ok
Super interesting video. Probably will be getting into rebreather diving next year and this was a wonderful real life demonstration of bailout procedures.
Enjoy - going CCR will transform your diving!
wow. I admire how calm and rational you are. As a beginner CCR user I enjoyed the heck out of this video. Thanks for sharing your thought process.
Awesome video. Thanks for sharing. Kept your cool, stayed relaxed. Glad it all went smoothly, well the bailout! There is so much real-world information here to use if I ever move to CCR or even more technical diving.
Dude! Well done for skills and keeping calm. Let he who hath sinned not cast the first stone!
There is definitely a lot to remember and we are only humans. It’s a testament to your experience that you did not panic and came out of the dive ok. I should imagine that if you came Hypoxic at any depth. You could possibly start making dangerous decisions that could cost you your life. Great video. Glad you are ok . 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Cheers, glad you found it interesting!
Thank you for sharing your story. Good job sorting things out.
Thanks for watching!
Kudos firstly for keeping calm under those circumstances and secondly for sharing the vid and explaining your thought processes and take-aways for the future. This sort of 'real-life' info is always a real help to the CCR & wider dive community. Something which the old dive forums were really good at, back in the day and now seem lost in this faster media age.
Also think the use of your Kindle was a good idea. Whilst not strictly trained protocol, anything IMO that maintains a little normality and calmness in those circumstances shouldn't be knocked. I'd have grabbed my mp3 player too !! *Side-note* I had a huge head-on accident on my sportsbike 10 or so years ago and when I returned for my 1st ride back a year later I found myself riding really anxious. I usually ride with some background tunes on but felt that wasn't appropriate on this 1st ride so had them switched off. After 10 minutes I was still anxious so hit 'Play' on my earpieces and was immediately calmed. What works works right !
A couple of thoughts on the dive, absolutely not criticisms, as above I firmly believe everyday is a shared experience day.
Was a roll to the right and slight head-down to dump the water into the exhale counterlung an option to maintain some loop integrity ? From the volume accumulated in your scrubber at the end of the dive I suspect you would have had to de-water the c/lung at least once too which could have added to the faff when a B/Out is a 'less-steps' process. Maybe earlier thought when the gurgling started?
Your buddy did a great job sticking with you throughout deco, not right up in your face but keeping in close quarters in case you needed assistance. Hat tipped to him too.
One thing my buddy and I put into our dive protocols and practice is for if one of use indicates that we are switching to OC/ Bailout then the other diver also ID's and readies their similar bailout gas just in case yours fails just as you shove it in your gob ! Also acts as reassurance that there's another gas source within reach and shows we're on the same page. Some of these bailout tins/ regs don't get much use between inspections !
Lastly I'm also great user of Wetnotes (mostly for rude comms and cartoons of willies !) ... but I do have a pre-printed and laminated sheet in the front of my Wet-Notes with some easy buddy comms questions. i.e. Possible flood please check ... and then numbered options for the failure mode 1) Hose 2) C/lung 3) Scrubber etc... these can then be pointed at or indicated by buddy with number of fingers raised. I have a few other comms questions that can cut straight to the issue and again save faffing. Might be an option for the future
Again kudos to all involved, including the attentive skipper and deck hand. Really enjoy these vids - keep 'em coming
@@B12OADY Thanks so much for taking the time to make such a lengthy comment and you make some really good suggestions there.
I did try to shift water from the scrubber to the counterlung several times although you can't really see it on the video. It does work a bit but isn't a cure-all and obviously wouldn't have stopped the route cause!
Thanks for admitting you are human!!!! Lots of armchair divers. You were able to live through it learn from it and help others. The armchair haters can always point fingers. Thank you again for your information
My pleasure and, like every other human being, I'm not perfect but I hope that the video will help others learn from my experience!
Thanks for sharing, this was really interesting to watch and throughout you clearly knew you had a bail out if all went pear shaped
@@colinwilliams9290 Thanks and you're right that I had good options open to me at every point in the dive!
Thank you for sharing. I have gained valuable knowledge from your content.
Thanks and glad to hear that you found it useful
Thank you for explanation
42 mins, an 80 Litre cylinder good vid dom, cheers
@@markdavies7798 Possibly a slight slip of the tongue at that point 😂
Cool as a cucumber my friend, hats off to you. Thanks for sharing and I hope you have a good Christmas mate. All the best from Somerset 👍🏻👍🏻💯✨
Cheers!
Another excellent vid, good dive team.
@@Johnx961 Thanks!
Great video. Thanks for sharing. Your approach here reminds me of a concept used in aviation called Just Culture where people put their hands up and highlight their own mistakes for others to learn from for the betterment of the field as a whole. Your experience shone through here in your calm response to a challenge that may well have gotten the better of someone with less experience. Much respect 🫡. It would be great to see a video of your entire kit laid out on dry land with a brief explanation of what everything is and what it does sometime
Thanks, a very long time ago I used to be a military helicopter pilot so I'm used to Just Culture and the principles that surround it. Everyone is human and we can all learn!
A video on my kit is in the offing .....
Awesome video, thank you for sharing!
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it
I like the idea of letting out excess gas from the side of the mouth I’ll have to try that next time I dive. I normally just let it out through my nose and everyone I dive with does the same
Really, that sounds quite uncomfortable especially on long ascents! Let me know how you get on with the mouth technique?
@ I don’t find it so if I’m honest. Feels fairly natural to be fair just like normal breathing in and out through the nose. But 100% will give the mouth vent a go. Diving Xmas morning next so will try then.
It’s why proper training and staying current comes into play. No panic, the bailout is there, stay calm and everything is fine. I have never dived closed circuit but I have done deep dives on air back in the 80’s when we were often first down on a wreck since it was sunk (narked pretty bad on one) Enjoy watching your vids. Brings back memories of channel wreck diving.
Absolutely!
@@D33pUK I had a book published back at the end of the 1990’s called Dorset Shipwrecks, a comprehensive guide to the shipwrecks of Purbeck and Poole Bay. It’s still available on Amazon. A bit out of date as there are wrecks in the book that hadn’t been found at the time and are now dived regularly. Good for the history of the ship and it gives Lat/longs.
@steveshovlar994 I've got a copy! Very handy back in the day but wrecksite.eu is now the tool of choice as it has all the UKHO data on it and is routinely updated.
So amazing lesson learn, thanks for sharing. No judgement at all, good lesson learn
@@deco_cafe_scuba Thanks, hopefully others will use it to inform their own decisions and diving practices!
Good informative video
Why does James have a crowbar 🤣 great video 👌
@@benfrost1994 Sounds like a question for James ....... he carries all sorts of odd stuff!
I’ve done successful positive or negative checks then had pressure at depth cause a flood. It happens. I dive a choptima and bailing to OC is easy though
Love to dive with such team as you had. Sounds like proper shout out for beer for team guys😅
@@deco_cafe_scuba 🍻🍺🍻
Enjoyed the video, my wife has banned me from re-breathers but a man can still dream ...
I can always remember my wife asking how long we'd owned the rebreather in the garage 🤣
As some one who is knocking on the door to CCR this was super interesting dude! Thanks for sharing. Also takes a big person to admit their mistakes as much as their success’. As you said all round positive outcome and great teamwork.
See you Monday,
Josh
@@ADJU-A Cheers mate - hope to see you there as well 👍
Thanks for taking us along for the ride. Clear explanations and good footage of the incident and your thought processes during each stage, no slipping down the funnel of doom there. Another enjoyable video and self-critique👌
@@chaingunner60 Thanks, hopefully it will be thought provoking/interesting for other divers!
Very educational, thanks for sharing. Keep posting :)
@@daveturton1784 Glad you found it useful - thanks 👍
Appreciate the honesty regarding the pre-dive routine. Relatively new to rebreathers and still religiously going through them on my JJ. I think the most important question though is can we get a video on this waterproof kindle setup of yours? My wetnotes are mostly full of games of hangman my buddy and i have played during longer stops 😂
It's on my to-do list as quite a few people have asked for this!
Great video....thanks!
That's what would scare me running into problems! But you seem as calm as a coma there
@@edbridges1164 Getting stressed rarely helps in situations like that. I'm fortunate that my background has prepared me for this sort of thing and I also have a limited imagination!
Hello. I am not a CCR Diver. Just AOW with EAN. Planing on Deep Diver next year. I know the substrate needs to be dry. Always wondered how to keep water out of the hoses? Which I am guessing why some have the Integrated Bailout.
Integrated bailout (aka Open Circuit Bailout) don't prevent water getting in the loop but make it easier (arguably) to bailout. OCBs have two modes - Open and Closed Circuit. In Closed Circuit mode, like any other rebreather mouthpiece, an OCB needs to be kept in your mouth otherwise water will enter the loop.
In this case the water was coming in through the cannister rather than anywhere near the mouthpiece!
I've enjoyed your thorough, informative and interesting videos for a few weeks now and look forward to witnessing your adventures.
Knowing a little bit about ccr, though the extent of my diving was in a pool, one question that occurs to me is in troubleshooting another diver's gear, buddy or otherwise. Prior to getting wet, do you familiarize yourselves with each other's systems? If not, would this help in any way, or are the distinctions between different makes/models small enough to be inconsequential?
Thanks for all that you share with us and glad this situation wasn't worse. Cheers!
There are some reasonable differences between units but they aren't that disimilar and we all know enough about them to be helpful underwater
Cracking vid. you kept super cool under what was clearly a potentially deadly situation. Interesting thing for me, this ship was an alan furness withy vessel, my great grandfather (Arthur william hill) was the preferred pilot for that line working out of tilbury. There's a good chance he piloted this ship out on her last voyage. On his obituary it's stated that several of the ships he piloted during ww1 were torpedoed or mined so this could very well be one of them.
@shootingwithmitch5921 Not sure if you've seen my video where I talk about the incredible history of the wreck? ua-cam.com/video/AbJGB0EyTOs/v-deo.html
The East Point was a regular visitor to the Thames so I'm sure your great-grandfather would have been on it!
That amazingly ungraceful entrance into the water actually loosened one of my front teeth!
Another informative video. I did a dive to seventy metres on CCR nearly twenty years ago. Boat was full of random people and on the way out to the site everyone's checking each other out and having a chat about the dive. I was in a team of three and we found out one of the other divers was on his own and wasn't carrying any bailout. My mates a CCR Instructor trainer and he starts asking this lad what his bailout plan was, he says he's diving alpinist and if something does happen he's going to take our gas. The reply he got was if you want our gas we're keeping your kit, up to you if you want to dive to that depth with no bailout gas but there's a price for our gas.
I think the 'alpinist' approach has gone out of fashion these days but I know that it used to be relatively common. Personally I only dive with people I know/trust.
@D33pUK it was never that popular for deep dives, especially not beyond fifty metres. When it comes to bail out gas there's no such thing as too much. I usually dive with loads of randoms so carry everything I need.
This was so interesting! Thank you for sharing the video and the in-depth commentary. Really appreciated! Glad you got out safe. Thanks again for posting this!
@@nir890 No problems at all, appreciate you watching it and taking the time to comment 👍
Wow, what an informative dive. I learned a lot about rebreathers and safety procedures. I'm glad that everything worked out and those procedures worked as they were designed to.
Glad it was helpful and you enjoyed it!
You got a sub! Great content.
Why didn't you get a wet breath or wet sorb caustic feeling?
Thanks
Thanks and hope you enjoy my other videos.
No I didn't get a wet breath or any sort of unusual taste in the loop. As to why, then I'd suggest a few factors - it's quite difficult for liquid to get from the cannister to the mouthpiece and I got off the loop before the cannister became totally flooded.
A very informative well made video, had it made you think of chamging anything with regard to deepe/ longer dives ?
@@cavedivemake5492 Glad you found it useful and yes I've reflected on what I do. I still think I did the pos/neg when I built the unit but I'm certainly more rigorous about it now. If I have to bail out again then I'll also ensure I stay closer to the lazy shot.
Since the scrubber was being flooded what about its efficiency absorbing CO2? Should it be concerned since you got aware of the problem with flooded scrubber?
Than you for the video, enjoyed it.
Well done mate. Good on you for having the honesty to post this. Useful info. I have had 3 scares in 2300+ dives. I can only say there is training and then when it happens it is never as smooth as the practices. If you get most of it right you will live but it ain’t always that pretty. Safe diving.
Thanks!
Great example of proper preparation prevents piss poor performance.
Well done for a good result.
Thanks - nice to know that systems work when you need them!
What are those stringy things with what appear to be lumps inside them floating around?
They’re called salps, the next day there were a lot more of them it really helped to pass the time on deco.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salp
Good video.
I assume your unit passed Pos/neg before getting in the water.
In hindsight, do you think it was wise to stay at (fairly deep) depth with the deco clock ticking when you knew your loop had a fairly large gas leak?
As much as rebreathers do give us time to deal with certain issues, things like a loss of loop integrity should be an instant "thumb the dive" as soon as they are realized - especially before big amounts of deco build up.
Glad you are ok.
I can't say 100% say but am pretty confident that it did pass the pos/neg.
Pretty much every rebreather diver I know has dived with small amounts of liquid in the loop, not least because your lungs naturally produce it! Trying to decide when a small amount becomes 'too much' is the challenge but I agree that I left it too late.
Very good vid! One question: Does softlime still work when it is full of water?
@@ee02108 Remember that the scrubber wasnt't completely full when I bailed out, I spent approx 80 mins on open circuit which is when the loop filled completely.
I'm sure sofnalime will have limited performance when wet but can't believe it will work well when fully immersed.
sofnolime can handle a little water. Your breath is moist and in fact, the chemical process of removing CO2 creates some moisture too. But cups of water, no.
I’m not any kind of diver. However, it does sound to me as if just maybe… you had a case of _plate-fever!_
@thruknobulaxii2020 - no doubt about that!
You got a sub!!!!!
Thanks @ivoryjohnson4662
Is it the modern scrubber or the modern cannister which allows for this apparently not getting a caustic cocktail phenomenon? i.e. is it a clever way that water can't mechanically leave the cannister, but the wet scrubber is dangerous, OR is it that the wet scrubber itself doesn't produce a caustic, and you potentially got some of that wet scrubber in your mouth while your rebreather was full of water? Thanks for the clarification, just an outside observer trying to understand a bit deeper!
@@snared_ It's modern sofnalime which just doesn't seem to react to water that older sofnalime did. If it did I would have bailed out much earlier!
what are those creatures all over around 43:30 ???
@@Sucralose2 They're salps, had loads of them this summer
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salp
Did you notice buoyancy changes when the gas escaped when you changed position?
@@Ihsaan1c Not really, as you'll see in the video I was changing depth regularly during the dive.
As a former professional diver when I was young (so MANY years ago) I should have died twice, and both times I put myself in those bad situations.
Absolutely, Human Factors are easily the most important causes of diving incidents!
I don’t want to sound rude and you’re doing more adventurous diving than I did but as someone who once owned an APD Inspiration I think I would have noticed the trapped cable at 58:41 when putting together the unit.
Not rude at all and it's a reasonable question. For whatever reason, I didn't notice the wire when I assembled it but I can't say why!
did it not show up on the +/- tests before the dive?
edit....should have watched more of the video!!
@@windymiller1974 Glad you got to the point where I covered that 😂
Did you notice a wet breath?
@@Ihsaan1c No wet breath but I could hear a lot of gurgling towards the end!
Proper training and practice will do the job!👍👍👍
Absolutely - prepare for the worst and you'll be fine!
It is the presence of CO2 in your lungs which causes you to automatically breathe in (this is not triggered by lack of oxygen) so CO2 is not all bad!
Diluent is a mixture of oxygen & inert gas?
Unlike conventional rebreathers which use pure oxygen & are not safe below 33 feet (10 metres) because high partial pressures of oxygen become 'poisonous'.
Yes you're correct on all of those things!
Time for a liberty 😅
@@Mikesworld777 They're great units and I dive with several people who use one. The automated pos/neg check feature identified a cracked scrubber cannister on a trip I was on a few months ago!
I couldn't afford one though 😂
@ a lot of the divers I support are using them. They are fantastic for exploration as either primary or b/o
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@DIVETALK should react to this!!!
Yes I'd love to get their views!
I bet they will
@@rylanbrowne5658I hope so, I submitted a recommendation on their website 😜
I know Woody's first reaction:
"I wanna go there!"
@@dlabor1965 The English Channel is full of similar wrecks - we're so lucky!