Density or Sprawl? How To Solve the Urban Housing Crisis

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • Land use regulation is making cities unaffordable. In an unfettered market, how would Americans choose to live?
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    The mass migration of human beings from the country to the city started with the Industrial Revolution. According to the U.N., 2007 was the tipping point when more of humanity lived in urban than rural areas. And the trend continues: A projected two-thirds of the global population will live in cities by 2050.
    In the U.S., cities have become remarkably expensive because housing prices have outpaced wage growth. Developers don't build enough new supply to meet rising demand because a thicket of regulations artificially drive up building costs.
    Is the solution more density in the core or more sprawl in the periphery-or both? If governments were to remove the artificial restrictions and incentives that shape the landscape of American cities, how would urban dwellers choose to live?
    "There is a huge pent up demand for density and for urban living that simply is not being able to get met because of the restrictive zoning," says urban policy analyst Scott Beyer, founder of The Market Urbanism Report, which promotes market-based solutions to urban planning issues.
    Beyer says that urban residents want to live close together in the center city, but that local and state governments are making that difficult with land-use regulations, citing onerous building codes and environmental and public review requirements.
    "It really goes down the list of all the different ways that the government controls the pricing and use of land," says Beyer.
    Libertarian urban policy analyst Randall O'Toole, who calls himself "the Antiplanner," agrees that many city governments overregulate land use but disagrees with Beyer's claim that more density is the answer to housing affordability.
    "Truly affordable housing would be low-density housing built on the urban fringe," says O'Toole. He blames so-called "smart growth" policies meant to increase urban density for discouraging land outside of a city proper from being developed at all-a goal furthered by the passage of then California State Senator Darrell Steinberg's 2008 anti-greenhouse emissions law.
    Eight years ago, Southern California's planners adopted a 23-year regional plan to help realize Steinberg's vision.
    "The goal that urban planners have had for many years is not to make housing more affordable, but to pack people into higher-density urban areas," says O'Toole. "And that's a goal that I don't think Americans should support."
    Beyer agrees that cities should loosen urban growth boundaries, but he argues that more density, not sprawl, would still be more likely in cities San Francisco, citing high land values as evidence of the pent-up demand.
    Beyer also points out that homeowners typically don't pay the full cost required to get roads, electrical lines, and other city infrastructure out to the suburbs.
    "And so I kind of view the suburbs as an outcome of social engineering and government planning to a degree. And I look at urban density as the outcome as a more organic market-based outcome," says Beyer.
    The density question can only be answered if the government stops interfering with the housing market, allowing consumer preferences to shape the urban landscape.
    And that's something O'Toole and Beyer would both like to see.
    "The government control of land use and zoning has caused housing to be unaffordable," says Beyer. "And I think that market urbanism is a way to reverse those trends."
    Produced by Zach Weissmueller. Camera by Jim Epstein, Andrew Hinton, John Osterhoudt, Justin Monticello, and Weissmueller. Graphics by Lex Villena.
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  • @TV-xv1le
    @TV-xv1le 4 роки тому +848

    What do we want? MORE HOUSING!!
    Where do we want it? NOT HERE!

    • @Victor-my1hi
      @Victor-my1hi 4 роки тому +13

      Super Power The soultion is simple, larger roads, more houses, more suburbias, appartments are un-American, each with their own house and truck!

    • @Victor-my1hi
      @Victor-my1hi 4 роки тому +17

      Bob Smith we could also jail more people so that more houses become available, and deport more people, why the f**k even build houses anymore

    • @kevinodom2918
      @kevinodom2918 4 роки тому +11

      @Bob Smith immigration is only one piece of the problem. rent controls & dumb ass govt policies are the others.
      Crazy but it turns out that when you tell the ones w the money who are willing to take the risk that after they get done working & investing all the $ they borrowed &/or saved up in a couple years that they just wasted their time & money it's crazy but they decide to build somewhere else where the local /state govt arent complete morons.
      Why in the hell would anyone build homes if they cant profit & its pretty simple, more people than houses = more expensive houses.
      Plenty of houses available & investors lower rents and prices to sell & fill them up.
      Govt knows this but when your voters are dumb asses & need to someone to blame it's always easy
      blaming the ones w more money.

    • @johne7345
      @johne7345 4 роки тому +8

      Precisely, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with people wanting to protect our established residential neighborhoods from overcrowding and overdevelopment. With major shifts to online retail and telecommuting, there are plenty of underutilized shopping malls and sprawling business/commercial/industrial parks and car lots that can be redeveloped into affordable housing, without destroying our suburbs.

    • @TV-xv1le
      @TV-xv1le 4 роки тому +40

      @@johne7345 The problem is that the nimby population does not want building anywhere. Thats the point. Suburbs or not. I have watched them fight tooth and nail against building apartment buildings in areas that are not near their precious houses. On one hand we realized we have a housing crisis and on the other we make it impossible for builders to put up housing anywhere. Lots of eye opening videos you can go through of people trying to create more housing only to have to spend years trying to get it done if at all.

  • @mayamaeru
    @mayamaeru 4 роки тому +7

    japan allows any type of building anywhere too. much more affordable there. even in tokyo

    • @kronk358
      @kronk358 3 роки тому +2

      Tokyo has entire apartments the size of aa small living room.

    • @Nuvendil
      @Nuvendil 3 роки тому +5

      @@kronk358 it also has town homes, single family homes, larger apartments, condos, courtyard apartments. Basically every kind of housing you can name in a variety of sizes and price points. Which is a good thing, it allows all kinds of people to access the goods, services, and opportunities found in their most vibrant cities.

  • @rogueraven1333
    @rogueraven1333 4 роки тому +4

    Open the market up and let people buy a home wherever they want

    • @kronk358
      @kronk358 3 роки тому +1

      People CAN buy a house wherever they want. But a company cant put a steel mill 2 lots away from your moms 2 bedroom ranch.

  • @Hands2HealNow
    @Hands2HealNow 4 роки тому +12

    Denial of authoritarians being self serving is everywhere including in the voice of the so called expert talking here.

    • @darthhodges
      @darthhodges 4 роки тому +1

      Remember, every government decision maker has a high enough salary to be not just a rich person, but often in the top 5%. Of course they are self serving.

  • @jeremyrainman
    @jeremyrainman 4 роки тому +1

    With pandemics, sprawl is better than density.

  • @MrMasterharrison30
    @MrMasterharrison30 4 роки тому +337

    "Will ruin the aesthetics of the city" did my man just argue that more affordable housing should be resisted because it wont look pretty?

    • @MrMasterharrison30
      @MrMasterharrison30 4 роки тому +16

      @@RenzoIsHereYT I see three problems here.
      1. Even if I agreed what you are stating, the individual in this video made no mention of that being the reason by which he is against more housing.
      2. I find it very unlikely that unpleasant architecture is the main factor in the violence of those who reside in say the projects for instance. I also do not think it is easy to determine to what degree the environment either stimulates this behavior or those with said behavior are simply drawn to such environments.
      3. I believe that ugly homes are better than no homes. If the time to get nicer housing is too long it is likely better to just create shite housing. Surely no housing at all creates a worse environment that ugly houses.

    • @tiedanhuo9731
      @tiedanhuo9731 4 роки тому +7

      Kaisar so having no “ugly houses” is more important than the health and live hoods of people? Do you seriously think that people would prefer to have to pay huge amounts of money to rent a tiny cage like in Hong Kong because of zoning or live in a so called “box” because they feel that that is the best option for them?

    • @fortusvictus8297
      @fortusvictus8297 4 роки тому +4

      @@RenzoIsHereYT Fancy words for avoiding 'Property Value' which is the real issue.
      There is plenty of land in our world for far more massive cities in far more massive places. Its just where and how that matters.
      China is not that much bigger in land size, but has 20 of the top 80 largest cities (US has 9, and they are on the smaller end). Of the largest in the world, the first one in the US is NYC at #11...the rest are ALL in Asia with exceptions of Mex City and Sao Paulo.

    • @nachoskyful
      @nachoskyful 3 роки тому +10

      no he just argued that brown people will move in the neighborhood

    • @chrissthrlnd
      @chrissthrlnd 3 роки тому +1

      What are the beautiful places people come to see? Places with large minimum lots? Places with smaller front yards, lots of trees, and narrow streets? Places with tall buildings?

  • @NYsalsa101
    @NYsalsa101 3 роки тому +145

    A major issues with the sprawl approach that wasn't addressed by it's advocates in this video is increased commuting times, the need for the government to build additional infrastructure and also deforestation and destruction of the environment. Yes it is the cheapest way to build more housing but that is because much of the costs get externalized

    • @Jamcad01
      @Jamcad01 2 роки тому +2

      The commute time argument is false. Lower density metro areas have shorter commute times than higher density ones. Not everyone works in the CBD.

    • @urbanistgod
      @urbanistgod 2 роки тому +1

      Not with electric cars and work from home

    • @Earth098
      @Earth098 2 роки тому +16

      Yes, and it costs millions to build and maintain those sprawling infrastructure

    • @Earth098
      @Earth098 2 роки тому +10

      @@Jamcad01 But there aren't many job opportunities in the suburbs, right? So everyone would need to commute to the commercial areas. Also your commuting time argument only applicable for places with poor public transportation.

    • @Jamcad01
      @Jamcad01 2 роки тому +1

      @@Earth098 This is false. Heaps of jobs in the suburbs now in many metro areas

  • @erikkrauss8481
    @erikkrauss8481 3 роки тому +35

    Forcing to only build low density is what results in hour plus long commutes.

  • @sholinwright6621
    @sholinwright6621 4 роки тому +380

    Sen holly Mitchell: “who will be my new neighbor “, a statement the KKK would be comfortable with.

    • @notyourtypicalfarah7194
      @notyourtypicalfarah7194 4 роки тому +10

      @dskmb3 Source?

    • @craner325
      @craner325 4 роки тому +28

      Yes Sen Mitchell,,, please answer your own question here,,,, Hmm,, interesting,,, diversity is this great thing that everybody preaches until you ,,, well,,, actually have to be diverse

    • @erikkovacs3097
      @erikkovacs3097 4 роки тому +14

      I would LOVE to read her mind at that meeting. Chinese? Mexican? White millenials with man buns?

    • @notyourtypicalfarah7194
      @notyourtypicalfarah7194 4 роки тому +2

      @dskmb3 thanks

    • @kevinodom2918
      @kevinodom2918 4 роки тому +12

      Yeah really. Who the hell wouldn't want
      a lot of people coming in and completely changing your culture & way of life & if you dont like it you're called an evil racist.
      Worked out well for the native Americans

  • @yvrelna
    @yvrelna 3 роки тому +65

    "Density or Sprawl?" is the wrong question to ask.
    There's an answer to this already, sprawl is financially unsound, so you can just outright cross that out. Low density, single family housing only look cheap to build at first, but this is only because it is borrowing from its own future. These neighbourhoods cannot generate enough taxes to maintain their own public infrastructures like roads, pipes, electricity, etc in the long run. The cost of building and maintaining infrastructures for low density neighbourhoods are much more expensive per capita than in higher density neighbourhoods, because they needed more pipes, more roads, more cables, etc to serve the same number of population. In about twenty five years or so, when many these pubic infrastructures start to need to be replaced, cities often either becomes insolvent and even bankrupt, or has to resort to other unsustainable methods of fundings, or more often than not they are just letting those infrastructure to crumble.
    High density isn't really the answer either, high density neighbourhoods are financially sound, but if they're not designed the right way, they can become a depressing concrete jungle. And while it has much better track records than low density suburbs, if poorly designed, its fiscal soundness isn't necessarily guaranteed either.
    What you want to build is a livable, walkable, mixed use neighbourhood, centred around a robust public transport. The key point here isn't density, but walkability, having a robust local economy allows the neighbourhood to generate the tax revenue to financially sustain itself, and are livable because of a thriving local economy powered by local residents visiting small businesses, like small shops, grocers, and restaurants. These kind of neighbourhoods are cheaper to live in, because building walkable neighbourhoods means you rely a lot less on cars.
    A walkable neighbourhoods does usually also happens to be medium to high density, mixed use neighbourhood, because low density neighbourhood cannot generate enough foot traffic to sustain local businesses. Most low density residence would rather drive to big box store some distance away rather than support their local economy, because their local economy is just too far away to actually walk into.
    Just getting high density neighbourhoods alone is not enough, if there's not a thriving local commercial sector within walking distance. Density is a red herring.
    Low density sprawls don't get bad raps due to some obscure vision of urban planners of how humans should live. They get bad raps because it's a ticking time bomb when a city builds too much of these.

    • @kronk358
      @kronk358 3 роки тому +2

      Bullshit. Look at Columbus Ohio. 14th largest city in the country. Where almost the entire city is urban sprawl. It has been one of the fastest growing cities for decades. 900,000 people and the skyline of a city about one tenth as large. I dont know where your claim that suburban sprawl is financially unsustainable comes from, but it obviously doesnt come from reality.

    • @yvrelna
      @yvrelna 3 роки тому +26

      @@kronk358 You would need to look into the city's balance books on where the money funding those unsustainable growths are coming from. In pretty much all of these low density residentials that defines urban sprawl, they are running on long term deficits. They may have ok cashflow but they're not saving up enough to replace their public infrastructures when they're due, and have to supplement their tax revenue from elsewhere.
      Where is "elsewhere"? Building of low density neighbourhoods are often funded by federal fundings and revenues that the city collected from constructions of new neighbourhoods. This is a fragile financing model, as it depends on ever increasing rate of growth which can't continue forever. It's just delaying the inevitable, and worsening its future impact. If the rate of growth slows down, the whole thing will start to unravel, and the impact of the fiscally unsustainable development practice is going to hurt a lot of people.
      Strong Town has a great article titled "The Real Reason Your City Has No Money" accompanying their studies in city's budgets across North America. Other readings from there that might also be useful in understanding the issues are the series of articles in "The Growth Ponzi Scheme" and "The Density Question". They have published hundreds of articles that address these issues in much more details and finesse than I can ever provide.
      As I said above though, density and sprawl is a red herring, they're the wrong question to ask. Low density can be made to work to be fiscally sound, but for it to work, they need to accept a significantly trimmed down infrastructure, passing off many modern conveniences that people have come to expect, or by collecting substantially higher taxes which would never work out for most people with the median income of the area. In other words, they need to become either rural areas (not suburbans) or stay as very small number of very upperclass neighbourhood, very premium real estate. These are compromises that most modern Americans just would never be able to accept.

    • @lau4893
      @lau4893 2 роки тому +3

      You're absolutely right

    • @squidlytv
      @squidlytv 2 роки тому +2

      @@kronk358 It's easy as hell for cities to go into debt and sprawl like mad. However that sprawl being made profitable is questionable at best.

    • @MrMarinus18
      @MrMarinus18 2 роки тому +3

      @@kronk358 Suburbs are financially sound as long as they keep growing. However when they stop growing is when the problems start.
      A sustainable city is one that can grow and shrink and grow and shrink with the times without going bankrupt.

  • @PHRCpvh
    @PHRCpvh 3 роки тому +165

    I'm a 25 year old, single, white-collar worker...and I tottaly prefer to live in a medium/high density mixed zoned neighborhood where I can walk and shop without the need to get a vehicle out of the garage. Maybe I'll live in a single-family home in the future when I have my own family, but until then, I like to be in the middle of a vibrant city.

    • @greenmachine5600
      @greenmachine5600 3 роки тому +7

      Same for me

    • @paxundpeace9970
      @paxundpeace9970 3 роки тому +7

      This is the solution.

    • @paxundpeace9970
      @paxundpeace9970 3 роки тому +19

      Check out City Beautiful or Not Just Bikes.

    • @GhostOfAMachine
      @GhostOfAMachine 3 роки тому +13

      I raise my family of 5 in a high density neighborhood, so do millions of others. It is a lot better for kids growing up

    • @andrewcoffer
      @andrewcoffer 3 роки тому +3

      I'd like to make an edit to single-family home: (single-family row home) you can still stay in the middle of the city and have a family. And to be totally honest cities need this to be stable.

  • @suthinanahkist2521
    @suthinanahkist2521 4 роки тому +335

    A mix of low, medium and high density housing is the solution. All tastes and budgets could then be accommodated easily. Not everyone wants to live in a high rise apartment. Similarly, not everyone is equipped to do the chores required to maintain a farm or other large piece of land. Also, there's people who prefer and can afford to live there communities with resort style amenities. And everything in between.
    Thus, no one-size-fits-all solution can possibly exist!

    • @henrytep8884
      @henrytep8884 4 роки тому +13

      We need a 3d print machine for houses, Henry Ford style, you can choose your color, but it's going to be black

    • @suthinanahkist2521
      @suthinanahkist2521 4 роки тому +12

      @Bob Smith Overpopulated? There's enough land and resources to support several billion people in the USA. The real problem with mass immigration is an overburdened infrastructure and welfare system.

    • @LucasFernandez-fk8se
      @LucasFernandez-fk8se 4 роки тому +5

      Suthin Anahkist Im surprised Houston has no zoning at all. It looks so neat and zoned. Must be the developers doing a good job then making it look like a well planned well zoned city instead

    • @suthinanahkist2521
      @suthinanahkist2521 4 роки тому

      @@LucasFernandez-fk8se Houston is really the only major city in the USA that doesn't have zoning.

    • @dylanthornsberry8778
      @dylanthornsberry8778 4 роки тому +16

      @Bob Smith overpopulated? You would have a heart attack if you visited cities in Asia. LA looks like a rural town next to NYC. NYC looks like a rural town next to Shanghai

  • @Johnny5477
    @Johnny5477 4 роки тому +241

    6:03 “We would just ruin the aesthetics...”
    My dude, how aesthetically pleasing is the homeless crisis? Things change and evolve, communities change and evolve, and it’s batshit crazy to place a particular aesthetic over the well-being and financial solvency of your constituents.
    Like, people are going there either way.
    And they call us conservatives.

    • @LadyIarConnacht
      @LadyIarConnacht 4 роки тому +4

      Yes, the pods will bring total health and well-being to the humans trapped in them. Why not just release us from the huge land taxes on every freaking rural piece of property in the state and people will go back to the land, grow tomatoes and be healthy?

    • @Johnny5477
      @Johnny5477 4 роки тому +27

      Katherine Chapman Don’t see why this is a binary choice. If people want to live in an apartment downtown, make that good. If people want to live out in the desert or mountains or plains, let them.
      And truth be told, the people living in “pods” downtown might actually be healthier because they’re out walking more.

    • @cjanon305
      @cjanon305 4 роки тому +5

      Life without aesthetics is worthless

    • @LucasFernandez-fk8se
      @LucasFernandez-fk8se 4 роки тому +1

      Bob Smith well to be fair yes and no. It is the housing prices which is why they are on the street but also the mental illness and drugs. Drugs cost a lot and so when you can either pay for pricey drugs or pricey rent then they pay for pricey drugs. In places like Detroit their are very few homeless people because a burnt down crack house may be as cheap as a dollar. This is very affordable even for a homeless person so less of a homeless crisis

    • @bigdickmcgee3293
      @bigdickmcgee3293 4 роки тому +4

      because its California you can't say the quiet part out loud. housing can't be both affordable and a good investment. more housing=lower rent

  • @watchdealer11
    @watchdealer11 4 роки тому +296

    I have lived in Houston for the past 15 years. You can buy a mansion for the same price you'd pay for a matchbox in NYC.

    • @Dufffaaa93
      @Dufffaaa93 4 роки тому +79

      Yes, because the mansion is in a bumfuck nowhere.

    • @chucksolutions4579
      @chucksolutions4579 4 роки тому +42

      Dufffaaa93
      Stay where you are, enjoy your "lifestyle."
      We will just keep living. I personally live in a small apartment San Diego bc I am in the military, but I dream of returning to farm.
      And if you think Houston is "nowhere" what would you think of my ideal place to live, coastal Alaska with no roads in or out (i have lived there and loved it, I've lived in Hong Kong, New York, Charleston, and a few small towns, give me LAND!)

    • @benjaminkesler5245
      @benjaminkesler5245 4 роки тому +81

      @@Dufffaaa93 Houston has 2.3 million residents and is the 4th largest city in the US. I'm not sure can call that 'bumfuck nowhere'

    • @Alejandr01836
      @Alejandr01836 4 роки тому +26

      Only downside is the affordable suburbs require a hefty commute into town so there are increased transportation costs to consider. And the "nice" neighborhoods I side 610 are pricier. My commute to the medical center from Cypress was like 35 minutes in and nearly am hour out. -_-
      That's just big city life though I guess.

    • @SepticFuddy
      @SepticFuddy 4 роки тому +41

      @@benjaminkesler5245 He's a typical case of the clueless New Yorker. They think they are cultured and educated when in reality they are nearly entirely ignorant of the world outside their mega-metropolitan bubble. They think Long Island is "the countryside"

  • @ТомасАндерсон-в1е
    @ТомасАндерсон-в1е 4 роки тому +371

    The less restrictions there are on construction, the cheaper housing will be. The rest is for the consumer to decide.

    • @schumanhuman
      @schumanhuman 4 роки тому +13

      China famously used more concrete in 3 year (2011- 13) than the US did in the whole of the 20thC, yet it hasn't made their housing cheaper. They have a huge credit bubble, credit invariably manifests in land speculation regardless of zoning. Upzoning and building is only part of the solution, the externalities must be captured via a land value tax.

    • @ТомасАндерсон-в1е
      @ТомасАндерсон-в1е 4 роки тому +30

      @@schumanhuman the reasons behind China's housing situation are complex and multifaceted, but suffice it to say that China has moved more people out of poverty and into cities since Deng Xiaoping's reforms than the US had population in the entire 20th century. They would have insane housing shortages no matter what they did.

    • @schumanhuman
      @schumanhuman 4 роки тому +14

      @@ТомасАндерсон-в1е Yes China have achieved a lot, but they have failed to curb malinvestments. Ghost cities are no figment of the imagination. Xi himself recently said that housing should be for living in not for speculation, they have tacitly acknowledged that the land bubble is at a peak and are now trying to socialise the company and bank failures away to create a 'soft landing'.
      China has no property tax at all, that allowed speculation to run riot. When property prices fall locals begin to riot so the state intervenes by banning sales below a certain price.
      And this is not peculiar to China or EM's, my home city London according to the ONS data now has more housing units per family than it did 15 years ago, yet prices are higher. Land prices are intimately linked to aggregate bank credit, affordable housing will never result from the simplistic supply demand arguments of market urbanists.

    • @shanewillbur1325
      @shanewillbur1325 4 роки тому +1

      @@schumanhuman meanwhile:
      ua-cam.com/video/2cjPgNBNeLU/v-deo.html

    • @alanhoff89
      @alanhoff89 4 роки тому +4

      @@schumanhuman yeah bc China used housing for inflating their GDP.. Much different from the demand and supply of a free market.

  • @Irongambit89z
    @Irongambit89z 4 роки тому +219

    If you just reduce the regulations and let people decide where they want to live it will sort itself out. this is the perfect example of when you need to let market sort itself out and stop trying to social engineer society.

    • @jackmcslay
      @jackmcslay 4 роки тому +19

      @@Rich-jk8ev Reduce immigration -> lower supply of labor -> higher cost of labour -> higher housing prices
      Low-skilled immigrants are not going to be out buying 6-figure homes when they are likely to have to hop from city to city to find jobs where they'll look for something they can rent with roommates

    • @jackspaeth7144
      @jackspaeth7144 4 роки тому

      @noah rogers youre a crazy person

    • @jackspaeth7144
      @jackspaeth7144 4 роки тому +9

      I don't think everyone just gets to "decide" where they live. This comment section is just full of people ignorant of just how complicated this problem is. I'm not saying I have the answers, but supply and demand and simply "letting the market sort itself out" is not the solution. Mixed income neighborhoods seem like a good place to start (which certainly would not happen in letting the market sort itself out).

    • @BleachRush
      @BleachRush 4 роки тому +5

      that would work if everyone starting on the same level on a new land. not a well established one. This suggestion will benefit big cooperate and Real estate giants to builds complexes over complexes and you'll be in a giant cube of a city. That's not housing, that's bee's kingdom.

    • @parisgansmuelly1052
      @parisgansmuelly1052 4 роки тому +1

      @@jackmcslay The immigrants are high-skilled, jejune moron. Also, at least you admit you want to lower American wages.

  • @MonteroOnBoxing
    @MonteroOnBoxing 4 роки тому +105

    Senator Mitchell: “who will be my new neighbors?“

    • @tiedanhuo9731
      @tiedanhuo9731 4 роки тому +3

      Michael Montero or racist

    • @ToddKeck98
      @ToddKeck98 3 роки тому +8

      "Diversity for thee, but not for me [in this context people like Senator Mitchell]."
      -Carson, Watson, probably some other conservatives as well as a small handful of centrists

    • @justcrypto618
      @justcrypto618 3 роки тому +3

      @@ToddKeck98 and like that BLM founder who bought 4 homes in neighborhoods which were 90% white

  • @ingislakur
    @ingislakur 4 роки тому +35

    living closest to work is the way to go. it saves 1-2 hours per day. Let that sink in!

    • @halasimov1362
      @halasimov1362 4 роки тому +1

      ZeroZ
      But growing food on your own property saves a ton of resources.

    • @millerrepin4452
      @millerrepin4452 4 роки тому +13

      @@halasimov1362 assuming the person has time/energy/motivation to grow their own food

    • @matthewbiehl3412
      @matthewbiehl3412 4 роки тому +19

      @@halasimov1362 Lmao who the hell is growing their own food in the suburbs? Sustenance farming sucks and is inefficient, hence why every country that materially develops ditches agrarian economies.

    • @ToddKeck98
      @ToddKeck98 3 роки тому +10

      ​@@halasimov1362 You can do that in an apartment. It's not the 1930s anymore.

    • @TheSpecialJ11
      @TheSpecialJ11 3 роки тому +8

      @@matthewbiehl3412 It's often illegal to grow your own food in the suburbs anyway. At least in your front yard, where if your house faces south, that's where your food would grow.

  • @theclamhammer4447
    @theclamhammer4447 4 роки тому +144

    It’s hilarious when a officials say things like ‘California shouldn’t house the entire country” simultaneously advocating open borders.

    • @suckmyass7368
      @suckmyass7368 4 роки тому +2

      What's wrong with open borders? Just get rid of the welfare system.

    • @Victor-my1hi
      @Victor-my1hi 4 роки тому +1

      Its's not Californians's fault that a lot of people want to move to California, is not theire fault they are cursed with Silicon Valley

    • @suckmyass7368
      @suckmyass7368 4 роки тому +1

      @@Victor-my1hi No but it is there fault for implementing a state wide rent control scam.

    • @Victor-my1hi
      @Victor-my1hi 4 роки тому +1

      Suck My Ass Californians? what fault do they have, when big companies like microsoft, dell, google and apple are lobying in the California administrative affairs. You think rent controll was voted by the people, think better

  • @리주민
    @리주민 4 роки тому +56

    Japan keeps housing prices down by a myriad of policies, including mixed zoning (height-based zones rather than residential, commerical, etc) and urban exclusive zones. Great mostly private railways and bus lines.

    • @trent6319
      @trent6319 3 роки тому +1

      Does Japan have private railroads or just privete trains & services? The US has privitley owned railroads and I think these monoplies are part of the reason our rails are so terrible. Ik Europe has alot of publicly owned lines with private trains.

    • @리주민
      @리주민 3 роки тому

      @@trent6319
      They own both the rails and the trains.

    • @ianhomerpura8937
      @ianhomerpura8937 2 роки тому +1

      Here is a video about Japanese zoning regulations.
      ua-cam.com/video/wfm2xCKOCNk/v-deo.html
      And yes @trent Japan has private rail companies. Lots of them.

    • @wade1391
      @wade1391 2 роки тому

      @@trent6319 most public transport in the u.s. is government owned. if anyone is the monopoly, it is the government.

    • @trent6319
      @trent6319 2 роки тому

      @@wade1391 yes the vast majority of local public transport in the US owns its own track but Amtrak mostly doesn't they pay freight companies that own the track to use it. These freight companies owning the only railroad in a region have an effect monopoly.

  • @mattiopattio
    @mattiopattio 4 роки тому +68

    “property rights is like a bundle of sticks”

    • @Volodimar
      @Volodimar 4 роки тому +12

      "fag•got" in old french))

    • @JamesThomas-pj2lx
      @JamesThomas-pj2lx 4 роки тому +5

      @@Volodimar ..... root word fasces, latin.... guess where the term fascist comes from.....?

    • @freesk8
      @freesk8 4 роки тому +14

      @@JamesThomas-pj2lx Fascists do not support property rights. All property was potentially seizable by the state if it wanted or needed it. Fascism is a racist form of socialism.

    • @christianmoore7109
      @christianmoore7109 4 роки тому +5

      @@JamesThomas-pj2lx He used a pretty stupid metaphor.

    • @christianmoore7109
      @christianmoore7109 4 роки тому +2

      @@freesk8 If I could like this twice I would.

  • @anastasiab9506
    @anastasiab9506 4 роки тому +42

    How about both density AND sprawl? My friend for example LOVES to live in the middle of NYC, while i prefer to live in a suburb. it should be a CHOICE.

    • @jcgw2
      @jcgw2 4 роки тому +16

      just let people build. developers will build what people want to buy. let the free market decide

    • @victormn47
      @victormn47 3 роки тому +16

      @@jcgw2 However, people should pay for the cost of the services they receive (which are more expensive to provide in single family neighborhoods) and cars should be taxed for their externalities. Before this is done, you can't trust the free market to create the optimal outcome.

    • @dudeman4184
      @dudeman4184 2 роки тому

      but your way of living shouldn't be subsidized by the city.

    • @musqul8566
      @musqul8566 2 роки тому

      @@dudeman4184 the city shouldn't tax me then

  • @iwanttosurvive3992
    @iwanttosurvive3992 4 роки тому +82

    From my observations in life so far, I feel that 3 story apartment buildings that take up about 2 city blocks max - with a decent distance from one complex to the next - can fit into single-family home neighborhoods the best and are not overbearing visually or traffic wise.

    • @Jamcad01
      @Jamcad01 4 роки тому +5

      I live in a single story 2 bedroom unit with a garage on a large block with 7 other detached units. It suits my single lifestyle well and the block still fits in aesthetically with the rest of the middle class neighbourhood

    • @KRYMauL
      @KRYMauL 3 роки тому +12

      Honestly I think town houses fit in as well especially if you give a courtyard. I would see no functional difference between this and a curl-de-sac.

    • @urbanistgod
      @urbanistgod 2 роки тому

      It is actually.

  • @coletrain5667
    @coletrain5667 4 роки тому +46

    I'd like to see a more in depth video done on Houston and their covenants.

    • @coletrain5667
      @coletrain5667 4 роки тому +2

      @noah rogers I just don't trust the idea that these covenants represent a real free market, and the government isn't involved somehow and creating problems.

    • @TheSpecialJ11
      @TheSpecialJ11 3 роки тому +6

      @@coletrain5667 They absolutely don't represent a free market and are a terrible example. Cities before 1920 represent a free market.

    • @Aeyekay0
      @Aeyekay0 2 роки тому

      It’s true that Houston doesn’t have “zoning” but Houston does indeed have ordinances that you would find in most city zoning regulations. So it’s really dishonest and lazy to point to Houston as the future of urban planning.

    • @hashiramasenju6058
      @hashiramasenju6058 2 роки тому +3

      @@Aeyekay0 They do have restrictions (like parking requirements, minimum lot size, etc) but the restrictions become more and more relaxed every year and sometimes they even offer exemptions to these restrictions. Three story townhomes are popping up very quickly here in Houston and many other cities would not allow that at all.

  • @JETZcorp
    @JETZcorp 4 роки тому +19

    The narrator sounds like a kid mediating an argument between divorced parents.
    "Mommy says that suburbs are socialist because of freeways."
    "Well you tell 'mommy' that city centers are socialist because of growth boundaries and transit boondoggles!"
    Beyer. O'Toole. Get a room. And by room I mean Soho Forum Debate.

    • @Victor-my1hi
      @Victor-my1hi 4 роки тому +1

      JETZcorp US needs more highways and more sprawl. Milenials, get a f**king truck! and move to the suburbs

  • @Wesrl
    @Wesrl 4 роки тому +79

    “Who will be my neighbor” someone who can afford your neighbors house because it cost to much for them

    • @jp1135
      @jp1135 4 роки тому +6

      It is literally illegal for a real estate agent to answer that question

    • @anastasiab9506
      @anastasiab9506 4 роки тому +1

      actually not always. Sometimes your neighbor will be an illegal or a weed smoking non-working leech "asylee" who got in on a quota for low income housing.

    • @JamesThomas-pj2lx
      @JamesThomas-pj2lx 4 роки тому +1

      @@anastasiab9506 .... Mary Jane got nothing to do with it, leave her out of it!

  • @mattbalfe2983
    @mattbalfe2983 2 роки тому +5

    In a true free market suburbs don't exist because property taxes don't fully pay for needed services like city water, sewer, and roads. So you need debt financing to subsidize infrastructure for car centric sprawl.

  • @chopinbloc
    @chopinbloc 4 роки тому +36

    Easy answer: the market. Stop trying to "solve" problems and let people do as they please.
    But sprawl tends not to breed as much poverty and crime as density does.

    • @SofaSpy
      @SofaSpy 4 роки тому +7

      Actually statistically speaking density and sprawl both have the same crime rate and poverty. You shouldn't look at the overall stats but stats per capital. A city with 1 million people and 100 murders is safer than a town with 900 people and 1 murder. Also most crime stats only track populations of 100k plus which falsely makes smaller towns and cities look safer

    • @RenzoIsHereYT
      @RenzoIsHereYT 4 роки тому +1

      The Chopping Block don’t allow the free market to create cities... we won’t get Paris, Vienna, bath, or Venice with the free market... we will get Dubai...

    • @burgerman101
      @burgerman101 3 роки тому

      @@SofaSpy Look up the Kowloon Walled City.

    • @SofaSpy
      @SofaSpy 3 роки тому

      @@burgerman101 what do a slum have to do with what we are talking about? Have you driving in rural west virginia and rural parts of Tennessee. Or rural/ suburban parts of North Dakota, those the only slums you will find in America. There are rural slums, suburbs also, urban slums. Slums have nothing to do with this topic.

    • @bruhbutwhytho
      @bruhbutwhytho 2 роки тому

      Look at Boston, NYC or even Chicago and compare that to Memphis, st.lous and Detroit.

  • @kaydenl6836
    @kaydenl6836 2 роки тому +7

    Houston absolutely has strict regulations on building higher density and mixed use neighborhoods. Just because there is no standard zoning does it mean there aren’t regulations and barriers. City Beautiful did a great video on this topic.
    Extending cities outwards is not a bad idea, *sprawling* outwards is the problem. San Francisco is so expensive because there’s not enough supply to meet extremely high demand. People want to live there. However they want to live there because there are no other San Francisco’s- or at least, in the USA, very few like it. Go ahead and develop on the peripheral of San Francisco, just develop it’s the way people actually want so that they will choose that new development over trying to cram into San Francisco.
    You simply cannot meet the demand of San Francisco by building a sprawling suburb. That’s precisely because a suburb cannot give the amenities and lifestyle that makes San Francisco so desirable. It’s a complete fucking myth that suburbia is affordable.
    Check out Tracy, CA. It’s a commuter city with a population of nearly 100,000, and 1/5th the population density. It’s a boring ass city, very car dependent, and almost all SFH. It’s depressing to drive through. Yet, The houses out there are similarly priced to those in San Francisco when you compare unit to unit. Sure the houses and lots are larger, but so are the seas of asphalt and there are far less job opportunities and green space. What use is a giant front yard you will never spend your time in abs a backyard that’s just a pain to maintain? Why spend $1,000,000 for a hot, boring city when you could live in a $1,000,000 townhome-still keeping a private backyard, even-within an economically self sustaining city full of amenities? Is the extra space that you rarely ever use and just waste money on really worth it?

  • @CaliRepublic77
    @CaliRepublic77 4 роки тому +25

    Tokyo Metropolitan Population: 38.14 million
    Area: 5,419 mi²
    No housing shortage; No homelessness
    California Population: 39.56 million
    Area: 163,696 mi²
    Housing crisis and major homelessness issue
    Democrats have failed California. Yes, they are responsible, it's a one party state.

    • @ligametis
      @ligametis 4 роки тому

      Japan has decreasing population.

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall 4 роки тому +5

      @@ligametis But Tokyo is not a decreasing population, which is the example OP used.

    • @ligametis
      @ligametis 4 роки тому

      @@shorewall but it also doesn't have very quickly increasing population for its size.

    • @Polyglot_English
      @Polyglot_English 4 роки тому

      @@ligametis yes it does, actually.

    • @ligametis
      @ligametis 4 роки тому

      @@Polyglot_English wikipedia article shows that Tokyo population growth is really not that high.

  • @curtisthompson1783
    @curtisthompson1783 3 роки тому +24

    Randal O'Toole's opinion is worth less than a grain of salt considering he works for the Cato Institute which is heavily funded by the oil & gas industry.

    • @Lucasjamespetersen
      @Lucasjamespetersen 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah that guy is so pumped full of oil money. Fuck him

    • @Cyrus992
      @Cyrus992 7 місяців тому

      Best comment. Great to see more and more see his true colors

    • @abarbar06
      @abarbar06 Місяць тому

      He's a tool

  • @iononionunion8682
    @iononionunion8682 3 роки тому +48

    You know what I always say when it comes to when it comes to urban planning, Amsterdam is one of the best cities to live in, Paris is the densest city in Europe yet you never hear any problems with trafic or it being too dense. We have amazing examples of massive cities preforming way way better than US/Canadian cities yet we seem to be unable to look outside of our own country. What a shame.

    • @dylanhoward7668
      @dylanhoward7668 2 роки тому +12

      Amsterdam and Paris are both extremelly unnafordable city, and Paris traffic is horrendous. Not good examples at all.

    • @harmonicarchipelgo9351
      @harmonicarchipelgo9351 2 роки тому +6

      Have you actually been to Paris? The traffic is *intense*.

    • @DRL1320
      @DRL1320 2 роки тому +5

      Just returned from ten days in central Paris, with half a dozen journeys by car, bus and commuter rail to suburban areas. It is a model of intense density plus relative mobility: only auto access points to its periphery road was as crowded as nearly any in-town freeway in LA or Nashville. It is an excellent model for how we can accommodate many, many more people per square mile in a mixed-use environment that people clamor to be a part of. The single family cul de sacs? We shall always have them among us. But they should not be required by law where there’s a demand for mixed-use medium density.

    • @ianhomerpura8937
      @ianhomerpura8937 2 роки тому +1

      @@harmonicarchipelgo9351 compared to LA? It isn't

    • @brownerjerry174
      @brownerjerry174 Рік тому +1

      Paris is a bad example. I like amsterdam but are Americans ready to ditch the car for a bicycle?
      The advantages are obvious like living in the smack dab middle of the city will still be a pretty chill and calm vibe with very less noise.

  • @flatearthfatboy9589
    @flatearthfatboy9589 4 роки тому +18

    Manufacturing Scarcity

  • @scorpio252000
    @scorpio252000 2 роки тому +7

    Even though Houston doesn't have Zoning laws, there are a plethora of regulations and when combined, works just like zoning.

  • @WeAreHere-42
    @WeAreHere-42 4 роки тому +58

    'Mo centralization, 'mo problems

    • @giovanninopanderino5235
      @giovanninopanderino5235 4 роки тому +3

      We Are Here a little known secret among Urban Planners ... they’re clueless.

  • @Lildizzle420
    @Lildizzle420 3 роки тому +12

    urban planners didn't "lose their minds" it's actually more consistent with many goals to increase density and walkability, mixed use TOD, preserving character of many but not all neighborhoods, increasing affordability and creating inclusionary zoning. the alternative is to build duplexes as far the eye can see and completely change cities for ever.

  • @GarthGoldberg
    @GarthGoldberg 4 роки тому +57

    I know Steinberg from law school. He’s never had a job that wasn’t associated with California government. He doesn’t understand the private sector.

  • @Polyester_Avalanche
    @Polyester_Avalanche 4 роки тому +13

    Get the government's hands out of housing, trust in the magic of the free market.

    • @RenzoIsHereYT
      @RenzoIsHereYT 4 роки тому +5

      Polyester Avalanche the free market will turn Paris into Dubai. It will turn Vienna into Russia. Cheaper buildings built for function will not create beautiful cities that are meant for humans... but instead brutalist architecture meant to be as cheap as possible.
      Function < Form

    • @jcgw2
      @jcgw2 4 роки тому

      @@RenzoIsHereYT then convince people to not buy an ugly house. that way developers will have to build more beautiful housing

    • @RenzoIsHereYT
      @RenzoIsHereYT 4 роки тому +2

      @@jcgw2 or make laws that say you can only build certain heights, styles, designs, etc. If I were to try and convince people this video would be it: ua-cam.com/video/Hy4QjmKzF1c/v-deo.html
      The free market is good when it comes to creating phones, medicines, TVs, and apps. But everyone knows the free market is here to make a profit not to create beauty. This is why you rarely see companies sponsor taking care of a garden or making sure a park looks good because they don't care. The gov HAS to come in and fund that. European cities are the envy of the world. What we need is a less free-market city planning and more centralized city planning with companies coming up with designs they want to create and the government sees if it works for the city and allows it. This is how Vienna was created, Paris was made, and London used to be. Trust me I hate government being involved in a lot of things but if they have to control something it has to be city design. Paris > Dubai. Vienna > Hong kong.

    • @MrMarinus18
      @MrMarinus18 2 роки тому

      @@RenzoIsHereYT Russia and Dubai are not free market in the slightest. They are both incredibly autocratic with a few powerful people at the top deciding everything.

  • @리주민
    @리주민 4 роки тому +13

    How about mixed zoning so each neighbourhood is self sufficient for the most part within a town, and towns within a city, and cities within a metropolis, as needed. Shouldn't have to drive miles away to go to work.

    • @chrissthrlnd
      @chrissthrlnd 3 роки тому +5

      That's what naturally occured before it was regulated away.

    • @peskypigeonx
      @peskypigeonx 3 роки тому

      @@chrissthrlnd And NOW most cities have a majority of SFZ, sometimes over 3/4s

  • @DiegoMonroyF
    @DiegoMonroyF 4 роки тому +40

    People can live in a wide variety of home types, and probably will throughout their lives; just don't artificially inflate the prices by regulating what you can do with private property.

    • @ireminmon
      @ireminmon 4 роки тому

      Height restrictions ensure the proper reception of sunlight for everyone involved.
      Don't fuck around with this "muh right to reduce your property value" bullshit.

    • @soulfuzz368
      @soulfuzz368 4 роки тому +6

      Ire Min Mon “muh right to sunlight” lol

    • @urbanistgod
      @urbanistgod 2 роки тому

      You have a say if you already live in a neighborhood

    • @ianhomerpura8937
      @ianhomerpura8937 2 роки тому

      @@ireminmon just curious why the hell are Americans too fascinated with sunlight?
      You want sunlight? Walk.

    • @ireminmon
      @ireminmon 2 роки тому

      @@ianhomerpura8937 Im not even American. And its not like I rarely walk. Light is extremely important

  • @Loathomar
    @Loathomar 4 роки тому +24

    The old guy is confusing the fact that high density house cost is high in areas with extremely high house cost with the idea that high density house has an underlying higher cost. If the land value is zero, home value because very low. We can see this with mobile home prices, $50K for 1,000 square feet, but you want to put that mobile home in the down town area of a city, the land will cost $500K or more, so the total cost is $550K. And what is this BS about building homes where land is cheap? If you work in downtown LA and want to have a house where land is cheap, you will be ~50 mile or more away have have 3 hours of driving or more, per day to get to work. Also, if you have two people driving 50 mile each way to work, that will cost you $2,000 per month in auto costs.

    • @AllenGraetz
      @AllenGraetz 4 роки тому +4

      95% of jobs in LA are not downtown.

    • @Jamcad01
      @Jamcad01 2 роки тому

      The point is, it's cheaper to build bigger homes on the outer fringe than in the middle of an already developed area. Preventing outer fringe development means there's less affordable places for people to live in, and it also further increases the cost of land in the dense area as it becomes the only option

  • @JNYC-gb1pp
    @JNYC-gb1pp 4 роки тому +9

    Liberals:
    - We want more housing - but more empty space
    - We want mass immigration - but fewer people in the cities
    - We want high wages - but we want to import people who push wages down
    - We want regulation on the size of buildings - but we also want more buildings
    - We want to help the homeless - but we don't want it where we live
    - We want the government to pay to house people - but we don't want to be taxed for it
    - We want to protect indigenous species by avoiding urban sprawl - but we want to open our borders so there is more causes of urban sprawl
    - We want caps on rents - but we want unlimited supply of capped rental properties
    This is the problem of liberalism; it wants opposite things.

    • @thelizardking7700
      @thelizardking7700 4 роки тому +1

      That's not liberalism. You're getting liberalism mixed up with progressivism, protectionism, obstructionism. It's the NIMBY's (which are on both sides). True neoliberals oppose zoning and rent caps, and want MORE construction.

    • @thelizardking7700
      @thelizardking7700 4 роки тому

      I do agree that there is a lot of hypocrisy among the progressive NIMBYs blocking construction.

    • @matrixman8582
      @matrixman8582 4 роки тому +2

      Immigration is irrelevant to wages and sprawl. You just hate brown people

    • @repairdrive
      @repairdrive 10 місяців тому

      ​@@matrixman8582😄😄

    • @matrixman8582
      @matrixman8582 10 місяців тому

      @@repairdrive Cope harder. Open borders or global free enterprise. Pick one

  • @aviadlampert5956
    @aviadlampert5956 3 роки тому +12

    Living in dense areas makes you spend less money and time (time can be translated into money) on transportation. So the buildings might be more expensive per meter, but maybe it woth it financialy.

    • @urbanistgod
      @urbanistgod 2 роки тому +2

      So? You still end up living like a sardine instead of living in a single family home

    • @APaleDot
      @APaleDot 2 роки тому +3

      @@urbanistgod
      Nobody's forcing _you_ to live in dense areas. Zoning is forcing detached single-family homes onto residents.

    • @urbanistgod
      @urbanistgod 2 роки тому

      @@APaleDot Oh don’t come up with that crap. Homeowners have the right to have a low density environment

    • @APaleDot
      @APaleDot 2 роки тому +2

      @@urbanistgod
      First of all, no, they don't.
      Secondly, we're talking about zoning. That is, homeowners forcing their city to be low density, not the other way around. If there is demand for low density, the market will meet that demand.

    • @urbanistgod
      @urbanistgod 2 роки тому

      @@APaleDot Dude, again with your crap. The situation is that some entitled people wanna live where they can’t afford to live and therefore they ruin quiet neighborhoods with duplexes and condos and they also destroy the character and the soul of these neighborhoods. If there are zoning laws then that means that that’s what people want. Don’t come up with that “market” bullshit. Zoning laws exist for a reason.

  • @cyrusol
    @cyrusol 2 роки тому +7

    So much misinformation.
    People who misunderstand that housing would just be about housing... when it's about walkability, trust, parks, traffic, public transit, affordability, sustainability, amenities...
    Low density is absolute trash. Only serves the car manufacturing and fossil fuel industries. Not the people.

  • @toniderdon
    @toniderdon 2 роки тому +3

    6:17 oh my god this guy is really lucky that stupidity doesn't hurt

  • @suadela87
    @suadela87 3 роки тому +2

    O’Neal is wrong. He is looking at correlation and calling it causation.
    I’ve lived in Houston my entire life. Yes, housing is considered much cheaper here and you can get a bit more bang for your buck. However, gentrifiers have noticed this and prices are going up pretty fast.
    Meanwhile, the more sprawl there is, the worse flooding gets. We need to compact our city more and allow forests to grow around and through communities to soak up as much water as possible. Laying down cement everywhere is not only ugly as fuck but causes so much damage when hurricanes and other tropical storms hit us. (Harvey and the two Allisons being among the worst).
    Single family homes use up more city resources than more densely populated areas. The amount of plumbing that stretches between lots, the length of roads, the energy costs to heat and cool a single family home vs an apartment (provided they have the same insulation rating). All these things are often subsidized by local government causing many of them to lose money because they can raise taxes high enough to really pay for the infrastructure.
    My point is that more density is better for those who want to live in the city. If you want to live in the country, then go to the country. But this in-between system we have is not working. We should have denser cities with good public infrastructure that encourage people to walk instead of forcing people to drive. We should allow space for nature to be nature. We should allow space for people to live in the country instead of replacing farmland with suburbs.
    Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.

    • @ariv8585
      @ariv8585 3 роки тому +1

      Agreed. We need infrastructure that includes dedicated bike lanes to encourage people to cycle instead of driving. Cities can be made more compact if roads are made narrower and parking lots shrink because we have fewer cars on the road. Look into how the Denmark and the Netherlands is rebuilding its infrastructure with people and bicycles in mind.

  • @FamousByFriday
    @FamousByFriday 3 роки тому +3

    I’m 42 married w kids in the suburbs. I’d love to live in a walkable community with bicycle lanes and public transportation. This video is so high level it barely touches on anything. The video never discussed why people really move to the suburbs. (Crime? Schools? Cost? Corruption? …). It just seems to assume it’s because we love mowing the grass once a week. I also think it may be misleading to say that Houston doesn’t have any city planning, but I’m not the person to ask about that so l’ll let you research yourself. Also the video never discusses economic implications of constant sprawl nor does it discuss the ecological implications. There are other reasons to do things beyond preference.

  • @GabiN64
    @GabiN64 2 роки тому +2

    So these politicians prefer to have homeless crisis to protect the aesthetic of single family home neighborhoods? They need to:
    1. Build more medium and high density housing
    2. Improve mass transit options to provide alternative to driving on roads.

  • @ricker024
    @ricker024 3 роки тому +7

    It's simple run a freaking city budget! If utility and infrastructure costs can't be compensated by current tax revenue increase the tax revenue per acre by building up more medium or high density to get more efficiency out of your utilities per acre!!! City Budgeting 101! Keep your management costs under control! Otherwise limit city utilities and infrastructure for lower densities!

  • @banditonehundred
    @banditonehundred 3 роки тому +3

    So the libertarian is okay for groups to restrict construction on their own land

  • @ericf5978
    @ericf5978 4 роки тому +72

    Well balanced, insightful, informative. We'll done.

  • @ElasticGiraffe
    @ElasticGiraffe 2 роки тому +2

    Time to revisit the Georgist/geolibertarian land value tax.

  • @Maxime_K-G
    @Maxime_K-G 3 роки тому +9

    6:54 I live in a country where this is actually often the case and I gotta tell you it isn't actually such a bad thing. Those apartment buildings can look just as nice as traditional houses and fit right in. Of course if you've never seen something like that you'd think it would never work but that isn't true.

    • @deian85
      @deian85 Рік тому +1

      Of course it's not a bad thing. It's how most of the world has built civilizations with the exception of the United States in the past 70 years

  • @GabiN64
    @GabiN64 2 роки тому +2

    I like living in an apartment. Not everyone wants to take care of lawn

  • @l0ndon429
    @l0ndon429 4 роки тому +13

    A five story building next to a 2 story suburban home. That's literally super reasonable lol.

    • @cameronjournal
      @cameronjournal 3 роки тому +5

      My parent's neighborhood has apartment buildings along the edges of the suburbs. So when you drive into their part of town, there are apartments and then it turns into single-family houses. There's open space separating them. This is the best solution for the suburbs.

    • @l0ndon429
      @l0ndon429 3 роки тому +2

      @@cameronjournal On the contrary I think all apartment buildings should be as close to transit/shops as possible at the centre of town.

    • @trent6319
      @trent6319 3 роки тому

      When my small town built a couple 4-5 story apartment buildings near our downtown it brought back our down town by having enough people in walkable distance and there so pleasant looking and offer ground level businesses. I have freinds who love living in them and I love having them as neighbors.

  • @aaronanglea
    @aaronanglea 4 роки тому +7

    No one owns property. Stop paying property tax and watch how fast "your" property is taken from you

    • @abarbar06
      @abarbar06 Місяць тому

      Land value tax should be the only tax

  • @robert2690
    @robert2690 3 роки тому +4

    The reason why we buy land to build our own house is to transition so that way, my parents house will become my HOUSE. So it’s a generational home.
    I don’t like anyone living above me or right next door so strangers can hear me through the wall and complain that I’m “too noisy”. That’s why I hate living in apartments and condos.

    • @urbanistgod
      @urbanistgod 2 роки тому

      You’re right

    • @rkbelmont1138
      @rkbelmont1138 2 роки тому

      True. I have an apartment of my own, but constantly stay with my mom on her big ghouse ever since we lost my dad, so she's not alone. The testament already estipumates I will inherit the house. And in the future the house will belong to my daughters.

  • @Elsneakakaze
    @Elsneakakaze 4 роки тому +7

    Stop moving to cities, leave them, move to nowhere, built your own house outside city bounds

    • @WhiteOut-
      @WhiteOut- 4 роки тому

      Boycott cities?

    • @kronk358
      @kronk358 3 роки тому

      People dont know how to build things anymore. Or how to cook (they have to live near restaurants) . Or how to take responsibility for their own actions or their future.

    • @GabiN64
      @GabiN64 2 роки тому

      Brb no jobs 💀

  • @danielbrockerttravel
    @danielbrockerttravel 3 роки тому +3

    In Singapore 80% of people live in public housing. It's not just for the poor. It's also for the middle class. Housing is dense and transit oriented.

    • @bhalps
      @bhalps 3 роки тому +2

      lol, Singapore is a micro country island.

  • @jameslongstaff2762
    @jameslongstaff2762 2 роки тому +3

    "Houston has no zoning laws" Nope. Not true. Sure they don't call the laws that restrict zoning regulations as "zoning laws", but those laws still exist on their books.

  • @geode9512
    @geode9512 4 роки тому +3

    walkable european neighborhoods with public transport, storefronts, and parks combine comfort, community, and density.

    • @AsiaMinor12
      @AsiaMinor12 3 роки тому

      That's never going to happen here in the Unites States.

  • @Zones33
    @Zones33 4 роки тому +5

    In my eyes, Tokyo is a city to aspire to. Bombed to hell in WW2, they built and modernized afterwards the same time we started building suburbia

    • @urbanistgod
      @urbanistgod 2 роки тому

      Tokyo is way too dense. Perfection is great American suburbs.

  • @SepticFuddy
    @SepticFuddy 4 роки тому +26

    Business regulations prop up giant corporations, giant corporations bring in masses of workers to one locale. Cut regulation, allow smaller businesses to compete, and populations will be able to decentralize better as their jobs become decentralized. Combined with modern logistics and the internet, a lot of businesses could set up shop just about anywhere they wanted

    • @stuartdriedger9989
      @stuartdriedger9989 4 роки тому +3

      one paragraph cured the world of all problems!!! give this man a medal 😐

    • @matrixman8582
      @matrixman8582 4 роки тому

      And how will all the scattered populations be connected? How will they get internet

    • @SepticFuddy
      @SepticFuddy 4 роки тому

      @@matrixman8582 The same ways they do in those places now. Nobody said anything about wandering out to the wilderness, however, Skylink is fixing that issue as we speak anyways at least in regards to internet.

    • @matrixman8582
      @matrixman8582 4 роки тому +1

      @@SepticFuddy And you realize that currently rural infrastructure require billions in federal subsidization, as well as govt contractors like SpaceX.

    • @SepticFuddy
      @SepticFuddy 4 роки тому +1

      @@matrixman8582 And if it were left up to the people using it to pay for that infrastructure, it would be built much more efficiently, according to need.

  • @Aeyekay0
    @Aeyekay0 2 роки тому +3

    12:00 It’s true that Houston doesn’t have “zoning” but Houston does indeed have ordinances that you would find in most city zoning regulations. So it’s really dishonest and lazy to point to Houston as the future of urban planning.

  • @benhouse5515
    @benhouse5515 4 роки тому +6

    Why not both?

  • @Staremperor
    @Staremperor Рік тому +1

    When the guy talks about terrible idea of mix of single family homes and midrises (he said five-story building) should see European cities. WE LIVE THIS "TERRIBLE" IDEA without issues. I'll quote Richard Dawkins here: "It works, bitches"

  • @patjohn775
    @patjohn775 2 роки тому +2

    Now that cities have been hollowed out by covid we can see what people really want. They want to live in rural and sub urban areas. Politicians want you to live in the city so they can increase the tax revenue.

    • @bruhbutwhytho
      @bruhbutwhytho 2 роки тому +2

      No, that's not want most people want, you don't get to speak for everyone. Most people I know would rather live in a mid rise in a city than a copy paste suburban hellscape.

  • @jsegovia
    @jsegovia Рік тому +1

    Randall O'Toole doesn't sound like much of a libertarian at all. A libertarian should understand that suburbs are HEAVILY subsidized by government. Urban sprawl is not the solution!

  • @robe_p3857
    @robe_p3857 4 роки тому +4

    Need LVT.

    • @Dan16673
      @Dan16673 4 роки тому

      Nah. Highly un profitable

  • @johnjohnson3390
    @johnjohnson3390 2 роки тому +2

    Ruin the anesthetics? Thats subjective

  • @ZemikianUchiha
    @ZemikianUchiha 4 роки тому +8

    Houstonian here, love the cost of living.

    • @Jamcad01
      @Jamcad01 4 роки тому +2

      From someone who lives in Melbourne Australia, I'm insanely jealous. Even with my chronic health condition, the universal health care here does not come close to making up the difference, especially with the higher taxes and petrol costs

  • @BmoreIrish
    @BmoreIrish Рік тому +1

    The problem with thinking Houston is the free market is the infrastructure is enormously subsidized. Especially since it’s transportation is almost entirely automobile (the most expensive form of transit.)
    Sprawl isn’t affordable without huge subsidies.

  • @suiteadditions
    @suiteadditions 4 роки тому +3

    Wanting and being able to afford it are 2 separate things. The infrastructure costs of suburban sprawl is unsustainable, regardless of how much you "prefer" it. Per capita, a suburban resident pays disproportionately lower property taxes than a high density resident. No easy solutions but logic would say halt all further sprawl immediately and allow incremental density (2, 3, 4 units in existing suburbs). Politics and financing of suburban sprawl has been a ponzi scheme for developers and municipalities since 1950 won't work anymore for US and similar countries (Canada/Australia).

    • @urbanistgod
      @urbanistgod 2 роки тому

      It is sustainable as long as we do not have overpopulation

  • @george_cantstandya
    @george_cantstandya 2 роки тому +1

    I’m a free market guy however Houston sucks. I’m not saying it’s because of their lack of zoning I’m just saying it sucks. Worst looking city of all major metros.
    Maybe it’s the zoning maybe it’s not. But it’s ugly af.

  • @Br3ttM
    @Br3ttM 4 роки тому +6

    Suburban yards just seem like a waste of space to me, especially front yards, which are mostly just a place to display some grass. People need to think more about convenience and enjoyment, rather than something to show off, and it seems like younger generations are shifting that way. Using the same space as a couple blocks of suburbs you could build an apartment and a nice park. With the amount of time people are spending indoors anyway, having so much grass just for yourself seems like a waste. And when people are outside, how much of that time is walking/jogging/biking? A park is better for that than a sidewalk or street. An apartment can have some individual reserved plots of land, too, if you want to have your own stuff set up, and give people plots in a garden, if they want to grow veggies.

    • @azhrayharris8
      @azhrayharris8 4 роки тому +2

      I get where you're coming from, but I disagree. There is no way I would ever buy a home with little or no yard and only a plot in a communal garden. I, and many others, want space for my children and pets to be able to run around and play. I don't want to be restricted to just one garden box. And I want to have my friends and family over on a warm summer evening. A yard is about more than just esthetics, it's about the kind of life one leads. Besides, a major reason why we have front lawns is because houses must be a certain distance from the road to allow for sidewalks, power lines, etc..

    • @AsiaMinor12
      @AsiaMinor12 3 роки тому +2

      @@azhrayharris8 no offense but kids rarely go out to play anymore. They aren't gonna go outside and throw a stick for 3 hours straight like if this was the 1950s. They are either going to go to the park where there are more kids playing, or they are gonna stay inside all day and play video games.

    • @behindyou666
      @behindyou666 2 роки тому

      @@azhrayharris8 At least design your suburbs better. You come there for community right? Then allow for buildings that do exactly that. A community is more than some random houses packed in an area. At least allow for schools and grocery shops in close proximity, in addition to small kiosks, then the most important places to go to will be aviable without having to drive every day. You want healthy kids right? Then have your area designed for them to walk, walking is really healthy for them. Allow for important cultural buildings, like cinemas, theatres, book clubs, libraries, etc. In addition to local barbers, pharmacies, suuply shops. I get it if you fear that this will allow for high rises, if you vote for height and size restrictions it will prevent it (Which I doubt will be hard when looking at the sheer amount of zoning that prefers single-family zoning). In addition to parks and recreational areas, which I guess you already have in your suburbs? This will all allow for a suburb with a even better community feeling as you socialize more in your local area, less car traffick (safer for your kids), more areas for you kids to hang around in, generally a more practical life (less time used on driving), better air pollution (less traffick), more local job opportunities healthier kids, etc.

    • @dudeman4184
      @dudeman4184 2 роки тому

      @@azhrayharris8 you can use a park for that lol.

  • @vit8250
    @vit8250 Рік тому +1

    Most people I know prefer to live in a single family home with a backyard. Nobody I know actually wants to live in a condo as their forever home. They buy a condo thinking they will rent it out after they get married and buy a single family home. I don’t think the American dream as changed at all. Obviously the cost of the dream will go up as the population increases. But that is life....

  • @feed5750
    @feed5750 4 роки тому +6

    The whole point of the free market is that no one can guess constantly changing people's needs and wants. So, this is all useless speculation.

    • @Dan16673
      @Dan16673 4 роки тому +2

      It's the job of entrepreneurs

    • @henrytep8884
      @henrytep8884 4 роки тому +1

      If you have all the data in the world, you can make an educated guess

    • @sangeetasharma5435
      @sangeetasharma5435 4 роки тому +1

      It's impossible to guess with socialised roads. Commuting being the deciding factor between sprawl and high density

    • @trent6319
      @trent6319 3 роки тому

      @@sangeetasharma5435 And either solution would get people homes and help against homelessness. Sprawl is bad for many reasons but better than a tent.

  • @joshthompson80
    @joshthompson80 2 роки тому +1

    A fairly dense downtown? Houston? What.... have you ever looked at their downtown?! Is not dense at all.
    Also, Houston has some of the worst traffic in the country....as does LA and Atlanta haha. Enjoy your 2hr commutes to those of you that like single family homes everywhere :)

  • @lseger62
    @lseger62 4 роки тому +5

    How come the over arching reason they want less sprawl is the "climate change" argument wasn't mentioned? Can't have darn polluting cars, which means we get less liberty and economic freedom (higher housing in/near urban areas).

    • @Jamcad01
      @Jamcad01 2 роки тому

      It's a stupid argument though because they're trying to ban gasoline cars anyway

  • @djsiii4737
    @djsiii4737 2 роки тому +1

    We could actually have our cake and eat it too. Any urban area could sprawl in regards to roads, infrastructure, etc., but landowners can have the right to build whatever they want; singles, 4-plexes, mixed use. Creating democratized road networks like Barcelona allows that free market use of land. Whether its govt or neighbourhood groups, if you let them get too much control or influence it will ruin the intent and sway the pendulum away from the free market permissions.

  • @rchrdsn
    @rchrdsn 4 роки тому +2

    all the few people that live in an apartment that i asked where they'd prefer to live in brazil if safety was not a concern said a house. even a guy who is quite rich and live in a great apartment in a great place said that. my guess is that if i asked thousands of people most of them would say a house. so all this concrete jungle that you see, for example, in são paulo, is not what people would like to have as housing. it's "just" that our economical, political, and psychological misery have been driving us into that miserable style of living. it makes sense for a young person who's still in college and/or just recently got employed but makes little money to want to or not mind living in an apartment, but it's a life phase.

  • @DaneNorman
    @DaneNorman 4 роки тому +1

    You couldn't pay me to live in a large city. My In-Laws live in Chicago proper and in the outlying suburbs of Chicago, its a disgusting wretched place. On the other side I have family that lives in LA and Sacramento. Disgusting and wretched places as well. Nope, give me a few acres...

  • @shrikedecil
    @shrikedecil 4 роки тому +5

    1) Demand buildings inside cities house as many people as work there.
    2) There is no need for a 2.
    Yes, I recognize the corporate skyscrapers will make the absolute smallest box they can get away with. *But that's both better than tents, and something singles will voluntarily do for a few years* But the mere *presence* of the minimum will allow "single family homes" to drop in price. Added shocker: Would "solve" global warming too without forcing people in 100 different ways.

    • @kronk358
      @kronk358 3 роки тому

      People that live in tents dont work in the city. They dont work at all.

  • @matthewboyd8689
    @matthewboyd8689 Рік тому +1

    Americans want to live in single family homes
    Americans also want to own Lamborghinis but making it illegal to own a Ford for that reason is just preposterous
    Wants and needs are different. Stop spoiling yourself with greed.

  • @jonathangrey2183
    @jonathangrey2183 4 роки тому +13

    Ultimately, housing quantity will solve the urban housing shortage, not housing location. Cities need to build, and build fast, and I don't think it matters exactly where. When demand even comes close to meeting supply, people will go where they want, not where they have to.

    • @BiscuitFever
      @BiscuitFever 3 роки тому

      I don’t think that. There’s more vacant apartments than homeless in NYC. Quantity isn’t the issue, inflation of our currencies and Chinese billionaires buying up every new house being put up are solvable issues.

    • @KRYMauL
      @KRYMauL 3 роки тому

      @@BiscuitFever It's not just Chinese billionaires, virtually every family in China buys land in order to secure there families wealth for when a state collapses. This isn't exactly a new practice. That said there may be more vacant apartments, but that doesn't mean that the homeless population will be able to afford them even if they could find a job as 60% are mentally ill. I think a better solution is one similar to community first where you house the people in communities.
      Link: mlf.org/community-first/
      The reason I believe this method would work is because it tends toward how we naturally congregate, i.e. at the center is the "castle" or city center and on the periphery we have "suburbs" or lower density zones.

    • @joshthompson80
      @joshthompson80 2 роки тому

      Yeah no. It does matter where....lol. top rule of real estate? Location, location, location.
      Access to work, reduced traffic, schools and leisure areas... these all influence buying. "Just build more" is such an uninformed opinion...

  • @DakkogiRauru23
    @DakkogiRauru23 3 роки тому +2

    More density everywhere

  • @repoilify
    @repoilify 3 роки тому +3

    Omg this guy needs to go. "The astetics of single family homes". The only two options are NOT single family homes and 10 story apartment complexes.

    • @mmtransport
      @mmtransport 3 роки тому +3

      Yep! Townhouses are a thing

  • @flamingcockroaches
    @flamingcockroaches 3 роки тому +1

    Houston is a terrible example to use. While they don't have official zoning laws, pretty much all aspects of zoning laws are baked into other regulations and these regulations are designed in a way to encourage sprawl and build a city where a car is required. Not to mention the fact that sprawl in Houston is what lead to their modern flooding problems. When they continuously built out they replaced prairies with housing developments. It turns out that the prairie grass is much better at soaking up flood water than sod lawns, leading to excess water having nowhere to go.
    Also sprawling single family developments on the edge of town are extremely expensive to build and maintain. The majority of the cost to build the infrastructure required for these developments comes from the state and federal governments, and then once it's built the city has to pay to maintain them. For the first 20 or so years the city brings in more tax revenue from the people living in these areas than it spends on maintaining them, but after the infrastructure starts falling apart and requiring more maintenance it suddenly becomes a black hole. The only way to get around this, without raising property taxes to ridiculously high levels, is to have constant growth in your city where the new developments are bringing in enough money to offset the costs of maintaining the old ones. This is a problem because it relies on the state and federal governments to foot the bill for new growth and it completely falls apart if your city stops growing.
    I'm not against sprawling single family homes, I just think that people shouldn't expect cheap single family housing with big yards and access to city amenities. To top it all off, current regulations in most US cities make it so this is the only type of affordable housing that you can legally build. I think that we should loosen up on current zoning restrictions and stop subsidizing the cost of building and maintaining suburbs, that way we can truly let the free market meet housing demands.

  • @sephikong8323
    @sephikong8323 3 роки тому +12

    A few arguments for what happens if you try to eternally increase sprawl to deal with housing shortage :
    1) Where will you go next ? The space isn't unlimited you know, at some point you'll start to encroach with the neighboring city or with farmland, how do you keep up once that happens ?
    2) If you keep building outwards, the people in the outer rings will have an exponentially longer time to drive to their workplace and you'll just worsen the traffic jams and at some point it becomes less and less viable to do so
    3) Sprawl is economically suicidal, the infrastructure expenses of the suburbs are comparable to Downtown but with the density (and thus tax payers) barely superior to the countryside. American cities are hemorrhaging money like crazy because of that and there's a TON of them that are either bankrupt, on the path of bankruptcy or are not in bankruptcy because the State legislature doesn't allow them to be.
    Solution ? Reduce the sprawl, stop acting like housing is supposed to be a Ponzi scheme and stop expanding constantly to "cover" the cost of the previous expansion. Then replace some of those single family homes with medium buildings to make them more efficient and denser (which is also a good step towards lessening the social isolation of a lot of places) ...... oh and severely loosen the zoning laws to allow local businesses to form, good for the local residents and good for the economy. And while you're at it, maybe make some public transit, it's actually proven to be useful at lessening traffic jams unlike building new lanes which is exactly the opposite, plus if people are not forced to have 2 cars for every family and use it constantly, their finances will improve and they would probably be more willing to buy more from local stores thus boosting the local economy. The American housing system needs a complete overhaul at this point because everything that was done for the last few decades was a mistake, but I trust in the American people to be able to reverse that if they set their mind to doing it, it would require some tough work but it would be beneficial for literally everyone involved (except probably car manufacturers and big store owners)

  • @pocki892
    @pocki892 3 роки тому +1

    Nimbys like Paul Koretz holding political office and hiding behind social justice just simply piss me off.

  • @julianfischer2341
    @julianfischer2341 3 роки тому +1

    UA-cam William Kay ecofascism. Interesting take.

  • @beasaroze5596
    @beasaroze5596 4 роки тому +12

    I DON'T want to live close together. I just want to be closer to employment so that all my time and money isn't consumed by commuting. It would be great to walk to work and keep money in my pocket.

  • @matthewboyd8689
    @matthewboyd8689 Рік тому +1

    I'll take a 5 over 1 in a city with good public transport and roads without cars so bikes can thrive..
    Please

  • @Loathomar
    @Loathomar 4 роки тому +3

    There is a clear question of if Houston's house cost is low because of a lack of regulations or if planning before growth meant Houston did not need housing regulations. The greater Houston's area reached 2 million people in ~2010 while places like LA reached that is the 1920s and NY in the 1880s. Houston's highway system looks the same as planned modern cities in China, where you effectively have a cobweb pattern around the city center. Mass trans in Houston's is very good, more "big government", the light rail system in Houston has over 5 times the ridership rate of LA per capita.
    Traffic is one of the biggest factors that cause things like housing regulations and Houston is just starting to meet some bad traffic. Without traffic and a good highway system, you can easily live 30 miles away from work and get there in 30 mins so living in suburbia is not a problem. But what if you double the population and which halve the traffic speed and makes suburbia go out to 45 miles. Now the commute is 90 mins each way, with a 9 hour work way that is 12 hours away from home per day, brutal.
    Once the city is there, the cost and pain of building new roads or expanding old ones because insane. Same is true for rail or subways.

    • @sangeetasharma5435
      @sangeetasharma5435 4 роки тому

      You are right. The most important factor in consumer preferences for sprawl or high density would be traffic. That's why as long as there is socialist control of roads, no one knows the answer.

    • @Jamcad01
      @Jamcad01 4 роки тому

      You're forgetting the fact that Houston's relaxed zoning would result in more businesses locating in the suburbs near where people live.

  • @elylioney6390
    @elylioney6390 2 роки тому +2

    This is so American

  • @robw1945
    @robw1945 4 роки тому +6

    The thing is if people grow out instead of up it doesn't increase the tax base of the city, or in some cases even the county. Cities don't want that. They want the money.

  • @birdiewolf3497
    @birdiewolf3497 2 роки тому +1

    Ruin the aesthetics? First you don't want to house people because of aesthetics? Secondly suburbs are ugly anyway.

  • @Tracks777
    @Tracks777 4 роки тому +4

    nice video

  • @brandonmcgowan4897
    @brandonmcgowan4897 4 роки тому +1

    there is no housing crisis; just too many people who think they are too good to live outside the city they want. Boo hoo you can't afford to live in San Francisco, go to carbondale, IL there is appts for 200$ a month

  • @0fficerIan
    @0fficerIan 3 роки тому +10

    What's the obsession with keeping single family home neighborhoods exclusively single family? The most beautiful, liveable, and desirable neighborhoods are all mixed zoning.

    • @urbanistgod
      @urbanistgod 2 роки тому

      That’s your opinion. I disagree. Single family homes represent perfection and housing at a human scale aesthetically.

    • @0fficerIan
      @0fficerIan 2 роки тому +3

      @@urbanistgod I'm not talking about lining every street with skyscraping apartments. I'm talking about mixed use areas. A few single family homes here, a quiet Cafe in between under a canopy of trees with an apartment on the second floor there, and streets designed for bikes and foot traffic instead of streets designed for cars. That aesthetic you're talking about is better achieved by mixed zoning than suburban single use zoning.
      Watch some videos from the channel "Not Just bikes" and tell me if you change your mind. Specifically his zoning and stroads videos.

    • @urbanistgod
      @urbanistgod 2 роки тому +1

      @@0fficerIan Funny cuz a lot of times when I discuss this subject on UA-cam people recommend me watching this channel. This guy is basically sharing his opinions, his personal preferences, doing cherry picking, only talking about the disadvantages of suburbs. He never talks about the disadvantages of high urban density. You guys are really brainwashed by this channel.

    • @0fficerIan
      @0fficerIan 2 роки тому +3

      @@urbanistgod Why do you assume the only two options are suburbs or high density?
      I live in a rural American town. My neighborhood has a fantastic little grocery story and restaurant in between houses. I can also walk a short distance for anything else.
      Mixed use is always better than strictly suburbs.
      Why would you want it to be practically impossible to get anywhere without a car? It's not like giant ugly streets are adding to the beauty either.

    • @urbanistgod
      @urbanistgod 2 роки тому

      @@0fficerIan We need walkable low density neighborhoods made of single family homes like Ville Mont-Royal in Canada (Mout-Royal city in English). High density is literally imperfection in terms of urbanism. People need space.