I am genuinely impressed by the amount of innovation pumping out of China these few years. From DJI to Zeapon, I am wondering what they will create next. Exciting time to be alive!
Hey hey again Jason! Definitely exciting with all the tech we have for video! I am just praying for DJI to make a non-gimbal version of their Ronin 4d as well as mainstream their LiDar Follow Focus as a stand alone product!
Completely agree. No smartphone app should be necessary! And as you point out, it needs to integrate seamlessly with their pan-tilt head. Manually slide *and* tilt the camera, click one button to select point A. Manually slide and tilt the camera, click one button to set a B point. If Zeapon provides a slider with that level of slide, pan, tilt, integration, (and with no smartphone app needed) will absolutely buy one. And another great review.
Hey hey again Michael! Definitely no smartphone necessary, I'd say its only necessary if you have more than two waypoints which I feel most people only really need A and B. Thanks as always for stopping by!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Yes, two waypoints is perfect. But it has to set the pan-tilt module as well, without having to press separate buttons on the pan-tilt or use a smartphone app. If Zeapon can deliver that functionality, will buy one immediately.
@@SinhVTruong They have, but prices start $7,000 to $10,000 from firms like Kessler. Zeapon is a software update away from matching that functionality, but they're not providing it.
Hey hey RewDowns! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Ain't nobody got time for no apps in the field! Definitely would love to see them employment that idea. A-B points are more or less 95% of what people need anyways. No need for an app to do those simple 3-axis moves. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Awesome review as always. looking to upgrade from my micro 2 E800. Which length do you have there? also, which manfrotto tripod are you using to support the weight? Edit: nevermind. found the answer in one of the comments below. thanks!
Hey hey shmurt11! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Glad you found the answer, hope this review was helpful! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
I hate that everything wants to use my phone to control it. I much prefer to use my phone with the monitor+ app and use physical controls on a slider. On the iFootage nano slider, once you play the A/B points it stops, not sure why Zeapon doesn't have that set by default and use looping instead.
I think one of the newer motor firmware updates now lets you activate a loop without having to go into the app. I can't remember the button combination at the moment.
I like your setup with the supports locked to the tripod column! Which Manfrotto tripod is that? Would it be sturdy enough with this setup if the center column was not touching the ground?
Hey hey Nicholas! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! The good thing is this Zeapon kit comes with those supports! The Tripod I have is an older model called the 055xproB. When you are low to the ground you will want your tripod legs as far as possible for the 1000mm length slider. This is because if you get to the far ends you may risk tipping the tripod depending on if you are using the tilt on your video head. If you are just doing straight slides, its not a problem pending on how heavy your set up it. With these long slide single tripods setups, in the future i'll probably want to bring a sandbag to weigh down the tripod if I am doing a low shot. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey again Steven! Definitely a great update! I think they are pretty much done on the slider front as far as useful innovation. They have heard my feedback on different types of motor modules, so hopefully we will see how they are able to try and impliment a smartphone-less setup and brushless motors for ultra silent interviews.
Hey hey Jules! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Haha you're right! Essentially the Rhino, but with Zeapon's (Edelkrone's) Extend slide feature still there for dolly forward shots and smaller footprint when taking it onto set. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
I regret my Zeapon micro 2. I haven’t been able to use the app in a over 6 months and can’t firmware m update the slider. I’m happy they’ve made an upgrade but I’m gonna move to edelkrone as soon as I can dump this thing.
Hey hey Wilson! I'm sorry to hear that the Micro 2 hasn't worked as it should for you :( It's odd that the firmware on the slider won't update. I think we talked before, you are using an Android Phone or iphone? It seems that Android version of the app has always been weird, may depend from phone to phone. The Iphones have been fine. If you're able to borrow someones iphone, I believe the newer versions of the app are able to update the motor firmware through the phone instead of having to connect it to the computer. But I get it, hopefully you are able to sell the Micro 2 to someone that just needs a manual slider and move over to the edelkrone system. Some others to consider are Rhino and Syrp.
Hey hey PaulAbayAbay! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! It's only worth the upgrade if you find yourself moving between Motor and Manual push frequently. While the Micro 2 Plus was better at swapping the motor, it is definitely not as streamlined as the new Micro 3. Otherwise if you are only using motor or manual mostly with your Micro 2 plus, there probably isn't too much of a reason to upgrade at this time. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Usually when filming interviews, you are standing right next to the camera anyways hence you're able to use manually without a motor. This is almost the perfect slider.
That is true. Depends on if you plan to do a two camera interview and let the slider run. Though with so many great AI Dialogue isolation tools these days, I'm not really worried about motor noises as I once was.
이봐 이봐 WER LISM 이번 영상도 봐주시고 댓글 달아주셔서 정말 감사합니다! 귀를 사용할 때 모터 소음이 확실히 큽니다. 마이크의 위치에 따라 카메라가 마이크를 너무 많이 잡아내지 않아야 합니다. 들러 주셔서 다시 한 번 감사드립니다! 안전하고 건강하게 지내고 다음 시간에 만나요!
do you consider it better than ifootage shark slider nano? i am abit concerned about nanos distance coverage, deciding between this and nano and would love to hear you guys thoughts
The Nano is great in that its very fast to program your AB points with the pan. The bad of the Nano is how heavy of a camera you can use on it. If you randomly change a lens or zoom in on a lens making the camera front heavy. You may need to recalibrate the Nano so that it glides smoothly. While the Zeapon takes a little bit longer to setup AB points, it does not care if your camera is off balance when mounted. Its pure motors will move the carriage no matter what versus the Nano's Brushless motors.
Hey hey again Shaheed! Thanks! As I am trying out this new format for the channel I am now focusing on key selling points of a product instead of listing every possible thing a product has. Mainly I am doing this because the UA-cam algo really hates my old format when viewers drop off after the TLDR section or skip around. For the time being I will use B-roll shots to show what things are there, but I may not verbally mention it to keep things moving. Hope this makes sense as I continue to craft the new channel format! As always, I appreciate you poppin by in the comments!
@@TLDR_filmmaker The mechanical design concepts of so many commercial sliders are more travel friendly, as they go twice the package length. Since I build my own and use it happily at home I didn't want to buy one. But now I'm thinking of buying one and replace the electronics :)
Hey hey RAFOGRAPH! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! The extra support legs are included! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Alexander! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! If you mean if you can dial the speed of the ramp up and down, no you cannot. The ramping is automatic depending on what your 3 speed setting you're on. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Guillermo! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Yes, you can buy the slider without the motor. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Adam! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! For the vertical shot I was using the Manfrotto 502 head: geni.us/cZwL8u (affiliate link) Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey again Fun Film! Haha if only every company would take our old tech for credits. Not sure if that would be a good thing for a company or not. I guess it depends. Best bet is to try and sell it locally to a filmmaker who's been looking for a slider. The 1st Gen slider is still a lovely slider for any slider-less filmmaker.
Hey hey Mossie! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Hmm, Ive never heard of people using the term "scenes" for waypoints. Is there a reasons that I'm not aware of for these calculated stopping points? Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker I think it's a term used in either the Arc or Edelkrone where you could go to any of your way points just by selecting the thumbnail on your app ABC....etc etc in any order
I am genuinely impressed by the amount of innovation pumping out of China these few years. From DJI to Zeapon, I am wondering what they will create next. Exciting time to be alive!
Hey hey again Jason!
Definitely exciting with all the tech we have for video! I am just praying for DJI to make a non-gimbal version of their Ronin 4d as well as mainstream their LiDar Follow Focus as a stand alone product!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Agree! I have been eyeing DJI products too. Rumour has it they will release the Pocket 3 this month.
Completely agree. No smartphone app should be necessary! And as you point out, it needs to integrate seamlessly with their pan-tilt head. Manually slide *and* tilt the camera, click one button to select point A. Manually slide and tilt the camera, click one button to set a B point.
If Zeapon provides a slider with that level of slide, pan, tilt, integration, (and with no smartphone app needed) will absolutely buy one.
And another great review.
Hey hey again Michael!
Definitely no smartphone necessary, I'd say its only necessary if you have more than two waypoints which I feel most people only really need A and B. Thanks as always for stopping by!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Yes, two waypoints is perfect. But it has to set the pan-tilt module as well, without having to press separate buttons on the pan-tilt or use a smartphone app. If Zeapon can deliver that functionality, will buy one immediately.
Completely agree. I have thought of this for years… not sure why nobody has done it yet.
@@SinhVTruong They have, but prices start $7,000 to $10,000 from firms like Kessler. Zeapon is a software update away from matching that functionality, but they're not providing it.
Good call on the improvement ideas, nobody wants to use an app in the field!
Hey hey RewDowns!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
Ain't nobody got time for no apps in the field! Definitely would love to see them employment that idea. A-B points are more or less 95% of what people need anyways. No need for an app to do those simple 3-axis moves.
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Awesome review as always. looking to upgrade from my micro 2 E800. Which length do you have there? also, which manfrotto tripod are you using to support the weight?
Edit:
nevermind. found the answer in one of the comments below. thanks!
Hey hey shmurt11!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
Glad you found the answer, hope this review was helpful!
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
I hate that everything wants to use my phone to control it. I much prefer to use my phone with the monitor+ app and use physical controls on a slider. On the iFootage nano slider, once you play the A/B points it stops, not sure why Zeapon doesn't have that set by default and use looping instead.
I think one of the newer motor firmware updates now lets you activate a loop without having to go into the app. I can't remember the button combination at the moment.
not impressive for outdoor footage if the subjects are ...blah blah blah
Unfortunately that day there was an entire group of art students in the castle that didn't want me to film them. Woulda been much more epic.
I like your setup with the supports locked to the tripod column! Which Manfrotto tripod is that? Would it be sturdy enough with this setup if the center column was not touching the ground?
Hey hey Nicholas!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
The good thing is this Zeapon kit comes with those supports! The Tripod I have is an older model called the 055xproB. When you are low to the ground you will want your tripod legs as far as possible for the 1000mm length slider. This is because if you get to the far ends you may risk tipping the tripod depending on if you are using the tilt on your video head. If you are just doing straight slides, its not a problem pending on how heavy your set up it.
With these long slide single tripods setups, in the future i'll probably want to bring a sandbag to weigh down the tripod if I am doing a low shot.
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Great update for the Zeapon! And cool ideas and feedback!
Hey hey again Steven!
Definitely a great update! I think they are pretty much done on the slider front as far as useful innovation. They have heard my feedback on different types of motor modules, so hopefully we will see how they are able to try and impliment a smartphone-less setup and brushless motors for ultra silent interviews.
You want your Zeapon to be a Rhino 😅
Hey hey Jules!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
Haha you're right! Essentially the Rhino, but with Zeapon's (Edelkrone's) Extend slide feature still there for dolly forward shots and smaller footprint when taking it onto set.
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
I regret my Zeapon micro 2. I haven’t been able to use the app in a over 6 months and can’t firmware m update the slider. I’m happy they’ve made an upgrade but I’m gonna move to edelkrone as soon as I can dump this thing.
Hey hey Wilson!
I'm sorry to hear that the Micro 2 hasn't worked as it should for you :(
It's odd that the firmware on the slider won't update. I think we talked before, you are using an Android Phone or iphone? It seems that Android version of the app has always been weird, may depend from phone to phone. The Iphones have been fine. If you're able to borrow someones iphone, I believe the newer versions of the app are able to update the motor firmware through the phone instead of having to connect it to the computer. But I get it, hopefully you are able to sell the Micro 2 to someone that just needs a manual slider and move over to the edelkrone system. Some others to consider are Rhino and Syrp.
Is it worth the upgrade from or getting the Micro 2 Plus? Didn’t hear much comparison to that version.
Hey hey PaulAbayAbay!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
It's only worth the upgrade if you find yourself moving between Motor and Manual push frequently. While the Micro 2 Plus was better at swapping the motor, it is definitely not as streamlined as the new Micro 3. Otherwise if you are only using motor or manual mostly with your Micro 2 plus, there probably isn't too much of a reason to upgrade at this time.
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Awesome Review!! Love it!! Keep up the good work!! This will be my next slider!!
Hey hey again English for Kids!
Thanks for always stopping by! Happy New Year!
And add a follow focus module!
For real, they've been teasing that thing for 3 years now and its still not out while they keep making new versions of the slider...
Usually when filming interviews, you are standing right next to the camera anyways hence you're able to use manually without a motor. This is almost the perfect slider.
That is true. Depends on if you plan to do a two camera interview and let the slider run. Though with so many great AI Dialogue isolation tools these days, I'm not really worried about motor noises as I once was.
이거 사용중인데 모터 소음 훨씬 시끄러움 ㅋㅋ
이봐 이봐 WER LISM
이번 영상도 봐주시고 댓글 달아주셔서 정말 감사합니다!
귀를 사용할 때 모터 소음이 확실히 큽니다. 마이크의 위치에 따라 카메라가 마이크를 너무 많이 잡아내지 않아야 합니다.
들러 주셔서 다시 한 번 감사드립니다! 안전하고 건강하게 지내고 다음 시간에 만나요!
do you consider it better than ifootage shark slider nano? i am abit concerned about nanos distance coverage, deciding between this and nano and would love to hear you guys thoughts
The Nano is great in that its very fast to program your AB points with the pan. The bad of the Nano is how heavy of a camera you can use on it. If you randomly change a lens or zoom in on a lens making the camera front heavy. You may need to recalibrate the Nano so that it glides smoothly. While the Zeapon takes a little bit longer to setup AB points, it does not care if your camera is off balance when mounted. Its pure motors will move the carriage no matter what versus the Nano's Brushless motors.
Good review. You didn't mention the stabilizer arms though.
Hey hey again Shaheed!
Thanks! As I am trying out this new format for the channel I am now focusing on key selling points of a product instead of listing every possible thing a product has. Mainly I am doing this because the UA-cam algo really hates my old format when viewers drop off after the TLDR section or skip around. For the time being I will use B-roll shots to show what things are there, but I may not verbally mention it to keep things moving. Hope this makes sense as I continue to craft the new channel format! As always, I appreciate you poppin by in the comments!
Commercial Sliders getting better :)
If I can build a teach-in system that syncs slider and gimbal via bluetooth, a company could do that as well ;)
Hey hey again Smartintech!
The companies for sure should be able to do it, you've proven it can be done :)
@@TLDR_filmmaker The mechanical design concepts of so many commercial sliders are more travel friendly, as they go twice the package length.
Since I build my own and use it happily at home I didn't want to buy one.
But now I'm thinking of buying one and replace the electronics :)
Thank you very much for this review. The extra "legs" showed in 2:06 are included or need to be bought separately? Thank you again
Hey hey RAFOGRAPH!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
The extra support legs are included!
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker may I thank you man. Subbed and ready for the next ones. Keep going 🤙🏽
Thanks for the review. Can I dial fade in and outs?
Hey hey Alexander!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
If you mean if you can dial the speed of the ramp up and down, no you cannot. The ramping is automatic depending on what your 3 speed setting you're on.
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Can you buy the slider without the motor?
Hey hey Guillermo!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
Yes, you can buy the slider without the motor.
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey man. Great video. Can I ask what head you are using for the vertical shots.
Hey hey Adam!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
For the vertical shot I was using the Manfrotto 502 head: geni.us/cZwL8u (affiliate link)
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Thanks man. Appreciate the reply!
Thank you for the sound test.
You're most welcome!
If Zeapon listens to you, please tell them to let me trade in my Version 1 series for some credit on the new one. 😁
Hey hey again Fun Film!
Haha if only every company would take our old tech for credits. Not sure if that would be a good thing for a company or not. I guess it depends. Best bet is to try and sell it locally to a filmmaker who's been looking for a slider. The 1st Gen slider is still a lovely slider for any slider-less filmmaker.
@@TLDR_filmmaker Yeah if only 😊 It worked very well for a starter but this new one really sets the bar higher and almost perfect for any situation.
For those of us that do use the app I'd like to see waypoints changed to scenes
Hey hey Mossie!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
Hmm, Ive never heard of people using the term "scenes" for waypoints. Is there a reasons that I'm not aware of for these calculated stopping points?
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker I think it's a term used in either the Arc or Edelkrone where you could go to any of your way points just by selecting the thumbnail on your app ABC....etc etc in any order