I own a copy of this watch for a few weeks now and I can assure you that there’s nothing wrong with it. It reached over 112 hours of power reserve in my first test. The watch was on one side (crown up) in a case. It’s accuracy is excellent about 17 seconds ahead in one week. When examining the watch you wil note that the crown has some play between rotating clockwise and anti clockwise. When adjusting the hands clockwise to the correct time, and then rotate it back just a fraction, it will not jump. I have no problems to adjust it within one second synchronized using my phone. It’s a design choice to keep the crown a bit loose to avoid malfunction and keep it Waterproof. Also the bezel action is excellent, a firm click and good to adjust. My opinion is that some people blame the watch of malfunctioning without actually proving it. They simply bought the watch in a reflex, started doubting and then blame the watch to be defective and bought a totally different watch.
Hi René, First of all congrats to the purchase, the aquis is a cool watch and I like the overall improvements. I am not brand bashing here and I think in terms of power reserve I make it clear that this everytime is hard to judge. Under my German video I got couple of comments that the jump of the minute hand is not liked by owners. But no one of them did report issues with the power reserve or accuracy. I think this movement has potential. If the minute hand jumps this is though one thing which I just don’t like. I found out that also the AP15400 shows same behaviour. And also some movements from JLC. So it’s not a new thing, alright, but than please include it in the description so that you know what to consider when adjusting the time and you’re not a watch guy. Again thanks a lot for your feedback, as I said in the beginning, the watch itself is a beauty and I like all its improvements including the quick exchange bracelet, the bigger date and the colours look amazing. Wear it in good health.
Thanks, it’s a beautiful watch with a lot of presence. You are right that the jump of the minute hand when adjusting it, looks a bit strange, especially for a watch with this price. There is another video from someone who thinks the Aquis in general (not this caliber) is overrated. It’s a somewhat chaotic video from someone how claims the bezel isn’t aligned correctly, the bezel would stuck and the crown wouldn’t be alright. None of these issues are actually proven by that video.
I have two comments about the watch. The bracelet is excellent and it fits nice on my small (16,5cm) wrist. It’s a pity that the micro adjustment can not be adjusted without a tool (wooden toothpick). Second it’s missed opportunity that Oris doesn’t mention how many windings it takes to wind the watch completely. If you look carefully at the back of the watch while winding, you notice that both barrels are rotating. But they still do after 100 windings. So I am a bit confused how to discover if the watch is fully winded. It also says nothing about its performance in real life, but at least you could check if the watch is fine or not. The Oris boutique in Amsterdam didn’t answer that part of my question.
That’s every time tricky to find out with those watches. A power reserve indicator would have been nice but as it is an automatic movement I think it’s alright. In regards of the other video: I did own the oris staghorn and it was flawless, even the day indicator did show a slight sunburst effect of the dial. So I habe just good experiences with oris.
@@mb-watches buying a new caliber is a bit tricky. But Oris gives 10 years service interval and warranty, that gaved me enough confidence. As soon I discover something new I will let you know. But first I want to wear it!
Thanks for letting me use your footage and for your input my friend, really appreciate it. Also thanks so much for sharing your experience with the movement.
Hello. My new Oris Aquis 400 has stopped (frozen) twice since purchasing 2 months ago. On both occasions I have been wearing it for two days approx and then I noticed it just froze. The last time it happened I wound it manually about 80 times before putting it on the wore it for two days and it froze up on me. Is it faulty?
Well it depends on how you wear it or active you are. For example: you get up, go to work and sit all day at your desk without moving a lot. Well, than it’s hard for the watch to wind. But you have about 9 years of warranty on this watch, use it and give it to the dealer or oris.
Hello Marc , I have the same issue : my recent Acquis400 , despite on the wrist , sometimes stops after 2 days 😵💫Thinking sending it back for expertise ... but thinking it could be a conception issue , poor auto-rewind capacities . Do you have further explanations ?
Purchased mine a month ago. No problems with it! While I have other watches, the Oris Aquis was the first watch that I ever wanted, so I finally got one and I'm happy that I waited for the calibre 400. I wonder if I just got lucky or they corrected the problem.
Thanks for your feedback, I as well checked a couple of cal 400 out. Even if it does occur it’s ok with the live hack. What I disliked a bit was the way of communication. Other brands like JlC and AP have similar behaviours in their movements too.
I think it just shows how difficult it is to develop a new movement from scratch and to resolve all issues. Having a 1st party movement feels more exclusive but it doesn't automatically mean better performance or smoother operation. Even the big names can struggle to get it right. Companies are sometimes criticized if they use a 3rd party movement and ask 3 grand for the watch. Here's a watch that costs 3 grand and exhibits these quirks. In the end, what's better for the customer? Wouldn't you expect it to be flawless for the money?
Hello there! Great video! First of all you are not picky at all, more when we are talking of a watch at this price point.. Maybe would accept some errors on a watch that costs 300€, but 10 times the price is unacceptable. I owe the oris aquis clean ocean 400 and I have the same issues. Both of them, minutes hand jumps when set the time and also the power reserve. Unless I wound it well doesn't hold more than 48 hours... If manually wound the watch it holds a decent power reserve but don't arrive at the 120 hours advertised. Really disspointed. I emailed Oris today and in my opinion I gave the watch a decent wear and I tried to know it better see if there is any fix. So I am waiting for their response and hopefully there will be a solution. I will gladly return it and get the Tudor pelagos for the same amount. Cheers!
Crossing my fingers that there’s a solution for you buddy, the Tudor pelagos is a really underestimated watch, could be an interesting solution. Feel free to leave an update here, would like to know how everything’s turning out in the end. Cheers 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I bought this watch Saturday, Nov 21, 2020. I am over the moon with this watch. I think it is my first diver I am 65 years old was into watches when there were no quartz watches. I saw the review before I bought this watch. But I was willing to live with this issue if need be. But the watch I have doesn't have the jumping hand issue. I think the pluses outweigh the minuses.
Hi Robert, thank you so much for your feedback about your watch. I am happy it Doesn’t has a jumping minute hand🙏🏻🙏🏻 The aquis is a beautiful and well made watch, it ever was, congrats. Under my German videos 2 Owners did comment who could confirm the issue , but as well did confirm that the hack does the trick. One is happy with the watch the other will give it back. To me it is interesting to see that there also movements where it doesn’t happen. Wear your aquis in good health, cheers mate 🙏🏻🙏🏻
I do receive under the German version of the video also feedback that some don’t have the issue, let’s see what oris is coming up with, the movement has potential itself, I hope they can make an update
@@mb-watches I feel the Tudor 70 hour movement has more potential than this one. The one used in the new black bay 58. It's smaller and slimmer. Only if they added a date function to it.
Really good point about the average buyer getting this as their first watch/first luxury piece, this is a watch that could very easily entice an early collector for its good value & in-house movement but they might get caught off guard with these "quirks." Hopefully, though this is just a symptom of it being a brand new movement & they roll out improvements to engineer out these issues as well as fixing/replacing the models purchased by early adopters - because the movement shows a lot of potential but a lot will hang on how Oris handles this as to whether this ends up a success or a step back.
Thanks bro, yes, I think too that the movement itself shows a lot of potential. Plus, I just like the Aquis and the Watch itself looks stunning. I think If Oris would have given direkt and upfront information this would just have been better, let’s see how they address this topic in the future or whether they will/can improve the behaviour of the jumping minute hand.
I have the Oris Kermit. the -2 movement update. The watch still has the jumping hand and this probably won't go away soon in my opinion. As for the power reserve, I can confirm the 3.5 days at perfect time, I am gaining +1 to +3 seconds per day when it's fully wound (210 turns per the guide). After those 3.5 days the watch still keeps time fine but the second hand loses 15 or more seconds per day if you don't keep winding. I'd consider those last 1.5 days to be similar to the red area on the bottom of your gasoline gauge, the one telling you that if you don't get gas soon you'll run out and get stuck on the road. All in all the watch is great but there are definitely quirks to this movement.
I am not really a big fan of the powematic movement as the higher power reserve reduced the beats per hour. Also keep in mind that the movement keeps very accurate the time, which also was confirmed by engineer wannabe. If this is how the movement works I just would have liked to get an upfront information as this is a behaviour which one doesn’t find with other movements.
You still can, I was just surprised about the way of communication from Oris in the beginning, with the mentioned life hack it is working and Oris updated rheir manual. Maybe you can try it out by yourself and see wether it is an issue for you
It makes me laugh that Oris are running from channel to channel getting reviewers to say that there is nothing wrong with the movement. Well there is . Any movement that needs twiddling around with to simply set the time accurately is badly designed and should have been sorted before being released. And who want extended power reserve when to get it means winding the watch 200 times. You will end up with repetitive strain injury but hey you can always use them.
At least the 10year warranty should cover any repairs those year 😁 Let’s see what they do or whether they are going to do anything. Fact is that also the AP15400 movement shows a similar behaviour, so it’s happening also with other brands
@@mb-watches its not always work Thank you for the movie and the reply I really like Oris' watches, I have 14 and I was really offended by the answer of oris. You yourself have set up a watch that works on the same principle, and it does not happen.If it's part of the mechanism, it's something special, had to attach an explanation to the instructions of the watch. Hopefully they will find a solution to the problem, I waited for it for so long.
I just got home with my brand new Oris Aquis GMT, purchased today from an authorized Oris dealer, only to find the second hand stops running every other minute. A great looking watch, however it can only display the correct time reliably once a day (due to the GMT hand). It's going back first thing in the morning. Very sad Oris quality control is so bad.
Sad to hear it, in Europe the feedback is quite positive and I also couldn’t complain about my staghorn, was a great watch, thanks for sharing your experience here 🙏🏻
Thanks buddy, let’s see how oris is going to react, the movement itself still is promising, would be good if they could improve it. If not: the regula selita Aquis is alright and grey market about half the price 😁
The jumping hand phenomenon is a lot more common than people think, particularly with large power reserves, and some Richemont group movements have the same characteristic including JLC & B&M. Check out the same on a B&M at 45 seconds on this video: ua-cam.com/video/P8Mam-Utb-k/v-deo.html The way around it has always been the same - go past the time and wind back to take up the slack. If Oris do change the movement (personally I don’t think they need to), I wonder if these early “Jumping Jack” hand models will become future collectibles!
Thanks for your feedback Mark. Yes, the 15400 from AP shows a similar behaviour, I just think that if Oris knows about - what they should and I am pretty sure they do - they just should have put it into the instruction. With the 15500 AP did show that they could solve the jumping, so maybe there is a way for Oris too , if not I would appreciate a clear communication. The work around there is how i usually adjust the time so yes, you can adjust it correctly if you know
My hand jumps a little too - despite my assertions above it wouldn't, haha! Anyway I have found a couple of things to note. It doesn't jump all the time, and it seems to depend on HOW I set the time. By that I mean pressure applied. I stood in my kitchen 20 minutes playing with the crown before I even wore the watch and found if I used a fair amount of force in releasing the crown or pushing it back in, it jumped fairly often but not always. If I was gentle in both respects - no jumping at all. It may annoy some people, but tbh it doesn't actually bother me. When I consider the number of times I'll be setting the time on my watch its not often enough that it'll bug me. I'm as happy with the watch regardless :)
A regular selita doesn’t sport 5 days is power reserves though. This issue can occur on movements which sport a higher power reserve. The AP15400 seem to show a similar behaviour. But I’d the selita is good enough it’s alright and you could get the regular Aquis with that one
Both the flaws, as well as Oris reaction and "fixes" are unacceptable in a watch of that price... I'd expect stuff like that in a $150 Pagani... I'd be pissed if it happened in a watch over about $300....
There are 2 things that make this problem seem worse....1) Not all watches have it. Some have the issue some don't. So when Oris gives a technical explaination that it's due to the double barrel and the need to synchronise, it doesn't cut it. I mean if that's the reason then all watches should have the problem as all have double barrel (watches with new movement). The other point is on one hand Oris is saying it's expected due to the barrel design and then can't explain why all watches don't have the issue. I mean when Oris goes online to explain how watches should be adjusted it just goes against everything people have been doing all these years. A user shouldn't have to go through the skullduggery just because he is getting a 5 day power reserve. They need to sort it out. Period.
Thanks buddy, I am with you there and think they should be able figuring something out. Let’s see what they’re going to do, the movement itself has potential. The AP15400 movement shows similar behaviour and as well not all of them though.
In my opinion, the minute hand quirk is unacceptable. A much inexpensive Seiko 5 do not have this issue why would a $3K watch be ok? This issue make setting time precisely to the minute impossible. I won’t buy it till Oris fix it.
Well, with the hack described in the video It now is possible to at least set the time and it seem to work. The price though isn’t just for the movement but also for the watch and the aquis, especially the one with the bee movement inside does look and feels pretty good. That Said, I still would prefer the minute hand not to jump when pulling the crown, under the German version of this video I did find though a comment which stated that some JLC movements have the same behaviour.
@@mb-watches Surprised to learn that some JLC movts have same behaviour. I currently own 4 JLC and glad none has this issue. Would be keen to know which movt it is.
Unless it’s the black bay gmt and you have to go without it for a couple of months whilst it went back to the factory to have problems with the date wheel fixed (sometimes on more than one occasion), or the aluminium crown tube corroded (common problem on the black bay). I’ve had a Pelagos and 2 black bays and all three had gritty crown tubes.
@@bettycooper9644 that’s pretty unfortunate for your Tudors, I’ve got three, all new, and the crown winds smooth as butter! Not sure about your crown tube, aluminium should not corrode? By the way, I don’t work for Tudor...😁😆
Well also the gmt Master had the same issue in the beginning but this is and can be fixed. And the regular BB didn’t had hick ups so far. Same chance for Oris, those things can happen and as mentioned also the AP15400 movement shows the same behaviour as the Oris calibre 400
That issue is a turn off! 💯 My Mido Ocean Star doesn't do that at all. This Mido is solid in every aspect and he gives the time with a chronograph attitude. Caliber 80, 80 hours of power reserve made by Swatch Group.👌🏼
I can understand that. But I have to give oris a bit credit too to release a new movement. I hope they can improve the issues, until than you have got also a big variety of aquis and other models with regular selita ones.
I own a copy of this watch for a few weeks now and I can assure you that there’s nothing wrong with it. It reached over 112 hours of power reserve in my first test. The watch was on one side (crown up) in a case. It’s accuracy is excellent about 17 seconds ahead in one week. When examining the watch you wil note that the crown has some play between rotating clockwise and anti clockwise. When adjusting the hands clockwise to the correct time, and then rotate it back just a fraction, it will not jump. I have no problems to adjust it within one second synchronized using my phone. It’s a design choice to keep the crown a bit loose to avoid malfunction and keep it Waterproof. Also the bezel action is excellent, a firm click and good to adjust. My opinion is that some people blame the watch of malfunctioning without actually proving it. They simply bought the watch in a reflex, started doubting and then blame the watch to be defective and bought a totally different watch.
Hi René, First of all congrats to the purchase, the aquis is a cool watch and I like the overall improvements.
I am not brand bashing here and I think in terms of power reserve I make it clear that this everytime is hard to judge.
Under my German video I got couple of comments that the jump of the minute hand is not liked by owners. But no one of them did report issues with the power reserve or accuracy.
I think this movement has potential. If the minute hand jumps this is though one thing which I just don’t like. I found out that also the AP15400 shows same behaviour. And also some movements from JLC.
So it’s not a new thing, alright, but than please include it in the description so that you know what to consider when adjusting the time and you’re not a watch guy.
Again thanks a lot for your feedback, as I said in the beginning, the watch itself is a beauty and I like all its improvements including the quick exchange bracelet, the bigger date and the colours look amazing. Wear it in good health.
Thanks, it’s a beautiful watch with a lot of presence. You are right that the jump of the minute hand when adjusting it, looks a bit strange, especially for a watch with this price. There is another video from someone who thinks the Aquis in general (not this caliber) is overrated. It’s a somewhat chaotic video from someone how claims the bezel isn’t aligned correctly, the bezel would stuck and the crown wouldn’t be alright. None of these issues are actually proven by that video.
I have two comments about the watch. The bracelet is excellent and it fits nice on my small (16,5cm) wrist. It’s a pity that the micro adjustment can not be adjusted without a tool (wooden toothpick). Second it’s missed opportunity that Oris doesn’t mention how many windings it takes to wind the watch completely. If you look carefully at the back of the watch while winding, you notice that both barrels are rotating. But they still do after 100 windings. So I am a bit confused how to discover if the watch is fully winded. It also says nothing about its performance in real life, but at least you could check if the watch is fine or not. The Oris boutique in Amsterdam didn’t answer that part of my question.
That’s every time tricky to find out with those watches. A power reserve indicator would have been nice but as it is an automatic movement I think it’s alright.
In regards of the other video: I did own the oris staghorn and it was flawless, even the day indicator did show a slight sunburst effect of the dial.
So I habe just good experiences with oris.
@@mb-watches buying a new caliber is a bit tricky. But Oris gives 10 years service interval and warranty, that gaved me enough confidence. As soon I discover something new I will let you know. But first I want to wear it!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and for the shoutout Mr B!
What happened with Oris after the video
Thanks for letting me use your footage and for your input my friend, really appreciate it.
Also thanks so much for sharing your experience with the movement.
What happened with Oris afterwards?
Hello. My new Oris Aquis 400 has stopped (frozen) twice since purchasing 2 months ago. On both occasions I have been wearing it for two days approx and then I noticed it just froze. The last time it happened I wound it manually about 80 times before putting it on the wore it for two days and it froze up on me. Is it faulty?
Well it depends on how you wear it or active you are. For example: you get up, go to work and sit all day at your desk without moving a lot. Well, than it’s hard for the watch to wind. But you have about 9 years of warranty on this watch, use it and give it to the dealer or oris.
Hello Marc , I have the same issue : my recent Acquis400 , despite on the wrist , sometimes stops after 2 days 😵💫Thinking sending it back for expertise ... but thinking it could be a conception issue , poor auto-rewind capacities . Do you have further explanations ?
Purchased mine a month ago. No problems with it! While I have other watches, the Oris Aquis was the first watch that I ever wanted, so I finally got one and I'm happy that I waited for the calibre 400. I wonder if I just got lucky or they corrected the problem.
Thanks for your feedback, I as well checked a couple of cal 400 out. Even if it does occur it’s ok with the live hack. What I disliked a bit was the way of communication. Other brands like JlC and AP have similar behaviours in their movements too.
I think it just shows how difficult it is to develop a new movement from scratch and to resolve all issues. Having a 1st party movement feels more exclusive but it doesn't automatically mean better performance or smoother operation. Even the big names can struggle to get it right. Companies are sometimes criticized if they use a 3rd party movement and ask 3 grand for the watch. Here's a watch that costs 3 grand and exhibits these quirks. In the end, what's better for the customer? Wouldn't you expect it to be flawless for the money?
Hello there! Great video! First of all you are not picky at all, more when we are talking of a watch at this price point.. Maybe would accept some errors on a watch that costs 300€, but 10 times the price is unacceptable. I owe the oris aquis clean ocean 400 and I have the same issues. Both of them, minutes hand jumps when set the time and also the power reserve. Unless I wound it well doesn't hold more than 48 hours... If manually wound the watch it holds a decent power reserve but don't arrive at the 120 hours advertised. Really disspointed. I emailed Oris today and in my opinion I gave the watch a decent wear and I tried to know it better see if there is any fix. So I am waiting for their response and hopefully there will be a solution. I will gladly return it and get the Tudor pelagos for the same amount. Cheers!
Crossing my fingers that there’s a solution for you buddy, the Tudor pelagos is a really underestimated watch, could be an interesting solution. Feel free to leave an update here, would like to know how everything’s turning out in the end. Cheers 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Is nothing wrong with the watch is just the way the movement is made but is actually an amazing in house movement and piece
Agreed it’s a Great Watch and since oris did share the live hack how to set the time without the jumping minute hand it’s alright for Me too
I bought this watch Saturday, Nov 21, 2020. I am over the moon with this watch. I think it is my first diver I am 65 years old was into watches when there were no quartz watches. I saw the review before I bought this watch. But I was willing to live with this issue if need be. But the watch I have doesn't have the jumping hand issue. I think the pluses outweigh the minuses.
Hi Robert, thank you so much for your feedback about your watch. I am happy it
Doesn’t has a jumping minute hand🙏🏻🙏🏻
The aquis is a beautiful and well made watch, it ever was, congrats.
Under my German videos 2
Owners did comment who could confirm the issue , but as well did confirm that the hack does the trick. One is happy with the watch the other will give it back. To me it is interesting to see that there also movements where it doesn’t happen.
Wear your aquis in good health, cheers mate 🙏🏻🙏🏻
I just can't believe this slipped through during development and testing. This can be forgiven on a Chinese watch not a Swiss one.
I do receive under the German version of the video also feedback that some don’t have the issue, let’s see what oris is coming up with, the movement has potential itself, I hope they can make an update
@@mb-watches I feel the Tudor 70 hour movement has more potential than this one. The one used in the new black bay 58. It's smaller and slimmer. Only if they added a date function to it.
Well, i am pretty sure there is going to be soon also a gmt iteration of the BB58, but I am sure that there will be also a solution from oris
New inhouse movement. They'll work out the quirks.😀
Really good point about the average buyer getting this as their first watch/first luxury piece, this is a watch that could very easily entice an early collector for its good value & in-house movement but they might get caught off guard with these "quirks." Hopefully, though this is just a symptom of it being a brand new movement & they roll out improvements to engineer out these issues as well as fixing/replacing the models purchased by early adopters - because the movement shows a lot of potential but a lot will hang on how Oris handles this as to whether this ends up a success or a step back.
Thanks bro, yes, I think too that the movement itself shows a lot of potential. Plus, I just like the Aquis and the Watch itself looks stunning.
I think If Oris would have given direkt and upfront information this would just have been better, let’s see how they address this topic in the future or whether they will/can improve the behaviour of the jumping minute hand.
I have the Oris Kermit. the -2 movement update. The watch still has the jumping hand and this probably won't go away soon in my opinion. As for the power reserve, I can confirm the 3.5 days at perfect time, I am gaining +1 to +3 seconds per day when it's fully wound (210 turns per the guide). After those 3.5 days the watch still keeps time fine but the second hand loses 15 or more seconds per day if you don't keep winding. I'd consider those last 1.5 days to be similar to the red area on the bottom of your gasoline gauge, the one telling you that if you don't get gas soon you'll run out and get stuck on the road. All in all the watch is great but there are definitely quirks to this movement.
Thanks for sharing, really appreciate it 😊🙏🏻
Oris is still having problems with the calibre 400. I really hope they will fix this soon.
Nope, they made a 400-2 update where the problem is solved 👍🏻
You can purchase a Hamilton Khaki with 70 hour for $350 ETA super accurate and reliable.
I am not really a big fan of the powematic movement as the higher power reserve reduced the beats per hour.
Also keep in mind that the movement keeps very accurate the time, which also was confirmed by engineer wannabe. If this is how the movement works I just would have liked to get an upfront information as this is a behaviour which one doesn’t find with other movements.
Came cause of the watch but stayed after knowing he is also a Rammstein fan
That’s the spirit, thanks buddy 🙏🏻👍🏻
ETA was much better. The only watch I know with those issues is swatch System 51...
And the eta ones are as well still available. Well sellita, Oris stopped using eta since a while
thank you for your sharing about the issues. I will not buy those watches powerd by this movement :)
You still can, I was just surprised about the way of communication from Oris in the beginning, with the mentioned life hack it is working and Oris updated rheir manual. Maybe you can try it out by yourself and see wether it is an issue for you
It makes me laugh that Oris are running from channel to channel getting reviewers to say that there is nothing wrong with the movement. Well there is . Any movement that needs twiddling around with to simply set the time accurately is badly designed and should have been sorted before being released. And who want extended power reserve when to get it means winding the watch 200 times. You will end up with repetitive strain injury but hey you can always use them.
At least the 10year warranty should cover any repairs those year 😁
Let’s see what they do or whether they are going to do anything. Fact is that also the AP15400 movement shows a similar behaviour, so it’s happening also with other brands
Unsubscribing them as well.
I had the hand jump. But it keep 5 days
Thanks for your feedback and good it keeps the 5 days. I think the jump is part of the movement and the hack for adjusting the time is working.
@@mb-watches its not always work
Thank you for the movie and the reply
I really like Oris' watches, I have 14 and I was really offended by the answer of oris. You yourself have set up a watch that works on the same principle, and it does not happen.If it's part of the mechanism, it's something special, had to attach an explanation to the instructions of the watch.
Hopefully they will find a solution to the problem, I waited for it for so long.
I just got home with my brand new Oris Aquis GMT, purchased today from an authorized Oris dealer, only to find the second hand stops running every other minute. A great looking watch, however it can only display the correct time reliably once a day (due to the GMT hand). It's going back first thing in the morning. Very sad Oris quality control is so bad.
Sad to hear it, in Europe the feedback is quite positive and I also couldn’t complain about my staghorn, was a great watch, thanks for sharing your experience here 🙏🏻
Calm down geez. Take it back they will give you a new one
Great video
Thank you for sharing 👏👏👏👍
Thanks a lot 🙏🏻
Far as I am concerned 😟 not good for the customers 😕
Great video
Thanks buddy, let’s see how oris is going to react, the movement itself still is promising, would be good if they could improve it. If not: the regula selita Aquis is alright and grey market about half the price 😁
The jumping hand phenomenon is a lot more common than people think, particularly with large power reserves, and some Richemont group movements have the same characteristic including JLC & B&M. Check out the same on a B&M at 45 seconds on this video: ua-cam.com/video/P8Mam-Utb-k/v-deo.html
The way around it has always been the same - go past the time and wind back to take up the slack.
If Oris do change the movement (personally I don’t think they need to), I wonder if these early “Jumping Jack” hand models will become future collectibles!
Thanks for your feedback Mark. Yes, the 15400 from AP shows a similar behaviour, I just think that if Oris knows about - what they should and I am pretty sure they do - they just should have put it into the instruction.
With the 15500 AP did show that they could solve the jumping, so maybe there is a way for Oris too , if not I would appreciate a clear communication.
The work around there is how i usually adjust the time so yes, you can adjust it correctly if you know
My hand jumps a little too - despite my assertions above it wouldn't, haha! Anyway I have found a couple of things to note. It doesn't jump all the time, and it seems to depend on HOW I set the time. By that I mean pressure applied. I stood in my kitchen 20 minutes playing with the crown before I even wore the watch and found if I used a fair amount of force in releasing the crown or pushing it back in, it jumped fairly often but not always. If I was gentle in both respects - no jumping at all.
It may annoy some people, but tbh it doesn't actually bother me. When I consider the number of times I'll be setting the time on my watch its not often enough that it'll bug me. I'm as happy with the watch regardless :)
Great review
Thanks a lot Dave, check out also engineer wannabes channel he was so kind sharing the footage and made couple of reviews there
You don’t this this movement / time setting problem on a ETA or Selitta.
A regular selita doesn’t sport 5 days is power reserves though. This issue can occur on movements which sport a higher power reserve. The AP15400 seem to show a similar behaviour. But I’d the selita is good enough it’s alright and you could get the regular Aquis with that one
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Both the flaws, as well as Oris reaction and "fixes" are unacceptable in a watch of that price... I'd expect stuff like that in a $150 Pagani... I'd be pissed if it happened in a watch over about $300....
There are 2 things that make this problem seem worse....1) Not all watches have it. Some have the issue some don't. So when Oris gives a technical explaination that it's due to the double barrel and the need to synchronise, it doesn't cut it. I mean if that's the reason then all watches should have the problem as all have double barrel (watches with new movement). The other point is on one hand Oris is saying it's expected due to the barrel design and then can't explain why all watches don't have the issue. I mean when Oris goes online to explain how watches should be adjusted it just goes against everything people have been doing all these years. A user shouldn't have to go through the skullduggery just because he is getting a 5 day power reserve. They need to sort it out. Period.
Thanks buddy, I am with you there and think they should be able figuring something out. Let’s see what they’re going to do, the movement itself has potential. The AP15400 movement shows similar behaviour and as well not all of them though.
In my opinion, the minute hand quirk is unacceptable. A much inexpensive Seiko 5 do not have this issue why would a $3K watch be ok? This issue make setting time precisely to the minute impossible. I won’t buy it till Oris fix it.
Well, with the hack described in the video
It now is possible to at least set the time and it seem to work.
The price though isn’t just for the movement but also for the watch and the aquis, especially the one with the bee movement inside does look and feels pretty good.
That Said, I still would prefer the minute hand not to jump when pulling the crown, under the German version of this video
I did find though a comment which stated that some JLC movements have the same behaviour.
@@mb-watches Surprised to learn that some JLC movts have same behaviour. I currently own 4 JLC and glad none has this issue. Would be keen to know which movt it is.
Me too, I am investigating this as the moment too, its hard to find anything about that so far. Will give you an update
Small update, the AP15400 shows the same issue. It’s also describes by AP. The 15500 though isn’t affected
@@mb-watches Thanks for the update. It is unbelieveable those customers who pay that much $$$ are willing to accept this kind of issue.
Maybe just get Tudor, there stuff is spot on for very similar cost..
Unless it’s the black bay gmt and you have to go without it for a couple of months whilst it went back to the factory to have problems with the date wheel fixed (sometimes on more than one occasion), or the aluminium crown tube corroded (common problem on the black bay). I’ve had a Pelagos and 2 black bays and all three had gritty crown tubes.
@@bettycooper9644 that’s pretty unfortunate for your Tudors, I’ve got three, all new, and the crown winds smooth as butter! Not sure about your crown tube, aluminium should not corrode?
By the way, I don’t work for Tudor...😁😆
Well also the gmt Master had the same issue in the beginning but this is and can be fixed.
And the regular BB didn’t had hick ups so far.
Same chance for Oris, those things can happen and as mentioned also the AP15400 movement shows the same behaviour as the Oris calibre 400
Tudor is kinda boring and too conservative in their design. You won't get the 10 year service intervals or the 5 days either.
Hi Konstantin, I have no this Problem with all my Watches. Nice Info from you 👍👍👍👍
Thanks for your feedback my friend, the movement and watch do have lots of
Potential so let’s see how this will be addressed.
My Aqua Terra 8900 does jump when pushing the crown in, does yours?
My AT didn’t also the SMP’s I payed my hands on so far
That issue is a turn off! 💯
My Mido Ocean Star doesn't do that at all.
This Mido is solid in every aspect and he gives the time with a chronograph attitude.
Caliber 80, 80 hours of power reserve made by Swatch Group.👌🏼
I can understand that. But I have to give oris a bit credit too to release a new movement. I hope they can improve the issues, until than you have got also a big variety of aquis and other models with regular selita ones.
@@mb-watches after seeing YOUR video, i would rather by a TUDOR black bay bronze.
I did NOT liked what a saw and i would not risk my money!
The Tudor is a beauty and cool watch. But also the Tudor gmt movement hat it’s issues in the beginning.
Makes appreciate well tested, reliable movements from Rolex and ETA.
Hi Michael, no one is quoting that the new Oris Calibre isn’t reliable.
Lol, lots of problems with Rolex and ETA. Nice troll thought