Hello everyone! Firstly thanks for the support on this video, it's been amazing! A few points to note: 1) Cuesoul today (28th March 2024) have released a Kite version of the T19 flights. 2) Bulls union aren't available in clear but they are available in yellow and green) - I still don't like them 3) Condor have recently released a new "120" system with 3 flight wings rathe than 4. Although not easily available worldwide. 4) Target have now released the No2 K Flex and Luke Littler has been seen using his own design with his logo on also so I imagine these will be available soon. 5) Shot have now released a couple of colour versions of the flight deck!
Thanks mate, great choice! I think I'm coming round to the idea of doing reviews more regularly, as long as it isn't in a traditional review format. I've got another one coming soon on the Josh Rock 80% darts!
Ordered my first set yesterday, went with the cuesouls and with the way you’ve described them in this video I’m certainly looking forward to using them! They also seem to be the longest system, which I prefer. Great video, looking forward to seeing more from you.
Thanks, glad this has got you excited to use them. Yeah the cuesoul had 6 lengths so do come shorter and longer as well as the standard sizes. They're a really nice system
@@MatadorDarts forgot to come back to this, but been using them for a few weeks now and your review is very accurate! Great system, I might try a couple others out but I think I’ll be using these for the near future. Thank you for your video, it has been a great help
Cuesoul being the innovators of the all in one flight shaft system, we pride ourselves on making sure our products are top as well as tried and tested. The Shot flights are seemingly a direct rip off of our AK57 that you showed in the video, the AK57 came out a a while ago, where as shot released theirs a few months back. We also have the AK5 all in one, and they cost between £5 and £12
Great video Kurt, I use the condor axe and have done for several months. Amazing system, just like you said it has been about for a while so they're tried and tested even by the pros. Keep up the good work 👍🏼🎯
I also, over the past 18 months or so have tried most Moulded Flight and Stem Systems. The Cuesoul are by far the best for my throw, I like my darts to sit up, and most systems make my darts lay flatter, but the Cuesoul don't do this. They are quite pricey but worth every penny, especially if you use a swiss storm point to eliminate the lip between the point and the barrel. I swear by the Cuesoul Big Wing, they definitely are my go-to system and last absolute ages. Great content Matador, Love it ❤
I’ve used all these for a period of weeks with each one (much longer with the Axe and the K-flex), and I thing they are all just fine; they through straight and keep that 90 degree angle. I do, however, find the Axe and the K-flex seem to flight the fastest for me, so I tend to like those a lot and have had the most use with them (they both also last an incredible long time). I JUST got the Bull Nederlands Union moulded flights, and I have used them for about an hour today; I like their look and how fast they fly, but I’ll have to see how their durability is. Thanks for your input, very insightful and it will surely help a lot of people decide on a new flight to try. I’m a new subscriber and look forward to watching your content, mate, great job.
Thank you! Strangely I think K-flex and Condor fly quite slow but yes they might be a bit quicker than the other systems. I personally have gone back to using a standard flight and stem as they are best for me
Thank you mate! Yeah I originally wasn't a fan of the k flex but after a bit more use I can definitely understand why people like them (other than littler using them)
Thanks wazza! I tried to keep it balanced and separated so youtube can do it's thing and timestamp the sections. I'm keeping hold for now for a durability test but some may hold up well
I'm a big fan of the Cuesoul AK5s. The carbon stem version is the T19. It's about $20 US for a set of 6 of the AK5's, and about $12 for just a set of 3 of the T19s. I can't speak on the durability of the T19s, but the AK5's, guessing it's the same material, can get a bit chewed up over a few months of use. But, that's not really a problem at all. I think I will try the Axe Condors at some point because my local shop carries them. But, I'm very satisfied with the cuesouls.
Very good and honest review mate. Have ordered a set Condor AXE went on the Target web sit and see what you mean about availability. I do like the darts you showed the flights in what are they? All the best with your channel 👍
Thank you mate, yeah I can imagine target's k flex will always have supply issues until the price rises again unfortunately. The darts are actually my own custom darts. I have a video on the channel about them somewhere. I'm working on getting more made and released 🤞
I currently own and use a set of condor zero stress, target kflex, mission force 90 and winmau fusion. I would rank them 1, Kflex. 2, fusion. 3, zero stress. 4, force 90. The kflex are super durable. The mission 90s broke 4 days after getting them. The fusions are also very durable and super stable in flight.
Very close to how I'd rank them. Have you tried the Condor Axe? They might push the K-flex for that number one spot. My Mission Force 90s have started to split towards the rear after filming this
@@MatadorDarts my brother uses condor axe abd he says they are great. I was really disappointed with the mission force 90s. I have a shoulder on my tips so i dont have a lip where the point meets the barrel so the only wear and tear is where the flight wings hit each other and theve still torn on 2 wings after only about 5 hours of use. I expected more given theyve taken longer to create them.
I agree about the mission 90s. Mine were torn and useless after two days. My K flexes however held up for 7+ months before I thought about replacing them.
Thanks for this vidéo where you test all brands 👌. I got the fusion in short but for me they're landing very flat in the board and I get a lot of rebounds. I usually use short pro grip evo with dimplex sparkle, this combo is better for me.
Great video. Thanks. Have you tried the Harrows Clic system. It’s a two part set-up for £7.90 and the flights spin although this can be stopped with the included rings. Stems are quite rigid but flights are flexible. Because they are two part you can swop in new flights when damaged instead of having to replace whole system with the other systems. Also you can have for example white stems with blue flights or any other combo you prefer.
I haven't tried them but heard they are quite heavy which means they weigh the rear of the dart down a bit. Also haven't actually seen them for a while
@@MatadorDarts nice! I've just ordered some in medium, looking forward to using them! I was going to go for intermediate but they didn't have any in red in stock! I've got a red and clear set on the way!
I've used the kflex and fusion for a few months now and I'm thinking if going back to the regular flight and stem set up. Moulded flight systems are just too ridged, even dangerous in my opinion as any deflections can catapult the dart faster and further than the normal set up.
Yeah I know what you mean, I still use the regular flight and stem setup. I did play with condors probably 6-7 months but found I played better with normal flights and stems
When my K flexes wear out I will return to regular flight and stem. I tested deflections on the two systems for a couple hours and I agree that K flex deflections are more severe. Same with Mission Force 90 but I had wing tear within an hour on those and they were a waste of money for me.
Interesting review. I still use the traditional stems and flights. I have been trying L-style lately but still not 100% convinced to switch over to those. Don't really see the plus in an all in one system.
There's positives and negatives really. If your darts stand upright then using all in one's can be useful as they give you bigger margin for something to use as a marker but also they can deflect in funny ways. I do like the L style flights
Been a fan of Beehive flight protectors. Wondering if any type flight protector can fit on back of any of these AIO's Thank you for an excellent thorough review of the AIO's
Great review! Any recommendations for a system with which my darts will stand up in the board a bit more? Recently switched from standard stems and flights to K-Flexs, but my darts land a lot flatter in the board with them. I know you mentioned the Cuesouls, but really dislike the look of those…
@dominicoverdijkink it really depends on the throw but generally something with a thinner flight would work. The Shot Flight deck has a good thin flight but is expensive. Another option I could recommend is L-Style Kami flights
Well I’ve got quite a hard throw so that might have something to do with the darts landing flat. I’ve also realised I’ve phrased my question a bit weird, I don’t mean the dart itself standing up, but the flight rather, so the point landing downwards. Cheers pal!
over the last month or so although he uses a lot of equipment Peter Wright has been using the Winmau Fusions quite a lot and as of last night, i have these flights myself in a medium which is the same length as my k-flex's but yet my Fusions make my darts land reall flat unlike my others of the same length.
seeing a wee bit of a snatch on the draw back of your throw that I havent seen before in your other videos. have you been seeing a difference in your darts game?
Yeah it comes and goes. I think it's a fallout effect of my elbow pains I've had the last few months even though its mostly gone now. It's also usually worse when I try and talk/present and throw at the same time
Im dealing with bad forearm pain the last 6 months or so. Switched to heavier darts and the pain has gone down immensely. Just wish i knew this was going to happen before i got my custom darts made lol@@MatadorDarts
Recently started using the winmau fusion, great system for me. But not as durable as the condor axe. Tried the k-flex and i just cant get on with them. Not sure why but definitely its the winmau or condor over the k flex
@gavwilliams722 yeah it's all personal preference. I think the L flex are slightly thicker flights which does effect the flight of the dart. Condor and Winmau are very similar in that aspect so that's likely why
They're my own 23g custom darts, there's a video somewhere on my channel from a couple of years ago. I'm hoping to re-release them some point this year
What barrel / tip would you recommend. Intermediate player but practice and hour daily. I know you have custom ones in this vid . I’m currently using the luke littlers and I despise them
It really depends on what you're comfortable with throwing and how you throw. If you can, I would try and get to a local darts shop that lets you test out barrels and you can go from there. Or buy a couple of cheap sets from places like Darts clearance that are different weights and shapes to the Littlers
I bought some cuesouls and within a month the actual flight got destroyed from grouping the darts Then I bought some kFlex and fusions and myself o can’t choose which one is the better option I’m actually going to try some condor axe gradients as my next choice and then I’ll get back to you with the results of my own research but cuesouls have been the worst of my bunch so far
First of: The flightpath isn better or worse with any of these, Its your arm bro and its normal. Second: I only use integrated since i got tired of having to change a stem and 3 flights every day and seeing that i have 5 sets of darts that i throw with all of which has Integrated flights and seeing that i throw more than most (around 30-35hrs a week) i have "tested" these a lot and i can tell you that different coloured k flex lasts different, I guess it has something to do with different colours being diluted different, Seems like something happens when they mix in the stuff to make different colors and they wont last as long as Condors in general. Dont use sharp points and only use coned points when using any of these, Especially k flex and Fusion will look like a dog or something chewed on them if u use sharp points or normal points. Green k flex are prone to get "bubbles" inside the wings after a while for some reason, Clear ones gets chewed way faster and can get cracks in the wings (never seen on any other color but clear ones are more rigid) , Blue ones have cracked and broken of at Barrel height and this i have never seen on any other colour. Black ones gets chewed quite fast. Red i never had any issues with so far. Worth to mention is that Condors are way shorter per size (short/medium etc) than k flex and the threads are way easier to brake on Condors than any other ones if you screw them down too hard . Fusions get chewed quite fast compared to Condors but not compared to certain color k flex. Yellow Condor axe neon will get scratched up and look like shit very quickly. If you're cheap cyeelife integrated or xqmax fenix (the same ones as cyeelife) is a good alternative. Same length as medium kflex and way cheaper, Will look a bit rugged after a while but holds up very well. Order more than one set since some wings (like one per 5 sets) can be a bit uneven when they mould them
Thanks for the info, a lot of this I actually said but left out as the video was getting too long. In terms of "flight path" what I meant was how similar it was to a regular flight and stem. Some are very different and some are not so this is useful to know so that you don't need to adapt your throw when looking to change to all in one
Nice vid. Tried almost all of them myself. Took me a while to get used to them. I always switched back to lstyle. All of them were landing to flat for me. Got finally used to it. Teste kflex winmau and Condor axe the most. And condor axe by far the best for me
Currently using the k-flex but got some shot flight deck on order to try out, i know you mentioned that "gap" when they bend but whos bending stems in play :D
It's just a consideration really, it means there may be points where stems can become easily damaged. What I didn't realise was that they can pop on and off although not sure why you would want that
@MatadorDarts ahh yeah I noticed that in other reviews, I would assume it's for easier manufacturing since they are designed to be able to rotate. I mostly looked at them because I get a lot of horrific deflections with my K-flex (dart hits flight of dart in treble 20 and careers off into the far right side of the 1 for example) so I'm getting them to test :D
Just ordered some winamu integrated off red dragon sun was in stock now got email saying due to popular demand might take upto 2 weeks to deliver ☹️ Anyone else ordered from these before my first time
For soft tip I vote k flex . Just wish they had no.2, and steeltip I still use foldable standard flights and intermediate stems. Tried axe and swear they get to the board so fast it would take me a week to adjust. And just not enough bend in them for me
Really good video buddy, very informative well done. I personally use L style ez which I know are not a all in one but are a molded flight, as I’m sure you know lol Got some k flex and Cuesoul rost t19 arriving this week to try out 👍🏼
@ryanwalcroft3351 thanks mate, yeah I was using the L Style dimple for a little bit but gone back to normal flights now. I might do a comparison of Cuesoul, L Style, Robson + others against the some of these in another video!
@@MatadorDarts I for one love comparison videos because I get to see the products side by side and being used with you’re opinions as there is so much different equipment on the market and we as dart players are always wondering if this or that product would improve our game.
Bit difficult to answer in words but I pinch the front section of the dart with my thumb and first finger then rest my middle finger at the side of the point
1:59 Hey, please try to balance your audio to all ears. It is panned to the right ear, and it makes the video just unlistenable. Not to be mean, i enjoy your videos :)
Thanks, yeah this was an editing/export error. With limited time I sometimes miss things in the edit as this isn't a job for me. Thanks for the feedback though
It's all personal at the end of the day. I used Condors for maybe a year before this video and actually a little bit after until the Target K-Flex came out and I just preferred them and they performed better for me
Deflections will always happen. Depending on how the darts land in the board a moulded setup can benefit, players like Chizzy and Whitlock are brilliant and using a dart just above the T20 as a marker
Hello everyone! Firstly thanks for the support on this video, it's been amazing!
A few points to note:
1) Cuesoul today (28th March 2024) have released a Kite version of the T19 flights.
2) Bulls union aren't available in clear but they are available in yellow and green) - I still don't like them
3) Condor have recently released a new "120" system with 3 flight wings rathe than 4. Although not easily available worldwide.
4) Target have now released the No2 K Flex and Luke Littler has been seen using his own design with his logo on also so I imagine these will be available soon.
5) Shot have now released a couple of colour versions of the flight deck!
Great review Kurt, I’ve just ordered myself a set of Winmau fusions. I know reviews aren’t your sort of thing but I think you did a great job!
Thanks mate, great choice! I think I'm coming round to the idea of doing reviews more regularly, as long as it isn't in a traditional review format. I've got another one coming soon on the Josh Rock 80% darts!
Ordered my first set yesterday, went with the cuesouls and with the way you’ve described them in this video I’m certainly looking forward to using them! They also seem to be the longest system, which I prefer. Great video, looking forward to seeing more from you.
Thanks, glad this has got you excited to use them. Yeah the cuesoul had 6 lengths so do come shorter and longer as well as the standard sizes. They're a really nice system
@@MatadorDarts forgot to come back to this, but been using them for a few weeks now and your review is very accurate! Great system, I might try a couple others out but I think I’ll be using these for the near future. Thank you for your video, it has been a great help
@tomtravis959 Great! Thanks for coming back to this and leaving your views, hopefully they continue to be good for you
Cuesoul being the innovators of the all in one flight shaft system, we pride ourselves on making sure our products are top as well as tried and tested.
The Shot flights are seemingly a direct rip off of our AK57 that you showed in the video, the AK57 came out a a while ago, where as shot released theirs a few months back.
We also have the AK5 all in one, and they cost between £5 and £12
@@LukeTuck110 the AK5 are great, they are by far my favourite and for the price you can’t knock them
Great video Kurt, I use the condor axe and have done for several months. Amazing system, just like you said it has been about for a while so they're tried and tested even by the pros. Keep up the good work 👍🏼🎯
Thanks mate, yeah I used the condors for a long time. I actually have a lot of sets and I don't even use them now 😅
I also, over the past 18 months or so have tried most Moulded Flight and Stem Systems.
The Cuesoul are by far the best for my throw, I like my darts to sit up, and most systems make my darts lay flatter, but the Cuesoul don't do this. They are quite pricey but worth every penny, especially if you use a swiss storm point to eliminate the lip between the point and the barrel.
I swear by the Cuesoul Big Wing, they definitely are my go-to system and last absolute ages.
Great content Matador, Love it ❤
Thank you mate, yeah I've been impressed with the cuesoul as well. I might try a set in the length I actually use 😅
Good video, I've tried most of them and my preference is the winmau fusion.
Thank you! Yes I was impressed by the fusion, its a shame some people had issues with them snapping because for the price they're great
I’ve used all these for a period of weeks with each one (much longer with the Axe and the K-flex), and I thing they are all just fine; they through straight and keep that 90 degree angle. I do, however, find the Axe and the K-flex seem to flight the fastest for me, so I tend to like those a lot and have had the most use with them (they both also last an incredible long time). I JUST got the Bull Nederlands Union moulded flights, and I have used them for about an hour today; I like their look and how fast they fly, but I’ll have to see how their durability is. Thanks for your input, very insightful and it will surely help a lot of people decide on a new flight to try. I’m a new subscriber and look forward to watching your content, mate, great job.
Thank you! Strangely I think K-flex and Condor fly quite slow but yes they might be a bit quicker than the other systems. I personally have gone back to using a standard flight and stem as they are best for me
Great video again Kurt! Gonna try get a hold of some Kflex and the No2 shape whenever they come out😂
Thank you mate! Yeah I originally wasn't a fan of the k flex but after a bit more use I can definitely understand why people like them (other than littler using them)
@@MatadorDarts definitely worth picking up a set of the No2 shape !
Great video Kurt.. love how you have done it.. I would be interested in any discards mate! ;)
Thanks wazza! I tried to keep it balanced and separated so youtube can do it's thing and timestamp the sections. I'm keeping hold for now for a durability test but some may hold up well
I'm a big fan of the Cuesoul AK5s. The carbon stem version is the T19. It's about $20 US for a set of 6 of the AK5's, and about $12 for just a set of 3 of the T19s. I can't speak on the durability of the T19s, but the AK5's, guessing it's the same material, can get a bit chewed up over a few months of use. But, that's not really a problem at all. I think I will try the Axe Condors at some point because my local shop carries them. But, I'm very satisfied with the cuesouls.
Very good and honest review mate. Have ordered a set Condor AXE went on the Target web sit and see what you mean about availability. I do like the darts you showed the flights in what are they? All the best with your channel 👍
Thank you mate, yeah I can imagine target's k flex will always have supply issues until the price rises again unfortunately.
The darts are actually my own custom darts. I have a video on the channel about them somewhere. I'm working on getting more made and released 🤞
Thanks for the very quick response appreciated @@MatadorDarts
I currently own and use a set of condor zero stress, target kflex, mission force 90 and winmau fusion. I would rank them 1, Kflex. 2, fusion. 3, zero stress. 4, force 90.
The kflex are super durable. The mission 90s broke 4 days after getting them. The fusions are also very durable and super stable in flight.
Very close to how I'd rank them. Have you tried the Condor Axe? They might push the K-flex for that number one spot.
My Mission Force 90s have started to split towards the rear after filming this
@@MatadorDarts my brother uses condor axe abd he says they are great. I was really disappointed with the mission force 90s. I have a shoulder on my tips so i dont have a lip where the point meets the barrel so the only wear and tear is where the flight wings hit each other and theve still torn on 2 wings after only about 5 hours of use. I expected more given theyve taken longer to create them.
I agree about the mission 90s. Mine were torn and useless after two days. My K flexes however held up for 7+ months before I thought about replacing them.
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Thanks for this vidéo where you test all brands 👌. I got the fusion in short but for me they're landing very flat in the board and I get a lot of rebounds. I usually use short pro grip evo with dimplex sparkle, this combo is better for me.
Thank you! Yes some people struggle with all in one flights because they are thicker. I have this problem as a front gripper they also sit flat.
Thank you for the review. Very informative!
Thank you!
Great video. Thanks. Have you tried the Harrows Clic system. It’s a two part set-up for £7.90 and the flights spin although this can be stopped with the included rings. Stems are quite rigid but flights are flexible. Because they are two part you can swop in new flights when damaged instead of having to replace whole system with the other systems. Also you can have for example white stems with blue flights or any other combo you prefer.
I haven't tried them but heard they are quite heavy which means they weigh the rear of the dart down a bit. Also haven't actually seen them for a while
Nice review mate.👍
For the moment, like most of us, we'll stick to the normal punched kite flight and the black nylon stems combo.✌
Thanks mate, yeah I'm sticking with that too for now
Thank you, very helpful
Think I will try the Mission darts first because I'm financially handicapped, lol
Really nice comparison! What size K-flex are you using?
These are the medium (or long) shaft length as that's what I used to use but now back playing with short which is why they were longer than the others
@@MatadorDarts nice! I've just ordered some in medium, looking forward to using them! I was going to go for intermediate but they didn't have any in red in stock! I've got a red and clear set on the way!
I've used the kflex and fusion for a few months now and I'm thinking if going back to the regular flight and stem set up.
Moulded flight systems are just too ridged, even dangerous in my opinion as any deflections can catapult the dart faster and further than the normal set up.
Yeah I know what you mean, I still use the regular flight and stem setup. I did play with condors probably 6-7 months but found I played better with normal flights and stems
When my K flexes wear out I will return to regular flight and stem. I tested deflections on the two systems for a couple hours and I agree that K flex deflections are more severe. Same with Mission Force 90 but I had wing tear within an hour on those and they were a waste of money for me.
Interesting review. I still use the traditional stems and flights. I have been trying L-style lately but still not 100% convinced to switch over to those. Don't really see the plus in an all in one system.
There's positives and negatives really. If your darts stand upright then using all in one's can be useful as they give you bigger margin for something to use as a marker but also they can deflect in funny ways. I do like the L style flights
Should try the cuesoul rost ak5
Yeah I was considering it but wanted to keep it to one system per brand as as this is cuesouls newest and most promoted product this made sense
Been a fan of Beehive flight protectors. Wondering if any type flight protector can fit on back of any of these AIO's
Thank you for an excellent thorough review of the AIO's
Not really sure in all honesty. They dint necessarily need flight protectors. Some have a nib on the top like the K flex
I cant recommend the winma fushion enough. Cheaper than most and i have a few different sets and havent had any issues with them.
Good to hear, I think value for money they're definitely the best. I know a few have shattered sets but they may be anomalies
Mine broke wings fast...
Great review! Any recommendations for a system with which my darts will stand up in the board a bit more? Recently switched from standard stems and flights to K-Flexs, but my darts land a lot flatter in the board with them. I know you mentioned the Cuesouls, but really dislike the look of those…
@dominicoverdijkink it really depends on the throw but generally something with a thinner flight would work. The Shot Flight deck has a good thin flight but is expensive. Another option I could recommend is L-Style Kami flights
Well I’ve got quite a hard throw so that might have something to do with the darts landing flat. I’ve also realised I’ve phrased my question a bit weird, I don’t mean the dart itself standing up, but the flight rather, so the point landing downwards. Cheers pal!
over the last month or so although he uses a lot of equipment Peter Wright has been using the Winmau Fusions quite a lot and as of last night, i have these flights myself in a medium which is the same length as my k-flex's but yet my Fusions make my darts land reall flat unlike my others of the same length.
Yeah, the fusions because of the narrower shaft will lay a little flatter
@@MatadorDarts okok thanks great vid btw
@@matthewdoubleday1409 thank you!
Currently trying condor zero stress as were cheaper than the axe. Super flexible though.
Yeah they're probably more focused for soft tip players but some do like them. I'm personally not a fan
seeing a wee bit of a snatch on the draw back of your throw that I havent seen before in your other videos. have you been seeing a difference in your darts game?
Yeah it comes and goes. I think it's a fallout effect of my elbow pains I've had the last few months even though its mostly gone now. It's also usually worse when I try and talk/present and throw at the same time
Im dealing with bad forearm pain the last 6 months or so. Switched to heavier darts and the pain has gone down immensely. Just wish i knew this was going to happen before i got my custom darts made lol@@MatadorDarts
Recently started using the winmau fusion, great system for me. But not as durable as the condor axe. Tried the k-flex and i just cant get on with them. Not sure why but definitely its the winmau or condor over the k flex
@gavwilliams722 yeah it's all personal preference. I think the L flex are slightly thicker flights which does effect the flight of the dart. Condor and Winmau are very similar in that aspect so that's likely why
What are the darts that the flights were on when showing them off on the desk?
They're my own 23g custom darts, there's a video somewhere on my channel from a couple of years ago. I'm hoping to re-release them some point this year
What barrel / tip would you recommend. Intermediate player but practice and hour daily. I know you have custom ones in this vid . I’m currently using the luke littlers and I despise them
It really depends on what you're comfortable with throwing and how you throw. If you can, I would try and get to a local darts shop that lets you test out barrels and you can go from there. Or buy a couple of cheap sets from places like Darts clearance that are different weights and shapes to the Littlers
I bought some cuesouls and within a month the actual flight got destroyed from grouping the darts
Then I bought some kFlex and fusions and myself o can’t choose which one is the better option
I’m actually going to try some condor axe gradients as my next choice and then I’ll get back to you with the results of my own research but cuesouls have been the worst of my bunch so far
The cuesouls for me were the best that are similar to a "normal flight" but yes I do know what you mean
Good video bud 👍🏻
Thank you mate! Just realised I wasn't subbed to you on this account 🤦🏻♂️
First of: The flightpath isn better or worse with any of these, Its your arm bro and its normal.
Second: I only use integrated since i got tired of having to change a stem and 3 flights every day and seeing that i have 5 sets of darts that i throw with all of which has Integrated flights and seeing that i throw more than most (around 30-35hrs a week) i have "tested" these a lot and i can tell you that different coloured k flex lasts different, I guess it has something to do with different colours being diluted different, Seems like something happens when they mix in the stuff to make different colors and they wont last as long as Condors in general.
Dont use sharp points and only use coned points when using any of these, Especially k flex and Fusion will look like a dog or something chewed on them if u use sharp points or normal points.
Green k flex are prone to get "bubbles" inside the wings after a while for some reason, Clear ones gets chewed way faster and can get cracks in the wings (never seen on any other color but clear ones are more rigid) , Blue ones have cracked and broken of at Barrel height and this i have never seen on any other colour. Black ones gets chewed quite fast. Red i never had any issues with so far.
Worth to mention is that Condors are way shorter per size (short/medium etc) than k flex and the threads are way easier to brake on Condors than any other ones if you screw them down too hard .
Fusions get chewed quite fast compared to Condors but not compared to certain color k flex.
Yellow Condor axe neon will get scratched up and look like shit very quickly.
If you're cheap cyeelife integrated or xqmax fenix (the same ones as cyeelife) is a good alternative. Same length as medium kflex and way cheaper, Will look a bit rugged after a while but holds up very well. Order more than one set since some wings (like one per 5 sets) can be a bit uneven when they mould them
Thanks for the info, a lot of this I actually said but left out as the video was getting too long.
In terms of "flight path" what I meant was how similar it was to a regular flight and stem. Some are very different and some are not so this is useful to know so that you don't need to adapt your throw when looking to change to all in one
Nice vid. Tried almost all of them myself. Took me a while to get used to them. I always switched back to lstyle. All of them were landing to flat for me. Got finally used to it. Teste kflex winmau and Condor axe the most. And condor axe by far the best for me
Nice one, yeah I used Condor for a long time. I think K flex do run it close though and good for the price
Currently using the k-flex but got some shot flight deck on order to try out, i know you mentioned that "gap" when they bend but whos bending stems in play :D
It's just a consideration really, it means there may be points where stems can become easily damaged. What I didn't realise was that they can pop on and off although not sure why you would want that
@MatadorDarts ahh yeah I noticed that in other reviews, I would assume it's for easier manufacturing since they are designed to be able to rotate. I mostly looked at them because I get a lot of horrific deflections with my K-flex (dart hits flight of dart in treble 20 and careers off into the far right side of the 1 for example) so I'm getting them to test :D
hey mate, can you make a video of long term durability each of em?
@jinkecik7028 hi, this was the plan but I don't get as much time to throw darts now. I will try my best to make a follow up
@@MatadorDarts great to hear that. Keep up the good work 👍
Good watch mate🤙🏼
Thanks mate! 👊
Just ordered some winamu integrated off red dragon sun was in stock now got email saying due to popular demand might take upto 2 weeks to deliver ☹️ Anyone else ordered from these before my first time
Yeah red dragon are a good and reliable site. It's crazy the demand for darts equipment right now
just ordered K flex of Amazon coming tmrw carnt wait to try them 👍
Good work!
Thank you!
I like the less expensive cuesouls.
Is that the AK5? I've been told a few times about them, I'll have to give them a try
I want to start using all in one systems, for starting and for the price i was thinking fusions or k flex what ones do you think?
I would go with the K flex personally as they're only a little bit more expensive but a lot better imo
am i the only one who is using the harrows clic system? it is so good
There's a few but newer alternatives seem to be way more popular
K flex are superb.
For soft tip I vote k flex . Just wish they had no.2, and steeltip I still use foldable standard flights and intermediate stems. Tried axe and swear they get to the board so fast it would take me a week to adjust. And just not enough bend in them for me
No2 K-flex should be coming next week as part of Target's launch I think! I also still use the traditional flights and stems
Really good video buddy, very informative well done. I personally use L style ez which I know are not a all in one but are a molded flight, as I’m sure you know lol
Got some k flex and Cuesoul rost t19 arriving this week to try out 👍🏼
@ryanwalcroft3351 thanks mate, yeah I was using the L Style dimple for a little bit but gone back to normal flights now.
I might do a comparison of Cuesoul, L Style, Robson + others against the some of these in another video!
@@MatadorDarts I for one love comparison videos because I get to see the products side by side and being used with you’re opinions as there is so much different equipment on the market and we as dart players are always wondering if this or that product would improve our game.
what dart are you using?
I am using my own custom 23g darts. They'll be on sale in September and for pre-order in August!
What darts are you using :)
These are my own Custom matador Darts Originals. There's very few sets left available on my website which is in the description!
How do u hold a dart?
Bit difficult to answer in words but I pinch the front section of the dart with my thumb and first finger then rest my middle finger at the side of the point
Which darts are you using?
My own 23g custom darts which will be available for pre-order in August and on sale in September (if there are any remaining)
CyeeLife Flights I miss in this comparison...
Yeah unfortunately I couldn't get them where I am at the time. I have heard good things though
For me the best feel and performance in my dart is the winmau fusion but for toughness and durability your not beating the condor axe
1:59 Hey, please try to balance your audio to all ears. It is panned to the right ear, and it makes the video just unlistenable. Not to be mean, i enjoy your videos :)
Thanks, yeah this was an editing/export error. With limited time I sometimes miss things in the edit as this isn't a job for me. Thanks for the feedback though
@@MatadorDarts cheers brother!
The condor 120 blows all these away both with performance and fit and finish
It's all personal at the end of the day. I used Condors for maybe a year before this video and actually a little bit after until the Target K-Flex came out and I just preferred them and they performed better for me
I think this plastics is all tooo much expensive, use l style and i tried all others too
Some of the all in one systems do last a lot longer than L Style in my experience. Saying that they all have their benefits
@@MatadorDarts did u try l style fantom
@@kvajeblostari I haven't yet. I'm not really a fan of the EZ style flights. I like the metal ring as I still sometimes robin hood EZ flights
I don't last a day with L-style , they rip from the bottom, their quality has gone down ,they used to be better a couple of years ago
Flights are designed to come off to stop deflection.
Deflections will always happen. Depending on how the darts land in the board a moulded setup can benefit, players like Chizzy and Whitlock are brilliant and using a dart just above the T20 as a marker
harry maguire
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