All Quiet on the Western Front (1979) is NIGHTMARE FUEL
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🎬 Connor analyses the 1979 made-for-television version of Erich Maria Remarque's 1929 novel. Here, even an all-star cast including Ernest Borgnine and Donald Pleasance can't prevent the deeply uncomfortable lessons learned from this powerful film.
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I like all three versions. I think each one brings the same message to the table, just in different ways.
I completely agree!
I wanna watch the first one. That’s the only one that I haven’t seen yet.
I’m still scarred from watching “Come and See”
the three versions are perfect by themselves. they are so, so good. and the book is even better, for those who love this kind of stories.
@@Mon-gm7rk The netflix one is so overrated
@@daniellap.stewart6839 nah it isnt, youre just a contrarian without much thought put into your opinion.
In the book Paul's teacher, the one who gets his students to join, he ends up being called up by his reserve unit and ends up bullied by one of his old students whom he tormented. He gets reduced to wearing an ancient uniform that no longer fits as he tries to keep up with drill. The thing I liked about the end is Paul is shown being the old hand to the other soldiers. He goes around to see that their rifles are ready and awake and alright just as Katt did in the being. Sadly he doesn't last long.
That's a great bit of trivia right there! Very much looking forward to reading the book!
In the final scene Paul ist wearing the soft and comfortable boots formally worn by his fallen comrades Kemmerich and Müller. A strong detail, I guess.
@@thorstennommensen5105 Another interesting detail in the movie is the part with the Kaiser. The actor playing him was mindful to keep his one hand on his sword which the real Kaiser did to hide his deformed arm and when he's pinning medals on the soldiers someone is assisting him.
@@UnleashTheGhouls It's a great read. I highly recommend it.
@@UnleashTheGhouls The 1979 made for TV movie is fairly faithful to the Remarque novel.
My favorite part is when Paul's last friend is killed by the machine gun while trying to save the lieutenant. Seeing Paul, who was rather quiet for the whole movie, just start screaming, was really something else
That's a heartbreaking yet brilliant observation Chloe!
This was the movie I grew up with as a kid. After re-reading the book and watching the newest All Quiet on the Western Front, I have to say I enjoy this movie the most out of all three of them. I'm so glad you covered this one. It's a gem and well deserving of a spotlight.
Thank you Aaron, it's a film I'm delighted to cover!
For me, this one towers above the recent version.
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO APPRECIATES THIS VERSION. I could connect more to these guys more than any other version of this film. This is one of my all time favorite movies. It is simple yet it gets right to the point in the horror of war. This movie is the best. The original changed film yet was crippled with filmmaking at the time. The new one we can't connect to the characters easily because of the overly realistic treatment of war that being everyone that can die will die and that war has no bounds. The 1979 version is the perfect balance between simple yet effective filmmaking. This movie is weirdly one of my comfort movies for some reason and I'm glad this version is being noticed more. Thank You. The note of animals being affected was spot on. The barrenness of the front is absolutely terrifying. The ending scene with Paul and the bird was heartbreaking. The bird is significant of innocence which in this case is a time gone by. This is how you treat war in film. You grow to connect with a character up until the very point of death which is swift and you realize this character you've grown to love is just another casualty added up in a list and eventually forgotten by time.
I feel like this version and the netflix version embody the difference highlighted in the quote "one death is a tragedy, one million is a statistic". The new version is very netflixy, great visuals but not huge depth. Those visuals include plenty of the "netflix vignette" and lens flare as well which is a shame. A perfect remake of the 1979 version but with modern budgets, equipment etc would be incredible. The new version fell a little flat for me in terms of the story, especially at the end.
The new one has no real plot or character development for 30 minutes straight.
I also think the visuals are nothing great as it looks completely artificial.
@@thomaskositzki9424 i completely agree
Very well spoken. I thought I was the only person who took comfort from this thoughtful film - I watch this film from beginning to end about four times a year. Excellent analysis & points by you!
The point that this version gets spot on, which the new version fails utterly to do, is convey the main message of the book. That is that Pauls death was so unremarkable that the news communique for the day was 'in the west - no news'. He had been so dehumanised that his death, like 1000s of others was not even deemed worthy of noting. Part of what Haig called the 'natural wastage' of the western front.
100% agree, netflix version is overly "hero story"
You are absolutely right.
The 2022 totally lacks the spirit of the original in many ways, I think.
Yep, the title of the new one is basically a misnomer because they don't include that particular feature.
The best version in my opinion. Saw it first a late evening in summer 1984 when I was in my basic training in German army. That evening our platoon was the alarm-platoon of the bataillon (in those cold war times each of the hundreds of bataillons had its alarm-platoon) and right in the middle of the movie (within the horse-scene) we were alarmed. Steel-helmet, backpack, rifle and then "out, out, out". Got ammunition (20 rounds each man), had to mount personal carriers and rolled out the barracks. It lasted half an hour to realize, that it just was a training. Imagine: That happened, when my comrades and me watched "All quiet...". That was really scary.
Did you try telling them "We can't start the third movie, we didn't even finish the movie about the first one" ? Seriously though, that would have been scary as hell. I remember being in our QRF battalion when Ukraine kicked off initially about a decade ago and lots of guys were hyped thinking we might go. Being in airborne unit and not having many antitank weapons, faced with the idea of more T72s and BMPs than god, I wasn't as enthused lol.
I'm super happy you covered the much less known 1979 version. This was the first one I saw and holds a place in my heart
It's such a great version Mitch!
This is my favourite out of all three, it's just done so well, especially the ending which was done beautifully
I love all 3 but this one is SUCH a great film!
@@UnleashTheGhouls agree
The 1979 version really did the bait and switch when I first saw it
Me too. Its definitely the most faithful adaption of the book, including its first person narrator.
In my opinion this was easily better than the 2022 version, which frankly was all over the place. I felt far more attached to Paul and Kat. The violence was just as widespread, and the plots tied together far more nicely. It was also far more faithful to the book.
I thought I was alone in this, but yes, pretty much this to be honest. The 2022 version isn't.... bad, but it's very disjointed. Like you said, there's no real getting to grips with the characters. The 2022 version fgelt to me to be more of a gorefest with violence for violence's sake to show the horrors of war, whereas the 1979 version focussed more on the human cost and the dehumanising effect the war was having on the group. The book is simply marvelous, and a recommendation to anyway who has time to spare to be honest. It really shows the utter headbanging stupidity of war in general.
100% agree, I've watched this old version a couple of times and just saw the netflix version. Wish it was more faithful to the book, its a bit too netflixy with the vignette long shots and landscapes, rather than telling the story of boys dying for nothing. Really missed Ian Holm in it as well
To put it simply, the 2022 version was a decent WW1 film by itself. Is it a good adaption to the book? No.
I really disliked that they had an 18 month time skip then crammed an hour of movie into the last 3 days of the war.
For me I think, the 2022 on Netflix is a re-introduction of "All Quiet on The Western Front" to the younger audiences. It's a "teaser" so the younger audiences curious about the book and then the previous versions (1979 & 1930). Honestly my countrymen didn't know "All Quiet On The Western Front" at all, until this 2022 version on Netflix.
"War is where to young and stupid is set killing eachother because of the old and bitter"
- Niko Belic
A few hundred men for a few feet of land? The reality is far worse. 19,240 British men were casualties on the FIRST day of the Somme....
Excellent video and analysis of these films. I have yet to see either ( the older I've gotten the harder it is for me to digest war films, I feel the suffering of it too intensely) but your channel and video has convinced me to finally watch both. Cheers!
Thank you for the kind words Jacob! That certainly is a crazy statistic! I hope that you enjoy your watches!
Somme was the British generals skills issue
@@airsmellnice4133 the British should have been an EZ clap smh generals 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Worst part of that statistic is the realisation that the Battle of the Somme was fought in exactly the same way, if not the same intensity, until mid-November 1916.
60,000 casualties, 19,240 deaths
this was the one that got me into the ww1 rabbithole
Understanding WW1 is invaluable in understanding the current time. So it's wisely invested time, not a rabbithole.
At least that's what you will tell your family and friends! 😉
1914 Helmets to 1918 helmets
I can’t decide which version I like the most. I think they work on different levels. I’d say 1930 and 1979 versions are much sadder and more depressing, while the Netflix adaptation is more shocking, terrifying and overwhelming. Ultimately nothing beats the book tho, which is both
The 1979 version was the first one I saw and loved. I Liked the new one but do wish they had kept some of the 1979 scenes in like the training with Corporal himilstoss and Paul going to his teacher on leave.
A cool thing I noticed during the last scene, was how the bird drawing got covered by the mud and was effectively destroyed and forgoten, kindof like the soldier who created it.
Ernst Borgnine was a WW2 navy veteran so I’m sure it helped the authenticity. I also was shocked as a kid by the use of sharpened shovels as melee weapons instead of the long bayonets.
Dude I can't watch this movie without tearing up.
9:10 Even today, in nursing, we use certain rooms for terminal patients. We'll give them a single room, so their family can be with them 24/7, without disturbing other patients.
I found the 1979 version far more powerful than the most recent one, because it did a much better job of making the characters real. The latest version had horrific moments, but it felt a bit disjointed to me.
Thank you for sharing that with us, however heartbreaking it is
This was the first dvd I ever bought. The ending shows paul for a brief moment rediscovering his humanity and his love of nature and it’s taken from him for that reason alone.
I saw this once in 1983 and I never forgot that ending.
I have yet to see the other two versions.
Another good war film you should cover is “Stalingrad” from 1993, after watching it, my anti-war mom’s phrase of “if you are drafted into the army I will cut off one of your toes so you have a handicap” really sunk into me. There is so much human cruelty and suffering that the people who attempt to stop it, are made to suffer for stepping in the way of “victory.” It’s a great movie
Don't worry, we have plans to be bringing out a Stalingrad video this year!
I think Stalingrad from 1993 is the best war movie ever made. As with other remakes, the remake for All Quiet On The Western Front and Stalingrad both failed terribly.
See what happens when you're faithful to the source materials? Absolutely love this movie!
Thank you so much for highlighting this magnificent version. By far the best. The new one was cinematically great but this is a much better story.
Thank you!!
I don't think the new one is any good form a cinematic standpoint TBH.
First 30 minutes there is almost no character development or coherent story to talk about.
The ark that I liked about this Film especially is when Paul is on home vacation during which he lies to everybody about the reality on the front to comfort them and laments that the books don't bring him any joy anymore. Also that he has basically nothing to come back to should he survive the war.
I remember my World History teacher showing us this movie back in my sophmore year during High School.
Its brilliant that the all quiet audio book is available on UA-cam. After i listened to that i watched the 79 film then tye 1930 on and about a week ago the new one. I think all of the films are on a roughly even level and i love how the films take different aspects from the books in the adaptations.
I think the uncut 150 min version of this film is the best movie of the lot. Thanks mate
You're very welcome Wayne!
I will never change my stance on Starship Troopers being a loose adaptation of All Quiet On The Western Front, it even mirrors the scene at that start with the patriotic teacher talking to his students.
Im sure that was intended
Would you like to know more
It's definitely there and intended. Verhoeven is a cinema/history buff to some degree.
Though I don't think it's enough to call it an adaptation, but that's nitpicking.
All quiet on the planet Arachnid Front
A lot of people said 1979 version was boring, but I myself found myself interested in the movie.
It's the slowness of this version that makes it so brutal.
I think this version of the story's focus on the characters is what makes it the best version in my eyes. To me once you're through the intro and into the body you are immersed in the lives of the soldiers
i personally prefer this version. thanks for covering it!
You're very welcome! Glad I finally got round to it!
I remember a scene in the book that really stuck with me but none of the movies ever showed. It’s the graveyard scene. I was very young when I first read it and it way terrifying. I also remember this one part where one of the new soldiers soils himself out of fear. Paul I think told him to take of his dirty underwear and consoles the poor lad. Later they find a wounded soldier with a bad chest or belly wound and as they try to rip Parts of his underwear off to tend to the wound they find out he isn’t wearing any, realizing it’s the poor guy from before.
It's sobering to ruminate about how we each would face being thrust into a war at the sharp end. You can get a small taste of the adrenaline rush from paintball, where your logical brain knows that "it's only plastic paint balls" but your survival brain only knows "hey, we're being shot at!" I can't imagine what it would have been like to face battle as infantry. I served for four years in the Navy, but rarely dealt with anything remotely worthy of serious personal concern. And- I guess that is what bothers me to this day (I am 58 now); I can't give a good answer to someone who asks, "Why do you play wargames and shooters?", but it likely stems from my search for an answer to a very personal question of how I would act and react when put in their boots. I imagine that I am not alone in this.
It's easily my favourite version of this story, one of my favourite films, to be honest. It just emerses, you!
Now imagine Remarque would have Paul survive till the end, and would have named him Adolf by chance.
Perfect template for later events...
I love your analysis of the 1979 film. This is my favorite version and I believe it holds the closest resemblance to the original book.
I share your opinion on this version completely. My great-grandfather fell in 1917 after he spent a short recreational vacation at home. My great-grandma told me once that when he said good bye to her and her baby (my grandfather) he knew that he wouldn't come back. This palette of dark desperate feelings I see very well reflected in the 1979 version - it is a tribute to the individual, like this ancestor of mine was. The Netflix version appears to me just like a cheap (well, actually not that cheap) horror cabinet. It starts very interesting but it looses contact to the characters rapidly and the ending (with the "super-bad-insane-general") contradicts the principal thesis of the collective mass-psychosis depicted at the beginning of the film. For me the Netflix version is a failure and an example for decay in filmmaking.
I remember watching this version of All Quiet on the Western Front with some of the people who lived in my dorm way back around 1979, 1980?? Can't remember the exact time, but this film was on TV. What struck was that some of these people studying at a major university did not know that these were German soldiers. They thought they were British.
John-Boy Walton wearing a "Stahlhelm". My suspension of disbelief can only go so far....
GOODNIGHT JOHN BOYYYYY
Caring about characters!!! That's what makes a movie great
i think being on any frontline in a major war would be nightmare fuel
I remember watching some of this version on PBS back in the 90's, that ending with him drawing a bird and getting killed stuck with me eversince
i watched the movie and i think its the best one personally
I really think the new version missed out on not showing them in boot camp, for people who know more about WW1 can see the quality of training severely drop in order to get more troops to the front as the war goes on. In this movie the quality is decent since the war just started, I don’t know if they show a specific year but they go in with the old Prussian helmets that were used when the war first started then later the Stahlhelm is out into service and also the use of the Gewehr 88 being used rather than the Gewehr 98.
Yes I do agree the boot camp segment is a vital part of the story
The new adaptation's Paul felt much more undeveloped, and the death at the end felt extremely contrived. I was really excited for a new AQotWF movie, but instead I just got an action blockbuster. Instead of years of harrowing experiences, we got a few weeks of rushed terror as the new movie was set so close to the end of the war. And the flamethrower + tank push was wildly awkward and inaccurate, I wish they'd went with FT-17's and sparse flamethrower teams mixed with other infantry.
I saw the 1979 version when I was 11, and it's been my favorite movie for the past 14 years. I loved it for the storytelling. 1979's Paul was honestly way more badass too, with his excellent grenade-throwing skills, luck, and survivalist instincts - I loved how long it took for him to bother helping the wounded Frenchman, the amount of desensitization he'd gone through up to that point made the whole scene feel more "earned" in a way? His reflection on how they could've been friends if it wasn't for the war was a nice touch. Wish there'd be an HD remaster for it.
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ANYTHING starring the late, great Ernest Borgnine was spectacular by default.
In the book it was much more gruesome he described the horse is getting hit by artillery shells tripping on their own gut's
Excellent review! Thanks
Thank you Christopher, excellent comment!
This is my favorite version.
thank you for bringing this great film to light!!
It absolutely deserves it!
I just finished watching this movie, and now I feel so empty. That ending made me feel so sad. (5:34pm-9:12pm, April 9 2023)
Easily the best version. Far more faithful to the book and realistic. The original 1929 version was actually banned in Australia. The home front didn't want to know the completely pointless slaughter they sent their sons to. They still 'celebrate' the slaughter on the 25 April every year, go figure. I've shown this version to my four sons several times and told them never get involved in Bankers/War Profiteers wars. 'War is a Racket' - Shelton. Another very powerful anti war movie is 'The Last Valley' 1971 set in the Thirty years war.
Glad you covered this one, my favorite rendition for sure
Hope you enjoyed it!
Thank you for reviewing the 79' version! Though last years is in it's own a decent movie, it only relates in name to the book in my opinion. So much was taken out of the new version. I personally prefer the 79' version above all others. It gives the best over all impression of the war and hopelessness the men were cast into. I find the ending of Paul more tragic in the 79' version as he was simply trying to draw a bird. An act so innocent and tied to his innocent youth. The new movie Paul dies in a pointless attack killing French soldiers literally up to be last seconds of the war. I didn't feel sorry for the new Paul when he met his fate. Though dark it was. I would like to see the 79' version remade if that makes sense.
You're very welcome Kevin! A brilliant insightful comment also!
Military nerd here - the 1979 version is also the most realistic version. From the way the trenches are build, uniforms are worn, how dirty they are and (often overlooked) how battles are actually fought (what tactics are used, where to take cover, how weapons actually work, how their effect is).
It is in my Top-5 most realistic war movies ever.
I almost left theater while watching the 2022 version - it has no plot or character development for 30 minutes straight and is utterly unrealistic. A real step backwards.
EDIT: 09:05 My grandfather was a WW1 soldier. He got injured by artillery (shrapnel that almost pierced his heart) and was sent to the "dead room" as a hopless case. When he was still alive several days later, he finally got treatment...
Thank you for sharing your military expertise Thomas!
@@UnleashTheGhouls Sharing my knowledge for the benefit of all is one of my motivations in life. Smarter people make smarter decisions, makes society better. :)
I enjoyed both movies, the 1979 and 2022 version. The newer one is a bit faster paced, which usually works better (but not always) but does feel a bit rushed at times as you point out with the crater scene. I have yet to see the 1930 version.
1:14 Ernest wasn't too old for that shit 😏
Richard Thomas was also Bill Denbrough in the 1990 It miniseries
I think this Version is better than the 2022 Version, because in this Movie they give the Soldiers a Face and a Backstory before they get Killed.
I loved the new one, but I saw the Richard Thomas version first and I thought it was one of the best films I'd seen, definitely the best TV movie I've ever seen. It was just a more encompassing story than the new one. But to be basically the same story, it's like comparing apples to oranges.
Best version
I saw this when it first aired. It was quite impressive for a TV movie. It looked like a theatrical release.
I saw this one first, need to revisit because it's been a long time.
I always thought that this version is the best one. I have seen all of them a few times (the newer one not so often) and have read the book. I think that this movie is closest to the book and I am gonna rewatch it after the video
Have a nice day everyone. :)
I really love this version of "Western Front". Another really solid made-for-tv WW1 film is "The Lost Battalion" starring Ricky Schroder.
I'm surprised how violent they let that one be by TV standards. Another I'd recommend was the 90s HBO When Trumpets Fade
I have only seen the latest one. And bits of the older ones. Looks like he goes on leave in the 79 version. It’s an important part of the book. But the scene with the dying French soldier, that’s amazing in the new one. And that weird, grotesque noise. Like a warning. Love that. In place of music. No sad piano music. A mechanical warning. Mechanical slaughter. The new version wasn’t like the book. They should stay faithful to the book.
I watched this one in high school up until the hospital scene.
I really wished the Netflix version showed them in training camp like the ‘79 one
Agreed!
The fact that some of the actors probably fought in ww1, ww2 and viatnam
Interestingly, the Kaiser (Wilhelm ii) couldn't bare to see the frontlines because of the horrid bloodshed. He was constantly worried about the troop casualties and was even excluded from military decision making by his own generals because of his "pacifist" tendencies.
Funny how the 'pacifist' was criminalized by the press. Also funny that the 'Windsors' changed their German name during WW1.
The new one does an incredible job of showing the violence of war, this one is my favorite for telling the story.
To me after seeing now all three renditions of the film, whilst the Netflix version is visually gripping the 1979 version is my go to. I am truly confused why the Netflix film strayed from the source so much and added in the mundane armistice characters.
It’s honestly the most accurate to the book and it’s just the best story!
I seen all 3 and read the book 📕
thank you for covering the best franchise of all time
Thank you for checking our coverage out!
@@UnleashTheGhouls no problem!
Question: Did the „Pickelhaube“ Helmet have its tan cover over the little spike or is the spike just painted Tan
Simply the best version
A great film for sure!
@@UnleashTheGhouls the original 1930 is limited by its time's standards. The new one is a great ww1 movie, however it doesn't capture the book as well. So that leaves us with the 1979 version, which will always have a special place in my heart because it was the first version I watched. It was what sparked my interest in the "all quiet on the western front"
@@siaratan9982 the only flaw in the new version is that they used "war is bad" theme from the start I started to roll my eyes
Shout Factory has released a blu-ray of the uncut 157 minute version of the 1979 version of All Quiet on the Western Front. It's well worth a purchase.
Thank you for making me aware of this because that is ABSOLUTELY going in my collection
so thats why i was getting dejavu when watching the netflix version, i had seen the 1979 version years prior and forgotten about it
This is my favourite version
No one focuses on it due to original and newest remake
Watched it with my class
More emotional than any other Hollywood crap I know
One of the best movies I watched which isnt about heroic garbage people
I first watched 79 version 30 years ago and many a times since. Watched the 22 version day it was released. You are spot on 22 movie is Great loved it but 79 is better it is Bleaker and more impactfull.
The 30s version tried to capture the visual aspect. The 79 version tried to capture the narrative aspect. If you could mesh them you will have a good display of the book.
I read the book in 1978. Saw the Halmark movie and bought the book in 1979.
Nothing. Nothing beats the book. It is moving.
The recent version elicits shock. This version makes you think. A lot.
I love the original and the latest remake - I only briefly watched this iteration, and plan on actually watching it.
A moment of silence for all War Horses who died in Battle. In World War One…8 million horses died. 💔🫡 🐎
I watched the 2022 version on netflix and for someone with really bad ADHD it managed to keep me hooked and interested for the entire 2 and a half hours. I havent seen the 1979 version but I think the 2022 version had some of the best acting ive seen in a while. (you have to watch it in german the english dub doesnt quite capture the acting as well)
This one had more impact on me.. I loved it
I was wondering how the new version (which I haven't seen) would measure up to the '79 version. I suspected it wouldn't be as good.
PS. The book was one of the very first ones banned by the Nazis.
I think what makes the book and movies so poignant as a person from a UK/USA/France/etc. is that you’re rooting for the success and survival of characters who in real life would have shot or bayoneted your grandfather! We were taught to never pity the Germans in the World Wars and here we are pitying them like they are our own!
as someone who has watched the waltons several times over its funny seeing him in a serious war film
You said exactly what I was thinking about the 2022 version.. I have read the Book then watched the 1979 version then the 2022. In my opinion the 2022 version loses two key aspects compared to the Book and 1979 version, firstly the Fact that fact that we watch the war from more then one perspective, in the 2022 Version we are all over the place with the General and the German-France-commity while in the Book there is none of that politic view from tthe outside.
Secondly there is the ending, I don't have accces to the book right now but it was something allong the line of "the only thing in the war report on Pauls deathday was 'all quiet on the western fron'" in the 2022 version however it was the ending day the day everyone awaited for four years during a attac in the last miniute, therby it isn't just another day on the Front were he died but a very special day for everyone and not just a oh well...anothe dead one.
One extra point about Paul's death in the film. Contrary to the latest film version, it has no specific date.
In the 2022 film, it's the last day 11.11.1918 and the very last minutes of the WW1 on the Western Front, making it almost "meaningful" for the sake of the character. In the original novel, I believe, it was "on an October day", towards the end of the war. The 1979 version has a mention of a "German High Command communique" dated 11 October, but no said connection to Paul's fate.
I always felt that this scene; being just one meaningless dead on an uneventful, meaningless day, is more suitable with the tone ofthe story and more impacting here than in the action-packed end scene of the 2022 version.
He was also the original Bill Denburough "big bill' the adult verson in the original made for TV movie IT part two. I did not care for the new version. War Hourse is one of the best WW1 movies of all time.
The best versión
The teacher should have gone himself as well.
I freaking love this movie it's actually my favorite movie