Ruane Shoves River, James Obst Correctly Folds Full House | 2016 WSOP Main Event: Day 7 | PokerGO
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- On Day 7 of the 2016 WSOP Main Event, Australia's James Obst and Michael Ruane collide in a massive multi-way pot.
The back-and-forth battle ends with Ruane shoving all-in with a straight flush, Obst tanking on the river with a full house, and one of the greatest folds in WSOP history.
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Legitimately one of best laydowns in poker history.
Not even close. What does he beat?
@@lordhegel600 make a great logical play and its "what does he beat", make a non intuitive play based on gut and its "a stupid call". cant win with some people
@@astronime I'm not saying it's not a solid fold, but he said "one of the best laydowns in poker history". Pretty obv fold after villain raises flop, leads turn and jams into your donk-lead...There are no bluffs...
@@lordhegel600 yeah it's impressive that he called out the straight flush, but he has the absolute worst full house possible, and is only beating bluffs
I don’t know why this hand isn’t more popular
You always hear people say “I knew it” or “I wanted to fold this,” but Obst actually did. Really awesome to watch him lay that down.
"it looks like you have a straight flush,you could be the best actor of all time" ~ classic :)
That comment was far more incredible than the fold itself
No matter how many time I have seen this, it is always incredable fold.
he beats only bluff, ruane never raise a flush there...not so incredable fold i think..
But he basically has to put Ruane on a straight flush too so it is a very good fold.
Also pocket T, TQ, TJ, QQ, JJ
@@crackcrack8636 you seriously think he bets and calls with rather weak hands like J10 or 1010 on the flop? Something you maybe expect from random fish online on microstakes, but these guys are pro's and plays the ME. Actually, playing the hand like Ruane did makes no sense with the hands you mention. QQ or JJ would never flat when Obst re-raises on the flop. You most likely put Obst on a combo draw in that spot so any decent player shoves to protect. Why let him get there? I know Ruane probably never has a bluff also but his play doesn't check out with anything else than 98dd. That's why the fold is so good.
@@ephoennixX So you think it is a easy snap fold huh ?
Thanks for telling us the result in the title.
dislike the video
I would’ve never clicked without that title tho
Dude there was a fucking ROYAL FLUSH and that wasnt in the title, give us a break
You still watched it
I would have never clicked the video if it werent for the title lol
I can't imagine Obst's reaction after watching the replay of this!!!! Just beast
Despite the pot getting so bloated, the small ball poker and deep'ish stack actually allowed them both the play the hand near perfectly.
There are no words to describe how fast I’d have thrown all my chips in the middle with a full house there... but that’s why I play for a hundred quid with my mates and not in the wsop main event...
Exactly, I wouldn’t have the heart to fold fulls there and potentially risk being bluffed. These guys are on an insane level of play, it’s beyond impressive
An amazing hand and one that really shows the value of good hand reading. A straight flush is obviously an incredibly hard hand to have but it's the only one that really makes sense with the action. A set of queens or jacks is probably more likely to jam flop on such a wet board and they will almost certainly check back turn when the flush hits. And if Ruane is bluffing what could he possibly have? It's hard for him to have anything but a big made hand or a flush draw when he raises and then just calls on the flop so he'd have to be turning something like QJ or a flush into a bluff. 98cc makes perfect sense in that he doesn't want to get all the money in on the flop bets the turn as he will with his flushes but is still able to jam it for value on the river after the board pairs. I don't know if I could fold it in real time and it's always possible Ruane has something unorthodox in a massive pot but it's a spot where the straight flush is by far the most logical hand.
It's so sick how Obst put Ruane on exactly what he had. Although it is impressive enough that Obst knew he was beat, of all the things that could've come out of his mouth, he chose straight flush... Incredible
I DONT CARE WHAT YALL THINK BOUT THIS.. BUT TO ME THIS IS THE GREATEST LAY DOWN EVER IN POKER HISTORY!!!!
I’d be more impressed if he was laying down a bigger full house, jacks full or queens full. 7’s full is the fifth nuts behind the straight flush, quad 10’s, queens full, and jacks full.
withoutmilk given the play on previous streets Ruane almost never shows up with a full house here, QQ/JJ would almost always be 3bet preflop button vs cutoff and TT is never raising the flop then calling a reraise after that
Obst had to literally put Ruane on a straight flush which is why he even says “looks like you’ve got a straight flush” which is the sickest of soul reads, not even sure if a fold is profitable long term there but he was right
Don't think so. Good fold but not spectacular
withoutmilk hummm .. it's even the 8th nuts, QT JT T7 would have beat him too
Roberto romanello full house lay down to other full house was better.
The fact that be put him on a straight flush is disgusting. He’s beat by a few other full houses but he put him on only a straight flush. That is disgusting
He probably doesnt put him on queens or Jacks since he only called pre...incredible read nonetheless
Could easily be QTs or JTs
Would've 3 bet QQ or JJ pre
C S B cannot be either of those hands given how the hand played out. No way ruane raises with top pair no kicker, calls a huge check 3 bet, and then bets that turn.
We'd only know for sure if the river were a 7.
That’s poker on another level!! Obst is a beast,yeah it’s easy to fold 77 if he puts ruane on QQ JJ TJ. BUT HE DOESNT!! He sniffed out a straight flush
Nathaniel Snyder it’s better than that; Ruane never ever ever ever has JT there. He loses to QQ, JJ and 98cc. Unreal
This, to put him on the sf over a better boat is one of the most unheard of reads I've ever seen. This blew my head up.
Unlikely he has QQ or JJ he prolly 3bets those pre
If the river would be 7, that’s the interesting scenario 😂
Some people get tricky with those hands to trap especially live with super deep stacks deep in the main. QQ and JJ are possibilities. Unlikely but possibilities
He raised with 8 9 suited honey. Monster fold tho
@Jonar K like others have said, in theory it's a standard laydown... However, I have no idea if I'd ever be capable of folding there. Just doesn't feel right. Amazing fold!
Phil Hellmuth quotes are the best.
He bet river to see if he was beat. He had a plan.if I boat up. Block bet river and he shoved I'm beat. There is nothing he beats there that ruane is shoving. And considering the pot is huge and his shove has almost no technical fold equity Obst is a genius player that knows he is beat. He doesn't beat QQ, JJ, Q10, J10, 98clubs. He beats no value and there are no bluffs on that board. That board is 100% value and 77 is the worst of the hands on that board. And ruane doesn't shove AK clubs over the top he just calls after the board pairs. I told 77 there every time. Although if river was a 7 and he folds quads that would be an unconscious laydown
I Zang damn why don’t u go pro, it seems like u just know what they have. And no, this isn’t an easy lay down. He had to put Ruane on exactly 89c as JJ and QQ are raising preflop and J10 and Q10 aren’t going to be in the hand after Obst 3-bet the flop.
obst the beast
One of the greatest televised hands of all time
When someone looks at the dealer when making all in bet, he's got it.
Why is that?
@@JDeWittDIY because that shows confidence and emotions, like he knows his opponent is going to lose 100%.
I've seen that a lot too, especially when they just say 'all in quietly while looking at the dealer. I've always thought it was because they sub consciously want to ensure the dealer hears them correctly
@@UnicycleIdiot Good point, Rat. That makes sense.
This is a truly amazing read. Wonder if he folds if the river comes a 7, since he's putting him on a straight flush 🤔
Lol... Can’t fold quads no matter what. He put him on a straight flush vocally but I’m sure he was thinking QQ/JJ
Nah, you can’t fold quads.
@@andrewptob The only difference is the pressure due to the publicity he would receive. It would be so embarrassing to fold QUADS and be wrong.
the straight flush was the hand that beats him he thought to be the most likely in ruanes hand, however i think he folded to the combined probability of 98c, QQ, and JJ. I dont think he could have folded quads here, but he probably would have felt disgusted even before ruane tabled his cards.
Why is this *never* included in the "Best Reads" / "Best Lay-downs Of All Time" compilations? So weird.
What I find amazing is that he put him on the straight flush, as opposed to pocket jacks. Incredible read and world class fold
because jacks ll not make this small bet on turn. A set of jacks should go with a crazy high bet to protect agains other clubs on the river, i such a dangerous move, or should choose a safe move and just check behind to avaluate the river. this small bet on turn is a strong flush bet, but flush ll never shoves on river.
One of thee best hands ever seen. Made even better by that legendary duo and their amazing commentary. "I dont know if he can take any legal action here but I would defend him" 🤣
99.9% of the poker population would have gone broke in that hand. This Obst guy is sick!!
But according to the experts of the comment sections who know the two players' cards, it was a snap fold, and only a fish would have caller.
Called*
Yep, I would've busted out there and then. No way would I have ever been so convinced that the *only* hand I was facing made a straight flush. Obst didn't really stop to consider anything other than. A great laydown - one of the best in televised poker history.
The fold on the river, although a solid play, is actually straight forward. I mean, what hands does he beat? The nut flush, perhaps, but it's very unlikely Ruane would have moved all in with that hand. He only really beats a bluff. The impressive thing about the hand though is how he calls the straight flush. That was a great read as a bigger boat was far more likely.
Lots of people are talking about the fold, but I think only betting 4.7M on the river and forcing Ruane to narrow his range was the most impressive play here. There was so much justification to just shove with 7's full without even getting to Ruane, but he chooses to just blocking bet.
I would like to be one of the youtube poker pros and explain how obst did it... but I can't
Makes you a better player than some of the 'pros' in the UA-cam comment section.
It is incredible that Obst knew Ruane might have a straight flush instead of a bigger full house. Crazy level of card reading
Greatest read ever.
Sniffs out the straight flush because he knows Ruane is only betting flushes on the turn. Betting a set would be suicide, inviting flushes to shove over you. He takes his time and narrows Ruane’s range to ONE hand. His actual hand, 9c8c. Incredible
That's why he's Andy McLeod
When you break it down what value hands is bottom boat beating as played? Is Ruane ever shoving an A high flush here?
I should think not after Obst check-called when a possible flush came on the turn and then led out when the river paired the board. He basically played his full house face up.
What's impressive is he calls out his hand. I might have folded for different reasons
Exactly like I thought he’d spot him on set over set full house but he spotted him on the straight flush wow
It is much easier if you see the cards, but the fold was pretty straight-forward.
Ruanne just called before the flop, so you can pretty much rule about QQ. He could have JJ or AK.
Because he raised on the flop, then that means he couldn't have JT or QT. He might have done this with QT of clubs, but the T of clubs came on the turn, so that combination is also dead. He also can't have AK or TT, because he would never raise with it on the flop.
If you deduce that your opponent is never bluffing in this spot, then it is a fold. He would never go allin with a straight(98 or AK) or a flush(AK of clubs for example) if the board pairs and your opponent is leading on the river. He either has JJ or 98 of clubs.
That being said, I still feel it is much easier for me to analyze the hand while seeing the whole cards. I would have probably been a nonbeliver and called like monkey if I were in Obst shoes.
Lon: Norm, at what point do you fold a straight flush draw?
Norm: I do not
I fucking love Norm
knows he doesnt have QQ,JJ or AK/Q of clubs cuz he just called pre-flop.. knows he doesnt have 10's cuz he wouldnt raise on the flop, and knows he wouldnt jam with any flush but the straight flush... amazingly tough to put that all together in the middle of a hugeeee hand when you have a fullhouse in front of you but obst read it perfectly and made an UNREAL laydown based on the circumstances
Amazing lay down, I also can bet that he probably thought Ruane had a higher full house, most likely JJ or QQ
No he literally says out loud you have the straight flush. Did you watch the hand?
The people who don’t think this is an incredible fold are only thinking about the fold in terms of the final board “well he only has the 8th nuts so of course it’s a fold.” What these people don’t understand is that pretty much the only hand that Ruane could have here that beats Obst, based on the way that all of the action played out, was a straight flush. Which was why it was so sick that Obst called that that’s exactly what Ruane had and laid his hand down.
Such a sick fold. Big respect !
Folding a boat is never easy, but this was incredible read
Guys he didn’t have the worst full house. The worst full house was that one with Danny Joey Jessie Rebecca DJ Stephanie and Michelle
Tell me you’re a fish without telling me you’re a fish:
“This IS THE BEST FOLD IN HISTORY, DNEGS v2. NO ONE FOLDS THERE. YOU HAVE A FULL HOUSE, HOW CAN IT BE A FOLD!”
Revisiting this hand. Initially I think I thought there was only one hand that beats him, the suited 8-9 of clubs. But other hands beat him as well: pocket queens and pocket jacks. HIGHLY unlikely pocket 10's...the hand just didn't play out that way. I would have called though, figuring he had hit an ace-high flush....unbelievable laydown....the best play of his poker career.
damn good fold... he just knew he was beat, by a bigger FH, or that SF... love that 89 suited =)
@@bonethirsty He said "Straight Flush".
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How’d he spot him on a straight flush instead of set over set house?
that was a hell of a lay down
so he figured the other guy could have had a bigger full house but that is thinking better than me.
Not really. He is just a nitty player overall. Go check one of his game. He folded a full house, when the opponent have a nutflush.
2023 and still can't believe he laid it down
Obst had the bottom full house on the river. He check-called when a possible flush came on the turn and then led out when the river paired the board. He basically played his full house face up. What worse hand raises him there?
Obst lays his boat down so smoothly too. Sick individual.
Good laydown, but to be honest, definitely not as sick as a lot of people see it as. If you think about how the hand played from the start to the shove, the only hands Ruane could have are JJ and 98cc as played. QQ is of course possible too, but he would more likely 3-bet that pf. He wouldn't call Obst's rereraise on flop with anything else than QQ/JJ/nut flush draw/98cc and he'd never shove the nut flush to Obst's bet on the river with the paired board. Obst is literally beating the nut flush only and that hand only calls the river, at best.
Amazing play by Obst.
It's more impressive he called the other guy's hand as a straight flush rather than just assuming he was hit with a higher set/full house
Nice fold especially since QQ certainly 3bets preflop and JJ might also. Would be easier fold if Q or J came on River since then QJ also beats you but hard to know it here.
He should've called. Ruane usually just going crazy here
Helluva read.
"Looks like you have a straight flush, or you could be the best actor of all time."
He has the worst full house possible. Forget the straight flush. Ruann could have a lot of hands that he's betting hard. And nut flush ain't one of them. Not that hard a lay down.
Its a very nice fold and I dont know in the moment if I could lay it down, but he did have the worst possible full house. I dont think Obst would have pushed all in with a flush or even broadway when the 10s paired at the end there. If he had a flush or straight, he probably would have just called Obst's river bet. Either Ruane had it or he was bluffing.
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Ruane should have bet 4.2m on the turn. That way the shove at the end would be too tempting as Obst would bet bigger and have to call off getting an amazing price.
Rae Rawaili I totally agree with you, Ruane should bet a little more on the turn. Some where around 4.2m to 4.8m. And leave himself a perfect river shoving amount
Great read, although Ruane's flop raise and calling Obst's 3 bet left him exposed a little. I suppose you could argue that Ruane has JJ there by not 3 betting pre facing the UTG open, but that still seems pretty unlikely. QT and JT make no sense with that flop.
He played that great. If he doesn’t lead out on the river, Ruane can just shove and he might have to call. Probably had a bet fold strategy in mind when leading out.
It’s a cool hand. They both know what each other has exactly by the time it’s over. Cause 89 is Ruanes only possible combo. Maybe J10 ♠️ or Q10 ❤️ but those are really unlikely and only 2 combos. And 77 is Obst only hand possible besides maybe KQ clubs.
89 and 77 just called an open pre and they went 4ways to flop. All like 100bb effective. We can rule out QQ cause neither of them just flat a open with it.
77 in sb checks, KQ continue bet, 89 raised, and 77 reraises. Open folds and 89 calls.
QQ isn’t possible, JJ that didn’t 3bet pre, now isn’t possible. Cause JJ doesn’t just call and slow play on QJ7 2 tone board. Too many bad turns, may as well get it in with JJ which is nuts.
The turn brings 10 of clubs. So 77 slows down. He thinks ruane has a flush most likely and he’s right. Ruane bets this board no matter what I think. Ruane cant even have 89 of anything else but clubs. All 89 suited fold pre. maybe Ruane has a couple combos of Q10 suited, unlikely.
Easy check call for 77.
Now the river pairs board. Now 77 beats all flushes so bets small targeting like A-high flush draws. Obst leads all boats and some block bets with a couple flushes he could have like KQ of clubs.
When Ruane shoves he’s is really polar.
he can’t have QQ, can’t have JJ, doesn’t have 1010.
Q10 ❤️ only combo of Q10 left. can’t see it raising flop and calling a reraise. It’s possible but like 1/1000 I think.
J10 clubs aint impossible, maybe J10 of spades, but that’s unlikely to continue like that after flop too.
Ruane doesn’t shove a Ace high flush, he just calls that size bet or hero folds.
77 really is only losing to 1 hand and it’s 89 of clubs.
This is a really cool hand, cause Obst knows ruanes exact combo. And ruane would have a 66% chance of nailing Obst hand, only question would be are the 7s 💎 ♠️ and/or ❤️
Someone call Mike Postle...this guy is a "god"
From obst' perspective, even though there are no bluffs and this is strong strong value, it seems insane to fold here.
9 high like a b... oh wait
You have straight flush, right??
Yes we can see the cards but It's really not a hard fold. Only hand he beats is a bluff. The guy was the original raiser, could easily have QQ, JJ, Q10, J10 he is not shoving on the river with anything other than a better full house
Obst correctly puts him on a straight flush and folds. My question would be: does Obst fold if he has pocket queens?
He’s not putting him on just a straight flush. He’s only got the 8th nuts and Ruane is not shoving worse for value and a bluff would be pretty filthy.
Amazing fold though but not as good as some others on here
Thats a world class fold.
Best fold I've ever seen. Amazing read
That's what we call a great fold
You call on a turn and filled up on the river. And fold?
Everytime I watch this I expect Obst to call
Had to put Ruane on the straight flush like he said. JJ or QQ reraises the flop on that wet board. Any combo of Q10 or J10 will not call a 4 bet on the flop.
That is an amazing fold
Full house vs Straight flush wsop event. Should been the title .
Ruane would have shoved on the flop if he had QQ or JJ given the board was connected with lots of draws. So although Obst’s read was impressive, it was actually an easier read for him given the post flop action
Wow! How in the fuck could he do it.
He puts him on a straight flush and folds wow
Hell of a laydown, but not unheard of. Obst has the worst possible boat and Ruane would have no reason to shove the river with a flush (what worse hands call him?) but it was very impressive to read him precisely for the straight flush.
Only a correct fold if you think Ruane flat calls with JJ, QQ, AK clubs preflop. Otherwise pretty bad river fold
Wow Ruane had to be flipping out when he told him it looks like you hsve a straight flush OR youre the best actor of all time.
If he put him on straight flush, would he have folded with quad 7s? But how could
No... there are 4 other comb of hands that beat him.
If I remember correctly, Obst said in an interview that he would have folded quads there too. Superhuman.
Ruane played that hand so insanely strong that made Obst fold
A fold is definitely possible, but calling a straight flush as the reason for your fold and being proven right is other-worldly.
he didnt really think he had that hand..... just another player trying to be Daniel Negraunu on tv.... but a great fold none the less.....
Obst is a fucking legend not human
folding the 7's is easy here but being able to decipher the straight flush is really impressive by obst. it looked like ruane more so had queens or jacks full by that river raise.
Yeah I always fold full houses when someone shoves
lol folding 7‘s is easy 😂 how many millions have you made playing poker?
I wouldn't have put him on a straight flush but I could've believed he had a bigger full house. No way I could've layed that down though. I would've definitely gone broke.
Great fold. Should have bet less than all in to get a call or a raise.
I simply am not capable of ever doing that.
8M para 46M
Por mucho Day 7 of Main Event no me parece buen fold
Si vas a valuebetear el river para luego fold a un raise2. 5 pues no lo valuebetees
World class fold.
he has the worst boat. no way he's folding QQ/JJ/QT/JT. still unbelievably impressive but i think if it was a better boat he's calling 100% of the time
Unreal laydown, I go broke here every. single. Time
The best poker players in the world can read players.... The best of the best can let it go when they think they are beat... I woulda lost everything on a snap call. Not ashamed to admit it.
Obviously at this stage in the main event is a very disciplinate and good fold but i think is way too easy that what it can seems to fold that full house.
The key of the hand is on the river; after a bet, a raise and a re reraise from obst and a call of ruane, a bet from ruane and a donk bet followed by a shove by ruane the thing is one: ruane's shove on the river CAN NOT BE EVER A BLUFF. So, which are hands that obst beat on the river for value? NOONE. Ruane flats preflop and a hand like AK clubs or QQ and JJ raise almost 100% preflop, he can't have 10's cause he's not raising on the flop and Q10 and J10 are not calling a 5.3 4bet on the flop. So onst call it correctly cause the only hand that has sense is exactly 98 of clubs. And the most important thing is that Obst can only beat a bluff. And ruane i repeat is NEVER SHOVING LIGHT and it can't have anything different of what he had with that kind of action on flop turn and river.
Lucky the river wasn’t a 7
Why in the world did he fold why the odds of getting a straight flush in 1 in a mill
That is a lay down !!!!
"You a smart mothafucka" -samuel l. Jackson
Don’t know why he called the turn to fold the river with a full house.