Does Mazda's quirky EV finally make sense now it's half price?

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  • Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
  • It's fair to say that the Mazda MX-30 has not really caught on as far as the UK electric car market is concerned. With a starting price from new of around £30,000, a real world range of 100 miles on a good day, and an unconventional rear door layout that compromises practicality, it was fairly easy to find fault with this particular EV.
    However, with prices of used models now at around £14,000 or less, is it time to start looking at the MX-30 in a new light? After all, it's still usefully roomier than rivals such as the BMW i3 and Honda e, it has a great interior, and it is really good to drive. In this CarGurus UK review, Vicky Parrott reacquaints herself with the electric Mazda to see how it stacks up as a used buy.
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  • @AHarker100
    @AHarker100 3 місяці тому +9

    We have one and it fits everyday needs. The grandchildren love the doors.

  • @newbeginnings8566
    @newbeginnings8566 3 місяці тому +7

    At these prices they will find buyers.... The original prices show how far off they were...

    • @JamaicanMeCrazy
      @JamaicanMeCrazy 3 місяці тому +1

      I still doubt it. That original MSRP is hilarious

    • @newbeginnings8566
      @newbeginnings8566 3 місяці тому +1

      @@JamaicanMeCrazy I'd buy one for short journeys but of course I'd have a ICE vehicle for the longer journeys, going on holiday, hauling a trailer etc. Original price was very, very optimistic,

    • @datathunderstorm
      @datathunderstorm 2 місяці тому

      These are perfect 2nd hand if you live in an ULEZ city and need to future proof yourself. Especially if your at that age where your kids have left home, you’ve got off road parking for a home charger and you no longer drive anywhere far anymore - you’d rather take a train or a bus. If you’re just a regular city commuter Joe like me, this is perfect. I really do not need a Tesla size battery in my car. I don’t actually like SUV’s but I do love Coupe’s and this IS a coupe! I don’t drive far, I never leave the city and I’m in the middle of an ULEZ city. Perfect for my needs. Even the insurance isn’t expensive - and it’s Japanese! Perfection 😊

  • @AndrewKNI
    @AndrewKNI 3 місяці тому +5

    A beautiful looking car. So stylish.

  • @sbsummit
    @sbsummit 3 місяці тому +1

    Great as a second car, but few people could live with that small range as their only car, because most people will need a long trip every once in a while - holidays, visiting family, etc. - and you really don't want to be forced to recharge twice or more on a journey from, say, London to Manchester

  • @michaelblue7852
    @michaelblue7852 3 місяці тому +5

    Interior looks so good.

  • @magnuslemhage1133
    @magnuslemhage1133 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for information...😃😃😃👍

  • @ikuturso7570
    @ikuturso7570 2 місяці тому

    Many of us do 95% of their driving so that 100 miles of range is enough. BUT for the 5% when you need 150, 200, 400... it gets extremely painfull with short range cars. And getting a loaner gets easily unpractical and so expensive that paying 10k more for decent range is the smart thing to do.

  • @Koulis_
    @Koulis_ 3 місяці тому +1

    The trouble with this car is it's too good for the size of the battery. It was a premium price for a car that should have been more basic for that battery size.
    When battery prices drop and EV production is increased it will become more economically viable for manufacturers to make smaller, cheaper EVs with smaller batteries.
    Also battery density will improve and the ranges will increase too.

  • @gregj7916
    @gregj7916 3 місяці тому

    Prices have not dropped in Australia…

  • @dwftube
    @dwftube 3 місяці тому

    Whats up with the sound?

  • @allendavid4139
    @allendavid4139 3 місяці тому +2

    In the States if you bought a new one the Mazda dealers would lend you a ICE car if you needed to do a long trip 😂 ,I believe the model has now been withdrawn from sale

  • @nikkipedro
    @nikkipedro 3 місяці тому +1

    What is the battery health on this. With a small 30kwh battery, presumably it would be charged often, I imagine the health and therefore the range is worse than new and still degrading.

  • @Nick-ct1ww
    @Nick-ct1ww 3 місяці тому +1

    Someone has lost a lot of money here. If it was initially sold on PCP its Guaranteed residual value must have been way more than its market value (and bear in mind the dealer selling this car is also making a profit on what he [aid for it) then presumably it must be the finance company making a huge loss on the PCP deal. Why are we not seeing huge losses crystallise in these finance company accounts? They will have to be accounted for at some point soon.

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 3 місяці тому +1

    Auto trader
    Tesla Model S
    75 Hatchback 5dr Electric Auto (315 bhp)
    52,793 miles2017 (67 reg)AutomaticElectric
    £16,990
    £442 per month (HP)

  • @bikeman123
    @bikeman123 3 місяці тому +1

    How would I check the battery state of health? Do I just hope its ok?

    • @bryanduncan6178
      @bryanduncan6178 3 місяці тому

      Ask the dealer to run a battery check....
      (as per the video!)

  • @robertlloyd7493
    @robertlloyd7493 3 місяці тому +6

    Still not tempted thanks

  • @JamaicanMeCrazy
    @JamaicanMeCrazy 3 місяці тому +1

    It does not. You just wait till that battery starts to degrade.

    • @jamesecroucher
      @jamesecroucher 3 місяці тому

      1.5% a year she says…

    • @JamaicanMeCrazy
      @JamaicanMeCrazy 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@jamesecroucherStill not convinced. On a really cold day you might just get 50 miles. Honestly I'd rather just get a used plug in. You'll get similar range in electric only then You can get 400 Miles if you want to go on a longer drive. Id only personally consider this at 7 or 8k

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 3 місяці тому

      Normal battery degradation runs at 2% per year, although it can slow after 4 or 5 years. I wouldn't imagine a battery pack refurbishment would be needed until the car was 10 to 12 years old. A battery pack refurbishment costs a fraction of replacing it, in the same way an engine recondition costs less than a replacement.

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 3 місяці тому +1

      @@jamesecroucher 2% per year is typical, although it slows once the car gets past 4 to 5 years old.

  • @MrKrugoval
    @MrKrugoval 3 місяці тому

    Please compare bmw i3 battery replacement price to mazda. Also please tell me how much does the carbon fiber body damage repair costs.

    • @jamesecroucher
      @jamesecroucher 3 місяці тому +2

      Try not crashing

    • @Harrythehun
      @Harrythehun 3 місяці тому

      Why? Are you interested in those?

    • @trevorsmith8487
      @trevorsmith8487 3 місяці тому +3

      I have a 7 year old 40k mile i3 REX, battery on 96% but not crashed so haven't had to repair. Ins quite high but amazing car, 120+Iles on electric with benefit of onboard generation for the few times a year I want to do long trip and not stop.
      Such a pity that REX didn't become mainstream and we're stuck with massive cars, on ridiculously large tyres, trying to claim unneeded silly ranges. and 0-60 bragging rights. Marketing works on us dum savages 😂

    • @jameschapman4824
      @jameschapman4824 3 місяці тому +1

      @@jamesecroucher Exactly what I was thinking LOL

    • @MrKrugoval
      @MrKrugoval 3 місяці тому +1

      I'm just saying that this car will have a much lower maintenance cost and the replacement battery costs 11k EUR, not 50k like BMW.

  • @barryw9473
    @barryw9473 3 місяці тому

    At 10,000 it starts to make sense.

  • @JackMelqart
    @JackMelqart 3 місяці тому

    the battery size/ range would not be an issue, if charging up 35KWh would take 3 minutes at the fast charger. but real world 100Km in good weather, with the current charge speeds, is simply absurd. especially these battterys lose capacity/range with the number of cycles (charged up drained charged up) so even if i could drive 3 days with it, the battery would need to be replaced really fast, and with the prices that the car makers asks for them is Absurdly high, its a stupid idea.
    you neeed at least 50KWh for a city car.

    • @aldish25
      @aldish25 2 місяці тому

      Its around 100miles, that's 160km. Charge speeds are fine,30 minutes at a fast charger is 80 % , how many people are actually doing a let's say 250-300 mile (400-480km) trip every month!? It's like 10% of all drivers. Battery degradation isn't a problem,e golfs with 35 kwh battery still holds 90% after 7 year's

  • @thebigcheese6606
    @thebigcheese6606 3 місяці тому

    I think the design more off putting. But for the price a great car.

  • @RyoHazuki911
    @RyoHazuki911 3 місяці тому +1

    Kona 64Kwh is a much better buy in this price range

  • @damianroddis4301
    @damianroddis4301 3 місяці тому

    Love the interior but that range is not good enough. Not even if using it locally

  • @gavinmellon9313
    @gavinmellon9313 3 місяці тому +1

    Just be prepared for a monumental shock when it's time to replace the battery. Hydrogen and synthetic fuels are the future.

  • @christophernoble6810
    @christophernoble6810 3 місяці тому +5

    No, too many negatives.

  • @prakashnarismulu3332
    @prakashnarismulu3332 3 місяці тому

    Mazda answer to the BMW i 3

  • @jameschapman4824
    @jameschapman4824 3 місяці тому +1

    IMHO this car is a waste of metal. The range is far to small for the majority of people. This car is aimed at the low mileage user however most of those live in the inner cities and don't have the chance to home charge so that will always become a faff.

  • @zlatanmorrison8182
    @zlatanmorrison8182 3 місяці тому

    Doesn't make sense at any price...unless it is free and even then... :)

  • @johnminshall242
    @johnminshall242 3 місяці тому +1

    Great potential from the front cabin, unfortunately then ruined by Mazda with those silly rear doors and a pathetic range. Shame… and hence the massive devaluation, as it won’t suit many users!
    This needs addressing as a new mk2 or just end production, like Honda did with the e. Even the latest REX version remains compromised.

  • @nickbull6603
    @nickbull6603 3 місяці тому +2

    2023 EV with 2017 range, what's not to love? And if you think maybe the rotary range extender might solve the problem, it doesn't. Had one for two weeks on hire, worst car I've ever had the displeasure of living with.

  • @philtaylor5444
    @philtaylor5444 3 місяці тому

    To expensive to buy charge and maintain

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 3 місяці тому

      My Kia eNiro costs me around £6 to £7 a week to charge at home, and a full charge does me around 230 miles. My last service cost me £68. Apart from the servicing, there has been no "maintenance" Remember, an EV has around 30 moving parts. An ICE car has thousands.

  • @S.J7777
    @S.J7777 3 місяці тому

    Lol 14k still too much

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 3 місяці тому

      Then maybe go for something like the 2016 Renault Zoe with 35k miles on it, I saw someone buy for £4400 a few weeks back.... A decent off-peak tariff, and you've got sub 2p per mile motoring.....

  • @user-yb7qj1hf9h
    @user-yb7qj1hf9h 3 місяці тому

    Excellent car, love the Lady! well it is valentine's day :-)

  • @f1b1777
    @f1b1777 3 місяці тому +5

    I suggest you watch Harry’s Garage 8/2/24 to Understand WHY prices are down is Not all about Range. you said the Environment I Suggest you All take a Look how batteries are made etc . You seem to forget Everything comes from the ground Fromm food to what you are wearing and that Fossil fuel Oil is Not just for cars as it makes and is in most our goods due to chemicals. Oh the other thing if we All go EV what powers the power station,UK is already in the 90%+ capacity.

    • @jonathantaylor1998
      @jonathantaylor1998 3 місяці тому +3

      Whilst there are a number of Harry's points that I actually do agree with - manufacturers should have focused more on EV efficiency rather than sating consumer's hunger for ever-bigger, resource-wasteful, inefficient show-off SUVs (of which Harry seems to be ever-so fond of) plus that the cost of public rapid charging is insanely high and really should be legislated for - there are simply huge inaccuracies in his ranting that need to be called out.
      Just for example, his "I've bought a diesel because the numbers stacked up" bit - freeze-frame the quotes and you'll see that the only reason his diesel is cheaper is because he put down an extra £5,000 deposit (equal to 25% more), plus the APR rate was almost halved from 9.9% down to about 5%... actually, the PHEV model had a BETTER residual value than the diesel (61% vs 57%) making a mockery of his argument about electrified cars having worse RVs.
      Finally, moving ICE cars to EVs was NOT about global warming but to do with reducing air pollution in our towns and cities - hence the ULEZs popping up all over the UK.
      His diesel Range Rover will continue to pump out high CO2, worsening the rapid increase in childhood respiratory illness see over recent years.
      Sorry, but Harry is a crochety old grumbler...!

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 3 місяці тому

      So where does oil come from? And the UK is not at 90% capacity. Nothing like it.

  • @forestdad
    @forestdad 3 місяці тому

    Its good that it’s comfortable inside as you’ll be sat in it for hours waiting for it to charge 😂

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 3 місяці тому +2

    Hello Vicky

  • @TG-pd3ft
    @TG-pd3ft 3 місяці тому +12

    Catastrophic losses for early buyers of EVs as they plummet in price as the true facts about their low range and lack of longevity become evident

    • @CptSpears007
      @CptSpears007 3 місяці тому +3

      That’s just what happens with early adopters

    • @Mancozeb100
      @Mancozeb100 3 місяці тому +1

      @@CptSpears007Exactly .. been an early adopter since the early 80s … 8-bit, 8MHz computers with 360k floppy drives and then 10Mb hard drives, with dialup to BBS at 3600baud (≈bps) - BBSs were before the internet! So .. point is - someone has to be foolish enough do the early adopting so that mainstream people can benefit later on. 🤷‍♂️

    • @northyorkshirechris5735
      @northyorkshirechris5735 3 місяці тому +2

      That’s the way for most new technology/products. A few years ago OLED TVs changed hands for £4000, they’re now £900 or less.

    • @bryanduncan6178
      @bryanduncan6178 3 місяці тому +4

      As the majority of car buyers in the UK PCP their cars, the battery longevity is irrelevant!

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 3 місяці тому

      Most don't buy, they *lease* so depreciation shocks aren't really felt by them....

  • @nevilleconnolly8938
    @nevilleconnolly8938 3 місяці тому

    What a load of nonsense!

    • @jamesecroucher
      @jamesecroucher 3 місяці тому +2

      You’ll not be saying that next time we’re all stuck in the middle of a fuel panic again and the folks driving these can just sail past the petrol station to plug them in and fill up at home!

    • @brianhume4743
      @brianhume4743 3 місяці тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @bikeman123
      @bikeman123 3 місяці тому +1

      @@jamesecroucher You wont be so smug when theres a power cut.

    • @bryanduncan6178
      @bryanduncan6178 3 місяці тому +2

      What powers a petrol station during your hypothetical power outage?! 🤦‍♀️

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 3 місяці тому +1

      @@bikeman123 Why will there be power cuts? How would you get petrol if there's a power cut?.