The Packers faced third-and-five in the final two minutes of the first half. They had three timeouts. They have a dependable tight end. They'd already coughed it up and turned it over on downs. They were driving. They needed at least three points, because the Vikes got the second-half kickoff. So what does Love do? He chucks the ball downfield into double coverage. He seems inclined toward hero-ball when it isn't required. MLF needs to change that.
If you go back and look at that exact play the deep safety ever so slightly breaks in to the inside receiver and then immediately changes course back outside to Melton. The look the safety gave made it seem melton would have a 1 on 1. With that being said, MLF doesn’t need to be calling 20 yard route trees on 3rd and 5. It was situationally a terrible play call. MLF did that a lot this game
@ we need to be better at getting smaller gains to open up bigger gains. A great example was the game versus Miami and Seattle. Check downs, jet sweep PA and quick pass screens.
Love has to take the check down passes quicker and stop trying to wait for the" big play" we got talented rbs...let them cook. Stop going thru progressions several times....throw it to that check down immediately and it will be a easy 3-5 yards if not a big play!
JA needs to go, hasn't contributed anything in the last two years. Green Bay loves to over pay older players that can't stay healthy! Thanks JA but see you later. Lots of DB'S in this draft.
One key thing Love could've done to help the team out before running out the pocket was to just......... move UP in the pocket🤦🏿. He either faded off his back foot OR he dropped back and sat in that one spot. It was a hard watch 😢💚💛 #GPG
There’s a lot of things Jordan love needs to improve at, pocket presence and movement is something he’s quite possibly the best in the league at. I don’t think that’s the issue.
He does tend to fade away and make throws harder for no reason but at the same time he does have some very good pocket movement other times but I agree with the video he would be so much more dangerous if he scrambled more. I think every qb who is even remotely athletic should add that to their game
I was thinking the same thing the past few games. Threatening and executing QB runs will be one of the strongest ways to get these defenses out of their bully man coverages. We also need to get away from the long developing plays on third downs for manageable yardage situations.
I think j love is being trained as a pocket passer. And I think him learning and building on that style of play extends his career and dominance. They did the same with mahomes. Mahomes is just as much a threat injured in the pocket now. Versus Caleb Williams who is over reliant on the run and can't read a defense.
My Packers should still be in rebuilding mode so this is all icing on the cake. This team will only be better and better the next few years and has a big window!
Jordan love absolutely is either saving his running for playoffs or he still has the injury in the back of his mind and either it’s prone to get hurt quicker because of how quick he came back to play that might be the reason why he’s still not running we probably are still seeing a 90% Jordan love
Personally I’d have Jordan Run selectively. Playoffs only be thinking 2-3 Runs adding latitude if he goes Divisional or beyond. Many of those runs are him avoiding a sack for a 1 yarder. So Jordan last year was in that 4.94 per carry. Which is actually very good at QB.
Jordan has been banged up all year he can pick up some of those plays with his legs yes but if the receivers catch the ball he doesn’t have to run. Let’s see how things go in the playoffs
You asked a question. The answer is in the last 8 games last season Jordan rushed 19 for 65 yards. He had 2 TD’s but also lost 3 Fumbles. He wasn’t very successful as a whole. It got worse in postseason he had 6 Runs for 2 yards. He fumbled but recovered by GB. I do think he can Run selectively. The first 9 games in 2023 he was much better. 9 games=31X172 yards with 2 TD. 5.5 carry. That’s exceptional
J love ran a official 4.7 40 yard dash and an unofficial 4.6 at the 2020 nfl combin. So he is more than fast enough to be a dual threat qb... I honestly said lafur should make a special package will Malik Willis... that dude can run the option or the pistol or wildcat.. what ever you wanna roll with...
Love needs a real #1 receiver. He drops back and his receivers if not schemed open take forever to get open. Go out and get a real true X in tee Higgins. All the elite QB’s have a number 1 threat and he’s got who, Jayden reed ? Leading the league in drops?
I don't know what is up with this offense. It gets shut out against the better teams but it feels like it comes down to Lafleurs play calling over anything else. I am screaming at my TV to "run a damn sceeen"😂 or "where the fuk r the good plays, like the tucker kraft late leak out" when we get to the 20 and become stupid for some reason.
That’s why Watson is so important, he’s the only true burner that we have to take the top off the defense, and that open up the offense even more for Jacobs, Reed & Doubs to get going which makes it easier for Love
It would be dumb to take many chances running in a Week 17 game that means almost nothing when the playoffs are so near. An injury to Love is far worse to the team than a loss
I wouldn’t say it’s meaningless. This would have been a big momentum win for the packers going into the playoffs. I think scrambling for a few yards and sliding would have been low risk
@ahastar1141 I actually think the loss helps them. If MIN gets the #1 Seed, that would have GB going to MIN in Round 2. It doubly works out if GB can raise to the 6 Seed and force a DET/PHI Round 2 matchup
@@jasonjanisewski78 I hear you, but if they were to end up the 7 if both they and Washington wins this week, Philly on the road would be a very tough starting match up. Nobody wants that match up, though maybe Washington could feel ok going into that. Losing makes getting to round 2 extremely difficult if they get stuck at 7. Just getting to that MN or Detroit match up would be tough If they had won, they’d have been 6 or maybe 5 looking at a TB, Atlanta, or rams match up in the wild card. I understand that in the grand scheme it didn’t matter much vs match ups, but I think having 5 losses to 3 teams you will see again in the playoffs is not a great vibe heading into the wild card.
All the top QBs make back breaking scambles for 1st downs in todays league. It weird thats not in his bag. I havent seen enough of Love to put him on that top tier with todays greats. I need to see him in the playoffs 1 more time.
I know everyone hates him now but that was something Rodgers was very good at. It does feel weird when you can see Love is bigger then Rodgers and he was watched him do it for enough time as well. I do think Love is talented but he playing sloppy at times in big games , I do wish The Packers would have grabbed Fields or even Lance just to see but get since Love was already signed. The post season will just come down to if he can pull it together or not , when playing good to great he does Give The Packers a legit shot.
Our game plan relies to much on big pass plays to score. This leads to boom or bust drives where we either score quickly with big plays or struggle to move the ball consistently. We need to utilize Kraft like Brady used Gronk and Mahomes uses Kelce. Like him or not even Brady asked why the Packers don't throw to Kraft more. "I've thrown to Gronk a thousand times". They were unstoppable. You don't need the fastest receiver in the league to score. Watson is injury prone and his speed will diminish over time. Ask Stafford who he targeted the most in SB LVI win. It was Cooper Kupp who was also SB MVP.
LaFleur diesn't want him running. He's too lanky and his speed is dubious, so he has him thinking safety valve pass with Jacobs or Kraft.... Hope to see a lot of Malik Willis out there Sunday😅
Against these good teams, it looks like the Packers struggle just to make simple plays. A drag route that should be easy 5-6 yards looks hard for them to do. But when those teams play the Packers defense, at times they make it look like one on one drills with no offensive or defensive lines..
I don’t know how vulnerable his knee is anymore. And no one is saying he should be power running like Lamar or Allen. And having a QB run when the lanes are open is different than a rushing attack. Not sure what’s “toxic”
@@jemmysmith8661 well he could do much better, like we saw towards the end of last season. This season our receivers keep dropping dimes from love. Yeah he is overpaid rn but I do think it will pay off in the future.
Jordan love playing scared I need him run more in the playoffs gain those 5 yards like last year playing Man U can run for 4 yards play with some aggression sometimes u get paid 55 mill be on time with your WRs number 1 play on time number 2 be accurate 3 play aggressive for the yards 4 stop holding on to the ball and stay in the pocket and throw and keep your feet square 5 stop throwing off the back foot and bouncing just plant and throw will accuracy
Can you stop being the analyst on top of the analyst you probly not even a Philly native born an raised like iam its a Philly tang but its good you ha love for my eagle's if you want to do yo own podcast cool but gi e us a break one thing us Philadelphia people k ow our sports we don't need your breakdowns like were kindagardners thanks fly eagles fly
Jordan love is TUA. A solid backup that makes good throws but will not win u big games or beat winning teams regularly. Jordan is horrific against good teams. There's ur karma green bay!!!!
Matt is hand cuff Jordan love. Matt is in love with the run game. He and shanahan sometimes get in way of passing game success.
The Packers faced third-and-five in the final two minutes of the first half. They had three timeouts. They have a dependable tight end. They'd already coughed it up and turned it over on downs. They were driving. They needed at least three points, because the Vikes got the second-half kickoff. So what does Love do? He chucks the ball downfield into double coverage. He seems inclined toward hero-ball when it isn't required. MLF needs to change that.
I doubt love called that play
it was definitely loves decision..if it was Watson or Reed i wouldn't mind..BO and love definitely don't have timing down
I agree!!!
If you go back and look at that exact play the deep safety ever so slightly breaks in to the inside receiver and then immediately changes course back outside to Melton. The look the safety gave made it seem melton would have a 1 on 1. With that being said, MLF doesn’t need to be calling 20 yard route trees on 3rd and 5. It was situationally a terrible play call. MLF did that a lot this game
@ we need to be better at getting smaller gains to open up bigger gains. A great example was the game versus Miami and Seattle. Check downs, jet sweep PA and quick pass screens.
Love has to take the check down passes quicker and stop trying to wait for the" big play" we got talented rbs...let them cook. Stop going thru progressions several times....throw it to that check down immediately and it will be a easy 3-5 yards if not a big play!
He did run against Detroit last year on a read option play. He usually would run it near the goal line. He did run it in college.
Malik is so good last time they put him in and he just came in and commanded a touchdown right away. I wonder if they should use them more
I think the Packers are nervous this would brew itself into a quarterback controversy…….😐
@@ddellwohe’s talking about Malik heath the wr
@@kodakuzii8655 - Ah - thanks…….😂
Packers will be one and done. No JA. Only going as far as D takes us
Exactly
JA needs to go, hasn't contributed anything in the last two years. Green Bay loves to over pay older players that can't stay healthy! Thanks JA but see you later. Lots of DB'S in this draft.
@northwisco68 ☹️
@@northwisco68na we can keep ja until we get another PROVEN CB to be for sure
One key thing Love could've done to help the team out before running out the pocket was to just......... move UP in the pocket🤦🏿. He either faded off his back foot OR he dropped back and sat in that one spot. It was a hard watch 😢💚💛 #GPG
There’s a lot of things Jordan love needs to improve at, pocket presence and movement is something he’s quite possibly the best in the league at. I don’t think that’s the issue.
He does tend to fade away and make throws harder for no reason but at the same time he does have some very good pocket movement other times but I agree with the video he would be so much more dangerous if he scrambled more. I think every qb who is even remotely athletic should add that to their game
@sakthithanigai5036 go back and look at the third down dropbacks, all im saying is moving up could've continued a few drives 🙏🏿
I was thinking the same thing the past few games. Threatening and executing QB runs will be one of the strongest ways to get these defenses out of their bully man coverages. We also need to get away from the long developing plays on third downs for manageable yardage situations.
I think j love is being trained as a pocket passer. And I think him learning and building on that style of play extends his career and dominance. They did the same with mahomes. Mahomes is just as much a threat injured in the pocket now. Versus Caleb Williams who is over reliant on the run and can't read a defense.
My Packers should still be in rebuilding mode so this is all icing on the cake. This team will only be better and better the next few years and has a big window!
I agree 👍 💯
Jordan love absolutely is either saving his running for playoffs or he still has the injury in the back of his mind and either it’s prone to get hurt quicker because of how quick he came back to play that might be the reason why he’s still not running we probably are still seeing a 90% Jordan love
Personally I’d have Jordan Run selectively. Playoffs only be thinking 2-3 Runs adding latitude if he goes Divisional or beyond. Many of those runs are him avoiding a sack for a 1 yarder. So Jordan last year was in that 4.94 per carry. Which is actually very good at QB.
Jordan has been banged up all year he can pick up some of those plays with his legs yes but if the receivers catch the ball he doesn’t have to run. Let’s see how things go in the playoffs
Love is saving running for post season just watch. Rather not risk injury
You asked a question. The answer is in the last 8 games last season Jordan rushed 19 for 65 yards. He had 2 TD’s but also lost 3 Fumbles. He wasn’t very successful as a whole. It got worse in postseason he had 6 Runs for 2 yards. He fumbled but recovered by GB. I do think he can Run selectively. The first 9 games in 2023 he was much better. 9 games=31X172 yards with 2 TD. 5.5 carry. That’s exceptional
Thank you for this! I appreciate it!
He wont cuz he was injured all yr. And has the arm talent to make any throw so he trust his arm 1st and foremost.
That’s why Malik Willis would be more beneficial for this GB offense with his good scrambling ability.
J love ran a official 4.7 40 yard dash and an unofficial 4.6 at the 2020 nfl combin. So he is more than fast enough to be a dual threat qb... I honestly said lafur should make a special package will Malik Willis... that dude can run the option or the pistol or wildcat.. what ever you wanna roll with...
Packers are just not better than vikings or lions this year it is what it is
I think Matt lefleur made some bad calls
Love needs a real #1 receiver. He drops back and his receivers if not schemed open take forever to get open. Go out and get a real true X in tee Higgins. All the elite QB’s have a number 1 threat and he’s got who, Jayden reed ? Leading the league in drops?
wicks in man coverage was the number 1 to get open idk what happens
I don't know what is up with this offense. It gets shut out against the better teams but it feels like it comes down to Lafleurs play calling over anything else. I am screaming at my TV to "run a damn sceeen"😂 or "where the fuk r the good plays, like the tucker kraft late leak out" when we get to the 20 and become stupid for some reason.
That’s why Watson is so important, he’s the only true burner that we have to take the top off the defense, and that open up the offense even more for Jacobs, Reed & Doubs to get going which makes it easier for Love
we have a WR1 and it's Doubs..noticed when he got involved in the end is when the offense finally caught fire...he has the best hands in the league
@ watson our 1 he plays his best we win
It would be dumb to take many chances running in a Week 17 game that means almost nothing when the playoffs are so near. An injury to Love is far worse to the team than a loss
I wouldn’t say it’s meaningless. This would have been a big momentum win for the packers going into the playoffs. I think scrambling for a few yards and sliding would have been low risk
@ahastar1141 I actually think the loss helps them. If MIN gets the #1 Seed, that would have GB going to MIN in Round 2. It doubly works out if GB can raise to the 6 Seed and force a DET/PHI Round 2 matchup
@@jasonjanisewski78 I hear you, but if they were to end up the 7 if both they and Washington wins this week, Philly on the road would be a very tough starting match up. Nobody wants that match up, though maybe Washington could feel ok going into that. Losing makes getting to round 2 extremely difficult if they get stuck at 7. Just getting to that MN or Detroit match up would be tough
If they had won, they’d have been 6 or maybe 5 looking at a TB, Atlanta, or rams match up in the wild card.
I understand that in the grand scheme it didn’t matter much vs match ups, but I think having 5 losses to 3 teams you will see again in the playoffs is not a great vibe heading into the wild card.
All the top QBs make back breaking scambles for 1st downs in todays league. It weird thats not in his bag. I havent seen enough of Love to put him on that top tier with todays greats. I need to see him in the playoffs 1 more time.
I know everyone hates him now but that was something Rodgers was very good at. It does feel weird when you can see Love is bigger then Rodgers and he was watched him do it for enough time as well. I do think Love is talented but he playing sloppy at times in big games , I do wish The Packers would have grabbed Fields or even Lance just to see but get since Love was already signed.
The post season will just come down to if he can pull it together or not , when playing good to great he does Give The Packers a legit shot.
I been saying this all year!!!! Why he don't run more. I see open spaces and he don't run. He rather throw the ball. I don't know he's scare or what
Our game plan relies to much on big pass plays to score. This leads to boom or bust drives where we either score quickly with big plays or struggle to move the ball consistently. We need to utilize Kraft like Brady used Gronk and Mahomes uses Kelce. Like him or not even Brady asked why the Packers don't throw to Kraft more. "I've thrown to Gronk a thousand times". They were unstoppable. You don't need the fastest receiver in the league to score. Watson is injury prone and his speed will diminish over time. Ask Stafford who he targeted the most in SB LVI win. It was Cooper Kupp who was also SB MVP.
Malik would run wild
He has not been scrambling…..
Dont know why people say Love can run. He doesnt. Almostlike he refuses to run.
I don't wanna see all recievers sprinting down field when there's consistent pressure. Or, yeah, fkn run
Play Malik Willis.
lol
LaFleur diesn't want him running. He's too lanky and his speed is dubious, so he has him thinking safety valve pass with Jacobs or Kraft....
Hope to see a lot of Malik Willis out there Sunday😅
Against these good teams, it looks like the Packers struggle just to make simple plays. A drag route that should be easy 5-6 yards looks hard for them to do. But when those teams play the Packers defense, at times they make it look like one on one drills with no offensive or defensive lines..
This is weird and toxic. He's got a vulnerable knee and four amazing studs to run the ball.
I don’t know how vulnerable his knee is anymore. And no one is saying he should be power running like Lamar or Allen. And having a QB run when the lanes are open is different than a rushing attack. Not sure what’s “toxic”
Sure. And sometimes the offense has passing plays. This is concerning that. So take your toxicity elsewhere.
Jordan love = dak 2.0
Definitely not lmao
@Gamerpro-bb6mw so.many similarities - like dak he can't win against even decent teams. Overpaid like dak
First round exit guaranteed.
@@jemmysmith8661 well he could do much better, like we saw towards the end of last season. This season our receivers keep dropping dimes from love. Yeah he is overpaid rn but I do think it will pay off in the future.
Funny 😮, no way eau.
He had an MCl Sprain/partial tear. That is the reason he isn't moving a lot I guarantee you
Did it take you a full year to recover?
@@Vic-u5c I had a full ACL Reco, so obviously not the same, but the confidence takes a while and I would bet he still has niggles with it.
Jordan love playing scared I need him run more in the playoffs gain those 5 yards like last year playing Man U can run for 4 yards play with some aggression sometimes u get paid 55 mill be on time with your WRs number 1 play on time number 2 be accurate 3 play aggressive for the yards 4 stop holding on to the ball and stay in the pocket and throw and keep your feet square 5 stop throwing off the back foot and bouncing just plant and throw will accuracy
Packers gonna beat the eagles in the wild card round to prove that they can beat good team.
He's not a runner not even in college look at stats. He's a gun slinger. He didn't run cause that's a minor part of his game.
Coaching
Playing soft to put Peeps on beatdoowj mode
Can you stop being the analyst on top of the analyst you probly not even a Philly native born an raised like iam its a Philly tang but its good you ha love for my eagle's if you want to do yo own podcast cool but gi e us a break one thing us Philadelphia people k ow our sports we don't need your breakdowns like were kindagardners thanks fly eagles fly
Jordan love is TUA. A solid backup that makes good throws but will not win u big games or beat winning teams regularly. Jordan is horrific against good teams. There's ur karma green bay!!!!
Jordan Love has already won a big playoff game 😂
Agree...he hasn't ran much..bullshit......win the game