I always If find the opinion of your wife very interesting to know because most of the friends I play boardgames are not as nerdy as me. it gives a good pespective from non nerdy people hahaha.
Ankh is good with 4-5 players, and the merge mechanism practically cuts it down by one for the last part of the game, which also shakes up the boardstate. This reduces the back-and-forth situations considerably.
Have been playing Ankh exclusively 2 player. Some 2 player scenario are better than other and some gods do well better than other depending on player count and scenario. 2 player makes it very deterministic and easier to calculate possible board state which is very chess like.
@@albertfajarito1 Good point! I do really like chess-like elements with the board state you mentioned. We didn't even talk about the various scenarios available in Ankh and we totally should have! Some of them are really cool and it's nice having the ability to change it up. Thanks for the comment! ✌
Ankh is more for the casual player? Compared to Khemet? Have you played each game only once each? That might also be connected to your weird claim than Ankhs Ankh powers don't matter.
No, we played each a fair amount of times. Have you even played either game? You haven't spelled "Kemet" correctly once! Just kidding! In all seriousness, that is just how it seems to me, I am by no means claiming to be the voice of authority on the issue. I am just some guy playing games in his garage with his wife. I appreciate your comments though! Stick around and keep us honest! 🤙
@@mikeysboardroom I have played both games many times. :-) Kemet grew an accidental additional "h" thanks to reading too many Ukrainian city names recently. ;-) :-( It's just that comments like Ankh is more for casual gamers than Kemet or the Ankh powers hardly count extremely confusing. The former is hard to quantify and might depend on your definitions of "casual", but the latter can easily be calculated to be objectively indefensible. Anyway, I immediately subscribed and liked because I'm always rooting for small new nice boardgame channels. :) Even if your claims about irrelevant Ankh powers are completely insane. ;-) (Half the reason for writing comments is to boost your engagement :-) ). Good luck and have fun
@@oerthling Thanks so much! Part of the problem is probably that, for better or worse, we do minimal preparation. Outside of a few notes to keep us on track, nothing is prepared and everything we say is just us on the fly having a conversation about the game which can lead to exaggerations and opinions that don't always hold up to scrutiny. Either way, thanks for the engagement and support! I always enjoy discussing differing opinions with people!
@@mikeysboardroom No worries and my pleasure. Every channel has its style. Some are meticulously scripted and others ad hoc. As long as you keep it fluent you'll be fine IMHO.
Blood Rage is one I haven't played yet. If we played with more people I would have been on that one already, but I have heard it's not so amazing with 2 players
I really like your videos in general, but I must say I was a bit disappointed with the art section of the video. As an Artist that was the part I was most excited about it, and it was very very repetitive, "colourful" "vibrant" "gritty x10times Xp I would have liked a bit more about the 2D art, the illustrations, Ankh for example have really detailed art, very dynamic poses in the miniatures (subject that wa slike 10 seconds) and a lot of detail of the clothes and a really cool concept behind their design of the Gods. I'm not that familiar with Kemet that's why I was quite curious to hear about strenghts in the art department. But for what I briefly saw Kemet's miniatures look a bit more static and less detailed, it would have been interesting to compare the components and the different art styles. Nevertheless keep up the good work, I found your channel a week ago and I'm already a fan
Thank you!! Art isn't usually something we look too in depth at, but I don't think that is a good thing. I think you're absolutely right, we should focus more on the art and talk about it more in depth, rather than just using those repetitive terms. I will definitely keep this in mind for future videos. Thanks again, I appreciate the feedback! Glad to have you here🤙
We played Kemet for the first time a couple of weeks ago and it also fell completely flat for the two women at the table. They hated it and were definitely glad when it was over. I thought it was okay but I wouldn't add the game to my own collection. I constantly had to hold myself back from overanalysing all the power-ups. There are so many power-ups to choose from that I could've spent quite a lot of time figuring out which to get but that would've slowed down the game considerably for the others.
The reasons you gave why Khemet becomes better at more players would be the exact same for Ankh at more players. It sounds like you liked Ankh at 2 so much that you assumed higher player count must be getting worse. But it doesn't. Sure, you loose some of the chess-like computability. But 3+ is also great with Ankh, just a bit different than with 2.
There were definitely some assumptions made when we were talking about player counts, but the general sentiment that I have found looking online and talking to people is that overall the game suffers as you add more players. Obviously just an opinion, all I really know is that I really like it at 2 players. Thanks again for your input! 👍
@@mikeysboardroom That's IMHO a misinterpretation of the comments. Yes, many players appreciate how well Ankh works for 2 players - especially because many other area control games are somewhat lame at 2. But there's nothing wrong with 3+ - except for players who like Ankh especially for it's chess-like state. And that gets shifted to more balance-weighing Gameplay - just like any other 3+ area control game. The increase in apparent "chaos" with increased player count is practically the same between Ankh and Kemet (and similar to all the others). Kemet at 2? I know exactly what you might buy and can make informed guesses what you will buy and can calculate how to react. And this "control" decreases with increased player count - same for Kemet and Ankh (and many others). The high rating for Ankh at 2 is because this is unusual and thus highly praised. And that raises the relative perception for Ankh at 2. But 3+ doesn't get diminished by that - just the relative perception shifts.
@@oerthling Gotcha 👍That is a really good explanation of the player counts! Thank you for writing all that out! In hindsight, I probably should not have even mentioned player count outside of 2 players since that was my experience with each game
The variability of powers in Khemet is greater and the focus of Khemet is more on the power tiles. But saying somebody without Ankh powers in Ankh could win over somebody who got them is crazy. Level 1 improves your follower economy. How do you win Plague with consistently less followers? Level 2 powers give strategic advantages. Without them it becomes harder to win battles and recover from them. But the final straw is level 3. Here devotion gain gets boosted directly. A player without them has no chance winning against somebody with them, unless the latter player is completely incompetent and does everything wrong.
Fair points. It may have been an overstatement to say the Ankh powers don't matter. They do not feel as powerful as many of the Kemet upgrades in my opinion, but they do provide benefits that help you win. Also that creature you unlock at the 3rd tier does feel very powerful. Thanks for your input!
@@mikeysboardroom i have not. Kemet is the only Matagot game I own. i'm starting to realize that i'm more into heavy euro games but it's nice to want to smash into your opponent every now and then (Kemet, Summoner Wars, Battlelore)
Imo Eric Lange trilogy is a really boring and horribly done rip-off. Kemet is Ankh without all the horrible parts like broken asymmetry powers that inspire 0 build difference, awful merge, and a lack of game covered up by minis. EL Trilogy is honestly just a bunch of pretty art and minis and 0 game. Baffles me that Blood Rage is so high on peoples lists. Lose one big battle and you instantly lost all advantage for the game.
I can totally see where you are coming from. I have not played Blood Rage yet, but the negatives I have heard about it, do sound pretty glaring. Thanks! 🤙
If she is not into the games better just leave her out of the video. It was mostly a monologue anyway and it is not fun to see someone completely uninterested and bored to hell.
Ha! I can't wait to show her this comment 😂 The whole reason we started this channel is to spend time together so I wouldn't dream of leaving her out of a video, but I will try to bore her less 😅
@@mikeysboardroom I think it is a great idea to spend more time together, but to me (and maybe I'm the only person with this opinion) it detracts from the informative content of the video having your partner looking she's just there waiting the filming to be over because she doesn't really care about these two games. He body language is very clear. I must also say you seem very invested and serious about your opinions of these two games which is great.
@@JLX5 I am sure you're not the only one! It is what it is, these are definitely not her types of games lol. Maybe I should keep a bag of chocolate chips out there and I can toss them to her when she starts to get bored 😄 In all seriousness, thank you for the constructive feedback and the kind words! We appreciate it 🤙
Awesome vid. Even with the obvious lean towards Ankh, you provided a fair comparison for each of the categories. Keep it up!
Thank you so much! I appreciate the kinds words!🤙
Love the dry erase board. I was like “wait..wth” Definitely got my attention
I wish I could take credit for that joke, but it is a classic Simpsons bit. Thanks for watching and commenting! 🤙
@@mikeysboardroom well you watched it and wrote it. So you deserve the credit. Love the channel btw
@@crushingit5128 Ha! Fair point! Thank you so much! We really appreciate the kinds words and support! 👍
I always If find the opinion of your wife very interesting to know because most of the friends I play boardgames are not as nerdy as me. it gives a good pespective from non nerdy people hahaha.
Hah! It is good to try and get a different perspective and she is not shy about sharing her opinion lol. Thanks for commenting! 🤙
I just barely had this internal struggle myself. Ended up going with Ankh. Game gets here Friday! Fingers crossed I didn't choose wrong.
Ankh is good with 4-5 players, and the merge mechanism practically cuts it down by one for the last part of the game, which also shakes up the boardstate. This reduces the back-and-forth situations considerably.
Excellent point and good to hear more thoughts on it. I just wish we had a regular group to play with. Thanks for the comment! 🤙
Have been playing Ankh exclusively 2 player. Some 2 player scenario are better than other and some gods do well better than other depending on player count and scenario. 2 player makes it very deterministic and easier to calculate possible board state which is very chess like.
@@albertfajarito1 Good point! I do really like chess-like elements with the board state you mentioned. We didn't even talk about the various scenarios available in Ankh and we totally should have! Some of them are really cool and it's nice having the ability to change it up. Thanks for the comment! ✌
Ankh is more for the casual player? Compared to Khemet?
Have you played each game only once each? That might also be connected to your weird claim than Ankhs Ankh powers don't matter.
No, we played each a fair amount of times. Have you even played either game? You haven't spelled "Kemet" correctly once! Just kidding! In all seriousness, that is just how it seems to me, I am by no means claiming to be the voice of authority on the issue. I am just some guy playing games in his garage with his wife. I appreciate your comments though! Stick around and keep us honest! 🤙
@@mikeysboardroom I have played both games many times. :-)
Kemet grew an accidental additional "h" thanks to reading too many Ukrainian city names recently. ;-) :-(
It's just that comments like Ankh is more for casual gamers than Kemet or the Ankh powers hardly count extremely confusing. The former is hard to quantify and might depend on your definitions of "casual", but the latter can easily be calculated to be objectively indefensible.
Anyway, I immediately subscribed and liked because I'm always rooting for small new nice boardgame channels. :)
Even if your claims about irrelevant Ankh powers are completely insane. ;-)
(Half the reason for writing comments is to boost your engagement :-) ).
Good luck and have fun
@@oerthling Thanks so much! Part of the problem is probably that, for better or worse, we do minimal preparation. Outside of a few notes to keep us on track, nothing is prepared and everything we say is just us on the fly having a conversation about the game which can lead to exaggerations and opinions that don't always hold up to scrutiny. Either way, thanks for the engagement and support! I always enjoy discussing differing opinions with people!
@@mikeysboardroom No worries and my pleasure.
Every channel has its style. Some are meticulously scripted and others ad hoc. As long as you keep it fluent you'll be fine IMHO.
@@oerthling Thanks again for the support and advice! You rock! 🤘
Kemet is my second favorite game ever! Losing only to Blood Rage hehe
Blood Rage is one I haven't played yet. If we played with more people I would have been on that one already, but I have heard it's not so amazing with 2 players
@@mikeysboardroom Yeah, 4 or 5.
@@OrdemDoGraveto I just need to find 2-3 people I can trick into thinking we are fun to be with, just long enough to play a few of the bigger games.
0:06 "Was I supposed to pull it?" lol given the white board :D
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Are you on BGG?
No not really. I should try to be more active there
Ankh has a lot more Euro elements from what I've heard.
I would agree with that. That is probably one of the reasons we liked it more than Kemet. Thanks! 🤙
I really like your videos in general, but I must say I was a bit disappointed with the art section of the video. As an Artist that was the part I was most excited about it, and it was very very repetitive, "colourful" "vibrant" "gritty x10times Xp I would have liked a bit more about the 2D art, the illustrations, Ankh for example have really detailed art, very dynamic poses in the miniatures (subject that wa slike 10 seconds) and a lot of detail of the clothes and a really cool concept behind their design of the Gods. I'm not that familiar with Kemet that's why I was quite curious to hear about strenghts in the art department. But for what I briefly saw Kemet's miniatures look a bit more static and less detailed, it would have been interesting to compare the components and the different art styles. Nevertheless keep up the good work, I found your channel a week ago and I'm already a fan
Thank you!! Art isn't usually something we look too in depth at, but I don't think that is a good thing. I think you're absolutely right, we should focus more on the art and talk about it more in depth, rather than just using those repetitive terms. I will definitely keep this in mind for future videos. Thanks again, I appreciate the feedback! Glad to have you here🤙
We played Kemet for the first time a couple of weeks ago and it also fell completely flat for the two women at the table. They hated it and were definitely glad when it was over.
I thought it was okay but I wouldn't add the game to my own collection. I constantly had to hold myself back from overanalysing all the power-ups. There are so many power-ups to choose from that I could've spent quite a lot of time figuring out which to get but that would've slowed down the game considerably for the others.
Completely agree with you. I am sure it can be a blast with the right group of people. Thanks for the comment 🤙
The reasons you gave why Khemet becomes better at more players would be the exact same for Ankh at more players.
It sounds like you liked Ankh at 2 so much that you assumed higher player count must be getting worse. But it doesn't. Sure, you loose some of the chess-like computability. But 3+ is also great with Ankh, just a bit different than with 2.
There were definitely some assumptions made when we were talking about player counts, but the general sentiment that I have found looking online and talking to people is that overall the game suffers as you add more players. Obviously just an opinion, all I really know is that I really like it at 2 players. Thanks again for your input! 👍
@@mikeysboardroom That's IMHO a misinterpretation of the comments. Yes, many players appreciate how well Ankh works for 2 players - especially because many other area control games are somewhat lame at 2.
But there's nothing wrong with 3+ - except for players who like Ankh especially for it's chess-like state. And that gets shifted to more balance-weighing Gameplay - just like any other 3+ area control game.
The increase in apparent "chaos" with increased player count is practically the same between Ankh and Kemet (and similar to all the others).
Kemet at 2? I know exactly what you might buy and can make informed guesses what you will buy and can calculate how to react. And this "control" decreases with increased player count - same for Kemet and Ankh (and many others).
The high rating for Ankh at 2 is because this is unusual and thus highly praised. And that raises the relative perception for Ankh at 2. But 3+ doesn't get diminished by that - just the relative perception shifts.
@@oerthling Gotcha 👍That is a really good explanation of the player counts! Thank you for writing all that out! In hindsight, I probably should not have even mentioned player count outside of 2 players since that was my experience with each game
The variability of powers in Khemet is greater and the focus of Khemet is more on the power tiles.
But saying somebody without Ankh powers in Ankh could win over somebody who got them is crazy. Level 1 improves your follower economy. How do you win Plague with consistently less followers? Level 2 powers give strategic advantages. Without them it becomes harder to win battles and recover from them.
But the final straw is level 3. Here devotion gain gets boosted directly. A player without them has no chance winning against somebody with them, unless the latter player is completely incompetent and does everything wrong.
Fair points. It may have been an overstatement to say the Ankh powers don't matter. They do not feel as powerful as many of the Kemet upgrades in my opinion, but they do provide benefits that help you win. Also that creature you unlock at the 3rd tier does feel very powerful. Thanks for your input!
i've only ever played kemet (which i love) but based on what i've seen on Ankh, i don't think i would like it
Yeah it seems like a lot of people have a heavy preference for one over the other. Did you back Yucatan since you love Kemet?
@@mikeysboardroom i have not. Kemet is the only Matagot game I own. i'm starting to realize that i'm more into heavy euro games but it's nice to want to smash into your opponent every now and then (Kemet, Summoner Wars, Battlelore)
@@mrbovinejoni569 We love Summoner Wars! Yeah I tend to gravitate towards euro games as well.
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Imo Eric Lange trilogy is a really boring and horribly done rip-off. Kemet is Ankh without all the horrible parts like broken asymmetry powers that inspire 0 build difference, awful merge, and a lack of game covered up by minis.
EL Trilogy is honestly just a bunch of pretty art and minis and 0 game. Baffles me that Blood Rage is so high on peoples lists. Lose one big battle and you instantly lost all advantage for the game.
I can totally see where you are coming from. I have not played Blood Rage yet, but the negatives I have heard about it, do sound pretty glaring. Thanks! 🤙
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If she is not into the games better just leave her out of the video. It was mostly a monologue anyway and it is not fun to see someone completely uninterested and bored to hell.
Ha! I can't wait to show her this comment 😂 The whole reason we started this channel is to spend time together so I wouldn't dream of leaving her out of a video, but I will try to bore her less 😅
@@mikeysboardroom I think it is a great idea to spend more time together, but to me (and maybe I'm the only person with this opinion) it detracts from the informative content of the video having your partner looking she's just there waiting the filming to be over because she doesn't really care about these two games. He body language is very clear. I must also say you seem very invested and serious about your opinions of these two games which is great.
@@JLX5 I am sure you're not the only one! It is what it is, these are definitely not her types of games lol. Maybe I should keep a bag of chocolate chips out there and I can toss them to her when she starts to get bored 😄 In all seriousness, thank you for the constructive feedback and the kind words! We appreciate it 🤙
I sub to the channel and enjoy your videos but i do think she tries to be funny by being overly negative or simplistic too often. It can get tiresome.
If she would interrupt less it would already be an improvement, she doesn't have to be interested just polite and show respect to you and us😂