I am SOOOOOOO glad somebody is finally mentioning this! There are so many reasons why it's better to shoot horizontally first, and coming from a graphic design background, it also works SO much better to have horizontal still images to start with (lots of cropping and layout options, and a lot of commercial photographers who know how to create images that look good with TEXT laid over top of them almost always shoot horizontally. You can actually look at the history of STOCK photography and see a lot of places stopped shooting vertical shots sometime back in the 90s, etc.)
That's for photography, makes sense. But for video? The channel for which you're creating the content should inform your choice on whether to shoot vertical or horizontal. I lose nothing by just rotating my camera and shooting, if it's for reels or stories.
@@NzeMwami Hi! Sorry if I made it sound like I believe everybody should only shoot horizontally...In my situation, I'd just want to shoot both (by using 2 cameras on 1 camera cage) because I'd like to be able to use the content to publish on the news, Netflix, and on other platforms as well, so "think big" is what I'm saying...because you never know when your story can be really helpful out there (and you'd hate it if it gets published and they have to put it on TV with blurry edges, on left and right, if you know what I'm saying)
He at the same time explain what are also the difficulties which are not complex but does not apply to everyone (begginers) like framing which I think it's obviously super super important
The psychology of your thinking is brilliant and really helped settle the anxiety I have between vertical vs. horizontal for me. Now I just need to train myself to not shoot so tight when I'm filming horizontal. That's gonna take a little time. Thanks for the video!
I feel that exactly same. I've been filming for years now but still stuggle at times. But I will say that I have always filmed Horizontal videos first. My struggle is trying to then make sure that my vertical videos still comes out beautifully.
This video is sooooo NECESSARY!! I recently recorded a video vertically and regretted it afterwards. I wanted to uploaded it to UA-cam, which I still can… it’s just that I wanted to keep it consistent with other uploads. Your tips were golden! And glad I came across it!
Makes sense if you are doing this professionally. But for a casual user, it's more time to edit, more skills to learn and larger files to store. I think that vertical videos are here to stay.
I hardly doubt vertical videos are here to stay. Phones are already trying to shift to a more squared resolution. And vertical video, if we take human biology in consideration, makes no sense since our eyes are aligned horizontally. The only reason vertical is trends nowadays is because of the way we hold our devices right now. I would bet in 20 years vertical videos will be mostly gone. Many resolutions have gone outdated in the past, this will only be another one.
@@unclebob8419 who knows... In a few years we may have gadgets like google glass returning and coming to the big crowd or even holographic images being displayed out of a new device. Hard to tell.
It might work but sometimes shooting vertical gives us more shallow depth of field in background, shooting horizontal means you have to get wide or step away and it will give you less depth.
(I posted this same information above) "This will also depend on which lens (and aperture) and camera (sensor size) you're using. With smaller sensors (especially a cell phone) you will struggle to be able to blur out the background because of the lens-sensor relationship (which is why the iPhone has "cinema mode" where it uses AI to find the edges and artificially blur the background. On larger sensor cameras, especially with wider aperture lenses, you have the option of creating background blur. It also depends on the focal length of the lens, i.e. longer/more TELEPHOTO lenses can generally blur the background more, but it's true that it means you'll have to be further from a subject to frame them horizontally...but I prefer to not be TOO close when framing a PERSON, because (especially with a WIDE ANGLE lens) it can cause distortion of their features (long arms, bigger nose, etc.)" However, I almost always shoot with 2 cameras (WIDE & TIGHT shots) at the same time so there isn't any issues with not getting the shot I need!
This is exactly why not shooting videos like you're an Island Twin is better. Because it keeps you guys from shooting everything with maximum *tOneH!*🤌
Shooting 4K vertically and rendering it to 1080 will get you wayy better image quality... plus more post-production possibilities. Yeah you can use shortcuts just to make it easier for yourself but it will always come with compromises🙏
horizontal always! the only time I go vertical is when I want that "raw cell phone" look or I know I'll cover the topic again in a more evergreen horizontal video 😌
For content I know will be delivered vertically only, I prefer shooting vertically. Makes my framing better when I shoot and know will be delivered vertically. One advantage you forgot to mention about shooting vertically for vertical delivery is that you get shallower depth of field - you move closer to your subject or zoom in more vs shooting from further away and cropping in. Don't get me wrong, most times I do shoot horizontal and crop for vertical, but if I know the content will only be used on Social, I just shoot vertical. It's simple.
Afraid I have to disagree (at least for some applications). If you’re shooting content for specifically a vertical output then I always find shooting vertical significantly better. It’s easier to frame and most importantly you don’t need an ultra wide angle lens to crop into a 9:16 from a horizontal image for a good frame. You also get the whole sensor for bokeh and any lens character you might want. But if you’re not sure the output or need mixed resolutions then 16:9 is best.
I am seeing it more for long form videos now too and I dont hate it. If your shooting a review in your bedroom and you dont have that glamorous booktubers bookcase etc and want people to listen to you and not explore/judge your living space then I think it works nicely. Or is that weird? @@milugar316
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if you shoot horizontally, you have to go a little further away from the subject to fit it in the Center of the frame. If the subject is further away from the camera, you have less blur in the background. This is the main downside of shooting horizontally. But please correct me if I’m wrong! I’m actually hoping to be wrong 😂
@@motheuser You clearly have no idea what he is talking about. Yes, you can step back, but it will affect bokeh and how it looks (background will be less blurry). Something to keep in mind when look of the shot is important.
I kinda thought this was bad advice, till you got to the future proofing your videos part, and that actually makes a ton of sense. Wish more camera companies used the whole sensor or 4:3 sensors to help with framing options for both 9:16 and 16:9. Great video as always.
Super pleased a video discussing this has been recommended to me! I get quite overwhelmed sometimes having to shoot in multiple different orientations just so I can get footage for my vlogs on UA-cam or reels on Instagram & Tiktok. It is nice to see that I can save time and reuse the same footage instead of redoing it vertically! :)
he shouldn't have. it's not that simple. if the camera can shoot 16:9 it's downsampling, which will result in a higher resolution than a crop. it's also taking benefit of the full lens, which helps with depth of field, bokeh, and other things that lenses offer around the edges
Good video. When shooting long videos, it is true that should not shoot horizontal videos, but when making short videos, usually shoot vertical videos.
Great video! I had a few thoughts throughout as someone who films about 50/50 vertical and horizontal. I feel like instead stating that people should stop shooting vertical video, it's better to state that videographers should stop shooting without intention. Film for the primary platform, and plan on doing some creative workshopping for the other orientation. If your end platform is vertical, film vertically in 4k. Just like how many filmmakers film in 4k horizontal and upload in HD, having that larger resolution to work with gives you a lot of flexibility in edits. Work with your clients and consider your platform/audience before shooting so you can plan and shoot with intention. Filming horizontally in 4K does give you a vertical frame that works in HD, but you lose the ability to zoom in without quality loss, which can be rough in edits considering you have to film wider to make the horizontal shot work for vertical framing. This method definitely works for your platform and purposes, but it doesn't apply to everyone. Vertical videos can be repurposed in just as many ways as a horizontal. So, if you find yourself needing to present your vertically filmed video in a horizontal format / platform, there are plenty of creative ways to crop, overlay, split screen, etc. footage to make it work. Just like how there are creative ways to use horizontal video in a vertical format. There's also a misconception that vertical videos can't be used for a website or portfolio - They absolutely can. Yes, you might have to restructure your website slightly but that doesn't make a huge impact. Additionally, if you're applying as a video producer or editor for anything media related that is not film or tv focused, a vertical reel will only show the that you're leaning into the popular viewing platform (a reel that showcases your work as a filmmaker will do so no matter the orientation). Vertical video likely isn't going anywhere - with phones and tablets being the primary media consumption device, vertical video is ideal for not only creators on insta/tiktok, but also any and all companies using those platforms for advertising. Media created for those platforms is instantly and easily repurposed for any social media app or web browser (LinkedIn, Facebook, etc.) It isn't replacing the horizontal space when it comes to film, tv, home entertainment - but that's also not where most consumer ads and casual content live these days.
Yes I absolutely agree with you. I just dont see why we have to support the dogma that 16:9 content is superior to vertical content. Both have their purpose and right to exist and neither of them is gonna get replaced by the other, nor is it just going to vanish.
Dudeeeeeeeeee I ❤this video! I work professionally and still have the battle of vertical vs horizontal, but everything you said just struck a chord and has cemented the idea of shooting horizontally! Thank you brother, keep up the AMAZING work
As a professional videographer, you have saved my content for future use. I was just about to start shooting vertical and as you said, you cant use them for UA-cam and portfolio.
I'm so happy someone else said what I've been saying for so long..👏. We don't know how much longer vertical videos will be in style and its not as professional as horizontal videos in my opinion plus once its done there's no really going back...😕... Thank you for the advice... awesome job.
I think your point about never being able to go back is SO important! Just imagine if people covered some of the most amazing events in history, as vertical video, and that video gets shown to people, with a blurred image behind it on the news, or in a documentary film, etc. I know for sure that if the only footage I had of important occasions in my life, such as my wedding day or kids growing up, or parents, or good friends, was only shot in vertical, I'd be sad I never got any "full screen" horizontal shots!😃😃
The real solution is just to organize yourself and be clear on what you want to use, be it horizontal or vertical video, editing your footage in 4k to just rescale it, platforms like tik tok or instagram reels do not allow you to post 4k footage they compress it, you end up with worse quality at the end, altough you could export your project in Full Hd instead, doesnt mean you wont have to do proxies or edit in a 4k workflow all to just end up using a full hd video lol . Let alone you will have troubles by framing your videos. Making the assumption that you will use the footage that you shoot horizontally on a vertical format you are still choosing what is in the center of the frame and excluding left and right size, lets say you did have the camera on 4k, the correct lens so you dont have troubles framing etc, you are still making the decision of using that footage on vertical mode, you are already going trough that desicion making anyway, why not focus on giving the best quality to your framing etc, for some projects it may be a good solution to try to shoot everything in horizontal but I dont think this apply to every short form content and wont last too long if you are planning to keep uploading in vertical formats.
This is so simple but smart! I always shoot vertical because I want to know what the framing will be, but your little thirds grid trick would come in handy for this reason! Awesome.
my guy, you just solved one of my biggest dilemma's I've been having. I wanted to start filming my side hustle for youtube and realized I may be better at shorter videos like Instagram and tik tok. I've been literally filming them in both with two different phone. It was sooooooo frustrating. This is the answer.
Thanks for the solid tips Anthony! I've been struggling to find ways to optimize my workflow between YT, TikTok, and IG Reels because I dreaded the idea of shooting twice. I'll definitely give this a try
I love the “full 4K UHD” … which is definitionally not a full 4K. But I’m just being a bit of a troll, and as a professional videographer for over a decade who has had to transition to TikTok’s and reels and shorts, I definitely had to go through this same learning curve with finding the right times to shoot 9x16 oriented videos 16x9 in camera. Good vid.
Not to mention you can actually achieve both vertical and horizontal frame COMPOSITIONS by shooting horizontally. You compose your shot in the middle third for vertical, then offset the subject to the side (unless it's a centered composition obviously) and compose for horizontal balance and negative space as well. And just like that, you have the peace of mind of being able to edit anything you shot horizontally knowing you have a perfect vertical version of each shot as well.
“Vertical” videos won’t ever go away. It’s here to stay. Better idea is to shoot portrait orientation when you need it. If you need portrait videos more than anything else then go for it but if it’s more for tv or non-mobile use then go with landscape orientation. If you want a happy medium then get a secondary person to shoot whatever else you need or use b-roll as your secondary option.
I just spent the rest of my afternoon trying to figure out what L-brackets or whatever solutions there are for shooting vertically on my Weebil-S, only to realise it won't even balance well with those. I'm done with it and have just decided on my vertical filming workflow for the coming times, because it all comes down to workflow, the way I see it. Let's keep it simple: If I shoot on a tripod or handheld, I will turn the camera vertically, because I can. This will allow me to use the full potential of my lens and sensor. Easy. If I shoot on my gimbal, I will leave the camera horizontal, because there's no money, time, nor patience that can justify the trouble of setting the camera vertically on my gimbal. I'm glad to say this video helped me make my decision, but I don't appreciate the partiality of it. I wouldn't say one way is better than the other or demand people to stop doing something for the sake of a catchy title. In the end both options are useful depending on the workflow you are going for and the equipment that you have. Also, I don't think vertical video will stop being important anytime soon, on the contrary, it's only proving to be more and more relevant. This doesn't mean that horizontal video will be rendered obsolete, I don't believe that either.
Nice video. And helpful. Was wavering between vertical / horizontal and your reasoning convinced me. With that said, I think vertical platforms will only go away when phones go away.
People complaining about how this is too much work just don’t get it. You guys can’t expect more output without putting in the work. Yeah, verticals are here to stay but crossposting is a huge deal for SERIOUS full time content creators. If you don’t want the hassle in post processing, then go ahead and shoot your videos twice in vertical and horizontal 😂 Anyway, great video Anthony! Really helpful.
Such an amazing tip! Never really thought about this because I always thought it would lose quality! Now I'm excited to shoot everything again horizontally!
I shoot 4K vertical for my other channel and it’s crispy. I think there’s to much to think about for most people. Even after 10 years of filming, I’ll still shoot vertical for social media when I can. Even when exported at 1080p it’s sooo much more crispy
The funny thing is, it's a lot easier to turn a phone sideways (horizontal) than it is to turn a 60" television or monitor vertical. So any video you shoot horizontally can be easily watched horizontally on either a phone or TV/monitor, whereas if you shoot vertical, it's really aimed at excluding the horizontal viewership. In the comments many people have noted that certain services (TikTok, Instagram) are aimed at vertical viewership, not because it serves the customer (aka "consumer," but you'll go farther in business if you think of the audience you serve as customers, not consumers), but because it suits their particular business model. As a customer, I'm more interested in supporting content creators (formerly known as "artists," but that accolade no longer applies to most content creators) who demonstrate interest in relating to their audience as humans, and not point-of-sale algorithms.
Great advice! Thank you. Instinctively, I knew horizontal was the way to go but the algorithms for reels was forcing the transition. Thank you for showing the way.
If you’re filming for two ratios at the same time, then you sacrifice creative control over your frame and are inclined to shoot things wider. This doesn’t necessarily work all the time. Honestly, having a 2nd cam op filming vertical with you is more productive for run-and-gun, or in studio you can rotate to vertical for a new take. This may be cheaper but it’s not necessarily THE way to do it
Read the video title and immediately guessed what your suggestion would be. :D I’ve done that, BUT I can guarantee that 9 times out of 10 I’ll frame the shot in a way that makes it useless in vertical orientation. So I just won’t take the risk. Yet. Maybe I’ll figure it out.
I switched my account like just right now because i was tired of all the vertical video suggestions, i got on my alternate account :’) it's sad, people are forgetting where the video content started from :”) That extra step to rotate our phone can bring in some non-generic and cool works, than all the more same shorts :’)❤️
It may be because it's a "content creatore" camera, but my Lumix G100 lets you overlay different aspect ratios, incuding portrait 9:16, which can help a lot with framing. Because the vertical resolution of 4k is actually slightly greater than 1920 (2160), it also gives you a little more wiggle room for adjusting framing, and you can also use keyframes in editinng software to follow subjects
this is the same way I thought it should be done, no better way to say it in video format thank you for this! Generation today still doesn't understand why horizontal is still the way to go.
Thanks for sharing! Yes! It's very easty to create vertical video for social media with Premiere Pro/Davinci Resolve/Final Cut Pro. I prefer shooting 4K full frame horizontal videos.
I shoot horizontally and then edit into vertical. If you shoot 4k it’s great and future proof footage. But still, sometimes I shoot 4k vertical as it allows me to zoom in 50 % in post. Great for retention style edits.
A really good point that the current fad of vertical video on some platforms may not last forever. Personally I hate vertical video; maybe it's partly because I don't use vertical video-based platforms much but I am so used to horizontal video - which is much more akin to how we see the world - that something filmed vertically seems "off" and makes me feel like I'm looking through a keyhole. Not sure if I'll ever get over this. I know others are much more comfortable with the vertical format but it amazes me that people aren't prepared to just rotate their phones for a more natural viewing experience. And the failure of some vertical-focused sites like Quibi indicates that the vertical look has still not caught on for higher-end content.
A positive aspect (heh heh) of shooting vertically is distance from subject. A given cropped horizontal framing requires you to be further away from the subject when compared to the same framing when shooting vertically. If you’re closer to the subject, you’re able to achieve a shallower depth of field (if that is something you’re into).
I like the idea, but I'm too precious about the character of the lenses I use to sacrifice the aesthetic for versatility. But great idea, might apply the mindset for certain projects. Cheers 💕
I made an error shooting most of mine vertical in 22. Came to do a showcase reel for my website. Struggled. Never shooting vertical again! Using the guides on the shinobi to shoot natively horizontal 👍
When you want to add an exact amount of light bleeding into a scene you have to shoot it in the final frame you’re gonna use it if not you don’t get the same effect
Great vid. But theres no guarantee Horizontal video will last forever either 😃 Mobile consumption is rocketing everywhere vs TV, film, cinema consumption which is all massively down
I really hope vertical videos came to an end. Its just an aweful trend! I have to do it a lot for my real estate productions so I can’t just crop the horizontal one. Its a struggle to balance the camera on the gimbal with the vertical adapter and it’s also way trickier to add stabilization in post, being vertical makes the AI clumsy. So I really pray for this trend to go away.
you are right 🤙am shooting Horizontally 4k with my fx3 you can play with it in editing without losing any quality, but good framing is must. great content dude keep it up ✌
Ya, I kinda screwed myself. I have loads of vertical DIY content I filmed before moving to UA-cam and I can’t refilm it or rework it bc obviously the project is already done. I’m going to try to rework it for UA-cam but bc of the nature of DIY I think it’s going to really annoy people to not be able to see horizontal footage detail.
The thing is , you loose so much resolution when cropping. And yes you can tell that for sure. Also mostly you know you will post that piece of content just on social media anyways, so I would decide beforehand where i will post and then shoot vertical or horizontal.
Thanks for this video! I used your tips and got some great shots (horizontal) from a recent snowboarding trip, but I was able to take some parts out and edit them into vertical clips for UA-cam shorts and one went a little viral!
I’ve been wanting to shoot horizontally so I could repurpose my content to diff platforms. Didn’t even dawn on me to use the grid lines to make sure that I’m in the middle frame. Duh! 😩
Which way do you shoot more often? Horizontal or Vertical?
I basically always shoot horizontal, but recently I have found myself experimenting with vertical too
Vertical bro
100% Horizontal - There is a reason why cinemas aren't 10 stores high, Vertical is only for complete... (redacted)😂
Been doing more vertical lately for Tiktok etc, but this seems solid.
Always horizontal. With humans having eyes side by side, it just makes sense. Also, less panning with horizontal.
I am SOOOOOOO glad somebody is finally mentioning this! There are so many reasons why it's better to shoot horizontally first, and coming from a graphic design background, it also works SO much better to have horizontal still images to start with (lots of cropping and layout options, and a lot of commercial photographers who know how to create images that look good with TEXT laid over top of them almost always shoot horizontally. You can actually look at the history of STOCK photography and see a lot of places stopped shooting vertical shots sometime back in the 90s, etc.)
LOVE this! I've also stopped shooting as many vertical photos! Maybe that's another video idea to make! :)
That's for photography, makes sense. But for video? The channel for which you're creating the content should inform your choice on whether to shoot vertical or horizontal. I lose nothing by just rotating my camera and shooting, if it's for reels or stories.
@@NzeMwami Hi! Sorry if I made it sound like I believe everybody should only shoot horizontally...In my situation, I'd just want to shoot both (by using 2 cameras on 1 camera cage) because I'd like to be able to use the content to publish on the news, Netflix, and on other platforms as well, so "think big" is what I'm saying...because you never know when your story can be really helpful out there (and you'd hate it if it gets published and they have to put it on TV with blurry edges, on left and right, if you know what I'm saying)
He at the same time explain what are also the difficulties which are not complex but does not apply to everyone (begginers) like framing which I think it's obviously super super important
what software do you use to crop horizontal video to vertical video?
The psychology of your thinking is brilliant and really helped settle the anxiety I have between vertical vs. horizontal for me. Now I just need to train myself to not shoot so tight when I'm filming horizontal. That's gonna take a little time. Thanks for the video!
It definitely requires some practice, and I definitely still mess up my framing! 😋
I feel that exactly same. I've been filming for years now but still stuggle at times. But I will say that I have always filmed Horizontal videos first. My struggle is trying to then make sure that my vertical videos still comes out beautifully.
This video is sooooo NECESSARY!! I recently recorded a video vertically and regretted it afterwards. I wanted to uploaded it to UA-cam, which I still can… it’s just that I wanted to keep it consistent with other uploads.
Your tips were golden! And glad I came across it!
Makes sense if you are doing this professionally. But for a casual user, it's more time to edit, more skills to learn and larger files to store. I think that vertical videos are here to stay.
This video isn't for the casuals. It's for people who create content
My thoughts exactly. This is way more work than necessary for the average influencer
I hardly doubt vertical videos are here to stay. Phones are already trying to shift to a more squared resolution. And vertical video, if we take human biology in consideration, makes no sense since our eyes are aligned horizontally. The only reason vertical is trends nowadays is because of the way we hold our devices right now. I would bet in 20 years vertical videos will be mostly gone. Many resolutions have gone outdated in the past, this will only be another one.
@@JunYouko For that to happen, phones are going to have to seriously changed. They haven't changed much in 10 years.
@@unclebob8419 who knows... In a few years we may have gadgets like google glass returning and coming to the big crowd or even holographic images being displayed out of a new device. Hard to tell.
It might work but sometimes shooting vertical gives us more shallow depth of field in background, shooting horizontal means you have to get wide or step away and it will give you less depth.
(I posted this same information above) "This will also depend on which lens (and aperture) and camera (sensor size) you're using. With smaller sensors (especially a cell phone) you will struggle to be able to blur out the background because of the lens-sensor relationship (which is why the iPhone has "cinema mode" where it uses AI to find the edges and artificially blur the background. On larger sensor cameras, especially with wider aperture lenses, you have the option of creating background blur. It also depends on the focal length of the lens, i.e. longer/more TELEPHOTO lenses can generally blur the background more, but it's true that it means you'll have to be further from a subject to frame them horizontally...but I prefer to not be TOO close when framing a PERSON, because (especially with a WIDE ANGLE lens) it can cause distortion of their features (long arms, bigger nose, etc.)" However, I almost always shoot with 2 cameras (WIDE & TIGHT shots) at the same time so there isn't any issues with not getting the shot I need!
This is exactly why not shooting videos like you're an Island Twin is better.
Because it keeps you guys from shooting everything with maximum *tOneH!*🤌
Shooting 4K vertically and rendering it to 1080 will get you wayy better image quality... plus more post-production possibilities. Yeah you can use shortcuts just to make it easier for yourself but it will always come with compromises🙏
how do you render it at 1080p?
@@latenightliftingexport it in 1080p
@@latenightliftinghave you tried googling your question?
horizontal always! the only time I go vertical is when I want that "raw cell phone" look or I know I'll cover the topic again in a more evergreen horizontal video 😌
Great take! Thanks for sharing!
For content I know will be delivered vertically only, I prefer shooting vertically. Makes my framing better when I shoot and know will be delivered vertically. One advantage you forgot to mention about shooting vertically for vertical delivery is that you get shallower depth of field - you move closer to your subject or zoom in more vs shooting from further away and cropping in. Don't get me wrong, most times I do shoot horizontal and crop for vertical, but if I know the content will only be used on Social, I just shoot vertical. It's simple.
Afraid I have to disagree (at least for some applications). If you’re shooting content for specifically a vertical output then I always find shooting vertical significantly better. It’s easier to frame and most importantly you don’t need an ultra wide angle lens to crop into a 9:16 from a horizontal image for a good frame. You also get the whole sensor for bokeh and any lens character you might want. But if you’re not sure the output or need mixed resolutions then 16:9 is best.
Agree with you. There is a lot people earning money from tik tok or Instagram and now UA-cam short. Vertical formal seems to be the new standard.
I am seeing it more for long form videos now too and I dont hate it. If your shooting a review in your bedroom and you dont have that glamorous booktubers bookcase etc and want people to listen to you and not explore/judge your living space then I think it works nicely. Or is that weird? @@milugar316
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if you shoot horizontally, you have to go a little further away from the subject to fit it in the Center of the frame. If the subject is further away from the camera, you have less blur in the background.
This is the main downside of shooting horizontally.
But please correct me if I’m wrong! I’m actually hoping to be wrong 😂
Unfortunately you are right
Yeah this was just a video to be made for the sake of a video cause honestly its just extra work that could be done correctly the first time.
That's a fair point.
So? Walk backwards then. Is it hard? It's only a problem if you're shooting in your house with less space.
@@motheuser You clearly have no idea what he is talking about. Yes, you can step back, but it will affect bokeh and how it looks (background will be less blurry). Something to keep in mind when look of the shot is important.
I kinda thought this was bad advice, till you got to the future proofing your videos part, and that actually makes a ton of sense. Wish more camera companies used the whole sensor or 4:3 sensors to help with framing options for both 9:16 and 16:9. Great video as always.
YES! I believe it's called Open Gate, some cameras have the ability to use the full sensor, but not very many!
Super pleased a video discussing this has been recommended to me! I get quite overwhelmed sometimes having to shoot in multiple different orientations just so I can get footage for my vlogs on UA-cam or reels on Instagram & Tiktok. It is nice to see that I can save time and reuse the same footage instead of redoing it vertically! :)
You actually convinced me to shoot my content horizontally from now on!
Same 😂
he shouldn't have. it's not that simple. if the camera can shoot 16:9 it's downsampling, which will result in a higher resolution than a crop. it's also taking benefit of the full lens, which helps with depth of field, bokeh, and other things that lenses offer around the edges
@@zacki5663i agree …. I think it’s a hassle shooting everything horizontal JUST TO CROP OUT WHAT YOU DNT NEED LATER
Good video. When shooting long videos, it is true that should not shoot horizontal videos, but when making short videos, usually shoot vertical videos.
Damn I love the editing of this video. The way you switch locations between shots is phenomenal 👍🏻
It's been such a pain in the ass shooting vertical lately - especially with the USB cord going to the monitor. Think I'll give this a try!
Great video! I had a few thoughts throughout as someone who films about 50/50 vertical and horizontal. I feel like instead stating that people should stop shooting vertical video, it's better to state that videographers should stop shooting without intention. Film for the primary platform, and plan on doing some creative workshopping for the other orientation.
If your end platform is vertical, film vertically in 4k. Just like how many filmmakers film in 4k horizontal and upload in HD, having that larger resolution to work with gives you a lot of flexibility in edits. Work with your clients and consider your platform/audience before shooting so you can plan and shoot with intention. Filming horizontally in 4K does give you a vertical frame that works in HD, but you lose the ability to zoom in without quality loss, which can be rough in edits considering you have to film wider to make the horizontal shot work for vertical framing. This method definitely works for your platform and purposes, but it doesn't apply to everyone.
Vertical videos can be repurposed in just as many ways as a horizontal. So, if you find yourself needing to present your vertically filmed video in a horizontal format / platform, there are plenty of creative ways to crop, overlay, split screen, etc. footage to make it work. Just like how there are creative ways to use horizontal video in a vertical format. There's also a misconception that vertical videos can't be used for a website or portfolio - They absolutely can. Yes, you might have to restructure your website slightly but that doesn't make a huge impact. Additionally, if you're applying as a video producer or editor for anything media related that is not film or tv focused, a vertical reel will only show the that you're leaning into the popular viewing platform (a reel that showcases your work as a filmmaker will do so no matter the orientation).
Vertical video likely isn't going anywhere - with phones and tablets being the primary media consumption device, vertical video is ideal for not only creators on insta/tiktok, but also any and all companies using those platforms for advertising. Media created for those platforms is instantly and easily repurposed for any social media app or web browser (LinkedIn, Facebook, etc.) It isn't replacing the horizontal space when it comes to film, tv, home entertainment - but that's also not where most consumer ads and casual content live these days.
Yes I absolutely agree with you. I just dont see why we have to support the dogma that 16:9 content is superior to vertical content. Both have their purpose and right to exist and neither of them is gonna get replaced by the other, nor is it just going to vanish.
Dudeeeeeeeeee I ❤this video! I work professionally and still have the battle of vertical vs horizontal, but everything you said just struck a chord and has cemented the idea of shooting horizontally! Thank you brother, keep up the AMAZING work
But what if you can only shoot 1080p - do you stick to vertical or can you get away with horizontal and follow your suggestion?
As a professional videographer, you have saved my content for future use. I was just about to start shooting vertical and as you said, you cant use them for UA-cam and portfolio.
I'm so happy someone else said what I've been saying for so long..👏. We don't know how much longer vertical videos will be in style and its not as professional as horizontal videos in my opinion plus once its done there's no really going back...😕... Thank you for the advice... awesome job.
I think your point about never being able to go back is SO important! Just imagine if people covered some of the most amazing events in history, as vertical video, and that video gets shown to people, with a blurred image behind it on the news, or in a documentary film, etc. I know for sure that if the only footage I had of important occasions in my life, such as my wedding day or kids growing up, or parents, or good friends, was only shot in vertical, I'd be sad I never got any "full screen" horizontal shots!😃😃
The real solution is just to organize yourself and be clear on what you want to use, be it horizontal or vertical video, editing your footage in 4k to just rescale it, platforms like tik tok or instagram reels do not allow you to post 4k footage they compress it, you end up with worse quality at the end, altough you could export your project in Full Hd instead, doesnt mean you wont have to do proxies or edit in a 4k workflow all to just end up using a full hd video lol .
Let alone you will have troubles by framing your videos. Making the assumption that you will use the footage that you shoot horizontally on a vertical format you are still choosing what is in the center of the frame and excluding left and right size, lets say you did have the camera on 4k, the correct lens so you dont have troubles framing etc, you are still making the decision of using that footage on vertical mode, you are already going trough that desicion making anyway, why not focus on giving the best quality to your framing etc, for some projects it may be a good solution to try to shoot everything in horizontal but I dont think this apply to every short form content and wont last too long if you are planning to keep uploading in vertical formats.
I’ve spent the last 15-20 years training myself to film horizontally. Been struggling to film vertically because now it just feels wrong lol
I feel the sane way I hate vertical
Vertical video is just wrong. Look up Vertical Video Syndrome. ua-cam.com/video/dechvhb0Meo/v-deo.html
This helped so much! Vertical setup on a tripod is a disaster for me. Way less effort and risk to crop it later.
It's not work for me, I use apsc camera, If I do that I'll lose depth of field and image quality
This is so simple but smart! I always shoot vertical because I want to know what the framing will be, but your little thirds grid trick would come in handy for this reason! Awesome.
Bonus tip, get a camera with a 4:3 sensor and shoot have even more room to play with! (GH5 can do this)
i like that you explain WHY. I just wished that you also showed us the how in one video.
i shot all my videos upside down. Because why not. I'm starting anew trend and i want to be a first adopter.
my guy, you just solved one of my biggest dilemma's I've been having. I wanted to start filming my side hustle for youtube and realized I may be better at shorter videos like Instagram and tik tok. I've been literally filming them in both with two different phone. It was sooooooo frustrating. This is the answer.
Thanks for the solid tips Anthony! I've been struggling to find ways to optimize my workflow between YT, TikTok, and IG Reels because I dreaded the idea of shooting twice. I'll definitely give this a try
I love the “full 4K UHD” … which is definitionally not a full 4K. But I’m just being a bit of a troll, and as a professional videographer for over a decade who has had to transition to TikTok’s and reels and shorts, I definitely had to go through this same learning curve with finding the right times to shoot 9x16 oriented videos 16x9 in camera. Good vid.
This is one of those videos straight to point and logical
Not to mention you can actually achieve both vertical and horizontal frame COMPOSITIONS by shooting horizontally. You compose your shot in the middle third for vertical, then offset the subject to the side (unless it's a centered composition obviously) and compose for horizontal balance and negative space as well. And just like that, you have the peace of mind of being able to edit anything you shot horizontally knowing you have a perfect vertical version of each shot as well.
Funny thing is I just told myself a few days ago that I was going to do this and then this video popped up in my feed 😅 Great advice 👏🏾
“Vertical” videos won’t ever go away. It’s here to stay. Better idea is to shoot portrait orientation when you need it. If you need portrait videos more than anything else then go for it but if it’s more for tv or non-mobile use then go with landscape orientation. If you want a happy medium then get a secondary person to shoot whatever else you need or use b-roll as your secondary option.
exactly. Horizontal is dead.
I just spent the rest of my afternoon trying to figure out what L-brackets or whatever solutions there are for shooting vertically on my Weebil-S, only to realise it won't even balance well with those. I'm done with it and have just decided on my vertical filming workflow for the coming times, because it all comes down to workflow, the way I see it.
Let's keep it simple:
If I shoot on a tripod or handheld, I will turn the camera vertically, because I can. This will allow me to use the full potential of my lens and sensor. Easy.
If I shoot on my gimbal, I will leave the camera horizontal, because there's no money, time, nor patience that can justify the trouble of setting the camera vertically on my gimbal.
I'm glad to say this video helped me make my decision, but I don't appreciate the partiality of it. I wouldn't say one way is better than the other or demand people to stop doing something for the sake of a catchy title. In the end both options are useful depending on the workflow you are going for and the equipment that you have.
Also, I don't think vertical video will stop being important anytime soon, on the contrary, it's only proving to be more and more relevant. This doesn't mean that horizontal video will be rendered obsolete, I don't believe that either.
the cool part of doing it horizontal is one can make "travel" shots when editing for more dynamic post production.
Nice video. And helpful. Was wavering between vertical / horizontal and your reasoning convinced me. With that said, I think vertical platforms will only go away when phones go away.
Found you on TikTok, your content is amazing! I’m super guilty of shooting vertical but you’ve changed my mind
THAT THIRDS THING IS SUCH A SIMPLE SOLUTION AAAAAAHHH THANK YOOOOU SUBBED
People complaining about how this is too much work just don’t get it. You guys can’t expect more output without putting in the work. Yeah, verticals are here to stay but crossposting is a huge deal for SERIOUS full time content creators. If you don’t want the hassle in post processing, then go ahead and shoot your videos twice in vertical and horizontal 😂 Anyway, great video Anthony! Really helpful.
Such an amazing tip! Never really thought about this because I always thought it would lose quality! Now I'm excited to shoot everything again horizontally!
This answered the question that's been running around my head for a week. Very informative. I love it, thanks a lot for this.
I shoot 4K vertical for my other channel and it’s crispy. I think there’s to much to think about for most people. Even after 10 years of filming, I’ll still shoot vertical for social media when I can. Even when exported at 1080p it’s sooo much more crispy
You’re quickly becoming my favorite youtuber. You always have the best, most practical tips!
Finally someone who is talking about it! I thought I was falling behind for not shooting vertical
This is great advice!! Maybe a wide angle lens can also do a little help too
The funny thing is, it's a lot easier to turn a phone sideways (horizontal) than it is to turn a 60" television or monitor vertical. So any video you shoot horizontally can be easily watched horizontally on either a phone or TV/monitor, whereas if you shoot vertical, it's really aimed at excluding the horizontal viewership. In the comments many people have noted that certain services (TikTok, Instagram) are aimed at vertical viewership, not because it serves the customer (aka "consumer," but you'll go farther in business if you think of the audience you serve as customers, not consumers), but because it suits their particular business model. As a customer, I'm more interested in supporting content creators (formerly known as "artists," but that accolade no longer applies to most content creators) who demonstrate interest in relating to their audience as humans, and not point-of-sale algorithms.
Woooaahhhhhh...so much information in a short time. That's what we are missing these days. Really appreciate you for this.
I have no idea how I came across this video but I am so so glad!
Great advice! Thank you. Instinctively, I knew horizontal was the way to go but the algorithms for reels was forcing the transition. Thank you for showing the way.
Let's be honest, the vertical videos are here to stay.
And then
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VR
Nah I believe not, It would be sad not to
@@JosueRodriguez08 VR is cool, but people with lazy eye and motion sickness like me won't be able to use it, so it's not going to be a "main thing".
@rajathyagaraj1061 Nobody is talking about movies here.
We are talking about the format itself.
@rajathyagaraj1061 We are not talking about the filming standard...
We are talking about the format if it stays or disappears.
If you’re filming for two ratios at the same time, then you sacrifice creative control over your frame and are inclined to shoot things wider. This doesn’t necessarily work all the time. Honestly, having a 2nd cam op filming vertical with you is more productive for run-and-gun, or in studio you can rotate to vertical for a new take. This may be cheaper but it’s not necessarily THE way to do it
Read the video title and immediately guessed what your suggestion would be. :D I’ve done that, BUT I can guarantee that 9 times out of 10 I’ll frame the shot in a way that makes it useless in vertical orientation. So I just won’t take the risk. Yet. Maybe I’ll figure it out.
I switched my account like just right now because i was tired of all the vertical video suggestions, i got on my alternate account :’) it's sad, people are forgetting where the video content started from :”)
That extra step to rotate our phone can bring in some non-generic and cool works, than all the more same shorts :’)❤️
It may be because it's a "content creatore" camera, but my Lumix G100 lets you overlay different aspect ratios, incuding portrait 9:16, which can help a lot with framing. Because the vertical resolution of 4k is actually slightly greater than 1920 (2160), it also gives you a little more wiggle room for adjusting framing, and you can also use keyframes in editinng software to follow subjects
this is the same way I thought it should be done, no better way to say it in video format thank you for this! Generation today still doesn't understand why horizontal is still the way to go.
Makes me appreciate Open Gate on my GH6 even more.🙂
Finally - on so many levels . . . great presentation, wonderful knowledge, stupendous content, fabulous applications . . . THANK YOU!
Thanks for sharing! Yes! It's very easty to create vertical video for social media with Premiere Pro/Davinci Resolve/Final Cut Pro. I prefer shooting 4K full frame horizontal videos.
I shoot horizontally and then edit into vertical. If you shoot 4k it’s great and future proof footage. But still, sometimes I shoot 4k vertical as it allows me to zoom in 50 % in post. Great for retention style edits.
A really good point that the current fad of vertical video on some platforms may not last forever. Personally I hate vertical video; maybe it's partly because I don't use vertical video-based platforms much but I am so used to horizontal video - which is much more akin to how we see the world - that something filmed vertically seems "off" and makes me feel like I'm looking through a keyhole. Not sure if I'll ever get over this. I know others are much more comfortable with the vertical format but it amazes me that people aren't prepared to just rotate their phones for a more natural viewing experience. And the failure of some vertical-focused sites like Quibi indicates that the vertical look has still not caught on for higher-end content.
I did struggle to find this answer and you just gave me the answer in the best way! Great job 👏
Using the grid is a really good idea.
A positive aspect (heh heh) of shooting vertically is distance from subject. A given cropped horizontal framing requires you to be further away from the subject when compared to the same framing when shooting vertically. If you’re closer to the subject, you’re able to achieve a shallower depth of field (if that is something you’re into).
Agree with the decision fatigue factor.. thanks for this!
I like the idea, but I'm too precious about the character of the lenses I use to sacrifice the aesthetic for versatility. But great idea, might apply the mindset for certain projects. Cheers 💕
Great video, nice explanation of this and the examples were spot on.
So true. It makes totally sense!
I made an error shooting most of mine vertical in 22. Came to do a showcase reel for my website. Struggled. Never shooting vertical again! Using the guides on the shinobi to shoot natively horizontal 👍
Great work man, some good ideas and tips
This was really help, I was trying to find a way to make youtube video and repurpose them for TikTok. thank you
How is it that your audio inside and outside is so equal and perfect?
Being able to exactly see how you want to frame something is more important than all these things for me.
This is fantastic. Thank you for explaining this!! I'm sold on horizontal now.
Epic. Every client should see this.
Usually i shoot horizontal 1080, when i need flexibility i just go square and 4k or go with your method with a crop later on.
TOTALLY AGREE!!! great video, hope newcomers undersand this!!
What about if you film on an iPhone? Should you still do this?
Nice hints. Thanks a lot and all the best for 2023, Daniel
When you want to add an exact amount of light bleeding into a scene you have to shoot it in the final frame you’re gonna use it if not you don’t get the same effect
Great vid. But theres no guarantee Horizontal video will last forever either 😃 Mobile consumption is rocketing everywhere vs TV, film, cinema consumption which is all massively down
I really appreciate the insight on this video, thank you, good job 🙌
I really hope vertical videos came to an end. Its just an aweful trend! I have to do it a lot for my real estate productions so I can’t just crop the horizontal one. Its a struggle to balance the camera on the gimbal with the vertical adapter and it’s also way trickier to add stabilization in post, being vertical makes the AI clumsy. So I really pray for this trend to go away.
you are right 🤙am shooting Horizontally 4k with my fx3 you can play with it in editing without losing any quality, but good framing is must. great content dude keep it up ✌
Ya, I kinda screwed myself. I have loads of vertical DIY content I filmed before moving to UA-cam and I can’t refilm it or rework it bc obviously the project is already done. I’m going to try to rework it for UA-cam but bc of the nature of DIY I think it’s going to really annoy people to not be able to see horizontal footage detail.
That's normally how I shot but when on the go and don't have time to edit, I have to record vertically.
YES! Someone's finally talking about this! Thank you!
The thing is , you loose so much resolution when cropping. And yes you can tell that for sure. Also mostly you know you will post that piece of content just on social media anyways, so I would decide beforehand where i will post and then shoot vertical or horizontal.
Great video & content brother! This was extremely helpful. Keep putting out the Amazing content!
Yoo 😮🔥🙌🏾 U were in my head !
Great content ⚡️
The GoPro HERO11 is amazing for this, as it shoots 5.3K in an 8:7 ratio - so much data for vertical and horizontal edits
For UA-cam shorts, if people were willing to edit or crop, they could also do 1080x1080 instead of 1080x1920.
Thanks for this video! I used your tips and got some great shots (horizontal) from a recent snowboarding trip, but I was able to take some parts out and edit them into vertical clips for UA-cam shorts and one went a little viral!
But how did you capture this clean audio outside?
I'm battling to use Horz or Verz. After watching your YT Video, it's a sacrilege to use Horz... 😁
This helps. Thanks, man.
The thirds grid? This advice is amazing
I’ve been wanting to shoot horizontally so I could repurpose my content to diff platforms. Didn’t even dawn on me to use the grid lines to make sure that I’m in the middle frame. Duh! 😩