@Kimchiman00 I can't. I played the last event, and have three of her eidolons, but I didn't get her for whatever reason. Unless I missed something, it's probably because I'm just not far enough in the story, straight up.
@@LinkyedHSRi was thinking : i use fuxuan / march 7 preserve with moze because he can go untargetable which will increase survivability or allow march 7 presvation to be reliable with more follow up ( no avanternine yet)
If i remember correctly, both M7 and Moze have some particular uses. M7 buffs shifu with 60% cdmg and 32% BEE after her own EBA not to mention we getting her to e6 for free as well .while moze gives debuff to enemy to take 45% more cdmg from follow up attack. So my opinion would be if you're using aventurine as sustainer then use moze since he also gets benefit from that debuff and aventurine also stacks moze faster . Otherwise use march in general scenerio. Thing is moze's debuff also benefits dr.ratio . In the end you can use anyone you like since they both make their way into team otherwise.
prefer march cuz can give 10,8% spd to feixiao and can break wind toughness (also 60% cdmg + 36% BE buff) but if your feixiao is E2 maybe moze (E6) will be a better choice
Before watching the video my guess is that moze is better for damage because of his debuff while march is better for stack generation since she makes 1 feixiao turn into 2 stacks ( 3 and a half stacks if you have e2)
I feel like 6:50 could've turned out better instead of going into the next cycle. You could've probably exhausted Moze's last stack with Luocha's Ult so you could pull him up in the cycle using Robin ult. Basically Luocha Ult Trigger Moze Follow-up (exhaust last stack) Fei Xiao Skill to Kafka (Kafka dies) Fei Xiao follow-up hits other enemy Robin Ult Luocha Basic Fei Xiao Skill into Follow-up Moze Skill Moze Ult (I'm just guessing but it does look like he's one Skill away from getting his ult) Fei Xiao Ult
Tbh if you use aventurine or gallagher then moze should be the better option because of his high frequency attacks, not to mention kafka has lighting res so his dmg didn't stand out. But it's not to say march is bad, I ran a team with e1 robin and bronya against kafka; feixiao (e0s0) ult with full buffs dealt 497k dmg while march without 60%dmg buff from bronya skill still dealt 323k
Guys I just KO'd Aventurine in MoC 12 with 3 stars using underbuilt Feixiao with all skills around 7/10 and E2 Moze with skils around 4/10 and his relics varying from lvl 12 to lvl 0 😭 Feixiao is so powerful!!! +Robin and Aventurine
@@voidbg7017 You could argue that, However im planning on using dps supports FuA units instead, because i like those back to back FuA action that takes small damage but big numbers, ofcourse this is not optimal for some people and outside FuA teams, So i suggest getting ruan mei and robin (or if you are just unlucky so just use them)
Their performance are pretty much similar for this current MoC, unless we're talking about other MoC with fire weakness. In this MoC Topaz pretty much has a down side of enemy having 20% Fire Resistance + her passive won't work (a passive which gives additional 15% damage to fire weakness enemy). No need comparison for Topaz bro, Topaz is basically a staple in every Premium FuA team. Not to mention the new BananAmusement Planar that increase Numby damage significantly
For general, march 7, because when she uses her E on feixiao por exemple she will also deal break dmg on wind element and moze will only apply break on electro. Plus, moze E goes off when the enemy dies and also he wont generate points when off field... March 7 is just more comfortable because of those 3 things.
Dose the free skill point moze give make any difference then just compairing the 2 charecters? most likly a stupid question but i'll never know unless i ask
The only healer i use is Fuxuan tho she isn't actually a healer. Why would someone need healing when you have adventurine and Fuxuan. I thank myself even time i play Hsr that i got adventurine on his 1st banner, alongside Robin and Ruanmei which boost my account through the roof.
I agree, i only pulled a healer just in case I need to run 2 sustains in SU/DU. If you utilize your FX correctly she has no issues sustaining and Aventurine is busted (excluding high speed characters).
Maybe if you play Gold and Gears and you don't want to explode in one turn (every time I try to damage race them they hit me twice and my Team explodes even with Aventurine shields :c), I use Gallager for the healing, and because he has debuff on his enhnanced atack and ultimate (for Acheron), and because he does a ton of Break for my Firefly team, the extra turn he gains is really useful to.
Problem with moze that he is really eidolon dependent, his E6 are needed for full potential for feixiao team that's why march still better cause she is E6 free character
I there a way to off that annoying song when robin ult ? Of course without disabling the master volume , its fckng annoying thats why even if i have her i still use bronya for fei ✌️
I discovered that if you use Feixiao's LC then march is worse because she'll cause Feixiao to have only 1 LC stack because the stack overflow and get -1 stack when Feixiao turn end. Annoying problem that only Topaz can fix
Please elaborate, I am trying to get Fei Sig and I don't have Topaz (saving guaranteed for Aven). From what I read, Fei get's 1 LC's stack from her follow up atk, up to 2 stacks, and it is always -1 stack whenever Fei's turn ends. So in scenario where Fei uses her E, she gets 2 stacks, 1 from her E's follow up, and 1 from her talent. What is this stack overflow when she can only get 2 stacks max, and it's still considered her turn when she does her follow-up atk from her talent, and this also applies to her ultimate, if you use her ultimate immediately after using her E (while still in her turn). I just don't get what you mean.
@@antonlee446 I don't know what OP is talking about tbh. The LC doesn't have any overflow mechanic whatsoever. And even if it did, I don't know how Topaz is supposed to work better than March in such scenario.
@@antonlee446 March will trigger FUA after Feixao skill, which also trigger Fei FUA => Fei now have 2 LC stack.Then Fei turn end and Now only have 1 LC stack. Not that big of a problem if you just Ult on Right after Fei's turn. But if u ult off-turn you will get only 1 LC stack which is only 27% DEf ignore and not 54%. Topaz is better because Her FUA don't trigger at the same turn as Fei.
@@balzo_benevolo not really a mechanic but rather an interaction between character. Topaz Fua happen outside of Feixiao's turn which then trigger fei's Fua allow her to have 2 LC stack out of her turn.
@@dangkhoa3953 I forgot Fei's ultimate also count as follow up atk, so it doesn't matter even if she doesn't use her ultimate right after her E. The wording from her LC is "after she launches a follow-up atk", means right after she uses her ultimate (doesn't need it to hit), she gets 1 stack. Even if I comprehended it wrong from the wording, her ultimate has multiple instances of damage although it's only count as 1 hit. So it shouldn't be a problem. I checked KQM guide for her LC, it is mentioned "On Feixiao, its DEF Ignore should always be fully stacked". KQM is one of reliable theorycrafting community.
I think that he isnt good with clara because u'll need that the enemy attacks you a lot of times so clara can help him to use his FuA, maybe in some fights they can work toghether
@@anwarshadaad1553 Yeah but once i use her ult it gets annoying. Especially when my entire team is at full health with good amount of shield and then there's Robin almost dead.
Question, is it better to have the wind and lightning damage spheres for feixiao and moze, compared to an attack sphere? Do they do more damage that way?
I'm busy with life recently, but as soon as I'm free, I'll finish the event and get her e6. Hope it won't take too long cause I really enjoy playing March hunt with feixiao.
@@ashborn6412 im not sure, his buff and damage is better than M7, but for me M7 is much comfortable to use, especially against wind/imaginary weak enemies, and she generates stack faster.
Now i regret building march 7. Really hate her design and everything about her. But I'm a meta slave. Il build moze anyway as well. He looks better for me
Well march 7th is ver flexible, you can put her in as second dps or even superbreak dps, she can unleash crazy amount of dmg for a free character also she can buff spd, break effect and cdm of her shifu, so if you regret building her, you missing out a lot
March for versatility and flexibility
Moze for “I really really want this enemy in particular to die”
What a good explanation 😂😂😂
Or if you can't get march like me lmfao.
@@tkr3399all of her eidolons are free in events
Everyone can get march
@Kimchiman00 I can't. I played the last event, and have three of her eidolons, but I didn't get her for whatever reason. Unless I missed something, it's probably because I'm just not far enough in the story, straight up.
I prefer march because I don't have to farm for one more character lol
Good point 😂
Yuh I ascended moze to lvl50 before saying like bro I alr got topaz and march 😂
@@kurokishizx Bro flexing that he has topaz without having intention to flex🤣
Props to those people who build March early before her Hunt variant came out.
@@LinkyedHSRi was thinking : i use fuxuan / march 7 preserve with moze because he can go untargetable which will increase survivability or allow march 7 presvation to be reliable with more follow up ( no avanternine yet)
1:16 fyi in feixiao ult you can spam pressing space it will automatically chose the right attack for you
Wait? Fr??? Thats a huge help. Thank you bro.
On mobile it literally expands it just so we press that , I just press in between them to have it,
Or just press auto
@@AhmedMohammed-pf3jk On mobile press the enemy instead of the button, it does the trick too
Thnks for the info, i didnt know about that
If i remember correctly, both M7 and Moze have some particular uses. M7 buffs shifu with 60% cdmg and 32% BEE after her own EBA not to mention we getting her to e6 for free as well .while moze gives debuff to enemy to take 45% more cdmg from follow up attack. So my opinion would be if you're using aventurine as sustainer then use moze since he also gets benefit from that debuff and aventurine also stacks moze faster . Otherwise use march in general scenerio. Thing is moze's debuff also benefits dr.ratio . In the end you can use anyone you like since they both make their way into team otherwise.
Please keep the videos coming i love watching them so much
bro thnx i was looking for this
Or use both. Who needs healing if noone can hurt you xD
Sigma 😎
Now I need to build Moze as well
Or you can use aventurine he also got them juicy follow ups
I feel you KIND of need a healer for apocalyptic shadow. Not a dedicated one but kafka dots will chip you down if you can't burst her fast enough
prefer march cuz can give 10,8% spd to feixiao and can break wind toughness (also 60% cdmg + 36% BE buff)
but if your feixiao is E2 maybe moze (E6) will be a better choice
Before watching the video my guess is that moze is better for damage because of his debuff while march is better for stack generation since she makes 1 feixiao turn into 2 stacks ( 3 and a half stacks if you have e2)
Doesn't Moze follow up 3 times
@@xMomoeeNo, only every 3 stacks of his passive/skill is used
@@neonex6590 Yep and it goes down a lot specially with Fei and Aven
I got high speed substats from my build. Rocking 151 speed, so im not gonna be building moze anytime soon.
I got the guy e0, so i must use march 💚 asta wanted my tickets so much out of the 60 wishes i used for fox lady
I just use them both plus Aventurine
problem with moze team u need super fast sustain to generate sp..
Gallagher can do that
Just have a 170 speed Gallagher
I feel like 6:50 could've turned out better instead of going into the next cycle. You could've probably exhausted Moze's last stack with Luocha's Ult so you could pull him up in the cycle using Robin ult.
Basically
Luocha Ult
Trigger Moze Follow-up (exhaust last stack)
Fei Xiao Skill to Kafka (Kafka dies)
Fei Xiao follow-up hits other enemy
Robin Ult
Luocha Basic
Fei Xiao Skill into Follow-up
Moze Skill
Moze Ult (I'm just guessing but it does look like he's one Skill away from getting his ult)
Fei Xiao Ult
Tbh if you use aventurine or gallagher then moze should be the better option because of his high frequency attacks, not to mention kafka has lighting res so his dmg didn't stand out. But it's not to say march is bad, I ran a team with e1 robin and bronya against kafka; feixiao (e0s0) ult with full buffs dealt 497k dmg while march without 60%dmg buff from bronya skill still dealt 323k
i ran pela s5 pearls for 100 def down with robin e1 and she did 750k on kafka, with ruan mei and robin e1 it was 610k i had sig ofc
Guys I just KO'd Aventurine in MoC 12 with 3 stars using underbuilt Feixiao with all skills around 7/10 and E2 Moze with skils around 4/10 and his relics varying from lvl 12 to lvl 0 😭 Feixiao is so powerful!!!
+Robin and Aventurine
if you guys confused , just use both :)
no space
robin and aventurean are there
@@voidbg7017Remove robin, since some people dont have her
@@doggoborgir8935 ? just get her its not hard
@@voidbg7017 You could argue that, However im planning on using dps supports FuA units instead, because i like those back to back FuA action that takes small damage but big numbers, ofcourse this is not optimal for some people and outside FuA teams, So i suggest getting ruan mei and robin
(or if you are just unlucky so just use them)
Could you do a comparison between E0S0 Topaz + E6 Moze and E0S0 Topaz + E6 March hunt? For Feixiao team?
Their performance are pretty much similar for this current MoC, unless we're talking about other MoC with fire weakness.
In this MoC Topaz pretty much has a down side of enemy having 20% Fire Resistance + her passive won't work (a passive which gives additional 15% damage to fire weakness enemy).
No need comparison for Topaz bro, Topaz is basically a staple in every Premium FuA team. Not to mention the new BananAmusement Planar that increase Numby damage significantly
Sadly i dont have topaz, couldnt get her until now
So close to a 0 cycle clear with Moze! I need to build him asap
I use Seele LC so I use March. I tried for E2 Robin but I lost so I guess im staying with March. If I had won, I would have used Moze.
Sinister Moze, like a boss.
I just use both since I don't have Robin
same here
Who should i build for general team? I mean who is better for most situations
Robin,moze
For general, march 7, because when she uses her E on feixiao por exemple she will also deal break dmg on wind element and moze will only apply break on electro. Plus, moze E goes off when the enemy dies and also he wont generate points when off field... March 7 is just more comfortable because of those 3 things.
Dose the free skill point moze give make any difference then just compairing the 2 charecters? most likly a stupid question but i'll never know unless i ask
Moze's free skill point only makes moze SP Neutral while March is still an SP positive.
@@karashuun1083 ohhhh fair point thanks.
The only healer i use is Fuxuan tho she isn't actually a healer. Why would someone need healing when you have adventurine and Fuxuan. I thank myself even time i play Hsr that i got adventurine on his 1st banner, alongside Robin and Ruanmei which boost my account through the roof.
I agree, i only pulled a healer just in case I need to run 2 sustains in SU/DU. If you utilize your FX correctly she has no issues sustaining and Aventurine is busted (excluding high speed characters).
adventurine is broken like zhongli ..
Maybe if you play Gold and Gears and you don't want to explode in one turn (every time I try to damage race them they hit me twice and my Team explodes even with Aventurine shields :c), I use Gallager for the healing, and because he has debuff on his enhnanced atack and ultimate (for Acheron), and because he does a ton of Break for my Firefly team, the extra turn he gains is really useful to.
Problem with moze that he is really eidolon dependent, his E6 are needed for full potential for feixiao team that's why march still better cause she is E6 free character
I there a way to off that annoying song when robin ult ? Of course without disabling the master volume , its fckng annoying thats why even if i have her i still use bronya for fei ✌️
Nop, if robin use ult the song will start everytime, i think that only in AS that her song dont play
There is no way you dont like Robin's ult. Its literally the first time i heard someone complaining about it
I discovered that if you use Feixiao's LC then march is worse because she'll cause Feixiao to have only 1 LC stack because the stack overflow and get -1 stack when Feixiao turn end. Annoying problem that only Topaz can fix
Please elaborate, I am trying to get Fei Sig and I don't have Topaz (saving guaranteed for Aven). From what I read, Fei get's 1 LC's stack from her follow up atk, up to 2 stacks, and it is always -1 stack whenever Fei's turn ends. So in scenario where Fei uses her E, she gets 2 stacks, 1 from her E's follow up, and 1 from her talent. What is this stack overflow when she can only get 2 stacks max, and it's still considered her turn when she does her follow-up atk from her talent, and this also applies to her ultimate, if you use her ultimate immediately after using her E (while still in her turn). I just don't get what you mean.
@@antonlee446 I don't know what OP is talking about tbh. The LC doesn't have any overflow mechanic whatsoever. And even if it did, I don't know how Topaz is supposed to work better than March in such scenario.
@@antonlee446 March will trigger FUA after Feixao skill, which also trigger Fei FUA => Fei now have 2 LC stack.Then Fei turn end and Now only have 1 LC stack. Not that big of a problem if you just Ult on Right after Fei's turn. But if u ult off-turn you will get only 1 LC stack which is only 27% DEf ignore and not 54%. Topaz is better because Her FUA don't trigger at the same turn as Fei.
@@balzo_benevolo not really a mechanic but rather an interaction between character. Topaz Fua happen outside of Feixiao's turn which then trigger fei's Fua allow her to have 2 LC stack out of her turn.
@@dangkhoa3953 I forgot Fei's ultimate also count as follow up atk, so it doesn't matter even if she doesn't use her ultimate right after her E. The wording from her LC is "after she launches a follow-up atk", means right after she uses her ultimate (doesn't need it to hit), she gets 1 stack. Even if I comprehended it wrong from the wording, her ultimate has multiple instances of damage although it's only count as 1 hit. So it shouldn't be a problem.
I checked KQM guide for her LC, it is mentioned "On Feixiao, its DEF Ignore should always be fully stacked". KQM is one of reliable theorycrafting community.
Why does Robin have the Penecony set? The damage boost does nothing cause nobody is physical
Her ULT dmg increase with penacony
sigh if march would be better then i built moze for nothing(nvm i dont have feixiao so idk)
I better for temathic (he is her retainer), and I guess is better if the enemy has electric weakness.
Is moze good with Clara? I want to build him until I get March and then build a second team with clara moze and tingyun
I think that he isnt good with clara because u'll need that the enemy attacks you a lot of times so clara can help him to use his FuA, maybe in some fights they can work toghether
Does march say
"Pew pew khuraii"
Мозе или март вместо зорянки и играй в удовольствие.
Why is it always that Robin is the most targetted? Even in my team where i use Aventurine who should be the most targetted one as a preservation unit.
Robin is tingyun twin
every harmony character's curse
Personally I don't mind she got attacked because free energy
@@anwarshadaad1553 lol so real
@@anwarshadaad1553 Yeah but once i use her ult it gets annoying. Especially when my entire team is at full health with good amount of shield and then there's Robin almost dead.
Isn't march is better for her ultimate stacks? Moze need 3 atk for follow up atk right?
Both can stack her ult fast, even with moze needing 3 atks for follow up
Or remove Loucha and add E4 Bronya and Aventurine. 🤣
Question, is it better to have the wind and lightning damage spheres for feixiao and moze, compared to an attack sphere? Do they do more damage that way?
Yes, they do more dmg. But if you got a really good attack sphere use it, it's still great.
@@Sebastian-sv5zi Oh ok, cool thanks
@@Sebastian-sv5zime because my imaginary orbs suck and I have a decent atk one
Very small difference, only a few hundred or 1k ~ 2k difference really.
@ArvySan Ok cool, thank you
Wait what? You can get e6 march this patch? How?
Yeah you get her eidolons from the new event
Wake up dude😅😅
Do the Luka Event, they gave you the last 3 Eidolon's :x
I'm busy with life recently, but as soon as I'm free, I'll finish the event and get her e6. Hope it won't take too long cause I really enjoy playing March hunt with feixiao.
@@plutoadmirer9904 the event is a fun play. Took me most of a day tho pretty much, while reading most text
I use both of them with feixiao and Robin…. No sustain 😭
What? Hunt M7 just equip 2 set plannar Duran??
March 7
I have march e3, topaz ES0, Fei E0S1, Robin E0S0, Adventurine E0S0
Whhom should i use?
If im not wrong topaz will be the number 1 on fei team, but it depend on the weakness that enemy have
topaz fei robin adventurine for sure, this is her BiS team
How you can get E6 Hunt March 7th?
new event
New event for 2.5
Thanks, I'm not yet open the event
Topaz is better
What about E6 Moze vs E0 Topaz?
obv topaz
topaz mainly cause more dmg and you get a 50% follow up boost for all allies thanks to her skill which is the biggest reason why Topaz > Moze
march 7 is better
Topaz probably
Can you use bronya instead of robin
yes but robin provides a bit more better buffs. But bronya is still a really viable pick!
I wanted Luocha, with it, I could retire Natasha from the team
go for adventurine if you can
Try to get Lingsha if you don't have E6 Gallagher
Topaz gang
i tried Moze in AS, and i regret it.
Why?
@@ashborn6412 Moze still target the boss when they enter phase 2 x.x i had to attack the boss to free him.
@AhaxD-r7g oh so he's only good in moc
@@ashborn6412 im not sure, his buff and damage is better than M7, but for me M7 is much comfortable to use, especially against wind/imaginary weak enemies, and she generates stack faster.
Maybe in a AS with lightning weakness he can work
Now i regret building march 7. Really hate her design and everything about her. But I'm a meta slave. Il build moze anyway as well. He looks better for me
Just say that you hate cute women
Well march 7th is ver flexible, you can put her in as second dps or even superbreak dps, she can unleash crazy amount of dmg for a free character also she can buff spd, break effect and cdm of her shifu, so if you regret building her, you missing out a lot