Tim follin's entire music career is like Jimi hendrix playing all his gigs at chuckie cheese birthday parties and being like "yeah i just wanted to see what I could do with an electric guitar"
Apparently Follin's music was written just to see what he could do with the system. I heard that he'd just write the music, and put it into the game, regardless of what it was about. That explains the Solstice theme, and Puzznic for the Amiga. Either way, it was, without a doubt, badass.
I've always assumed that 8-bit composers of the period - David Whittaker, Rob Hubbard, Tim Follin etc - used to just write lots and lots of music in their spare time, and send it off whenever they had a commission. Otherwise they wouldn't have been able to keep up with the workload.
it goes to show how everything has been already done on its proper era. it's not that tim follin was ahead of his time (being fair he actually was), its that we're still recycling/going back on stuff that has been mastered already.
I'm 26 and I haven't composed anything yet. I have made some chiptune covers though in the hopes of having some theoretical base when creativity hits me.
@@ZoepX Comparison is the thief of joy. Still nice track. Wish all people on earth were composers... Then there'd be even more music for me to listen to mwhahah *cough* haha...
even the very creators of the hardware couldn't figure out how follin got these tunes into the system, according to some myth involving plok and yoshi's island...
@@LOS_NEGRITOS Miyamoto himself was involved in the development of Plok so the rumour of Nintendo thinking Software Creations was using an custom audio chip is a myth. However, he must've been certainly impressed. Koji Kondo is a legend, but the Follin bros are mythical.
@@Annexialol I honestly hear more Tim Follin in Jake Kaufmans music than I do Megaman. Compare a song like "The Price of Doing Business" "Twilight of Tomorrow" and "Hidden by Night" to this song for example. Jake Kaufmans music is a bit too elaborate to sound super similar to Megaman even though I'm sure some inspirational came from those games ost.
Wow, I gotta say, Tim Follin REALLY knew how to bring the NES to its full potential, even without any expansion chips or DPCM. And heck, even when he DIDNT do any work on the NES, he STILL made some pretty rocking OSTs (too bad that the games that me made OSTs of mostly ended up being crap, though...). Now to look for more underrated composers and their OSTs... XD
Alberto José Gonzales or "Joe McAlby" is another great one that's widely unknown. From all of his compositions, his work on the smurfs games for NES and GB are the best ones to start with.
I'd say some of his best work is on Time Trax btw, it's easily the best music I've heard on the Genesis that doesn't exploit PCM to its full power (d'ailleurs salut aze mdr)
You touch the walls you die, you touch the ceiling you die, you touch the water you die, you die, you die you die you die you die die die die *die die die DIE DIE!!!*
Follin Brothers, you are my heroes! They mastered literally every sound chip. C64, NES, Genesis, SNES, Amiga, you name it, they pushed 20 years of sound hardware to its limits.
Al those ups and downs in so many variation is pure and utter brilliance. Only my old dear friend Tim would do a thing like that, laugh it off and walk away whistling. :-D
Jeroen Tel? Didn't expect to see you here. :) The Follin brothers are genius musicians (especially Tim). The Silver Surfer soundtrack is probably my favorite if i had to pick one, but every single soundtrack from them is awesome. But you are also an amazing composer. The Robocop 3 theme is just out of this world! That's honestly one of my favorite video game songs ever. Not to mention all your other stuff on the C64 and NES. I even bought a few games that you have composed music for and also some of Follin's games mainly because of the music (and because of the games too lol). Your dutch as well, not many game composers that are from the Netherlands. :) Tenminste ik ken er niet echt veel dan die uit Nederland komen.
This is what video game music should be to me. Every time that I hear it I should either be moved to tears or want to punch a hole through my wall with the pure rush of adrenaline I get from listening. Thank you Tim Follin.
This track climbs out of the TV and kicks your teeth in, people back then might as well have bought a cutting-edge chiptune album with a game attached to it.
Tim Follin is such an inspiration. No matter how big or small the game he would always create the best music. Really shows that no matter the size of the job, you should always try to make your mark
I sincerely hope that, when they bring Silver Surfer to the MCU, they ask Tim Follin to bring this arrangement to the big screen. Just an insane composition...especially considering the hardware he had to play it.
I owned this game and played it countless times back then. Great game, good graphics and controls, and very good music. People need to stop letting their favorite game reviewers tell them which games are good or bad and judge for themselves. This game was very difficult, but very good.
How is that even possible to push an old sound chip to bring out its musical capabilities to maximum power? They sure knew how to utilize the absolute potential of the 2A03 because this sounds overwhelmingly sublime!
This track is beast. Sunsoft had some bass filled music too. Batman on the nes and gameboy was beast. Castlevania for Gameboy had killer beats also. Nes had some knocking ass tracks.
Actually, if you get used to the game, you'll find it's pretty awesome in its own accord. After seeing the AVGN vid I tried it out and plenty of lives later ended up liking it. You can think I'm a masochist, but the game is not that hard once you get used to the levels. Although I have to tell you, after the main game, there are two more difficulties to surpass xD
Tim Follin should release a tool that allows you to compose with his NES sounds drivers. All his work SLAPS from this era, due in no small part to the excellent sound drivers he used.
Not gonna lie, I heard this while on pornhub. A guy was playing games on a PS3 and his mom got angry at him for not cleaning his room. I'll leave it at that. For whatever reason, it was on loop all 15min of it
I have to agree with you on every aspect except for the vertical stages. Granted your hitbox is unfairly large, I find them much easier than the horizontal levels. It's still insanely difficult, but more manageable. Memorization is a must, ofc.
This soundtrack better be on EVERY old school gamers' top 40 lists ( if it isn't, then you're fired!!!) This was definitely 8-bit at its finest. The follin bros were definitely one of the greatest composers the nes has ever had. their commodore SID experience is very evident in here and in target renegade. Somebody really needs to do a cover of this whole soundtrack... it's a sin that it hasn't happened already.
Dad: "Are ya winnin' son?" Me: "YEEEESSSSS!!!!!!" Dad: "...D-did you get a high score?" Me: "THE HIGHEST OF SCORES, FATHER! THE PENTULTIMATE APEX OF SCOOOOOORES!!!!" Dad: (Wow, these video games he plays must be very difficult and great for exercise. The poor boy was so sweaty and out of breath...)
To get Tim to return: Let him compose whatever tunes he wants on the best real instrument sound chip. Build a game around the tunes that match his quality. A video game that would blow the gaming industry today out of the water.
Aaaah, this track ROCKS! This game really put me through my paces back in the day... and I probably ruined an NES controller over the damn thing - but the good music kept me playing all the way through it. *rocks out in nostalgia-land
Your pleas have (kinda) been answered, last AVGN video about the incredible crash dummies, in it he praises the game's score, as it was composed by Tim Follin too, and he pulls up a FRAKIN SILVER SURFER NES SOUNDTRACK ON VINYL, A CLEAR SEE-THROUGH VINYL WITH A KICK ASS SLEEVE.
Literally all of the memory was used to make an awesome soundtrack and the actual game was just there to fill up some space. And even then, it didnt do it well at all!
@Vebinz I used to love playing this game, every 10 seconds I was dead until I learned the patterns of each enemy, it became a breeze after that and this game started to grow on me.
Oh cool, I'll have to take a look at that. I know that Alberto Gonzalez had worked on making a close imitation of the NES triangle for some of his game boy tracks as well. Stereo = next level! hehe
Commentary: It's like the NES was given some acid and went to a rave and became the life of the party itself, it's frantic, it's trippy, it's addictive, it is just...amazing.
If the difficult was toned down just a bit or the settings actually allowed people who aren't super freaks to get through it, I honestly think that it would be remembered as a classic instead of a classic failure.
@@juliooliveirax eu lembro que na época que joguei , tinha um truque pra ficar invencível !!!! Só assim para terminar , porque realmente é extremamente difícil ! E a música é um dos pontos altos do game !
Tim follin's entire music career is like Jimi hendrix playing all his gigs at chuckie cheese birthday parties and being like "yeah i just wanted to see what I could do with an electric guitar"
Wow that's a pretty perfect analogy actually
Or a guy in an Elsa costume at a birthday party busting the greatest dance moves you've ever seen
lmao 😆
It's funny because it's true! Haha good job
i was blown by the harmonica stuff in plok
Apparently Follin's music was written just to see what he could do with the system. I heard that he'd just write the music, and put it into the game, regardless of what it was about. That explains the Solstice theme, and Puzznic for the Amiga. Either way, it was, without a doubt, badass.
Funny thing is...This music Fits like a glove.
Satriani Infused Rock, that is literally out of this world.
I've always assumed that 8-bit composers of the period - David Whittaker, Rob Hubbard, Tim Follin etc - used to just write lots and lots of music in their spare time, and send it off whenever they had a commission. Otherwise they wouldn't have been able to keep up with the workload.
To be fair, his music to the SNES Spider-Man/X-MEN game was custom-composed for that specific title.
And Pictionary for the NES
Not to mention that whole complete rocking thumping absolute banger of a chiptune soundtrack for mfing PICTIONARY.
This sounds more like an 8-bit remix then an actual song on the NES. Wow!
it goes to show how everything has been already done on its proper era. it's not that tim follin was ahead of his time (being fair he actually was), its that we're still recycling/going back on stuff that has been mastered already.
I agree! Being a chiptunist myself, I can vouch that this is, indeed, original. I found a Famitracker module of this song and holy frick, it’s insane.
Tim Follin composed this when he was 20.
and here I am, being mediocre.
I'm 26 and I haven't composed anything yet.
I have made some chiptune covers though in the hopes of having some theoretical base when creativity hits me.
LSD
Meanwhile I'll be 29 in three months and even the bean-eggs combo farts I compose sound offkey... ( ಥـْـِـِـِـْಥ)
@@ZoepX Comparison is the thief of joy.
Still nice track.
Wish all people on earth were composers... Then there'd be even more music for me to listen to mwhahah *cough* haha...
It's pretty unbelievable how good the NES sound-chip could sound in the hands of some of the better composers.
Tim Follin is a beast
even the very creators of the hardware couldn't figure out how follin got these tunes into the system, according to some myth involving plok and yoshi's island...
@@LOS_NEGRITOS
Miyamoto himself was involved in the development of Plok so the rumour of Nintendo thinking Software Creations was using an custom audio chip is a myth.
However, he must've been certainly impressed. Koji Kondo is a legend, but the Follin bros are mythical.
Yeah, honestly comparing this to some songs on the GBA is crazy (considering that the GBA sound chip wasn't so great).
@@NoidI thought the GBA didn’t have a sound chip?
I'm pretty sure Jake Kauffman was inspired by Tim Follin when he composed the Shovel Knight OST. You can really feel the same energy.
He was.
I though virt (Jake Kaufman) was inspired more on Konami games.
@@dava_arvarabi He obviously has many inspirations. He's also a fellow Final Fantasy VI and even J.S. Bach enjoyer
*cough cough* Mega Man *cough cough*
@@Annexialol I honestly hear more Tim Follin in Jake Kaufmans music than I do Megaman. Compare a song like "The Price of Doing Business" "Twilight of Tomorrow" and "Hidden by Night" to this song for example. Jake Kaufmans music is a bit too elaborate to sound super similar to Megaman even though I'm sure some inspirational came from those games ost.
Man, Tim deserved better games to work on.
Give some credit though, his music is some of the only reasons many of the games he worked on are still remembered today.
Better games deserved Tim, lol!
Yeah, it's called Solstice ;)
Plok
Plok was pretty good.
I love how I can search up "that song from the silver surfer game" and actually find what I was looking for.
LOL, I just tried it, and you're right, it works!
It works!
It sounds like a modern day chiptune, Tim really did amazing stuff with the limited hardware way back.
Wow, I gotta say, Tim Follin REALLY knew how to bring the NES to its full potential, even without any expansion chips or DPCM. And heck, even when he DIDNT do any work on the NES, he STILL made some pretty rocking OSTs (too bad that the games that me made OSTs of mostly ended up being crap, though...). Now to look for more underrated composers and their OSTs... XD
Plok...was a good game. Same with Solestice.
Alberto José Gonzales or "Joe McAlby" is another great one that's widely unknown. From all of his compositions, his work on the smurfs games for NES and GB are the best ones to start with.
he is WAY too modest about it too
@@quadpad_music His work on Turok 2 for the Game Boy Color is amazing
@@andyukmonkey - I agree, but I think I like Turok: Rage Wars better.
As almost all the games that Tim Follin composed for. Look at Plok (SNES). Look at Pictionary (NES).
@@FunnyFinger69 same
@@FunnyFinger69 damn, that hit hard...
I'd say some of his best work is on Time Trax btw, it's easily the best music I've heard on the Genesis that doesn't exploit PCM to its full power (d'ailleurs salut aze mdr)
Ignoring Solstice like his best bangers aren't on there smh
*Start playing* "Wow,this music is so goo--" *DEAD*
You touch the walls you die, you touch the ceiling you die, you touch the water you die, you die, you die you die you die you die die die die *die die die DIE DIE!!!*
Tim, stop.
Tim, SLOW DOWN.
*CONTROL YOURSELF, TIM!!*
"No."
"Is it possible to learn this power?"
"Not from any chiptune composer."
Follin Brothers, you are my heroes! They mastered literally every sound chip. C64, NES, Genesis, SNES, Amiga, you name it, they pushed 20 years of sound hardware to its limits.
I remember my mom beating this back in 1999. This was my favorite track and I always used to beg mama to turn up the TV. Good times.
Dang, this game was known to be one of the hardest NES titles. Your mom has some real gaming skill.
Al those ups and downs in so many variation is pure and utter brilliance. Only my old dear friend Tim would do a thing like that, laugh it off and walk away whistling. :-D
Jeroen Tel? Didn't expect to see you here. :)
The Follin brothers are genius musicians (especially Tim). The Silver Surfer soundtrack is probably my favorite if i had to pick one, but every single soundtrack from them is awesome.
But you are also an amazing composer. The Robocop 3 theme is just out of this world! That's honestly one of my favorite video game songs ever. Not to mention all your other stuff on the C64 and NES. I even bought a few games that you have composed music for and also some of Follin's games mainly because of the music (and because of the games too lol). Your dutch as well, not many game composers that are from the Netherlands. :)
Tenminste ik ken er niet echt veel dan die uit Nederland komen.
oh hi jeroen tel! love the music!
@@WhoLover Thanks!
@@JeroenTel Glad to see you here too, love your music.
@@Plasmariel Thank you. 👽
This is one of the most metal 8 bit tracks I’ve ever heard
This could totally pass as a song for a new retro style game in the current year like songs for shovel knight or bloodstained
This is what video game music should be to me. Every time that I hear it I should either be moved to tears or want to punch a hole through my wall with the pure rush of adrenaline I get from listening. Thank you Tim Follin.
I DIDNT KNOW SUCH GODLIKE MUSIC COULD COME OUT OF MY NES
I still can't believe this is the NES. One of my buddies had to actually prove it to me. Sounds like it was made in the 2000s with top-dollar synths.
This track climbs out of the TV and kicks your teeth in, people back then might as well have bought a cutting-edge chiptune album with a game attached to it.
When the Silver Surfer MCU film comes out, I hope it uses this theme as it's entrance. I would die happy.
I hate the MCU but if they did that, that alone would get me to see the movie lmao
@@jorts_master69 yes.
The fact that they can reach this level of mind blowing awesomeness without even using the DPCM channel is just insane.
Tim Follin is such an inspiration. No matter how big or small the game he would always create the best music. Really shows that no matter the size of the job, you should always try to make your mark
Sounds like he built on the idea he set up in Pictionary and turned up the energy even more
I did remember how insanely hard this game was, but I had forgotten what kept me comin' back for more...the kick-ass soundtrack!
I sincerely hope that, when they bring Silver Surfer to the MCU, they ask Tim Follin to bring this arrangement to the big screen. Just an insane composition...especially considering the hardware he had to play it.
What a massive dichotomy between game quality and music quality.
They had good music talent on the team, not gameplay talent 😅
Its hard to believe the NES was capable of such awesome soundtracks.
I owned this game and played it countless times back then.
Great game, good graphics and controls, and very good music.
People need to stop letting their favorite game reviewers tell them which games are good or bad and judge for themselves.
This game was very difficult, but very good.
Silver Surfer 2: Revenge of the Follin.
Jack Hill LMAO
How is that even possible to push an old sound chip to bring out its musical capabilities to maximum power? They sure knew how to utilize the absolute potential of the 2A03 because this sounds overwhelmingly sublime!
HOLY THIS IS AMAZING WTF
This track is beast. Sunsoft had some bass filled music too. Batman on the nes and gameboy was beast. Castlevania for Gameboy had killer beats also. Nes had some knocking ass tracks.
First time hearing this was background music, then halfway into it I actually had to turn my head back and stop, and just listen and be amazed.
1:15 gives me chills everytime
Tim follin was in the garage cooking up HEATTTT
Holy crap, WHAT IS THAT BASS KICK?
Ah Silver Surfer, a game that tells you “Oh you want some awesome tunes? EARN IT!”
Geoff is a genius of the nes
Actually, if you get used to the game, you'll find it's pretty awesome in its own accord.
After seeing the AVGN vid I tried it out and plenty of lives later ended up liking it.
You can think I'm a masochist, but the game is not that hard once you get used to the levels.
Although I have to tell you, after the main game, there are two more difficulties to surpass xD
Tim Follin should release a tool that allows you to compose with his NES sounds drivers. All his work SLAPS from this era, due in no small part to the excellent sound drivers he used.
More complex and intricate than any C64 tune I've heard.
Incredible ......
WHY DID SUCH A GOOD SOUNDTRACK GO TO SUCH AN IMPOSSIBLY HARD GAME
THIS SHIT IS AWESOME
WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE REDO THIS ON GUITAR?
I'll do it when I get better at learning music by ear just remind me in a few months
@@GrubQueenMarisa 12 YEARS MARISA. MY COMMENT IS 12 YEARS OLD
DO IT NOOOOOOOW
@@david02129 I'M SORRYYYYYYYYY I'LL GRT A FRIEND TO READ IT BY EAR
Because this song goes "Hard" get it? XD
This is beyond impressive
I think is his best. Such an amazing song.
this has got to be one of the greatest pieces of video game music, EVER
Imagine sitting down at your computer and then this comes out've your brain and into the software... Imagine.
Not gonna lie, I heard this while on pornhub. A guy was playing games on a PS3 and his mom got angry at him for not cleaning his room. I'll leave it at that. For whatever reason, it was on loop all 15min of it
Would watch for music alone.
"I'll leave it at that."
I'd rather you didn't.
k den she started beating em off out of nowhere@@SnowThenDen
And sadly...I cant find that video
- you will never do the deed while Tim Follins plays in the background
WHY EVEN LIVE!?
This is the best music I think I've ever heard in a game
This is what “ITS OVER 9000!!!” musically sounds like! It’s so good it traumatised me
I've never heard of this game in my life but this is A BOP
Good god this game has SUCH a good music score.
I have to agree with you on every aspect except for the vertical stages. Granted your hitbox is unfairly large, I find them much easier than the horizontal levels. It's still insanely difficult, but more manageable. Memorization is a must, ofc.
It's so ironic that a game which is almost unplayable would have such awesome music for it's day.
This soundtrack better be on EVERY old school gamers' top 40 lists ( if it isn't, then you're fired!!!) This was definitely 8-bit at its finest. The follin bros were definitely one of the greatest composers the nes has ever had. their commodore SID experience is very evident in here and in target renegade.
Somebody really needs to do a cover of this whole soundtrack... it's a sin that it hasn't happened already.
This music is hella good! Like my God....
Dis SONG IS REALLY goOD MAN
Probably the best NES game BGM, probably the worst NES side-scroller SHMUP game.
Fire
Someone should do an electric guitar cover on this song.
Joe Satriani could.
Jonny Atma is your friend, he did a cover a couple years back.
ua-cam.com/video/ot69s_k8X8Q/v-deo.html this guy do it, and Tim Folling send a coomentary on that video
legorulez49 no
You're in luck. Just listen to the super off-road on SNES intro song.
Dad: "Are ya winnin' son?"
Me: "YEEEESSSSS!!!!!!"
Dad: "...D-did you get a high score?"
Me: "THE HIGHEST OF SCORES, FATHER! THE PENTULTIMATE APEX OF SCOOOOOORES!!!!"
Dad: (Wow, these video games he plays must be very difficult and great for exercise. The poor boy was so sweaty and out of breath...)
Its clear they were too invested in the soundtrack then the actual gameplay itself.
that's tim follin's job, not the programmers
Oddly enough,the Follins alongside some Software Creations personnel would leave because they weren't paid enough...
“This is great music, what’s it from?” “Weird shiny space guy groovy on skateboard.” “He gotta go.” Wow.
JESUS CHRIST TIMMY! WHY SO MUCH 🔥?!
To get Tim to return:
Let him compose whatever tunes he wants on the best real instrument sound chip.
Build a game around the tunes that match his quality.
A video game that would blow the gaming industry today out of the water.
Cripes, what a freakishly great NES soundtrack.
Aaaah, this track ROCKS!
This game really put me through my paces back in the day... and I probably ruined an NES controller over the damn thing - but the good music kept me playing all the way through it.
*rocks out in nostalgia-land
i'm surprised the nerd didnt comment on how FUCKING JAMMIN THE MUSIC WAS!!!!!!
Your pleas have (kinda) been answered, last AVGN video about the incredible crash dummies, in it he praises the game's score, as it was composed by Tim Follin too, and he pulls up a FRAKIN SILVER SURFER NES SOUNDTRACK ON VINYL, A CLEAR SEE-THROUGH VINYL WITH A KICK ASS SLEEVE.
That is just stupidly good!
The bass is unreal.
I only rented this game back in the day just to listen to kicked ass song
Tim & Geoff Follins excellent job dudes
Literally all of the memory was used to make an awesome soundtrack and the actual game was just there to fill up some space. And even then, it didnt do it well at all!
This.is.INSANE!
MAAAAAAAN! This soundtrack is DOPE!
Whoaa, so awesome! Never played the game, but the music is fantastic!
I can honestly say I have completed this game
This is the peak of Tim Follin music.
Nah. Despite this being godly you haven't heard all of their library
@@Plasmariel True
A friend owned this game,,, we would always rock out to this tune.. game was so hard though but he eventually got used to it..
Best NES song ever
This song introduced me to Tim Follin.
i love this-
I would give Tim Follin a high five for a job well done, but I'd probably die after.
I remember how hot this beat was back in the day! Great BMG even though the game was terrible.
@Vebinz I used to love playing this game, every 10 seconds I was dead until I learned the patterns of each enemy, it became a breeze after that and this game started to grow on me.
Oh cool, I'll have to take a look at that. I know that Alberto Gonzalez had worked on making a close imitation of the NES triangle for some of his game boy tracks as well.
Stereo = next level! hehe
This song so fire and this game so hard
Commentary: It's like the NES was given some acid and went to a rave and became the life of the party itself, it's frantic, it's trippy, it's addictive, it is just...amazing.
This is the music that plays when school is over FOREVER!
If the difficult was toned down just a bit or the settings actually allowed people who aren't super freaks to get through it, I honestly think that it would be remembered as a classic instead of a classic failure.
awesome sauce \m/
This soundtrack deserved a better game to go with it, seriously. Eargasm.
Govong me chills
1:50 is the grand finale motif from browsers inside story. thats sick
I knew I wasn't the only one who though of that!
@@Scribble2345 i love you
@@michael-hj8elme too, bro!
Amazin good stuff
L> Cover of this.
It's an eargasm that owns most SNES games.
(This is amazing considering it's a NES game)
it would. it already sounds amazing as it is.
LJN Made some harsh games.
But shit, their music was pretty awesome.
It was made by Software Creations, not LJN.
There goes my post.
***** Tim and Geoff Follin worked together on this game.
tim follin is a fucking lad bro
Bluelight Spike because tim
I Love Ness 8 bits !!
Como eu amo os jogos do Nintendinho ! Nostalgia pura !
musica boa, jogo ruim de dificil
@@juliooliveirax eu lembro que na época que joguei , tinha um truque pra ficar invencível !!!! Só assim para terminar , porque realmente é extremamente difícil ! E a música é um dos pontos altos do game !