Drawing Superman from Ai Reference and What I Think of It
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- In today's video I draw Superman and talk about using Ai Generated images as reference and what I think of the process. This is just an experiment and I am merely testing ideas. I don't support Ai software but I also don't deny the fact that the programs may have some benefits here and there once they are properly regulated.
What are your thoughts on this technology and do you see some light at the end of the tunnel. It can't all be doom and gloom right? Comment below and thank you for watching this channel!
Robert A. Marzullo
Ram Studios Comics
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I don't see any issue with you using it for reference, especially when you're adding your own flare to it. I think some people are in a state of fight or flight that makes them needlessly aggressive when it comes to these topics.
I agree that people are fearful and even angry over the current use of it. I also feel that we have to have these conversations so that we can learn, grow, and even adapt. Thank you for your comment and for watching!
@@RobertMarzullo I see it as becoming more of a studio assistant, creating mock-ups, from prompts given by the artist. For the artist to complete.
But, not creating an artist's finished work. This will happen anyway because it's cheap. But, I think, over time, the public will quickly learn which is which and may reject AI generated art.
I don't personally see an issue with using it for reference. For profit sure that's horrible.
Considering that pseudo "AI" is not thinking and it doesnt know anything if you use it for reference you might learn incorrect anatomy for example.
Agreed. People shouldn't use it as a way to make money without learning how to draw and paint their own works of art.
It's true that we still have to learn proper anatomy and draw from life so that we know what is right and what is wrong. It's the same as drawing from our favorite artists. We can pick up some bad habits if we are not careful.
Even though you 100% rendered this yourself, it still struck me as "AI" at first sight because I'm so used to every straight-on pose nowadays being generated.
Good point. Thank you for your comment!
I use an AI generator to help spark ideas on subjects that I may have not thought of myself. It’s good for idea generation. I know most of the stuff is usually quite inaccurate in regards to proportion;lighting;or correct perspective,etc.
It's this use exactly. To suggest ideas for the professional artist. An assistant.
I don't think there is anything wrong with that. It is similar to creating a mood board with a bunch of inspiration art and photos.
The insidious thing about using AI as reference is that whatever your opinion on it is, you've used it too.
There's so much of that wank out there and it's so hard to tell which is which, that it happened at some point.
And also it's just bad reference, no matter how stylized your art is, it will keep you stuck. And you will end up just adding your own filter over it.
And while that's not necessarily bad, if you've seen that comic where superman is drawn with light all over him.
I'm not gonna google it, it was drawn in a style you don't usually see in comics and there was light falling all over him and I think they were old in the comic too. Idk the details but there is no way anyone that's seen it forgot the image.
And that's my long winded point, AI won't be a part of something like that. It won't make it and it won't be reference for it.
You need real people in the real world doing great things to inspire you, to give you the motivation, the energy and the imagery to make something equally great.
AI as a tool for an artist to use is completely ethical. Using it for references or posing or lighting a 3d shape is fine, and I think it's something we'll need to adapt to because, as you said, it isn't going away.
I think some folks will try to hack it into places they shouldn't, but it's a temporary problem.
I think as long as there are other artists out there who also appreciate and respect the craft, then there will always be a place for human hand crafted art
Well said and I agree. There will always be a greater love and joy for art made by humans!
Using ai is fine, it’s not good enough to replace art anyways, so if your a good artist ai still won’t replace art, so is good for reference and will be used for a tool but it can’t replace art because good artists are more talented
See? You hit the nail right square on the head. NEW TECH. Had people stuck with traditional pencil and paper, perhaps this would never have come to pass. But people always wanted a faster way to draw ( short cut) they turned to the digital realm. And lo and behold! Wacom's and Cintiq's were born. Some artists were originally against those forms as well accusing artists of being lazy cheaters. So as a natural progression, people are again calling foul. True, it's a shi**y thing to steal another artists style without compensation, but really, how much difference is their really from a traditional artist emulating a popular artists art style? Are they paying that artist for copying his/her style? Of course they aren't. AI is here to stay and like you said, traditional artists are going to have to step up their game or be left by the wayside.
You make some good points. Throughout history we can see this pattern repeat when a new technology emerges. It creates a divide in the community which is unfortunate but the world is a big place and traditional artists don’t need to fear this. I believe that this should increase the value of traditional art even more over time.
I think its like coffee, a lot will go for the cheep stuff, no flavor, nothing. That's ai. But there are also the people who want the real stuff. The cup that someone put their heart into. There will always be a market for real art, the problem is that sometimes its hard to tell if your $25 cup was just some cheep stuff from the store.
Yep! There is a market for everyone. We just have to focus on connecting with each other. Our art does that better than Ai generated images ever could. We are the Starbucks and they are McDonalds coffee. mmmmmmmm……coffee…Lol
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I'd rather do a bad pose from memory, than use Ai do improve it, it doesn't make me drive to be better. Great points made in the video, sure was a fun experiment.
That is my preferred method as well. Doing some more right now!
Hey rob tbh I had used it sometimes when I have an idea and cannot find anything on Pinterest to fit what I did have in mind. But did u go to a website or choose an app?
I think AI images have a certain look to them and if you look at them enough you will absorb that look, so I think using them as reference can be quite dangerous.
This image you drew does look "ai" but maybe if you didn't tell us I wouldn't suspect...
For this reason I'll continue to look at human/nature made references.
Yeah it's like digital clay in the method you are using. Using a wooden model vs a picture vs google image vs etc. It's all to improve hand your handcrafted art no matter the reference.
Tracing and using other people's art without permission, saying something is their own when it isn't, propagandic attacks, all that is where the legality lies. Great video and btw, amazing Superman. Your comic style is one of the cleanest on this platform.
I would never use it as anymore than eye candy and definitely not as a replacement for drawing from life and from more advanced artists. I don't agree with the way it is designed now and I hope it gets regulated very soon.
Thank you very much for the kind comment. I love to draw this stuff so I am glad you like the work! Thank you for watching my channel and have a great day!
stunning painting
Thank you!
For what it’s worth, SCOTUS will decide the AI issue and it will be in favor of the artist
I just go to Deviantart, heaps of free AI images there😂
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It’s no different than using a photo reference in my opinion. If a person is using generative AI to make money or trying to pass it off as original, then that is not cool at all though. However, I also totally understand the novelty of it all. It’s neat to be able to throw a prompt into a machine and get a decent-ish image of said thing.
Yeah, it is like a cool magic trick. Reminds me of when I first saw the greeting card machines in Meijers that would draw your card while you wait. I got worried then and thought, “Oh no! The machines are taking my job!” This was like 20 years ago. lol
AI has its benefits, it just shouldn’t be the final product. Human input is a necessity
I'm glad you are taking this issue up, Robert. It's not going away, the technology is widely distributed, and an ethical use can be worked out.
Artists need to engage with it because of this.
Using it as something to work from, as you have, seems to be the best and most defensible use, so far.
Over time, I believe the public will become jaded by it's overuse and there will always be a desire and a market for one-of-a-kind works by actual artists.
With this, the magic seems to be all in the prompts. Which is a science in itself.
I think we have to have these types of conversations so that we can move forward and continue to be working artists. You made some good points and thank you for commenting!
Which ai do you use?
I just grab images from Google search but I have played around with Bing.ai. It's a novel experience but I couldn't see it doing anything except random concepts. Seems to have a hard time getting close to anything specific or detailed.
Professeur vous avez utilisé une tablette pour ce dessin n'est ce pas ???
Yes, I used a Cintiq and an iPad Pro for the inks and coloring.
THat's really dope!
Amazing ❤❤❤
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Hey there big fan of your work and I’m sorry to have to use your UA-cam channel as an example to prove that what you’re doing is no different from AI. So people are saying that it’s stealing from other artist. correct? Well, what you’re doing is stealing from other artist as well. You’re drawing Superman. One can say that you’re stealing someone else’s creation to further, your reputation.
The cross hatching that was someone else’s art style as well.
People have nothing else better to do. If they know history then they would not be so upset with AI. People especially in art or creative think that bashing it helps but it is a tool. All tools use since the creation of anything in the artistic field have been you for good and bad. Also how many artists really own their art anyway. Most creative especially artist have stole their style from others and no claim it as their own.
No one owns a style and no one owns their art unless they have the TM for the brand or physical copyright. So you don't have to explain yourself ROB.
Artist MUST embrace tools and learn the nuisances about the tools to be in the know versus complaining or bashing it. If you understand it and how to use it then it can be a great reference tool. Also it has a purpose just like all the tools people used to speed up their process when creating art.
Don’t use the theft machine Jesus Christ have some self respect
AI is art theft. If you intend to use it as reference I’ll be unsubscribing.
In your opinion, what's the difference between using someone else's work as a reference and using AI generated art as a reference?
@@TraitorousTortoise AI takes from thousands of artists without permission. If you use someone else’s art as a reference. I’d assume you’d likely ask first. Not just rip them off of their art. I do art as a job. My art has been taken without permission. It makes me furious.
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@@ninjaweretiger4273you have a small brain
@@ninjaweretiger4273 Artists typically don't ask permission to use someone else's art as a reference. If you want to draw a dog, you find a picture of a dog so you know how it looks like. You're not asking the photographer, the owner, and the dog for permission. The same way it's unusual to expect to ask permission from the mayor of New York to draw the Statue of Liberty, permission of a celebrity to draw a caricature, or asking permission of a manga artist to do fan art.