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Sorry to be the bearer of bad new but they did ruin arkham joker. In a multiverse tie in with the main comic batman an alternate reality joker hops though universes bring dead jokers back to life and they stop in the arkham universe. And arkham batman talks about how he's back.
The race-swapping is a problem, the only reason for these dumbass race-swaps and gender-swaps is to get brownie points with the mentally ill woke crowd
I agree with most of this, and honestly it makes me hate that DC and WB are the only companies that have rights to these characters. So many fantastic stories could be told with every single one of them, including the Joker.
Considering the co-founders of Rocksteady left the studio to form their own studio and brought many of the original devs with them, it isn't really surprising how this game turnout.
Yea makes me worried with gta 6 and rockstar leslie benzies left and made his own studio and game, I’m sure the game will look pretty and have details unimaginable but the story and tone of the game will it have “woke” elements and such of course many other devs left like lazlow and Dan houser, I feel the writing of the game won’t be the same as previous games
@@thebigal123 which is more interesting? Inhuman alien monster doing monstrous things? Or alien refugee doing his best to help protect the world that accepted him and loved him, making it a safer world for everyone else because he can and the people of earth deserve to live in peace
We could’ve gotten a Superman game, or even a Batman Beyond story with Terry Miginus fighting Damian Wayne for the cowl both of those are much better ideas and what’s even worse is THE PEICES FOR BATMAN BEYOND WAS ALREADY IN PLACE SINCE ARKHAM KNIGHT
Imagine this was a “tower of the babel” game with flashbacks to how Superman and the rest of the league recruited Batman. Wow the game we got was disappointing
With the tower of babel story already out there, how do you spend so much time making this absolute slog of a piece of garbage game? 13 brainiacs? Live service? Wtf
What this game really messes up is the fact that the movie "assult on arkham" was cannon to the arkham movies and waller dies in that as well as it having the white deadshot and when batman shows up it turns into a mini horror movie cause the suicide squad has no plan for him except run and run fast. And king shark dies in that movie to if i remember correctly.
Guardians of the galaxy is the perfect antithesis of this game. Their characters all had an arch and they used the brainwashed characters trope to show why they love these characters, like going in each person’s head and freeing them. SSKTJL used the brainwash trope to why show why they hate these characters.
At least gotham knights gave batman some respect. Even though we never got to see his version, he was given a heroic death. Maybe wb montreal should make the batman games instead of rocksteady
Uh, HELL to the no. Just cuz they gave their Batman some respect, that doesn't mean they understand the character and his mythos; they don't. Gotham Knights proved that.
@@sup3414Um they definitely understand the character. Gotham Knights problems come from making a Batman game without Batman, and trying to make a gutted live service game.
@@jrob4795 Oh really? Then why did the devs make the NPCs of Gotham Knights talk abiut how Batman is nothing more than a rich white guy who only beats up poor people every night? Why did they have Lucius Fox in one of Bruce's audio logs questioning if he should work for a white man? Why did the devs make Bruce say that cringe SJW speech to the Court towards the end of the game before dying yet again? Why did they stupidly made Batman stab himself with Ra's sword in the intro when he would've escaped him another way without inflicting damage on himself? They don't understand Batman.
Warner is stupid asf putting this trash out. We could have had Conroy's final Batman game be old Bruce Wayne mentoring a Terry McGuiness in Batman Beyond. What a shame. Rocksteady definitely fell off.
@@Mondoness who cares. Why would anyone want a batman game without Bruce wayne it's dumb. That's his story... although I've never been a fan of sidekicks anyways. Just remaster or port origins my favorite one
@zaherking0159 nobody likes cops. They're like teachers. Most of them are just zombies going through the motions. Hence, why we only like the "cool" ones, ya know, the ones that actually care. The ones that stand out. Spider-Man and Batman have been at odds with the police for decades before woke was woke. By definition, that's what a vigilante is.
@@zaherking0159what even is the American way, anymore? "Paying someone else to do it"? Ya know Superman is an alien, right? An immigrant. A refugee. What even is woke, anymore? Ya know... entertainment was always propaganda, right?
I see Gotham Knights like _The Rise of Skywalker:_ They really tried to do a good job, but it's so UTTERLY incompetent and poorly executed. While Suicide Squad: KTJL is like _The Last Jedi:_ More technically proficient, but intentionally disrespectful to the fanbase and anyone who paid money for it. At the very least we can say it isn't Saints Row, which is _She Hulk: Attorney at Law_ or _Velma:_ Extremely incompetent on every single level AND disrespectful to its fanbase, as well as everyone else. (And yes, I know that's not a Star Wars analogy, but literally nothing on streaming is worse than She Hulk or Velma.)
There’s a leak that has flash’s voice saying “Why am I back. Bruce said Waller hates us” so he’s pretty much brought back to life so none of these deaths will matter.
This also brings the point of wtf was this game made if all of it didn’t matter what was the point of killing them then all of sudden were back we were fine this entire time the game is just a massive waste of time, also mot to mention if this is tied to to the Arkham verse not only was it for nothing the actual wonder woman died same for the bat family robin got killed so basically rocksteady just killed the Arkham verse
@@Notwedsquid I will say this if you’re a die hard Arkham fan stay away from this cause the story will just frustrate you and probably make you quit before Harley even pulls the trigger. However and this is at the very least bottom of the barrel credit I can give this. As a looter shooter fan there is something there. This game does have the makings of a half decent 3rd person looter shooter. The problem is the main thing these types of games need is length of stay you have to keep your audience playing for as long possible and suicide squad is working against itself with its piss poor writing. Yes the loot aspect and endgame is fine but no comic book or Arkham fan is gonna reach that point cause you already pissed them off and pushed them away they have no motivation to keep playing because you ripped that motivation straight out of them. I’m one of the few Arkham fans who managed to push through the dumpster fire writing and I at least found a half decent looter shooter and a fine endgame but it’s not gonna change any minds. If you want a decent story followed up by a good looter shooter just play the borderlands games or wait till more seasons drop. At max this game is only worth 30 dollars as it is in a dollar per hour ratio. (1 dollar equals 1 hour so if a game costs 70 dollars that’s the minimum amount of time I expect to be entertained, however I only got 30 hours worth of entertainment out of it) so wait till it’s worth that price or it’s free in game pass don’t do what I did it’s not worth it.
Have Nightwing go up against Deathstroke or Talon or possibly even Raptor? 🤔 I'd love to play that game with the Arkham Knight graphics and engine and battle system 🤔
@EdgeO419 Oh yeah, true you've got a point there. This game should have been a Terry McGinnis Batman Beyond narrative anyway and have a proper send-off for Kevin Conroy that way instead of unceremoniously getting his brain blown out by the "3rd best member of Sushi Squad"
Sefton Hill & friends wanted to create Batman Beyond game with Damian as Batman & Bruce as his mentor so I highly doubt they wanted to tarnished decades of long standing history of their own biggest creation Batman Arkhamverse. That's very nonsensical even for a rebellious action. I believe they left from the very fact that indeed WB & Sweet Baby Inc sabotaged the whole project. All of the contradictory canons (like black deadshot) was literally a direct command from WB to fit Hollywood agendas. Black deadshot actually happened because of Will Smith's deadshot (SS movie), in which this info has been in public long time. Also, another "Brainiac" & Evil Superman plots are pretty much WB shenanigans. It happened already multiple times, particularly in Injustice games. How much are you willing to bet next James Gunn DCCU will involve one of those 13 Brainiacs!? If real Rocksteady wanted to really create proper SS game, then it would have been more like "Assault on Arkham" (this movie is way more canon btw) instead of "Kill The Justice League."
I’m glad y’all mentioned some of the devs on Twitter. I don’t understand why they feel the need to defend themselves and hate on people who don’t like the game. One was an environment designer and they acted like the fans were sending them death threats over it. It’s just acting like a victim in some cases. We want the devs who were responsible for the story to be fired, not random devs that had no part in the games story.
Been watching Slcmof’s videos for years, watching the theorising about what Rocksteady and WB Games Montréal’s next game could be, all the leaks, revelations about cancelled games and now we finally get Gotham Knights and the Suicide Squad game and I’m so disappointed. All these years of waiting just to be given these lacklustre games.
Harley has an immunity to certain things due to Poison Ivy injecting her with the antidote she gave her back in Animated Series which apparently that specific scene is suppose to be Canon to Harley. The antidote pretty much overwrote Harley's DNA making her immune to many diseases and other environmental substances so that could be why. However, it did infect her in the Injustice Games which she was able to recover from pretty quickly.
I mean, to be honest, if the dead League members end up being clones, or whatever, and they come back to set up a future game…….i don’t know if I would play it considering the level of story telling on display in the SS game. I don’t know if Rocksteady has what it takes. They are clearly not the same company they were a decade ago. They have A LOT of work to do if they ever hope to regain the trust of the fan base….and I’m not convinced they will. Quite frankly, I don’t think they’ll even survive as a company if we’re to believe the increase in demands for refunds of the game. They pulled an Amber Heard and royally shat the bed.
@@eznf98 is it confirmed that the JL from the Arkham verse will be coming back tho? Or is it just a RANDOM elseworld JL team that will come take their place? I’m curious to know.
@angelodilullo7591 heard that every season after the first one 1 will come back Not sure though But will be funny when everyone complains that they killed them Then complains they brought them back
@@eznf98this brings the question why make the game at that point and from watching the story not only did you kill clones you killed the real Wonder Woman the real robin possibly bat woman nightwing and red hood
One thing I've not seen anyone talk about is the fact that Rocksteady undermines it's own premise within it's own game. By having Wonder Woman beat the crap out of the Suicide Squad EXTREMELY easily without breaking a sweat at the start of the game, the Squad bear 0 threat from that point on. She's on equal ground with the rest of the League, if she can do that while holding back and not killing, there's no reason to think the Squad could survive facing ANY of the JL, so it becomes frustrating and insulting when they do.
Reminder that in Assault on Arkham. Riddler figured out a way to escape the Squad without his head getting blown off. And even helped the other members of the Squad remove their bombs. Riddler would never want to be part of the Squad
Dude is right, they need to light a match and start from scratch at this point. Make a new game universe with Batman in a Long Halloween/Dark Victory year 2 or 3 timeline, and have Superman make a cameo in the end, then make a Superman game that is basically an adaptation of the Birthright storyline, with a cameo from the original JL (Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Flash, Green Arrow, Aquaman)trying to recruit him in the end, leading to a JL game with Superman as dlc or something.
Great video This game is a disaster on so many levels. Gameplay, concept to story are all wrong. Y’all nailed it, seems Rocksteady was forced to make something they didn’t want to make and maybe didn’t know how to make. Also many good people left the studio. They could have made Batman using contingency plan to stop brainwashed Justice League and then we play as them over the rest of game (or seasons IF they needed to do live service but yuck). They clearly forced the guns into the game for RNG stat rolls and chasing Destiny looter shooter drops. The story was thrown together with no knowledge of the characters with Green Lanterns ring going to Shark, Penguin making weapons, every hero gets a terrible death & pissed on except female wonder woman while Lex Luthors log says hes hates toxic masculinity & likes the Amazons. This game wasn’t made with love & care it was a cash grab forced by CEOs and management. Sad Rocksteady went down like this. Encourage everyone to save their time & money and avoid this. Go back and play old Batman Arkham games if you want a great superhero game that still holds up over time.
*Miller has recently said that the spoilers he said happen in the DLC and not the main story mode. I feel like he should've mentioned that sooner. Let's see if he ends up being right or not once all the DLC is out.*
I feel like regardless if that does happen. It still wouldn’t change the amount of hate this game is receiving. If anything, players are iust gonna question why the return of the justice league was a DLC and not in the base game.
@real.Z267 People are mad that the JL are dead. And are mad that they died the way they did. If Rocksteady reveals that the real JL is still alive, that would ofc make a lot of people happy. There may be people who are annoyed since it's a cop out. But a cop out to their deaths is better than them actually dying.
@@ZWorksFinei understand what your point is, but people are mad about the structure of this game as well. That’s what I mean regarding that it isn’t going to change the amount of hate the game is receiving. You have people commenting that this game should’ve never been made. Imagine being an Arkham fan anticipating a video game 9 years after the greatest superhero gameplay you’ve experienced only for it to be a looter shooter. Not to mention the amount of teasers from other superheroes and a literal name drop of Superman himself in Arkham Knight. With the amount of hate this game is getting and other highly anticipated games releasing after this one, I’d be surprised if this game makes it past this month.
I haven't played the game, and after watching the video I don't intend to, it feels horrible and wrong looking how Harley Quinn and company treat Batman's body, the disdain, the awful jokes, it feels wrong, I am wrong for feeling like this?? I just love the Arkham Batman; I played the character, he was a good man,he had a soul, he never killed people even the bad ones, the villains, he believed that everyone deserves a second chance, and watching him treated like that, like a trash bag, it hurts awful. Man I was without a word watching how they piss on the Flash body, but Batman... he was dear to me, at least the Arkham version. He's embodiment of a hero a beacon of hope, he never deserved be treated like trash.
Wait, how is a Batman Brainiac boss going to work? Oh no! Their not gonna do a Iblis Batman rehash where it's just some head and torso swinging it's arms at you are they?! That is so lazy, it sounds like what they would do!😡
The comment about Deadshot being white was just disrespectful: a big middle finger from Sweet Baby and the new Rocksteady. It's literally never explained and just race swapping for the sake of doing it and probably an attempt to hook in all the normies who only saw Will Smith as him in the movie. This game has so many things wrong with it 😞
Sweet Baby Inc reminds me of Q5, the focus group who ruined kids cartoons in the 80s. Two of the shows they completely ruined were Pound Puppies and Real Ghostbusters. Ironically, after ruining these shows and angering the fans and viewers, Q5 vanished into obscurity. To this day, people are still very angry with Q5. If you want to know what Q5 did to Real Ghostbusters, look up the vid "The Real Ghostbusters: The Bad episodes." Apparently Q5 were called in to "fix" the show even though there was nothing wrong with the show. It was awesome, it had 100% ratings, everyone loved it, no problems at all, then after Q5 tampered with it, the ratings dropped and it fell apart. My guess is that Q5 found nothing wrong with the show, so rather than say "looks great, keep it up", they decided to "find" something wrong that wasn't there.
I don’t know what happened to rocksteady . But they def are not the same company they once were ! And letting sweet baby inc in to do a lot of the game is prob a sure sign of it ! It’s like the sold their soul ! Because this doesn’t not feel like it has that old school feel of the older arkham games , like maybe this game started off way different and then mid way they might have changed up the type of game it was
instead of a superman game like you suggested, it should another batman arkham game where he has to take down mind controlled justice league. the gameplay is you as batman implementing the contingency plan.
Thank you for saying that most people don’t want to kill the JL at all! These are heroes and icons to millions across the world and unceremoniously killing theses heroes was a terrible concept from the start.
I honestly think thsi game couldve been at least a bit better if it wasnt tied to the Arkham verse and we just killed an actual evil justice league i think that would’ve done better but nah rocksteady just had to go and say nah this is tied to the arkham verse which completely ruins it, cause leaks say they were clones ok fine but its funny cause superman killed the real wonder woman batman possibly killed the entire bat family and possibly more we dont even know anything about the other members of the justice league either i just feel tying it to the Arkham verse the worst decision in gaming
I GOTTA SAY -- The game's narrative does feel familiar to Batman: Arkham Asylum. Think about it: the Squad have no character development, and are really just running around fighting and defeating their respective enemies, much like Batman in Arkham Asylum. I'm sure this was Rocksteady's blueprint. Remake Batman: Arkham Asylum with the Suicide Squad. Oh shit. Just writing this out has made me realize how bad of an idea this game is...
The fact that Braniac turned into the flash is the most live servicey thing ever. Now you know everytime you fight him he's just gonna take the form of another one of the justice league. So trash man
I am so happy I am never going to play this game and I am glad this game is failing in so many ways this is revenge for what they did to Batman this is exactly what rocksteady deserves.
I remember back in 2018 hearing rumors of Rocksteady making an original IP for their best game so there might be some truth to SS starting off as a different thing
Can we start a #make_ssktjl_uncanon campaign or something like that I know i can pretend this is not canon and move on But i can't And i usually never comment on a UA-cam video i think the last time I did was 3 years ago but i needed you guys to see this because you can actually talk with the fans through your videos and tell them about the campaign
For the future of gaming, I hope this game loses Rocksteady as much money as possible and causes Rocksteady to go out of business. Never buy from Rocksteady again.
The worst part about it is that fighting endless brainiac goons and tanks wouldnt have been that bad if we were flying around mowing them down as superman, with his laser beams and ice breath. The third person shooter styler wouldve even fit with his lasers. HELL they could have even given him his own detective mode gimmick with x-ray vision. So much wasted potential.
This game is insult to Arkham universe and Batman tbh . I still think maybe the last dlc story they will bring the whole JL back and we can play as them for 1 mission to plan for a future JL game only .
They could have made at least the game full of different members of the Justice League other than core ones. It might have been fun to fight Doctor Fate, Hawkman, Orion, Power Girl, Blue Beatle, Plastic Man, Mister Miracle the list goes on.
The thing that's so strange about this is they made really good games before this---the Arkham games, the Injustice series, heck even Mortal Kombat vs. the DC Universe wasn't a complete flop! Did losing two of their top voice actors affect them that much? There's just so much they could do with these characters, worlds, and stories. I wish they'd stop focusing on ESG or whatever quotas WB thinks they need to focus on and just tell good stories and make good games. You mentioned them going the Marvel route, but for the most part, I like DC's willingness to explore and try new things. Their creative decisions seem less corporate controlled than Marvel, especially since Marvel is now owned by Disney and has been pushing "social justice" stories for the past few years--there's honestly only so many girl bosses, character assassinations, and ruining of beloved franchises that people can stomach before they decide to watch something else. I think DC should be going to those places other companies are afraid to go. A "Black Label" video game would be nice on and on brand for both DC and Rocksteady.
There's a rumor that they wanted to make a batman beyond game but it got canned and there's another rumor that james gunn was appart of the game creation
The intro of batman fighting rash at the beginning of gotham knights now feels like true cinema compared to the best parts of this trash. At least gotham knights respected what was expected to be respected
where does Rocksteady go, after this slow motion train wreck concludes? everybody’s known, since the reveal in 2020, what would happen, and it’s happened. sales will be dismal, so DLC sales will be dismal, but the game will still need support. how does Rocksteady survive this?
Literally eveyone knew it was gonna suck...saw it coming a mile away and people fr still paid extra to play it early and realize it blows like advertises. ..early lol if you slap a "exclucivity" label on anything nowadays, a line of zombies will always line up to give you a quick payout to be the first person it dissappoints lol
1:03:00 Honestly I think there needs to be some kind of how to handle social media class in schools as part of the general education now. But yeah unless your job is specifically to handle the social media account for a game, everyone else including the lead devs needs to keep their mouths shut.
Here me out…..Justice League: Divided. You play as four members of the Justice League who didn’t get captured by brainiac and have to initiate Batman’s protocols to take down your fellow teammates so you can free them of the control. I’m thinking Cyborg or Manhunter in king sharks spot, Flash or another green lantern for boomerang, Batman, Arrow or Nightwing for Deadshot WIP, and for Harley it could be Wonder Woman, Hawk girl, Zatanna, Huntress, or Supergirl
15:45 My problem from what i've seen from the story. This is basically the same thing that happened at the end of injustice 2. Even injustice did that a lot more better. Shit at least injustice finished the story. That game got dlc for years. Only thing that's different about the story is that the suicide squad is the main story , not the injustice story. I love superhero games, but that doesn't really make me want to play the game at all.
… it’s all about Money… shareholders and execs… Dint play games and don’t know what we as gamers want… they push out what they “Think” we like/want… it’s a shame and it will keep happening until we make it change
games take too long to make these days. they went on board with the Suicide Squad movie hype train and wanted to make money off of it, but a lot changes in 7 years and they became stuck to the original plan that no one wanted, no one asked for, instead of doing what fans DID want, DID ask for, which is Arkham Origins' sequels. and now all these years wasted on Suicide Squad when we could've gotten another Origins instead. i still want Origins' sequels, but i am worried, extremely, what kind of writing we'd get with it, what kind of story and what kind of characterization this generation of developers would give us, because lately everything from movies to games has been a shit-show of snowflakes and woke propaganda. there's no edge anymore, no consequences in stories and characters, no depth, no passionate detail in little things, and if we do get some consequences they're aimed at the wrong thing, trying to make the wrong kind of a point. enough already. we need passionate developers who understand the lore, who are fans of the lore, who put their heart and soul into the art of gaming, who have played and/or worked on the original 4 Arkham games and actually want to continue the story that the Origins started and Knight finished, to give is the long overdue, long awaited Origins' sequels, because that's what WE WANT. and we want it done right. also i will always love Riddler in Arkham games, but my favourite version of him (and lot of other characters, if not all characters really) is in Origins. he's not obsessive or mental, he's actually being smart and trying to manipulate and blackmail people and i love him for that. i want more of him like that. i want more of any villains and heroes the Origins could've given us with sequels. i just want more Origins.
I think you guys are too optimistic that Rocksteady will make a Justice league game. It took nearly a decade for them to release this. They don’t even have enough time to course correct on this game. Even if they decided to undo the narrative it would take a long ass time. If the numbers drop off as expected they won’t sink money into it because there’s no profit. I also don’t think Rocksteady this intentionally to kill the arkham verse. I think heads at wb games and rocksteady thought this was a great idea. I don’t think rocksteady would have wasted 9 years just to make a bad game so they can do a new ip. If this was another studio I could see this causing a studio shutdown. I can definitely see this causing layoffs.
46:21 if they really were to make a new universe, I don’t think it can be with Rocksteady in its current state. I think it would have to be with the whatever new studio the original founders are making.
If I had the job to story wise somehow undo what they did. One possibility, which won't help this particular game, but can help a future game is that this was a bad movie released in the Arkham world, and the real Harley Quinn seeing this movie and how it brings damage to her reputation as a villainess and her relations with other criminals it drives her so mad sge goes out of her way to kill the director of this movie for how it insulted her and her friends. Enter scene where she hunts down the director and bombs the original footage. Enter Nightwing to take her down before she continues more chaos and we can continue a story of what the world is like with an absent Batman.
Even when they face brainiac im thinking to myself. So they can fight him while he is acting as the flash. And live and take the damage from him while they try to shoot him. Survive and succeed and live on to fight multiple other brainiacs in other universes buuuuuutt the justice league cant? I would have much rather who they kill to be clones of all the members. Free the real ones then work together to defeat brainiac. That way at least we kinda can play with the league members and suicide squad.
IT IS VERY POSSIBLE that James Gunn was aware of how bad this game would be. After all, there's the old saying "it's going to get worse before it gets better." I'm sure Gunn is in that camp now. He knows DC must go through an extremely rough patch before it can be on the path to redemption... enter: SUPERMAN LEGACY.
They should’ve made evil Batman the villain! Batman is killed upon his death the knights vengeance protocol contingency is initiated. Somewhere underneath the Bat cave gas is released from a sarcophagus, inside is a meta-human enhanced clone of Bruce Wayne. A kill list is being downloaded along with other instructions inside a neuralink chip. One of the instructions is to deliver his predecessor to a Lazarus pit!
This to me sets a precedent for DC content moving forward under the James Gunn regime, to keep my expectations super low, or worse…..to expect more crap on the way. As if the previous DC movie flops were not indicative of that, this most certainly is for me. We were eating good once upon a time as DC fans, during the old days of the JL unlimited, Batman, Batman Beyond, and the Arkham games. Now with the sludge pile of movies from the Snyder verse, and the recent Gotham Knights, and this game, it’s hard to have hope for the future.
We all waited since 2015, almost 9 years later to be presented with a steaming pile of poo poo! That Damien Waynes game would have been awesome and would have achieved far greater success then SSKTJL.
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad new but they did ruin arkham joker. In a multiverse tie in with the main comic batman an alternate reality joker hops though universes bring dead jokers back to life and they stop in the arkham universe. And arkham batman talks about how he's back.
Audio quality from 2006. Very nostalgic.
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The race-swapping is a problem, the only reason for these dumbass race-swaps and gender-swaps is to get brownie points with the mentally ill woke crowd
I agree with most of this, and honestly it makes me hate that DC and WB are the only companies that have rights to these characters. So many fantastic stories could be told with every single one of them, including the Joker.
Considering the co-founders of Rocksteady left the studio to form their own studio and brought many of the original devs with them, it isn't really surprising how this game turnout.
What’s the name of the studio
@@anymeans82 The new studio is called Hundred Star Games.
@@ManualSword I appreciate it
Yea makes me worried with gta 6 and rockstar leslie benzies left and made his own studio and game, I’m sure the game will look pretty and have details unimaginable but the story and tone of the game will it have “woke” elements and such of course many other devs left like lazlow and Dan houser, I feel the writing of the game won’t be the same as previous games
@@EternalNightingaleoffcourse not
Maybe we treated gotham knights too harshly.
Honestly
@@theotherguy21 indeed
No we didn’t. Both games are utter dogshit
@BigChungus-gz9vw true but gotham knights honestly did have a better story
Maybe😂
Can we please have the Boy Scout Superman back, I miss the days where he was just a good boy
Did you watch my adventures with superman
Evil superman stories are way too played out
Best superman is nice guy superman
@@Lauren007E agreed. Evil superman type stories are so played out & boring
@@thebigal123 which is more interesting? Inhuman alien monster doing monstrous things?
Or alien refugee doing his best to help protect the world that accepted him and loved him, making it a safer world for everyone else because he can and the people of earth deserve to live in peace
We could’ve gotten a Superman game, or even a Batman Beyond story with Terry Miginus fighting Damian Wayne for the cowl both of those are much better ideas and what’s even worse is THE PEICES FOR BATMAN BEYOND WAS ALREADY IN PLACE SINCE ARKHAM KNIGHT
miginus😭
I think Dick Grayson is the natural Batman successor
@@jackhughes9811 too bad Batman probably killed him. Thanks rocksteady
nathanhendrickson790 Rocksteady was never developing a Superman game
Agreed
Imagine this was a “tower of the babel” game with flashbacks to how Superman and the rest of the league recruited Batman. Wow the game we got was disappointing
With the tower of babel story already out there, how do you spend so much time making this absolute slog of a piece of garbage game? 13 brainiacs? Live service? Wtf
What this game really messes up is the fact that the movie "assult on arkham" was cannon to the arkham movies and waller dies in that as well as it having the white deadshot and when batman shows up it turns into a mini horror movie cause the suicide squad has no plan for him except run and run fast. And king shark dies in that movie to if i remember correctly.
Guardians of the galaxy is the perfect antithesis of this game. Their characters all had an arch and they used the brainwashed characters trope to show why they love these characters, like going in each person’s head and freeing them. SSKTJL used the brainwash trope to why show why they hate these characters.
maybe we treated gotham knights to harshly
Wrong
Nope it got treated accordingly
No suicide squad is just another example of how you don't make a superhero game.
It stands right next to Gotham knights and Marvel's Avengers.
Damn someone copied your comment lol
At least gotham knights gave batman some respect. Even though we never got to see his version, he was given a heroic death. Maybe wb montreal should make the batman games instead of rocksteady
Uh, HELL to the no. Just cuz they gave their Batman some respect, that doesn't mean they understand the character and his mythos; they don't. Gotham Knights proved that.
@@sup3414Um they definitely understand the character. Gotham Knights problems come from making a Batman game without Batman, and trying to make a gutted live service game.
@@sup3414 did you forget they did the best of the series arkham origins?
@@jrob4795 Oh really? Then why did the devs make the NPCs of Gotham Knights talk abiut how Batman is nothing more than a rich white guy who only beats up poor people every night? Why did they have Lucius Fox in one of Bruce's audio logs questioning if he should work for a white man? Why did the devs make Bruce say that cringe SJW speech to the Court towards the end of the game before dying yet again? Why did they stupidly made Batman stab himself with Ra's sword in the intro when he would've escaped him another way without inflicting damage on himself? They don't understand Batman.
@@robogreek3157 Except that the team that made GK are not the same ones that made Origins. Those devs left a long time ago.
LETS GOO!! Posting mine tomorrow!
Its honestly disgusting that Gotham Knights literally showed more respect to Batman than Rocksteady.
Warner is stupid asf putting this trash out. We could have had Conroy's final Batman game be old Bruce Wayne mentoring a Terry McGuiness in Batman Beyond. What a shame. Rocksteady definitely fell off.
Stop the beyond crap....don't you get it. PEOPLE WANT TO PLAY AS BRUCE WAYNE.... JUST LIKE PEOPLE WANT TO PLAY AS PETER PARKER.... NOT TERRY OR MILES
@@robogreek3157 Terry is an actual well written character with development. Miles is not. Dont conflate the two.
@@Mondoness who cares. Why would anyone want a batman game without Bruce wayne it's dumb. That's his story... although I've never been a fan of sidekicks anyways. Just remaster or port origins my favorite one
@@robogreek3157 quit whining to me, it was just a suggestion and a hell of a lot better other than this god awful crap game Sushi Squad
Because of this game I finally got the motivation to write a superman game. I'ma write a flash game next
make sure he hates cops, doesn’t represent the american way, Make lois lane the main character and make superman apologise every 5 seconds
@@zaherking0159Soyperman!
😂😂😂😂
@zaherking0159 nobody likes cops. They're like teachers. Most of them are just zombies going through the motions. Hence, why we only like the "cool" ones, ya know, the ones that actually care. The ones that stand out.
Spider-Man and Batman have been at odds with the police for decades before woke was woke. By definition, that's what a vigilante is.
@@zaherking0159what even is the American way, anymore? "Paying someone else to do it"? Ya know Superman is an alien, right? An immigrant. A refugee. What even is woke, anymore? Ya know... entertainment was always propaganda, right?
I see Gotham Knights like _The Rise of Skywalker:_ They really tried to do a good job, but it's so UTTERLY incompetent and poorly executed.
While Suicide Squad: KTJL is like _The Last Jedi:_ More technically proficient, but intentionally disrespectful to the fanbase and anyone who paid money for it.
At the very least we can say it isn't Saints Row, which is _She Hulk: Attorney at Law_ or _Velma:_ Extremely incompetent on every single level AND disrespectful to its fanbase, as well as everyone else. (And yes, I know that's not a Star Wars analogy, but literally nothing on streaming is worse than She Hulk or Velma.)
There’s a leak that has flash’s voice saying “Why am I back. Bruce said Waller hates us” so he’s pretty much brought back to life so none of these deaths will matter.
This also brings the point of wtf was this game made if all of it didn’t matter what was the point of killing them then all of sudden were back we were fine this entire time the game is just a massive waste of time, also mot to mention if this is tied to to the Arkham verse not only was it for nothing the actual wonder woman died same for the bat family robin got killed so basically rocksteady just killed the Arkham verse
@@Notwedsquid I will say this if you’re a die hard Arkham fan stay away from this cause the story will just frustrate you and probably make you quit before Harley even pulls the trigger. However and this is at the very least bottom of the barrel credit I can give this. As a looter shooter fan there is something there. This game does have the makings of a half decent 3rd person looter shooter. The problem is the main thing these types of games need is length of stay you have to keep your audience playing for as long possible and suicide squad is working against itself with its piss poor writing. Yes the loot aspect and endgame is fine but no comic book or Arkham fan is gonna reach that point cause you already pissed them off and pushed them away they have no motivation to keep playing because you ripped that motivation straight out of them. I’m one of the few Arkham fans who managed to push through the dumpster fire writing and I at least found a half decent looter shooter and a fine endgame but it’s not gonna change any minds. If you want a decent story followed up by a good looter shooter just play the borderlands games or wait till more seasons drop. At max this game is only worth 30 dollars as it is in a dollar per hour ratio. (1 dollar equals 1 hour so if a game costs 70 dollars that’s the minimum amount of time I expect to be entertained, however I only got 30 hours worth of entertainment out of it) so wait till it’s worth that price or it’s free in game pass don’t do what I did it’s not worth it.
@@nathanhendrickson790 trust me I won’t waste money on this game at all the only thing I will praise this game is the movement and the gunplay.
love both of y'all man. Thank y'all for keeping us entertained
how the fuck is this 85% positive on steam
shills
I'm gonna lie, that's kinda funny.
just wait a bit more for rude awakening. Also, it could also Steam censoring review bombs requested by WB & Wokesteady.
Sounds like they've been doing some active...selective review deletion to improve the standing of the game on steam.
I hope they make Nightwing solo game which Nightwing maybe creating titans to fight deathstroke
Have Nightwing go up against Deathstroke or Talon or possibly even Raptor? 🤔 I'd love to play that game with the Arkham Knight graphics and engine and battle system 🤔
if this game is canon its quite possible nightwing is dead.
From what I've seen, Tim is toast @@EdgeO419
@EdgeO419 Oh yeah, true you've got a point there. This game should have been a Terry McGinnis Batman Beyond narrative anyway and have a proper send-off for Kevin Conroy that way instead of unceremoniously getting his brain blown out by the "3rd best member of Sushi Squad"
Slc and Salvo are like the dynamic duo of Arkham content
Suicide Squad: Buy the Expansion.
Sefton Hill & friends wanted to create Batman Beyond game with Damian as Batman & Bruce as his mentor so I highly doubt they wanted to tarnished decades of long standing history of their own biggest creation Batman Arkhamverse. That's very nonsensical even for a rebellious action. I believe they left from the very fact that indeed WB & Sweet Baby Inc sabotaged the whole project. All of the contradictory canons (like black deadshot) was literally a direct command from WB to fit Hollywood agendas. Black deadshot actually happened because of Will Smith's deadshot (SS movie), in which this info has been in public long time. Also, another "Brainiac" & Evil Superman plots are pretty much WB shenanigans. It happened already multiple times, particularly in Injustice games. How much are you willing to bet next James Gunn DCCU will involve one of those 13 Brainiacs!?
If real Rocksteady wanted to really create proper SS game, then it would have been more like "Assault on Arkham" (this movie is way more canon btw) instead of "Kill The Justice League."
I’m glad y’all mentioned some of the devs on Twitter. I don’t understand why they feel the need to defend themselves and hate on people who don’t like the game. One was an environment designer and they acted like the fans were sending them death threats over it. It’s just acting like a victim in some cases. We want the devs who were responsible for the story to be fired, not random devs that had no part in the games story.
Been watching Slcmof’s videos for years, watching the theorising about what Rocksteady and WB Games Montréal’s next game could be, all the leaks, revelations about cancelled games and now we finally get Gotham Knights and the Suicide Squad game and I’m so disappointed. All these years of waiting just to be given these lacklustre games.
Want to know why Harley was immune to the fear toxin?.. she's female..
Harley has an immunity to certain things due to Poison Ivy injecting her with the antidote she gave her back in Animated Series which apparently that specific scene is suppose to be Canon to Harley. The antidote pretty much overwrote Harley's DNA making her immune to many diseases and other environmental substances so that could be why. However, it did infect her in the Injustice Games which she was able to recover from pretty quickly.
Joker died in arkam city in a fucked up way, but it was still good a death with care... Batman was treated worse than joker??😢
Different writer
I mean, to be honest, if the dead League members end up being clones, or whatever, and they come back to set up a future game…….i don’t know if I would play it considering the level of story telling on display in the SS game. I don’t know if Rocksteady has what it takes. They are clearly not the same company they were a decade ago. They have A LOT of work to do if they ever hope to regain the trust of the fan base….and I’m not convinced they will. Quite frankly, I don’t think they’ll even survive as a company if we’re to believe the increase in demands for refunds of the game. They pulled an Amber Heard and royally shat the bed.
It's already been leaked that they are coming back
Regardless people will complain
@@eznf98 is it confirmed that the JL from the Arkham verse will be coming back tho? Or is it just a RANDOM elseworld JL team that will come take their place? I’m curious to know.
@angelodilullo7591 heard that every season after the first one 1 will come back
Not sure though
But will be funny when everyone complains that they killed them
Then complains they brought them back
@@eznf98this brings the question why make the game at that point and from watching the story not only did you kill clones you killed the real Wonder Woman the real robin possibly bat woman nightwing and red hood
@WedSquid did they actually say he killed them or they just show Robin's mask? I haven't gotten that far
🤣 devs throwing a fit? I noticed this started around 2016... Ghostbusters..
The Twinkler is a literal alchemical chimera of Alastor design and Angel Dust personality, with just a little sprinkle of Niffty insanity.
One thing I've not seen anyone talk about is the fact that Rocksteady undermines it's own premise within it's own game. By having Wonder Woman beat the crap out of the Suicide Squad EXTREMELY easily without breaking a sweat at the start of the game, the Squad bear 0 threat from that point on. She's on equal ground with the rest of the League, if she can do that while holding back and not killing, there's no reason to think the Squad could survive facing ANY of the JL, so it becomes frustrating and insulting when they do.
Reminder that in Assault on Arkham.
Riddler figured out a way to escape the Squad without his head getting blown off. And even helped the other members of the Squad remove their bombs. Riddler would never want to be part of the Squad
Dude is right, they need to light a match and start from scratch at this point. Make a new game universe with Batman in a Long Halloween/Dark Victory year 2 or 3 timeline, and have Superman make a cameo in the end, then make a Superman game that is basically an adaptation of the Birthright storyline, with a cameo from the original JL (Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Flash, Green Arrow, Aquaman)trying to recruit him in the end, leading to a JL game with Superman as dlc or something.
Slcmof my og Batman gaming channel content creator. Litearly been watching since grade 7 2014
Great video
This game is a disaster on so many levels. Gameplay, concept to story are all wrong.
Y’all nailed it, seems Rocksteady was forced to make something they didn’t want to make and maybe didn’t know how to make. Also many good people left the studio. They could have made Batman using contingency plan to stop brainwashed Justice League and then we play as them over the rest of game (or seasons IF they needed to do live service but yuck).
They clearly forced the guns into the game for RNG stat rolls and chasing Destiny looter shooter drops.
The story was thrown together with no knowledge of the characters with Green Lanterns ring going to Shark, Penguin making weapons, every hero gets a terrible death & pissed on except female wonder woman while Lex Luthors log says hes hates toxic masculinity & likes the Amazons.
This game wasn’t made with love & care it was a cash grab forced by CEOs and management.
Sad Rocksteady went down like this. Encourage everyone to save their time & money and avoid this. Go back and play old Batman Arkham games if you want a great superhero game that still holds up over time.
*Miller has recently said that the spoilers he said happen in the DLC and not the main story mode. I feel like he should've mentioned that sooner. Let's see if he ends up being right or not once all the DLC is out.*
I feel like regardless if that does happen. It still wouldn’t change the amount of hate this game is receiving. If anything, players are iust gonna question why the return of the justice league was a DLC and not in the base game.
@real.Z267 People are mad that the JL are dead. And are mad that they died the way they did. If Rocksteady reveals that the real JL is still alive, that would ofc make a lot of people happy. There may be people who are annoyed since it's a cop out. But a cop out to their deaths is better than them actually dying.
@@ZWorksFinei understand what your point is, but people are mad about the structure of this game as well. That’s what I mean regarding that it isn’t going to change the amount of hate the game is receiving. You have people commenting that this game should’ve never been made. Imagine being an Arkham fan anticipating a video game 9 years after the greatest superhero gameplay you’ve experienced only for it to be a looter shooter. Not to mention the amount of teasers from other superheroes and a literal name drop of Superman himself in Arkham Knight.
With the amount of hate this game is getting and other highly anticipated games releasing after this one, I’d be surprised if this game makes it past this month.
I haven't played the game, and after watching the video I don't intend to, it feels horrible and wrong looking how Harley Quinn and company treat Batman's body, the disdain, the awful jokes, it feels wrong, I am wrong for feeling like this?? I just love the Arkham Batman; I played the character, he was a good man,he had a soul, he never killed people even the bad ones, the villains, he believed that everyone deserves a second chance, and watching him treated like that, like a trash bag, it hurts awful. Man I was without a word watching how they piss on the Flash body, but Batman... he was dear to me, at least the Arkham version. He's embodiment of a hero a beacon of hope, he never deserved be treated like trash.
You’re not wrong to feel that way. I agree. It’s disgusting.
Wait, how is a Batman Brainiac boss going to work?
Oh no!
Their not gonna do a Iblis Batman rehash where it's just some head and torso swinging it's arms at you are they?!
That is so lazy, it sounds like what they would do!😡
This game is insulting to DC fans
The comment about Deadshot being white was just disrespectful: a big middle finger from Sweet Baby and the new Rocksteady. It's literally never explained and just race swapping for the sake of doing it and probably an attempt to hook in all the normies who only saw Will Smith as him in the movie. This game has so many things wrong with it 😞
Playing both sides would of been dope.
There is zero chance the creative team already on board wanted to involve Sweet Baby Inc, this was corporate involvement.
The CEO of Sweet Baby Inc wrote the script for the game, look it up
Sweet Baby Inc reminds me of Q5, the focus group who ruined kids cartoons in the 80s. Two of the shows they completely ruined were Pound Puppies and Real Ghostbusters.
Ironically, after ruining these shows and angering the fans and viewers, Q5 vanished into obscurity.
To this day, people are still very angry with Q5.
If you want to know what Q5 did to Real Ghostbusters, look up the vid "The Real Ghostbusters: The Bad episodes." Apparently Q5 were called in to "fix" the show even though there was nothing wrong with the show. It was awesome, it had 100% ratings, everyone loved it, no problems at all, then after Q5 tampered with it, the ratings dropped and it fell apart.
My guess is that Q5 found nothing wrong with the show, so rather than say "looks great, keep it up", they decided to "find" something wrong that wasn't there.
I don’t know what happened to rocksteady . But they def are not the same company they once were ! And letting sweet baby inc in to do a lot of the game is prob a sure sign of it ! It’s like the sold their soul ! Because this doesn’t not feel like it has that old school feel of the older arkham games , like maybe this game started off way different and then mid way they might have changed up the type of game it was
I wish they would have made a Arkham game with Deathstroke working for Lex Luthor or Amanda Waller.
This whole thing brings aliens to alien 3 disrespect to the world and characters
instead of a superman game like you suggested, it should another batman arkham game where he has to take down mind controlled justice league. the gameplay is you as batman implementing the contingency plan.
Remember James Gunn himself said this isn't last Arkham universe game
It is said they proposed a Superman game, which was refused.
They said this game has kore cutscenes and bigger map than Arkham knight but doesn't matter if you do NOTHING with it
Gotham knights talking about SSKTJL: “You couldn’t live with your own failure. So where did that lead you? Back to me.”
They gave y’all Fortnite joker 😂😂😂😂
Thank you for saying that most people don’t want to kill the JL at all! These are heroes and icons to millions across the world and unceremoniously killing theses heroes was a terrible concept from the start.
I honestly think thsi game couldve been at least a bit better if it wasnt tied to the Arkham verse and we just killed an actual evil justice league i think that would’ve done better but nah rocksteady just had to go and say nah this is tied to the arkham verse which completely ruins it, cause leaks say they were clones ok fine but its funny cause superman killed the real wonder woman batman possibly killed the entire bat family and possibly more we dont even know anything about the other members of the justice league either i just feel tying it to the Arkham verse the worst decision in gaming
I GOTTA SAY -- The game's narrative does feel familiar to Batman: Arkham Asylum. Think about it: the Squad have no character development, and are really just running around fighting and defeating their respective enemies, much like Batman in Arkham Asylum. I'm sure this was Rocksteady's blueprint. Remake Batman: Arkham Asylum with the Suicide Squad. Oh shit. Just writing this out has made me realize how bad of an idea this game is...
An hour+ of you two? See, NOW we're talkin 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I would definitely say that it wasn’t even a rocksteady idea but I’ll say that it was sweet baby Inc.
It's interesting to see how WB games picture Australians looks at thier Captain Boomerang and recent KANO depictions.
The fact that Braniac turned into the flash is the most live servicey thing ever. Now you know everytime you fight him he's just gonna take the form of another one of the justice league. So trash man
Jokes on you, hope always leads to disappointment.
I am so happy I am never going to play this game and I am glad this game is failing in so many ways this is revenge for what they did to Batman this is exactly what rocksteady deserves.
I remember back in 2018 hearing rumors of Rocksteady making an original IP for their best game so there might be some truth to SS starting off as a different thing
"and then we just get fxxking guard broken 10x harder because he lied"
That hit different
Can we start a #make_ssktjl_uncanon campaign or something like that
I know i can pretend this is not canon and move on
But i can't
And i usually never comment on a UA-cam video i think the last time I did was 3 years ago but i needed you guys to see this because you can actually talk with the fans through your videos and tell them about the campaign
Cope
What makes the most sense to me is that they stayed on simply to wait until their new studio was set up, and then take the talent with them.
For the future of gaming, I hope this game loses Rocksteady as much money as possible and causes Rocksteady to go out of business.
Never buy from Rocksteady again.
The worst part about it is that fighting endless brainiac goons and tanks wouldnt have been that bad if we were flying around mowing them down as superman, with his laser beams and ice breath. The third person shooter styler wouldve even fit with his lasers. HELL they could have even given him his own detective mode gimmick with x-ray vision. So much wasted potential.
This game is insult to Arkham universe and Batman tbh . I still think maybe the last dlc story they will bring the whole JL back and we can play as them for 1 mission to plan for a future JL game only .
I don't even really recognize any of this as connecting to the DCU even, let alone the arkhamverse.
This is just an abuse of writing.
They could have made at least the game full of different members of the Justice League other than core ones. It might have been fun to fight Doctor Fate, Hawkman, Orion, Power Girl, Blue Beatle, Plastic Man, Mister Miracle the list goes on.
The thing that's so strange about this is they made really good games before this---the Arkham games, the Injustice series, heck even Mortal Kombat vs. the DC Universe wasn't a complete flop! Did losing two of their top voice actors affect them that much? There's just so much they could do with these characters, worlds, and stories. I wish they'd stop focusing on ESG or whatever quotas WB thinks they need to focus on and just tell good stories and make good games.
You mentioned them going the Marvel route, but for the most part, I like DC's willingness to explore and try new things. Their creative decisions seem less corporate controlled than Marvel, especially since Marvel is now owned by Disney and has been pushing "social justice" stories for the past few years--there's honestly only so many girl bosses, character assassinations, and ruining of beloved franchises that people can stomach before they decide to watch something else. I think DC should be going to those places other companies are afraid to go. A "Black Label" video game would be nice on and on brand for both DC and Rocksteady.
There's a rumor that they wanted to make a batman beyond game but it got canned and there's another rumor that james gunn was appart of the game creation
The intro of batman fighting rash at the beginning of gotham knights now feels like true cinema compared to the best parts of this trash. At least gotham knights respected what was expected to be respected
where does Rocksteady go, after this slow motion train wreck concludes?
everybody’s known, since the reveal in 2020, what would happen, and it’s happened.
sales will be dismal, so DLC sales will be dismal, but the game will still need support.
how does Rocksteady survive this?
Literally eveyone knew it was gonna suck...saw it coming a mile away and people fr still paid extra to play it early and realize it blows like advertises. ..early lol if you slap a "exclucivity" label on anything nowadays, a line of zombies will always line up to give you a quick payout to be the first person it dissappoints lol
1:03:00 Honestly I think there needs to be some kind of how to handle social media class in schools as part of the general education now. But yeah unless your job is specifically to handle the social media account for a game, everyone else including the lead devs needs to keep their mouths shut.
Here me out…..Justice League: Divided. You play as four members of the Justice League who didn’t get captured by brainiac and have to initiate Batman’s protocols to take down your fellow teammates so you can free them of the control. I’m thinking Cyborg or Manhunter in king sharks spot, Flash or another green lantern for boomerang, Batman, Arrow or Nightwing for Deadshot WIP, and for Harley it could be Wonder Woman, Hawk girl, Zatanna, Huntress, or Supergirl
10:30 im sure wb would kill batman if they could i mean cmon they did it in their movies and treated batfleck like crap , dont treat wb lightly
15:45 My problem from what i've seen from the story. This is basically the same thing that happened at the end of injustice 2. Even injustice did that a lot more better. Shit at least injustice finished the story. That game got dlc for years. Only thing that's different about the story is that the suicide squad is the main story , not the injustice story. I love superhero games, but that doesn't really make me want to play the game at all.
I remember when the worse thing we got waa arkham origins
*sigh*
This is why you don't hire activists at dev studios
'Sweet Baby Inc..' The poison pill for any gaming franchise.
Sweet Baby Inc....
Y'all treated Gotham Knights too Harshly
Id give both testicles to be able to give us project sabbath, even if it was gonna be mediocre.
… it’s all about Money… shareholders and execs… Dint play games and don’t know what we as gamers want… they push out what they “Think” we like/want… it’s a shame and it will keep happening until we make it change
On point. We waited 9 yrs for this game no one wanted.
games take too long to make these days. they went on board with the Suicide Squad movie hype train and wanted to make money off of it, but a lot changes in 7 years and they became stuck to the original plan that no one wanted, no one asked for, instead of doing what fans DID want, DID ask for, which is Arkham Origins' sequels. and now all these years wasted on Suicide Squad when we could've gotten another Origins instead. i still want Origins' sequels, but i am worried, extremely, what kind of writing we'd get with it, what kind of story and what kind of characterization this generation of developers would give us, because lately everything from movies to games has been a shit-show of snowflakes and woke propaganda. there's no edge anymore, no consequences in stories and characters, no depth, no passionate detail in little things, and if we do get some consequences they're aimed at the wrong thing, trying to make the wrong kind of a point. enough already.
we need passionate developers who understand the lore, who are fans of the lore, who put their heart and soul into the art of gaming, who have played and/or worked on the original 4 Arkham games and actually want to continue the story that the Origins started and Knight finished, to give is the long overdue, long awaited Origins' sequels, because that's what WE WANT. and we want it done right.
also i will always love Riddler in Arkham games, but my favourite version of him (and lot of other characters, if not all characters really) is in Origins. he's not obsessive or mental, he's actually being smart and trying to manipulate and blackmail people and i love him for that. i want more of him like that. i want more of any villains and heroes the Origins could've given us with sequels. i just want more Origins.
Honestly I feel gameplay wise, Deadshot is fan favorite.
I think you guys are too optimistic that Rocksteady will make a Justice league game. It took nearly a decade for them to release this. They don’t even have enough time to course correct on this game. Even if they decided to undo the narrative it would take a long ass time. If the numbers drop off as expected they won’t sink money into it because there’s no profit. I also don’t think Rocksteady this intentionally to kill the arkham verse. I think heads at wb games and rocksteady thought this was a great idea. I don’t think rocksteady would have wasted 9 years just to make a bad game so they can do a new ip. If this was another studio I could see this causing a studio shutdown. I can definitely see this causing layoffs.
It’s been Marvelfied
46:21 if they really were to make a new universe, I don’t think it can be with Rocksteady in its current state. I think it would have to be with the whatever new studio the original founders are making.
A couple years ago you mean 10 years ago rocksteady isnt the same team
If I had the job to story wise somehow undo what they did. One possibility, which won't help this particular game, but can help a future game is that this was a bad movie released in the Arkham world, and the real Harley Quinn seeing this movie and how it brings damage to her reputation as a villainess and her relations with other criminals it drives her so mad sge goes out of her way to kill the director of this movie for how it insulted her and her friends. Enter scene where she hunts down the director and bombs the original footage. Enter Nightwing to take her down before she continues more chaos and we can continue a story of what the world is like with an absent Batman.
The Justice league glaze Superman every audio log , even Batman.
Delist it and let fall through the cracks of history. Make the Damien Wayne game and pretend this mess never happened.
Even when they face brainiac im thinking to myself. So they can fight him while he is acting as the flash. And live and take the damage from him while they try to shoot him. Survive and succeed and live on to fight multiple other brainiacs in other universes buuuuuutt the justice league cant? I would have much rather who they kill to be clones of all the members. Free the real ones then work together to defeat brainiac. That way at least we kinda can play with the league members and suicide squad.
IT IS VERY POSSIBLE that James Gunn was aware of how bad this game would be. After all, there's the old saying "it's going to get worse before it gets better." I'm sure Gunn is in that camp now. He knows DC must go through an extremely rough patch before it can be on the path to redemption... enter: SUPERMAN LEGACY.
They should’ve made evil Batman the villain! Batman is killed upon his death the knights vengeance protocol contingency is initiated. Somewhere underneath the Bat cave gas is released from a sarcophagus, inside is a meta-human enhanced clone of Bruce Wayne. A kill list is being downloaded along with other instructions inside a neuralink chip. One of the instructions is to deliver his predecessor to a Lazarus pit!
This to me sets a precedent for DC content moving forward under the James Gunn regime, to keep my expectations super low, or worse…..to expect more crap on the way. As if the previous DC movie flops were not indicative of that, this most certainly is for me. We were eating good once upon a time as DC fans, during the old days of the JL unlimited, Batman, Batman Beyond, and the Arkham games. Now with the sludge pile of movies from the Snyder verse, and the recent Gotham Knights, and this game, it’s hard to have hope for the future.
Without batman crime has no punchline
Game is n.8 on steam top seller list with 13k peak players. People rejected it
We all waited since 2015, almost 9 years later to be presented with a steaming pile of poo poo!
That Damien Waynes game would have been awesome and would have achieved far greater success then SSKTJL.