Improving the French Grand Prix (we probably don't need to)
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The Clarkson solution: Award 5 championship points to whoever commits dangerous driving
So haas will actually score points
Lmao
Yes please
mazepin for champion!
I agree
170 different layouts? 54 Laps of racing? Just randomize the layout for every single lap of the race
Imagine the drivers would need to know every configuration in the right lap and they would have to be careful not to hit each other 😂
Imagine if we have real life "dynamic layout" racing just like GRID 2's Liveroutes mode
Its rallying all over again
Change the layout twice a lap
reminds me of a game called split second.
The only thing that makes every track better is a close championship fight
Except Monaco, no saving that one
@@NyanKatGrrrl And Spain
So true
@@NyanKatGrrrl Monaco isn’t even bad the only problem is it’s harder to overtake but other than that it’s a good circuit
@@Nathan-F1 yea that's the exact problem with monaco it's just an oversized kart track imo
Paul Ricard, like Barcelona, is a complete circuit, this is why teams like to test their cars there, and the races on this kind of tracks will most of the time reflect the hierarchy of the teams. If mercedes completly dominates the championship the race would be boring, but when there is a fight for the chiamponship the race is exciting, like this year.
That’s why Spain and France where good races
Why what you just say seems absolutely logic, but no one mentionned it ?
Complete except for elevation change
Actually he's wrong there isn't 167 ways to configure Paul Richard there's over 300. What he most likely means is there are 167 "practical configurations."
In the first section there's 2 practical short cuts to the back straight. There's 3 ways to do the first 2 corners and 2 ways to get to the back straight 3 x 2 + 2 =8.
There's at least 7 ways to run the chicanes in the Mistral 7x8 = 56.
There's 2 ways at the end of Mistral 2x56=112.
There's 3 ways to run the final complex for 336 configurations.
My bet is that some of the ways to run the Mistral Chicane are simply impractical which reduces that number a lot.
Wrong comment section bro go to the f1 channels
"I just wasted everyones time."
That's what you do in every video Josh... Nothing new there, c'mon mate. ;-p
damn
And yet we still watch
@@Runner_in_the_dark It's the charisma and confidence he puts in his time wasting. We're sheep I tell you, SHEEP!
XD
Well,he is from NZ you know...
"The Valtteri Bottas of F1 circuits" - Probably the most accurate thing i've ever heard
Probably the most spot on description of both entities I've heard or seen, ever.
Revell was so certain that french gp gonna be shit so he planned to upload this a week after the race lol
3:24 I'm sticking to my guns here. So what if qualifying laps are under a minute. The Bahrain Outer layout proved it can work.
Great vid as always :)
Well done for featuring in his vid
Chief issues, that Josh missed on: Dijon has a) only one real braking zone, with a lot of flowing sweepers in between, and b) an *extremely* narrow track. It'd be crazy, but I don't think there would be much in the form of on-track overtaking either.
Agreed. Lap times at Austria are barely over a minute and its been one of the better tracks for overtaking in the modern era.
@@BlackPawn14 Well, modern cars are oil tankers with wheels. The track isn't too narrow.
As does the Redbull ring.
That Helmut Marko joke was fucking cruel, I loved it
Fun Fact: Every video Josh makes is amazing
That was not only fun, but factual. Well done!
True, my friend
His accent adds to it aswell
facts
For real
We might...if turn 4-7 don't give us that Prema accident type of action.
Improvisation:
T4-7 - Make it a harder braking zone
T8 - Harder chicane, similar to Monza T1
T10-12 - Harder braking zone, and wall of champion style final corner
OR for a better option Circuit 1A-V2 Bike configuration using the current track we have.
i.e. Removing T8, and Making T12 Less wide
3:32 Well, the A-1 Ring now has close to 1-minute lap times, sooooooooooo...
2020 Sakhir Grand Prix
@@RoadRager1904 exactly what I thought
Dijon would be a nice fit with that enormous straight
Well sakhir happened,then Igora Drive in 2023.I think F1 is will be more relaxed with sub 1 track nowadays
@@Holeecrab igora is sub 1 ?
here's my idea: every 2 laps, a 1998 Renault Megane is put on the track at top speed going the fastest route
Seriously, how does everyone forget how abysmal on-track action tended to be at Magny Cours? It was nothing but low and medium speed chicanes all around after the hairpin. (Also, please drop the obnoxious tweet whistle sound effect, it really grates.)
+1 to that last sentence.
Boomers. Both of you. Shut up.
It's the usual case of the good old days (which weren't very good) being better than what we have now.
So like Monza, Canada, and old Albert Park? Want to make a classic F1 track? Straight, chicane, straight, chicane, straight, chicane. Add one or two corners of mild importance and, boom, F1 will go there every year for centuries.
@@HeavyMetalMonkey Nothing like them, no. We're talking an average of a 150m run between chicaines which is nowhere near enough time to draw alongside. It's more like narrower Sochi with fake grass. Good track design is significantly more complicated than straight > chicane too. Also, Albert Park is mostly memorable for hosting season openers which obscures the fact that it's one of the hardest tracks to pass on in all of F1 according to the teams.
Do a video on HRT,Virgin and Caterham
agree
This would be great
HORRIBLE RACING TEAM
HORMONE REPLACEMENR TEAM
"Where are the Strolls going to land their jets?"
On what's normally the start-finish straight, of course.
Oof here 20 seconds after uploading 🔥 much love from England my dude love the content!
Is it gonna come home?
@@yakheen581 Yes
@@zach-ipsf1 you sure about that?
@@yakheen581 is it fuck 😂😂
@@yakheen581 We can beat Germany
The F3 races had soooooooo much overtakes, in places where it is IMPOSSIBLE to overtake in F1
The cars are just to big, and they cannot follow each other much
Yeah but also F3 cars are all equal which ofcourse you gonna see that much overtakes, the track might have no overtake in some places, but overall is an overtaking able track
@@ramfisr.4251 and one of the races was in the wet
@@ramfisr.4251 It's more that the aero is so simple creating so little dirty air
Next year we should see better racing then
@@ramfisr.4251 Nope
I’m so happy that they are GETTING RID of Sochi for 2023!
SOCHI GOT NUKED!
Yeah but the new track is still designed by Hermann Tilke so is it really gonna be that much better?
@@nthnhbsn1909 we'll see
@@nthnhbsn1909 i saw an onboard on instagram @formulaonearchive had some track day footage of it
@@nthnhbsn1909 Istanbul Park is Designed by Tilke and I hear nothing but good things about it.
Let’s do another race on Spa. They speek French there right?
My improvements:
T4: Make it a sharper corner and a heavier braking zone.
T8-9: Staightline the chicane.
T10: Widen the corner and bank the sh*t out of T10 and T11. This section must be flat out.
T12: Tighten it up, essentially making it a hairpin. The insane speed from T11 will create daring divebombs.
Last Corner: Make the hairpin run right up against the wall, like T13 Singapore.
Nailing it once again Josh! Can’t wait for the Sochi version ;)
*nukes*
@@jorgemora9354 all of them, all of the nukes
I really don't get this sudden desire to go back to Magny Cours. Track is narrower and with fewer places to overtake than PR. With so much downforce being trimmed off the cars next year, Paul Ricard should be pretty good again
1:14 ah yes the bernie ecclestone approach
Given the variety of layouts available, just have support series that run on different layouts during the same weekend to make the entire race weekend more interesting overall.
I never thought I liked Magny-Cours so much until Paul Ricard came
Paint blue lines on the track as well and see if the drivers manage to keep on track, as an added bonus it will be even more horrible to look at.
You should do a video on the W series 2021 lineup and your predictions
The best improvement that can be made to the French GP is to hold it at de La Sarthe. And even that might be fraught with issues...
Like the cars literally dying?
Yeah, I'd love to see it but it's simply too long of a track to be feasible. The race would be only 23 - 24 laps long meaning a 2 lap safety car deployment would eat up almost 10% of the running distance. Also, if an accident happened in the first four corners we might be left waiting for four to five minutes at VSC speeds just for the leaders to come back around and meet the SC. As it is IIRC the 24 Hours has to use multiple safety cars for different parts of the track. Add to that the issues of getting an adequate number of marshals, the right medical vehicle response times and so forth that F1 requires would be hugely complicated. The icing on the cake is that TV coverage would be messy at bare minimum because it's extremely hard to have and to direct enough cameras to span the track and there's definitely threat of the perpetual issue of Monaco, Le Mans coverage and as used to happen with French GP coverage at Magny Cours where there's an independent French team directing it all that, A - Isn't particularly good, and B - Spends a suspiciously long time focusing only on the French entries even if they're not doing much or particularly competitive.
All the engines would die after just 1 lap LOL!
@@ELSTERLING Le Mans takes care of that by having multiple safety cars and slow zones. The latter is something that F1 should investitgate. As far as a 2lap SC deplyoment, you wouldn't really need that, as at SC pace a Le Mans lap is longer than 5 minutes.
As for the TV coverage, it isn't that bad, well if you go to the commentary free livestream and turn Radio Le Mans on....on that note, have Hindy and crew cover the race.
As for how it would work, well....Pcars had their Formula A (2011/2012 F1 Car lookalike) race there in Career mode. It had some crazy combos like Formula A at Bathurst, as well as LMP1 there, oh and LMP1 at Monaco/Azure Circuit! :D :D
I knew why I was driving the ALMS equivalent (Watkins Glen, Sonoma, Laguna Seca and Road America, although supposedly Brno is in it as well) ;) LMP1 in Monaco is just horrifying. ;) :D
The French GP may be some of the year best though I still find merit in looking what made this year so good while other mehmeh. The next year might be a real stinker so improvements is always warranted.
Put the red sandpaper through turn 1 to make it into a nine-stopper. Blue sky thinking baby!
I love these videos!
Even before this GP I loved Paul Ricard. Such a cool track to drive, and this GP has now proven that boredom wasn't caused by the track, but by the cars.
Dromo did overhaul/reprofile the camber in all corners except turn 10
My take is that there are no boring tracks. As Sochi and France 's gps proved, it's the cars that were the problem.
On F1 2020, its one of my fav tracks to drive.
I’d love to see a Hermann Tilke circuits review video.
This track can fill the entire season by itself
I think it was the tailwind that made the race fun
I think we should upgrade the Paul Ricard circuit the way Ripley advised in Aliens:
"I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit.... it's the only way."
The FunniTM solution: Let drivers pick whichever layout they want, but they can’t use the same one twice in a row.
Similar to other ideas, but more proper: Joker lap required on ONE different layout, which changes each race. Possibly we run a layout without turns 4-7 normally, and the current layout becomes the joker layout
Ive done allot of photo shoots for Porsche and Lambo at Kaylami( the same guy who imports those cars owns Kaylami) and I can honestly say it is WORLD class...feels like you standing on a European circuit, and its a proper drivers track, one corner into the next.
Best solution to make races more interesting
Give Clarkson a seat at ferrari the ultimate duo
Quite liked the Double Yellow line idea.
My changes:
-Push turn 3 back and sharpen it up to make it more of a heavy braking zone to create some overtaking nice right left section, and a long right hander which the point is to carry more speed to make turn 8 a better overtaking zone than it is
-Sharpen turn 11 to make a solid braking zone
-For the final corners after 12,13, perhaps 14 a wall of champions style corners
Just run the French GP at Ile Notre Dame the weekend after the Canadian GP. The locals will love it
The only change I would make to Paul Ricard is :
- Switch the corners 3-4-5 to the same layout as Silverstone's 1-2-3.
Quick right, long left, and tight right... plenty of overtaking there (at least in Silverstone).
There is even enough space on Paul Ricard to build it while keeping this and the current layout.
4:06 thats me 🤩🤩🤩
Last week's race in PR was great because of RB and Merc are close to each other. And that rain that happened before the race, throwing out all the plans that the teams had made. If Merc were dominating the season, it would have been a boring race.
Every track would feel like shit if there was no actual racing. It's really the cars not the tracks.
My idea would be to tighten turn 3 so it's more of a proper chicane, but more importantly, turn the final corner into a medium speed right-hander to improve following onto the start/finish straight. That really should be all that's needed.
In my opinión Let's wait to 2022. With the revolution it's possible to see exciting races regularly here, as we saw last week where there was battles due to the teams being very close with each other
Last weekend's race was good because the leading cars and the midfield are close together. The reason the 2019 GP was so boring was because the Mercedes cars were so much better that year.
However, I think the Bugatti circuit at Le Mans would be a far better venue. It would need some upgrades to meet FIA Grade 1 criteria and perhaps some track modifications to make it longer, but it's a historic venue with strong motorsport heritage. Imagine an F1 season with Monza, Spa, Silverstone and Le Mans!
Any upgrades to the Bugatti circuit, however, should not include the removal of the iconic Dunlop Arch. Donington Park has already lost its arch and is lesser for it.
That layout by Lemi Manden looks pretty damn solid. Give that man a cookie!
Use the fast chicane at T1 and T2 plus a removal of the chicane om the mistralstraight. Then add grass and gravel and we got a slipstream paradise!
You hit on a good point at the end mate. Definitely the closer comp is having a good effect on the excitement of the circuit. And for that matter the championship. Okay 2022 regs look to clean up the air for closer following so hopefully DRS can be curtailed and we get to see some slip stream skills. If you add the closer competition with close follow slip streaming into the braking zones divided by the private Stroll family jets you get boom 🤯 better more exciting GP action across the board! …. Well accept for Monaco 🇲🇨😎
I hope enough people get the Helmut Marko joke to give it the love it deserves.
HOW DO I WATCH THIS AT 3AM SITTING ON MY COUCH WHEN THE TWEET SOUNDS ARE LOUD AF AND CAN WAKE MY PARENTS UP TO GIVE ME A BEATING?!
I thought I read that as of 2021, Magny Cours no longer holds an FIA Grade 1 license
I think to make the track more interesting is to give drivers more opportunity to overtake, I’m focusing on the sector 2 chicane after the DRS zone. Use the right hand turn, have the track cross over into the current chicane, and then back on to the straight.
Apart from the joy for spectators that the Circuit Paul Ricard may or may not offer in Formula 1, I must say that I love driving this circuit in ACC and even on the F1 games. It is extremely challenging and I very much enjoy the flow of this racetrack.
If they held the race in November, that will be exciting.
I think that the new Regulations will help some of the bad circuits because the cars will be able to raise closer.
I think it's similar to Belgium last year, boring when there is no competition however when the top 2 teams are this close and the tires allow for alternate strategies it can produce good racing
Make video about Felipe Massa or Helio Castroneves. P.S. great job you really improved since last year!
Mid-race sprinklers would be awesome!
1.Use the lower chicane instead of the current Turn 1-2 2.Get rid of Turn 3-4-5 and make it a big radius 90 degree corner. 3.Get rid of that chicane on the back straight. 4.Make Turn 12-13-14 a 180 degree turn with huuuuuiige radius so that you can have a harder braking zone into Turn 15.
0:02 missed opportunity to put Banana Leclerc
That's the first time I saw an F1 youtuber who said the cookie cutter instead of a Nascar youtuber.
5:12 5:18 me from 5 day ago: Try hold the French GP at Lemans Circuit.
Me now: Called it.
I think with the new rules in 2022 there could be a chance for good races on a regular basis
its the same answer for the Spanish GP, Mecedes have finally a good fight with Redbull, so the race is more interesting
the difference with the Spanish GP, is the fact that we raced at Paul-Ricard 3 times now and the 2 others, Mercedes was dominating the championships, we neever had the point of view with a true competition
The Spanish GP was still awful, aside from Merc pulling the 2 stop literally nothing of any note or interest happened
@@robertharrington703 The French GP was still awful, aside from Red Bull pulling the 2 stop literally nothing of any note or interest happened
Or maybe they were both good and the main difference was who won
@@Karlsson14 the French Grand Prix had midfield battles and a genuine battle for the last spot on the podium. The Spanish Grand Prix had none of that.
@@robertharrington703 that the difference, no matter the fight, the Spanish GP is still boring, but the French GP, we never had a fight for the championship until this year
5:34 is a brilliant joke
Why is there so much revisionist love for Magny-Cours? Even with normal sized (not modern chonk monsters) F1 cars the races tended to be dull
Valteri Bottas of circuits 😂
I think the French GP at the Le Mans Bugatti Circuit would be a banger, it might be good to look into it
3:28 this video introduced me to dijon prenois,pls help me im a stan of that track
im not even french,im indonesian. theres literally a new track made.and yet im stanning the mustard track because it goes up and down. also the dirt path near mandalika made a better racetrack with a lil bit of love dont @ me
Suggestion: Send the tweet for ideas AFTER the race
make that the runoff areas eat the tires up so its high risk to get of track
I think that Paul Ricard could be a great curcuit. The main problem is that cars have a hard time following each other due to dirty air (especially in sector 3). The new regulations will make this less of an issue and provide more overtaking opportunities, at places like turn 1, the mistral chicane and turn 11. I wouldn't be surprised if next years race gives us as good, if not better entertainement than this years race.
World Rally Cross idea for Paul Ricard... Add a few required joker laps in.
I think France is still a bad track, but with the new regulations, I’m looking forward to the French gp coming up this weekend. If the race is still bad, here’s what you can do.
Make turns 1 and 2 flat and then turn 3 or L’Hotel starts a lot earlier and it’s a lot sharper.
Turn 8 is a lot sharper as well to make it a better overtaking opportunity.
Sharpen off turn 11 to create an overtaking opportunity.
There is a different layout before turn 12, so let’s use that.
Instead of going to turn 13, go straight and make a very fast chicane to make it challenging for the drivers. This will surely improve qualifying and practice.
Every change to the circuit are about sharpening corners and making them faster.
Flatout back straight Baku style would be sick
I think we could use the many different layouts and have drivers do a joker lap
This track is such an eyesore
2022 is make or break for if it deserves to be in the calender or not
The race might be even better next year, what with the 2022 rules aiming to make following other cars much easier.
The buggatti circuit at Le Mans
If i knew about this i would've sent the perfect circuit for french gp... being interrupted by stroll
I know you're going crazy about Sochi getting the Tsar Bomba
Don't worry I can wait for that video
Funny enough the French go last weekend was the first f1 I have ever watched live and my mate said it was gonna be boring and I almost decided to not watch but ended up watching and It was good
When sprinklers come out the drivers will just drive over them😂😂
That’s actually genius. Just wait until everyone else has boxed for inters
Closer competition brings the best out of every circuit. It's why Nascar is entertaining. The cars are so close that even going in ovals, they're fun to watch.
Barriers or gravel traps would be a plus.
drivers build their own paul ricard layout for next year GP
le mans.
(and yes i mean the bugatti circuit)
No time wasted here, always love the vids. Only one small suggestion, and maybe this is down to my speakers' response, but: the tweet sound effect is *really loud. Distractingly so I feel. But small complaint, seriously love the work mate.
The thing is, F2 & F3 both can have a GREAT race in this track as we can see previously, with the main problem mainly resides on current F1 cars that is too quick for the circuit before 2021 regs.
The recent 2021 regulation change does seem to close the gap between the cars a little bit better now allowing it to be a good recipe for racing, but hey that's just my opinion.
normally for a track to be good from what i've noticed is to have 0 chicanes and S sections. just let the tracks be natural.
Make it a street circuit with no runoff. chaos
now we need a version of "how to improve Sochi Autodrome (we probably don't need to)"