New Rule: Side with Teachers | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
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Bill calls on parents to show their newfound respect for teachers by taking their side in classroom disagreements.
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“What a kid I got, I told him about the birds and the bees and he told me about the butcher and my wife.”
― Rodney Dangerfield
My God Rodney , where are you now when we need you .
@@robertyoungman8961 dead
@@EphemeralWretch his wife was banging the butcher
Trump's favorite Rodney Dangerfield Joke - "I saved a girl from being attacked last night. I controlled myself."
Hillarious. bill marher fans though, you just offended vegans, vegetarians, those with alternative marriages, and conservationist for avians and insects.
Here's to my teachers; William Baum, Freda Eisenkraft, and John Manfre, to name a few; after 50 years I still remember them and appreciate their skills and humanity. Thank you.
Wanna guess how much teaching has changed in 50 years? The stepmother of an acquaintance of mine has just a public high school diploma yet is mistaken for having a graduate degree. She’s 74. No one makes such a mistake about anyone under 45 or 50
@@meganbaker9116 Spot on. I taught in a health profession for 16 years. There was unspoken pressure to pass the students through which got worse as the years went on. I'm assuming it's the same with other health professions such that I wouldn't go to a health professional who's under 40 years old. Plus, increasingly I had to dumb down my English vocabulary, and these are doctoral level students.
@@shevetlevi2821 Sad but unsurprising.
Thank you for this Bill! You are 100% SPOT ON!!! Yes, I am a teacher. Proud to be one for the past 25 years. Most parents are trying to do their best, but there are some that are doing a huge disservice to their children and society at large by enabling their kids’ learned helplessness and fragility. Natural consequences teach kids how to be resilient and grow from these experiences. Thank you for every single word in this segment! I hope it resonates with those who need to hear this!
How is a school system that controls literally every minute of a kid’s school day not creating learned helplessness? I’m not saying parents aren’t doing it too, just that 13 years of obedience training don’t exactly encourage resilience and being a self-starter.
I'm hoping parents having to live with their kids more leads to having to deal with you know, parenting, and reinstating some boundaries, instead of being able to shove their badly-behaved kid off on teachers or society.
Then they complain that their Kids are having frustrations with Computer Learning, Instead of HELPING THEM! Teaching, Has Got To Be, One Of The Most Difficult Jobs! At This Time, Kids And Teachers Need Help! Some Positive Influence, About What We Have To Do, To Get Ahead Of This Crisis! Now, Add Fire! WOW!
The daycare generation came of age and is now “parenting” but the thought of actually having to raise their own kids is terrifying to them.
The rapid decline in society wasn’t when parents began siding with kids, it’s when parents stopped parenting their own kids and become bulldozer karens when others don’t do it how they want.
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Unfortunately, many parents are placating their kids with highly addictive digital devices to escape the rigors of parenting during Covid.
Even more unfortunate, remote learning can be a gateway to device addiction, even for parents and teachers who have been trying to hold the line on moderate use.
As a teacher, I think there is nothing more destructive to a young child's development than handing them their own phone or iPad and letting them free-range on the internet to pass the time. What's strange is many of the helicopter parents who make my life hell are doing just this. Taking their child's phone away during class because they literally can't put them down is seen as an act of violence to them.
The Netflix film, The Social Dilemma, presents this reality from the perspective of those that helped pioneer and engineer these addictive, predatory products. It was refreshing to see the subject of digital addiction and attention predation of young people discussed thoughtfully, without representing those of us who are concerned as being hysterical Luddites.
"If children don't learn that life is full of disappointments, how will people be ready for marriage, or Democratic primaries?"
God I love Bill Maher.
Or Donald Trump..
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@@JRHouben Not One person dies at trump rally; Blm rally has at least 20. Prove me wrong. *Charleston isnt one
* Oooooh i must be racist; an idiot. But you wont find me outside totting a pull on a block n killing others of my kind, the B l a c k on B crime drove the Klan outta buisness
@@anaklusmosgreek3198 "I'm going to make a ridiculous claim and provide no proof, prove me wrong. Also, the example of me being wrong doesn't count."
Were you born with brain damage, or did your mom throw you down the stairs when you were a baby?
@@anaklusmosgreek3198 Way more people at BLM , the protests are more often just for starters not to forget most of the injuries are from the police .
Bill, My wife and I are 40 yr, now retired teachers, and you spoke so much truth!! We wish these attitudes had been expressed 40 yrs ago! I always expressed that parents have trouble having a birthday party for 6 friends, not 30 at a time and we didn’t have party favors after class! Thank you so much!!!
I am a Teacher, and I approve of Bill's message.
@Agent J True
I'm so glad some of these parents are stuck at home with the little hellions they have created.
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Am I the only parent who didn’t mind being quarantined with my kids?
The parents are probably out screaming loudly at a mask less rally somewhere.
Agreed
@@wonderfulwenna2710 Ohh yeah, as if the mask wearing ones don't procreate and fell out of the sky
All of this is SOOOO true! I was a social worker in several schools during my career. You're not allowed to discipline them, period! Administration will not back you up, period. We are creating a society of criminals because nobody wants to sand up to the parents who blame them. Thanks Bill for bringing this up.
Sign on front door: Home schooling in progress. Do not knock unless you have alcohol or teach math.
LOL Priceless!
@Thomas Ollister I suppose private schools are the magical solution for that? Yeah, sure...
@Thomas Ollister Not necessarily a group of high IQ individuals. Our superintendent went out to a church revival, got it, and gave it to his entire family. But humans are stupid. My best friend's wife teaches 4th grade. They have 4 boys, age 8 to 14. He works in a meat processing plant. America at its finest.
I have to admit that I initially read that as Meth. Breaking Bad style chemistry lessons.
@Andrew Caller Actually home schooling is often done for religious reasons and research shows that there's a high correlation between religious areas and the kind of poor outcomes parents tend to care about like abortions. It really helps your life outcomes if you don't get taught creationism.
My Dad taught middle school for 30 years in a major East coast city. Severely underpaid, but worked 10+ hour days. Stayed at school until after 5pm. Came home and did his lesson plan and graded papers at night.
Thank your dad and family for supporting his work.
It must have been nice to have health insurance growing up
This is how teachers work. Few things I despise more than people who claim
“They only work from 8-2:30(my school hours as a kid), get weekends off, 2 months in summer then Xmas”
1, they have to be there before bell rings in am and after in pm
2.they work in the evening when they get home preparing and don’t get paid for it
3. They work on weekends (no pay)
4. They work past when school ends and before school starts in summer
5. They sometimes work in summer too (no pay)
6. They only get paid 10 months of the year and if not tenured they aren’t guaranteed contract for following year
7. Often part of Xmas they work but even if not, they don’t deserve 2 friggin weeks??
8. All this and get paid like dirt. Have to work in 💩 conditions a lot, and no respect
@@teresahowick5197 Agree! People who keep saying teachers got a lot of free time are totally clueless.
HKim0072 my wife is also a teacher whos been teaching for 39 years . Never has she been able leave when her shift is done. Just like your dad she works 10 to 12 hours per day and sometimes longer than that to get everything they have to do done. Most people have no idea how much work they have to do while being paid so little.
The only time my parents argued with a teacher is when they thought they weren't being hard enough on me. I learned the valuable lesson of never lying or exaggerating about a teacher, as I would lose all credibility when I needed to report a REAL instance of a teacher being inappropriate towards me.
As a cop, I definitely see this lacking in today's under 30s, as they have spent their entire youths being believed and catered to and now genuinely feel that ANYTHING they don't like should be taken seriously and dealt with by the Police.
When everybody gets a trophy, the only people that win are the people that make trophies.” Lol
Well he is right
When I had a bad grade my parents never went to the teacher. Instead my parents just took away my video games, like it should be.
Not sure how old you are, but you were lucky to have brave parents who taught you responsibility. A lesson you have learned well. And as a parent I can appreciate that that is not always an easy thing to teach this lesson.
steven cooke I’m a 90s kid and I already saw kids around me starting to have parents get mad when teachers didn’t give their kid a good grade. Also most of the kids were spoiled rotten.
After I left I heard how bad it had gotten at the school. I had a teacher who made us take detailed notes in class and said “the quizzes and tests will always be on material I tell you to write down.” It was an easy A: you knew what could be on the test so you studied it. Now the teacher starts handing out study guides. The notebooks we wrote were the study guides, I didn’t need anything else to get an A in the class. If your kid is failing in that class it’s probably not the teacher.
I remember that Very well. I am glad that I never became a teacher. The weak minded parents, the spineless administrators and the spoiled kids with a titanic sense of entitlement.
A friend of mine teaches 3rd grade. She deserves combat pay. 26 kids, in a classroom designed for 13. And only one wears a mask. Combat pay.
My roommate is a special ed teacher who worked primarily in the ghetto. Her biggest complaint was that it seemed to her like parents were treating school as a free babysitter/finishing school for their kids. The second was that administrators in school districts were more concerned with ensuring the students pass standardized tests and being politically correct than ensuring that the students actually, y'know, learn something.
I took English classes when I first arrived to the US. The teachers LOVED us. Because we wanted to learn, listened and did not give them any trouble. And I am talking 30 years ago.
*came to the US
@@thesincitymama I refuse to have a discussion on a language you have to babble. It is a bastard of bad German and worse French and that it has become the common tongue of the world tells me very bad things about the world.
xhagast damn! But you are kind of right. What is your native language?
I'm sure that this will piss some people off, but immigrant kids are SO much better behaved than most kids.
@@rachelscomment7672 Spanish. You can accentuate Spanish and change the meaning of words but the language is usually pretty clear. A bit of an accent in English and nobody can understand a word you say.
Most teachers would probably trade some of that newfound respect for a living wage.
They should negotiate that through their teacher's union. Remember, it's illegal to give a good teacher a raise while not giving it to a bad teacher.
@@vincentvalashu a better wage can help out with "bad teachers" as well if you think about the effects for a bit. Most of those are simply stressed and not having to worry about the money helps out a lot with that. Problem is the lack of power in unions and union leaders in lobbyists pockets, also a money problem.
@@raistormrs A better wage will not change things other than increase taxes. The Quality of teachers will not change much. Why? Teachers know before they start what the wage is. Why? It's in the union contract. Are you telling me the people who go to college to be proficient at teaching, are too stupid to know how to manage their finances?
The problem is that there are Unions in the first place. If a teacher is good, and by "good" I mean getting students to a point to pass predefined mile markers of education with few or no exceptions, is compared to a bad teacher, one that fails to actually educate, the bad one should be demoted or fired, and the good one should be promoted. Just like in the Private Sector.
@@vincentvalashu Oh please go away with your Neoliberal Propaganda. Your beloved God "free market" isnt going to fix it... People like you want to take Education away as a right and make it a Privilege, do you really wanna divide your country that badly ? Schools are so out of date in their systems made for a different Aera, Teachers know that and the Good ones are those who try to help their students despide the terrible systems, Bad ones have given up but they can be lifted again through better conditions for themself. And no there are many Teachers who haven't given Money much though when choosing that path, do you even know Teachers?
@@raistormrs I do love the pseudo intellectuals who say the education system is outdated but provide no realistic alternative. Free market does a much better job while your public funded system further contributes to inequality.
"When everybody gets a trophy the only people who win are the ones who make trophies! great quote!
Sounds like something Trump would say. In fact I'm starting to think Bill may have turned republican after watching this monologue😂
I loved the part about the millenials all becoming "angry screaming grievance collectors". Go get'em Bill- that's a large part of your audience!! 😂
Except the school system fails children by only instilling their idea of success and aspirations. I remember teachers telling me that construction workers are morons and comparing them to "pond life". I'd like to see Mr Teacher build his own house. They don't allow creativity either. Teachers laugh at you when you state you want to be an artist, musician or writer. They tell you to get into the real world because apparently those people don't really exist?
@@Fireglo Spot on. I've discovered that a great many "teachers" are people who simply never wanted to grow up and join the real world. They're actually terrified at the thought of not having the safety of a school room, hearing class bells, sounds of recess, birthday parties, etc. It's literally their security blanket. And because of their disassociation with the real world, many become bitter towards it and anyone living in it, aka construction workers, landscapers, mechanics, etc. You're right too many will sadly call their students "dreamers" for wanting to explore their creativity, but what they're really doing is attempting to squash the student's aspirations to be a part of the real world- which those "teachers" both fear and hate. After all to be a builder, landscaper, automaker, film maker etc. people would benefit to have such creativity skills honed.
Yes, very unapologetically anti-socialist of him... He's so brave...
@guy man Why through simple observation my man. Have you tried it?
Absolutely it’s about time! Take it from the parent of a junior school teacher who is trying to do the best she can whilst remotely teaching her class who need to be ready for secondary school. She is so stressed and worried for them and their ability to adapt next year and feels entirely responsible for their success. Difficult times all around for everybody.
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Tell your baby that we appreciate her efforts.
Bah! Teachers in Canada were striking before the pandemic, complaining about online classes. Now they are complaining about having to teach in person while so many other front lines workers haven’t had the luxury of having the summer off. It’s as though the virus trolled these entitled union-backed teachers so hard. Fire them all and restart!
@Joe Freeman 6
As a former teacher, I learned in grad school the average teacher lasts 5 years. No one in my cohort made it!
I've seen teachers that graduated from the most expensive universities quit their jobs after 6 months of teaching. We need to be honest and let people know what to expect as a teacher; 25% teaching on a good day, and 75% dealing with behavioral issues from the students and their parents.
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David Andrews HAH! I teach private lessons, and this is still true. Just hit 5yrs this year, and boy am I looking for a way out.
I'm still in education, sort of, but out of classroom. lasted 20 yrs. still love it and miss it bit mentally out ❤
I knew by Thanksgiving of my first full year of teaching that I’d leave the profession at the end of that year. It was the most difficult, anxiety-ridden and soul-crushing 10 months of my life. Having said that, I am truly grateful for that time - I learned so much about my own limitations and the courage it takes to get up in the morning knowing you are going to face 5 or 6 audiences of adolescents who don’t want to be there and don’t care why you decided to try to make a difference in their lives. Teachers earned my undying respect and admiration for all they do. They’re my heroes.
It also called: "I didn't raise my kid(s) to be responsible and self-sufficient, so now I do everything for them bc I have zero faith in their own ability". That's even more sad.
I think I liked it better without the clapping seals in the audience.
Like on the episode with Dan Crenshaw where he, without an audience to interrupt him, destroyed Bill with facts.
I'm surprised they're not barking and begging for fish.
Audience is for sure clapping a bit much too soon, out of the house energy I suppose
Why are you here? Just go back to fox. _problem solved_
Yes! The claps/laughs seem excessive
After teaching in colleges, high schools, junior highs, alternative schools, and for labor unions for 40 years I can tell you parents are not your friends and I very much doubt that this will change the public's respect for teachers.
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Your comments are true. I hope that this changes people. Parents sure are not easy, I am happy that I did not teach. People sure have a hard time hearing the word, No.
I hope that the parents learn something while THEIR kids are at home.
@Keith Willis Amen.....if even that long.
Tom Nekuda Agreed.
it was sooo nice when night shows didn't have stupid applause every 30 secs
I agree. I loved the no audience shows. I could actually hear what was being said and I had the opp to respond in my own way.
Right on! As a former teacher I agree with this new rule segment. That’s been the problem with public education.
Maybe you in the US need to pay your teachers what they're really worth?
@Michael Anderson It's hard to attract qualified people when you don't want to pay them.
@Michael Anderson what are your qualifications to judge how much teachers are worth?
And if it can't be money, they should be paid in respect. The problem is Americans don't respect people with low paying jobs. Quite the paradox.
@HeyMildred Sure, but trust me that money goes into much deeper pockets before they even discuss what's left to pay teachers.
@HeyMildred REspectfully disagree. I'm a special ed teacher and I don't do it for the money, I do it because teaching young children is my passion. It's what is profess to do; my profession.
This is 100% accurate.
Example: Throughout 11 years as a high school English teacher, I never encountered 1 parent who believed/supported the teacher when his/her child was found to have committed plagiarism.
Why would they? They have a personal investment in their own child. The teacher is just a hired gun
My parents would've helped you decide the best way to embarrass me. We need more of those!
@@simeonteitelbaum3673 please never reproduce! We have enough ignorant fools running around.
S G did the parents even know what plagiarism was?
My son committed plagiarism in seventh grade. So I went to every class with him for two days, took his phone and reviewed all homework. It’s called consequences.
“I mark the onset of American decline as the moment parents started siding with their children over the TEACHERS”.
I mark the onset of american decline as the moment we as a society decided the people whose job it is to equip out children with the knowledge to succeed didn't deserve to be paid equitably.
@@williamtarleton1857 : I'm with you on this. Besides, there are three sides to every story. If a parent really knows their kid, they should be able to suss out the BS parts.
@@AvengingAngel777 exactly, my parents were never helicopter or bulldozer parents, but they wouldn't take everything a teacher said at their word either. I was rarely at odds with my teachers but I've definitely seen some stuff. My fifth grade teacher absolutely tormented is one poor kid in my class because he was a little rowdy, the punishment definitely did not fit the crime. Imagine if Bill Maher was this kid's dad, he'd be going to school everyday getting tortured by this teacher with absolutely nobody on his side.
@@jessy2465 from kinder thru high school. only 1 good teacher.
Apparently you haven't met some of the terrible teachers out there.
"If children don't learn that life can be full of disappointments, then they won't be ready for marriage or... Democratic primaries."
From personal experience, it's still risky to 100% "side with the teacher" though. It all depends on the person, as well as the parents. Regardless, teachers still deserve mad respect during these uncertain times.
I probably have similar personal experience. My parents made it clear to me before secondary school (equivalent of middle school and high school combined) that they would side with the teachers.
They didn't know that the teachers would hand out detentions like sweets for every little thing.
However my parents got the impression that you must've done something truly awful in order to be given a detention. It was only put to the test once, because of a homework that was handed in one day late (I'd missed homeworks before, but those teachers were kind). What followed was three days of silent treatment, interrogation, guilt trips and shame. I'll remember the feeling in the pit of my stomach for years to come. I was later diagnosed with something meaning that internally, I handled such situations poorly, I certainly don't think my parents wanted me to feel the way I did.
If and when I have children, I'll bear all of that in mind, just in case they get "that" teacher. 90% of them are brilliant, and deserve more respect as you say, but there's always those few - and you remember the bad ones much more.
Radical teachers don't deserve anyone's respect. They are a danger to children.
Parents go on interviews with their kids?! WHAT?!
Steven Makell You’re my hero! Thank you!
Angie Gee that sounds crazy. And I figured only Trumps took their parents on interviews...
yup. i would not hire any kid whose parents did that
I'm 25 years old and would want to melt into the ground if my mother did that! Who would hire someone that cannot even get through an interview without their parent?
@@rainbowgirl678 its that insane?! no way would i hire that kid
You know what teachers would like even more then appreciation? More money.
Quick story: I work hard 3 1/2 years in to my Elementary Education degree, looking forward to Student Teaching. First Middle School I am assigned to the Master Teacher is an old school tyrant teacher, no smiling till after Winter Break. I was taught (in 1989) a softer approach, and transferred to a Magnet School. Parents felt so entitled there. Kids were deviously lying about the teachers, particularly the Student Teacher, me. Towards the end of the semester, and my degree preparation, I was considering never teaching in schools after I received my degree. The stress. 1/3 of a good day spent in discipline. 6th graders having sex and coming to class stoned from pot they talked about stealing from their parents, or passed out parents' guests. In Parent-teacher conferences just before my graduation, I had a parent believe blatent lies about my behavior towards his non-white child. Accused me of assaulting her, yelling and spitting in her ear, when all I did was tell his continually disruptive daughter to behave during an event. All 4 of us teachers took turns keeping within a few feet of her to monitor her near constant troublemaking. He made my decision for me, and I never taught in a school again. Schools aren't the problem.
Steve Deasy, I appreciate your honesty and I agree there are many broken homes and broken kids who are forced to attend schools and create chaos, but schools ARE also THE PROBLEM.
Schools create by their very nature, a toxic bullying environment for ALL participants.
Factory schools HAVE ALWAYS been about compliance, not about teaching in the truest sense:
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The cruel torturous inhuman mess that is the current mainstream teaching industry is why most parents today hold the majority of teachers in utter contempt and rightly so.
As you show with your own example, most teachers go back into schools and either become part of an inhuman coercive system or leave. It’s seems there are very few who decide to show the entrepreneurialism to create innovation in the education industry, by actually working directly with parents, raising their own funds, standing up in the political square against administrators and unions and establishing their own direct parent assisted community home schools. There is so much world class online teaching content now that this is he obvious thing to do if you’re a motivated young teaching graduate, instead of expecting the current shit schooling system based on coercion and compliance instead of exchange of knowledge, to be the answer.
I mean didn’t you see how broken the current education system was when YOU were a high school student? Why on earth would you think it would have ever been the answer to anything other than a Faustian Deal paycheck? Don’t you think most kids and parents can see this too? If you’re a part of a broken system and you don’t fix it, your part of the problem and bear part of the responsibility for the problem whether you like it or not!
@@jginfographics Weird. I didn't experience the hellscape you describe in all my years as a kid in school. School is just a reflection of society. People bully or are bullied, but the same thing happens at the workplace. You can't escape from life and human interactions.
Greg K What defeatist nonsense.
At one time, there were no road rules and people drove where they liked, with significantly more accidents for kms travelled than there is in today’s numbers.
Once upon a time, doctors and nurses didn’t wash their hands and it took a generation to convince them to do so despite the clinical evidence being in existence for several decades.
Once there was only monarchies and kingdoms and then the founding fathers of America decided to assert their independence against the strongest military force the world had ever known to that time.
One there were telegraphs, then landline phones, then Steve Jobs invented the smart phone.
Schools are like industrial scale Lord Of The Flies experiments writ large. It’s shameful. Little wonder they are failing.
But because it’s a compliance system rather than a knowledge system, teachers are taught to be masters of compliance, hence they defend the status quo, fail to innovate and blame their customers - the parents and students - for their failure.
Steve Jobs didn’t blame phone customers for not inventing the smartphone. He invented it himself. But most people bought one!
Stop making excuses and accepting poor performance as a fact of life. Evolve. Be part of the solution instead of a handbrake which is a lot of the current problem.
No offense but perhaps it was for the best, teachers deal with far more today than what you just described. Teachers in the 80’s/90’s didn’t have to deal with school shooters on an annual basis or even students with greater tech skills than the educators. Today’s youth know more about the world than any generation before them, given their access to the internet from infancy. Most teachers trained in the 20th century just aren’t equipped to deal with the realities of 21st century America and students are very aware of that. This is why teachers who have a passion for education tend to perform better and earn greater respect from pupils than those who go into the profession with rose colored glasses but turn sour once they‘re reminded this is a public service job.
Sounds like another great student teaching experience! I was also pretty disillusioned after mine but I used that as a catalyst to be a better teacher and never have that environment in my classroom. It's tough though and you need support from a good cast of administrators and colleagues. I'm sorry that your experience soured you and I hope you're happy in whatever field you're in now.
Bill, how about we pay them what they're worth. That would be a good start
Can you give a number?
As a teacher myself - thank you. Although teaching can have its rewards, it is an arduous and stressful job - underpaid and largely thankless. I am so tired of hearing "What are they teaching in schools these days?!" every time some adult doesn't know a basic fact. We have the children in class 25 hours per week - parents have them the other 143. Teachers do their best but children benefit the most when parents and teachers work as a team.
As an almost 70-year-old father of 5, I was often criticized for being too tough on my children, my wife had rules, I had rules and we didn't allow our children to dictate to us about anything. We had a dictatorship in our home, did we terrorize our children? sometimes yes when we found that they were lying about certain rules, did we praise them? Yes we did when they did well we often told them how proud we were of them, but make no mistake we tolerated no krap concerning homework, deportment, respect of teachers, etc. You can raise respectful kids but as a parent, you have to establish who's in charge.
That's exactly what is missing. No rules or boundaries. Endless time on the phones. Lack of supervision.
Well said!!
Were you prosecuted for attempted murder or assault causing bodily harm?
I'm 43 and that's how my siblings and I were raised. It is what's missing today.
My parents were just like you, I'm like that also, but my siblings let their kids run amok and are so undisciplined. So I'm hoping they feel the pain from home schooling.
There are children who spend more time with their camp counsellor at summer camp in one week than their parents spent with them all year. It's good for parents to actually be spending time with their children. Needs to happen more often.
As someone who has been in education in some capacity for 30 years, I’d say he is spot on. Then again his sister is a teacher and he has always been a big supporter of teachers and public education.
It was years of suppressed rage and sadness. Ofc I immensely respect you and Jordan as teachers and I’ll listen to you guys with philosophical humility
How bad can a society of spoiled little brats who think they're entitled to everything, all the time, and shouldn't have to lift a finger to get it, really be?
* looks at the White House *
I retract my question.
ain't seen nothing yet...
Precisely! Well said.
Can we really stop with the overly long applause breaks after every single line?
GDI :- They are still trying to figure out the new "isolated" audience rules...the dynamics are "off" because of the seat separation.
Don't panic, they will get it sorted out...just another way covid-19 is effecting our daily lives.
@Mike Wazowski At risk of what? The audience is choosing to be there.
@Mike Wazowski I'm betting those aren't "audience members." They are likely the staff at the studio. Cameramen, writers, producers. They were going to be there anyway. Got like...7 of them to "laugh" and "cheer." Kinda sad, but it ain't criminal.
@Mike Wazowski What does that have to do with anything? /wooosh
@Mike Wazowski It sounds like the "audience" is just the crew of the show. You know, the people who have to be there to keep the show going.
Then maybe we should give them a raise they sure as hell need it
I teach English at a private elementary school in Korea.. and you wouldn't believe what the report card writing process is like. We can't call them out on their behavior at all. We get blamed for everything that parents call in about. "can't use the word silly, shy, timid, quiet, talkative"... It's all praise and even some grade doctoring for the lowest students who earned a 35% but we have to give a 59%... parents are way too sensitive and way too much ass kissing from the school who bows down to parents every request. It makes our lives really tough.
I lived in Korea and taught English for 7 years. I know what you are talking about. Bribery was common. When I was in the public middle school, I did not have to do the grades because I co-taught the classes. At the university, it was a different story. I had to do my own grading and if I failed a student for non-attendance and for not turning in assignments, the student could just go to the department office and ask for a grade change. It was not often, but that was how it was then. I was there when English had just started in the elementary schools. Kathleen Tice
Question: Should we pay teachers more?
Almost everyone: YES!!!!
Question: Would you pay more taxes to pay teachers more?
Almost everyone: 'crickets'
Yep :/
Maybe you could cut the fat of military budget, or stop subsiding corporations...
One of the biggest problems with K-12 schools is how they're funded, which varies from state to state and district to district. Also, how the money is spent; way too many administrators, contractors, text book salesmen, and fancy football gear. Teacher pay is towards the end of the line when more money is called for.
There was an episode of the Simpsons about that. They went back and forth, wanting better for the kids but not paying more in taxes.
@Anakin Skywalker Your objection is to kids being kept out of school, and you propose an educational system where families of means will be able to send their kids to private school, and everyone else in the country will be shit out of luck.
Teachers don't want to die of a deadly virus, and it is not part of their job to do so. Something like 60% of America's teachers are in one or another of the COVID risk categories, either being over 55 or having some underlying condition of some kind. Shockingly, teachers don't really want to die just so your children can go back and see their friends in person.
Teacher's unions represent the interests of teachers, which is the exact purpose for which they exist.
I’m glad to see the desk again
Everything he said is true! That is coming from a teacher and a parent!
Bill is soooo right. Kids are growing up to be easily triggered social justice warriors.
This is one amazing monologue. Thank you sir!
When every sentence gets a round of applause. Feel forced much.
after the monologue bombed I guess they felt sorry for him
Bill NEEDED This His ego REQUIRED this Tired of being in his Hawaii, LA, and NY mansions and since he cant hit the road He needs to be fed claps. cant wait till his production team starts telling the behind the scenes on this douche!
Been sayin’ this for a while. Thanks, Bill!
And here it is Spring, 2024 and we can add one more thing to this excellent rant ~ please pay teachers much, much, MUCH better than we do now. Cheers.
I sometimes feel like I’m “that parent” but my son has special needs with his severe autism that was actually diagnosed.. He needs me to work WITH his teachers and I DO work with his teachers.. If he’s having trouble I work WITH them, not against them.. They do a marvellous job and I make sure they know it..
So true! I’ve been an educator for 17 years and unsupportive parents and communities really make the job suck. It wasn’t like that when I started.
OMG, this is so true! I tried public school teaching for 6 months. Every time some kid refused to do their work and I gave them a zero the parent would talk to the administration and I would have to give makeup work. I actually had a district administrator tell me why should a parent punish a kid for acting up when everyone in the class acts up? Uh, maybe because you want your kid to be a good person even when no one is looking! So glad I don't teach anymore.
My parents always took the teachers side. And the teacher was always right in my case. I have a nephew who got accepted into a private school that required an interview of the student followed by a private interview of the parents. If the school didn't like the parents, the kid wasn't getting in. AMEN to that.
Don't forget the School Nurses. We get the kids when they are acting out in class.
I would have enjoyed this routine more without the "audience."
Extra annoying tonight. Applaud very funny lines, sure - but not EVERY gag. Yikes.
Put there is an audience
M Thank you for explaining how comedy works. That was really enlightening. 🙄
Spot on! Paid sycophants do NOT a true audience make.
@M It's not the laughing. The laughing is fine. It's the overzealous applause. The show would be wise to do away with the applause signs, or at least tell the audience to tone down the applause. If you watch a pre-Covid episode you'll notice that the applause isn't annoying in the least. It's this new loud, frenzied applause that's rubbing people the wrong way.
THANK YOU!! Amen
I was a Single Mother of 3 kids (3.25 yrs apart), and I loved Summers with my kids. I also loved homeschooling them.
I think the word Bill is looking for is, spoon-feeding
What would we do without you Bill !
You know what everyone is overlooking about this home schooling? There's no more school bullying! Plus, watch how long the country will go without ANY school shootings or anything to this nature!
Maybe, we as a country, have now found the solution on how to stop school bullying.. make everyone home school?!
I see your physical bullying and I raise you cyberbullying.
@@taekwonchic110 Nope, I'll bankrupt you on cyberbullying because cyberbullying can be shutdown immediately by turning the computer off! Not to mention all the kid has to do is just stay off social media platforms. Not like where a kid has to go to school everyday and come into contact with their tormentor and deal with their tormentor daily where there would be no way for the kid to escape the bullying except to be transferred to another school, which would lead to other issues.
Plus with cyberbullying, all communication can be recorded and then the parents can take legal and civil actions against the child and the child's parents because they'll have the evidence to prove the claims. Unlike with school bullying it's always hear say and hard to prove unless other kids step in and verifies the bullying. Which most kids won't do. Also cyberbullying, as long as the kid is not on some group chat room, the cyberbullying will always be 1 on 1, but in schools, other kids join in on the bullying especially if the bully is a popular kid.
@@berniecruz8405 I mean, it doesn't stop when the computer is just off. Kids send mean things to kids on their phones and it doesn't stop with just blocking. Believe me, you're talking to the wrong person about this. I got bullied in person and online. It doesn't just stop because you turn off your computer. I've had a phone since I was 6 because both of my parents worked and I needed to be able to contact them, which is the story of most kids in my generation. It doesn't stop unless you actually confront them.
@@taekwonchic110 Why not use the phone just as a phone , and stay off social media (or am I being too naive)?
@@taekwonchic110 Then you just admitted you were the source of the problem with your bullying. Because you continued to engage on your phone on social media platforms and you didn't block those who were "harassing" you online, you were just perpetuating the bullying.
If you didn't go on social media platforms then you wouldn't have gotten bullied by those people.
But my point is, when engaging online, parents and kids can control the degree of bullying just by simply getting off those social media platforms (i.e. facebook, twitter, tumblr, instagram, snapchat, etc..)
There's no need, in reality, for kids to be on social media platforms. When I was a kid those things didn't exist and the only way I was able to be bullied was only by going to school.
Plus, parents should also be teaching their kids that if they go on social media platforms and are getting bullied by anyone, then to block that person, tell them to "fuck off" and/or report the harasser to the platform customer support! (like one can do on facebook)
My point is, there are more available steps that a kid and/or parent can do to stop cyberbulling than there ever was with kids being bullied in person.
Also, like I said, with cyberbullying, all communications are recorded. Parents and kids need to be taught that if anyone does "bully" online, then to record the messages so that legal action can be taken!
That's how you handle cyberbullying.
But MOST PEOPLE are not aware of these steps that can be taken. This is why cyberbullying exists. Most people, are not computer savy enough to know how to block or record the messaging or even how to report the event to the platform customer service. And that's what needs to change as well.
When I was 15 years one of my teachers said to the class that all of us are mediocre at the best, and always he had the chance he insults us, one day he said if we told this to our parents he will deny this and our parents don't believe us against him. I always have a good relationship with my teachers because I will always be a very good student, the teacher was a bad man and a terrible teacher. I have the luck of having parents with common sense and who listened to what I was saying, when I told them about this teacher they not only believed me but also went to confront him until he admitted that he treated us badly, the other parents realized that their children also told the truth about that man but they had not believed them. There is always a middle ground for which neither extreme serves us, that is why we have this problem, our generation changed the paradigm to the other extreme, the opposite of our parents and it is causing the same or more damage because it is combined with the lack of time and interest that they put to the education of their children.
@guy man If you read all, maybe you can understand the point.
I genuinely want cry for my 5-year old daughter who is experiencing her educational debut via virtual-schooling. It's just not fair to our kids to be deprived of the commadarie and company of their fellow students. And selfish as it is to say this, I don't appreciate having to spend hours a day doing what schools were supposed to do: mold my precious one into a budding, disciplined student. I pray this pandemic leaves our country before long.
“I mark the onset of American decline as the moment parents started siding with their children over the TEACHERS” .... Spot on. And that is also what led to the decline of millenials who are all turning into "screaming angry grievance collectors" in Bills own words. He actually sounds like republican in this monologue😂
Rick the Swift ....republican-cants never supported better schools or funding as long as I was a teacher. (40yrs). Don’t understand your logic???
@@msmith53 That's simply not true. Besides the fact you've missed the gist of the comment- it's about parents siding with the feelings of their spoiled brats, rather than their teachers. The comment had nothing to do with more funding or better schools, which republicans have always supported.
Perhaps after 40 years you might actually realize that republicans have been supporting you and better schools. Just saying.
I consider myself a conservative, and Bill Maher is one of my favorite left-leaning talk show hosts. He gives crap to both sides.
@@Rick-the-Swift Republicans have been cutting education budgets all across the country since the 1980s. You're right that that wasn't the point of the original comment, but let's not pretend that Republicans have any other intention than completely gutting public education. After all, educated voters are not in their best interest.
@@SRosenberg203 Typical democrats, spewing rhetoric without any real knowledge or facts to back it up. This is but one example of why your party has lost trust with so many. www.nccivitas.org/2016/getting-past-the-rhetoric-republicans-democrats-and-education-funding/ ...
Your attempted slant at republicans' so-called desire for uneducated voters is deplorable. You forget that democrats want to lower the voting age to 16 from 18. Why is that? Well of course because they want their voters to be less educated, and more heavily influenced by Hollywood actors, MtV, Hip-hop artists, Bill Maher, Spongebob Squarepants, etc. etc.
thehill.com/homenews/house/434115-pelosi-says-she-backs-lowering-voting-age-to-16
Congrats to both of you though for derailing what has been one of the more sensible comments Bill Maher has made during his career.
Man that was a long-winded way of saying, "Kids these days..."
Except he was really saying "parents these days..."
This is really a CA, NY, DC issue. I am not that old and my parent sided with the teacher. Matter of fact, I was raised with a mentality that says, every problem I have is my own fault. Yet I constantly meet people that seem to NEVER be at fault for anything in their life.
I agree Bill Mahr more than about anyone on television . It's refreshing to know that a person's life can be complete without having babies and adding to the over crowded population that is choking our planet.
As a retired teacher of 48 years, thank you, Bill!
Do the show at home I can’t stand this clapping.
I know right
Bill: *breathes*
Clapping crowd: *goes wild*
No shit Mikey; enough with the goddamn clapping already!
I think it's bc it's a smaller crowd, and people are goofy from corona to participate in anything. . Let him find the crowd in due time. We are here.
Easily the worst thing about his show
FN AMEN. Thank you Bill Maher for speaking truth to why our country is so messed up right now
Wow, I don't agree with Bill often but this is gold. I retired from teaching luckily just before the pandemic.
Spot ON
Thanks, Bill. Be safe.
So spot on!!
“If children don’t learn that life is full of disappointments...They won’t be ready for Democrat primaries.” Perfect way to describe Bernie supporters.
In not a bernie fan but be honest. Bernie got fucked over by the dems.
Thats not a complaint, thats an observation.
@@engeltjebaleno probably the same way they fucked over Wallace in '44. Instead they chose Truman. lol
@@engeltjebaleno Bernie isn't a democrat. He claims to be a Democratic Socialist. He's an independent. He could have been a true 3rd party candidate and started a revolution but he wanted big party backing. His supporters are as bad as Trump's. We need change in both parties. Maybe Bernie's followers can lead the way to a true 3rd party? I'm not sure what will be left of the GOP once Trump is gone? That may lead to a common sense conservative party? The extremists get the attention while most real citizens sit somewhere in the middle imo.
@@onomatopoeia162003 im not old enough to remember that. But it could be true. Wouldnt surprise me.
are you serious? They intentionally and ilegally rigged things against Bernie. Ask Tulsi Gabbard, they wanted her to throw her electoral vote to Clinton contrary to her constituents votes and she refused unlike ALL the other politicians. ITS RIGGED AND ILLEGALLY CORRUPT.
Yeah, show teachers respect by paying them a decent wage!
In 1918, during the Spanish flu, classes were conducted outdoors even during the winter even in places like Chicago. Why isn't that happening now?
Can we go back to "no audience at all" please ?
Everything Bill says is the absolute Truth. Parents should not undermining teacher’s authority.
as long as bill is nixing the trophy for every effort . . .
could he nix the clapping seal audience that claps his every word ?
Bill doesn't just deliver the lines... he writes the damn stuff! Brilliance starts with a "b", and so does "Maher."
378 people are helicopter parents
Or are actually parents, which Bill isn't.
491 now! HA!
@@Proudmule1 I'm guessing you're one of the parents he was talking about. Be honest.
@@michaelvanderwal7390 Yeah, that's as cheap and easy as what Bill does. I assume like him, you aren't a parent and therefore really have no idea what you are talking about. Not saying there aren't helicopter parents but the generalization is wildly uninformed and inaccurate. (If you are a parent, good luck and good luck to your kids)
@@Proudmule1 No, I'm a teacher and I see this garbage every day. Some parents just can't accept that their kid cheated, plagiarized, or is bullying other children. Others can't accept that their kid just might not be perfect at everything. I love the kids, I have great colleagues, but the absolute worst part of my job is dealing with some of the parents.
spot on
Blame attorneys for American decline. Teachers cannot discipline anymore.
New appreciation for teachers? Its their job. We spend 52 weeks a year taking care of our kids AND working. So we should appreciate teachers more now because we now have to fit their jobs into our busy schedules. 😂😂 I hope teachers appreciate running a tree service and doing risky removals putting everything they have in life on the line on top of being a full time teacher and taking care of my kids over the summer...
Thank you!!!!
7 years ago I was a lunch supervisor for a blended grades 1/2/3 class. Never again.
Someone tell the audience that they don’t need to clap every 5 seconds
Bill spot on here.
It’s weird to me, that Bill is considered left leaning, when he ascribes to so many right wing beliefs.
I like how he took a conversation that was meant to "thank teachers", and sent down the holes to name a few; Authority rule, punishing a generation for being too needy (a typical and tired trope of any older generation), congratulating China in its better job numbers because all the kids are so much smarter than a to the government of china...? And that it has nothing to do with forced labor, poor labor, and the use of them all a government cog to make the government money to keep its lower globally.
Not a single mention of better pay for teachers, better funded schools, to name the easiest things to even consider if you know anything about the struggles teachers actually have.
Also, I think it’s always important to remember that Bill is an anti-vaxxer. It seems that no one he speaks to wants to discuss this issue with him, so just making sure more people know.
Hes a moderate like the majority of people.
It's not right wing to believe in good behavior you dimwit.
That's why Bill Maher is so great. Because he IS left leaning, but he's still got no compunctions whatsoever to call out areas in which the left acts ridiculous. I suspect he feels similar to the way I feel, which is that I want to support the Democrats because I believe in many of the values that they espouse, but they make it really fucking difficult because of their incompetence and spinelessness. I get the impression Bill Maher feels the same way.
@@SRosenberg203 Exactly. He doesn't blindly follow people on the left or right. He will criticize both sides although he does lean left more but that is because the right has gone crazy and has made stupidity mainstream. Although some ideas on the left are crazy too.
Despite what Trump and others would have us think, right and left are far more alike than different. Be kind. Be safe.
And now the exact opposite is true. The national teacher's union is fighting to keep schools closed, and insert thier own ideologies into the classroom. Public opinion of teachers has made a complete 180.
About fucking time. And respect don't pay the bills. PAY THEM!!!
Not every situation is the same, Bill.
We have to consider them one by one but I had more than several memorable teachers. Loved this piece.
And then the teachers pushed too far.
Loved this!
THANK BILL!
Honestly if anyone has "too much self-esteem", it's you Bill Maher, just sayin'.
If you want self-esteem you have to do esteemable things.
@@paulstillman2878 Bill Maher is a spoilt out of touch rich white guy who is often ignorant of a lot things he talks about.
Love it when he says something sarcastic and stands there and gloats for toooo long before he goes on to the next "sarcastic" comment. What's with this guy?
I love my time with my kids, all 7 of them!