What Did SpaceX Change & Upgrade For Starship's 3rd Flight Test?
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
- Starship’s third full stack flight test is just around the corner and with the first two tests achieving some merits of success and progress, the third flight with Booster 10 and Ship 28 has made some pretty substantial upgrades and changes to not only the hardware but also the flight profile.
00:00 - Intro
00:42 - Pad Upgrades
01:28 - Booster Upgrades
02:38 - Ship Upgrades
04:43 - Mission Changes
06:52 - Summary
For a more detailed rundown on all the exact changes, may I recommend checking out this incredible article by my friends at Ringwatchers - ringwatchers.com/article/s28-...
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Youre arguably the best , as far as i can tell...in this space. No pun intended. lol. Cant believe i wasnt subscribed. Its my policy to do so on every channel as im considering being a utube. But i look at many different , mostly scientific health and business material so i may have overlooked it. Aerospace is a lifelong passion so thanks for your continued contribution. And maybe some others will follow the policy of support altho id say you are doing quite well. Bravo.
Ok
Tim dod when are u going down to starbase?
I sure hope it gets further along than the previous one.
If Space-X isn't blowing something up on a regular basis, they're probably doing it wrong....
They F*** it up, they blow it up, and they learn more from their failures than they do from their success!!!
TBH I really miss more frequent content from your channel and while I find the "regular" spacex channels that do videos twice a week and therefore scrape for content to be boring, I really like you doing this one. This is important, info dense, and up to your usual quality. I think you could do more of these, when there's real news to share :)
absolutly, i dont care that a worker changed a toilet seat AJ684 in toilet b43
@@l4bells851 I thought it was AJ687 😜
The best weekly update channel for a nice summary is Marcus House - he's excellent. Also the (mostly) weekly in depth dives is RGV Aerial Photography with their really great 'Starbase Weekly' live streams.
@@SlartiMarvinbartfastI do love watching his stuff but since I've been following along for long enough on space news I'm mostly interested in those seriously-pushing-the-envelope events. I'll probably keep watching him but it would be sweet if Tim did more regular coverage. I love his style and polish on everything
Highly recommend 'Starbase Pink' great brief daily reports
Thank you for making a shorter video that I can actually watch on a whim.
I second this, for how short of a time it was, it's really enjoyable
+2, love the shorter format material just as much as the long form. Great work, Tim and team!
Agreed
Short term is fine but shouldn't be the regular:)
Like Harris Bomberdude, I think the ideal EDA video is 3-4 hours long
Cannot wait for launch day! GO STARSHIP!
Gotta love exploding stuff.
@@KrustyKlownSteel firework
This will be so exciting, really hope to see booster and ship reentry!
@@XxDramaticBatubruh
Indeed. I'll be watching for sure. 🤩
UA-cam has a lot of enthusiasts posting weekly updates. Some of them are interesting, but YOURS is by far the best produced and has the highest quality content. I will be there watching your livestream whenever it occurs.
10 years watching youtube space enthusiasts , I am starting to question if it is still about space and science, or turning into some sort of cult. Total lack of criticism, constant pandering, turning every launch into sermon, framing failures and great success ..
Thanks for the timely update, Tim!
Pointey end up, flamey end down!
For the first few minutes at least
finny fins out
Good thing they made the nose more pointy. Safety measure
That's my morning bathroom ritual.
Seriously? Will that get us the best possible kaboom? If so, I'll get right on it and make sure they know that on the assembly line!
WHOA, Tim's back in the business of making update videos? We finally have the perfect trifecta of purely update videos with WAI doing 2x week of super deep dives, Marcus House 1x week going a bit broader and Everyday Astronaut coming in once a month or two with a ultra-brief and concise summary. It's a good day to be alive and following spaceflight!
Why would you watch WAI or House when you could get less annoying content from RGV Aerial, Lab Padre, CSI Starbase, and even NSF?
and space x pink
@@KeandeLacy
and also Scott Manley
@@KeandeLacy let him watch what he wants, while I am not the biggest fan of his videos they can be helpful.
Everyone has a certain amount of spare time, so a range of You Tube channels is helpful to us all.
I refuse to be drawn into 'who is the best', because the user is the one, whose precious spare time is going to to determine 'who the best is' for their needs. And what their angle of interest too, will determine what suits them best.
IMO, surviving re-entry is the most important test. If the heat tiles don't work (or just fall off), or the mass to surface area ratio is too large for it to bleed off enough speed before it hits the thickest parts of the atmosphere, then it's a serious problem. That's not something that software updates or slight adjustments to hardware will fix. It's critical to the whole point of starship that it can survive re-entry.
They've been working on launching the rocket and staging, not reentry. I'd hardly be calling something which isn't even a focus of IFT3 'the most' important test let alone important at all. They will work on improving heat shielding when reentry is a primary focus.
The latter problem would be kind of shocking; that's something that should've been nailed down decently close during design of the vehicle. It wouldn't be surprising to see them explore exactly how much margin they have for losing tiles without things melting at some point. It makes a pretty big difference, e.g. for rapid reuse and not repeating the fate of the space shuttle, if losing 2 adjacent tiles threatens the vehicle vs if it can survive loosing a dozen+ in one area.
On this trajectory they can´t even really test the heat shield.
So whether or not the tiles detach will make no difference to the ship surviving reentry or not. It does not get hot enough to fully compromise the steel tank walls.
The real test is the hypersonic stability and steer-ability of the ship.
They have already begun design work of starship version 2. The data they gather from these test, including the heat shield, will influence the design.
If burning up on re-entry is the only issue that’s not an issue. Worst case scenario in that case is learning plenty more from 3 more launches of version 1 even if they all burn up. Version 2 will likely fly before the end of the year. They are not planning on trying to catch a booster or land a starship until after v2 has flown a few times.
@@FireStormOOO_ True, but aerodynamic modelling at hypersonic speeds is notoriously difficult and unreliable. It's difficulty was a major problem with the shuttle throughout it's life, and starship's belly flop is rather shuttle-esque. It's also problematic design-wise because it's the _last_ thing you can test. You can do static fire tests of engines, but you can't do ground tests of hypersonic re-entry. Which means that you have to work on getting everything else working near-perfectly, and only then can you see if there are serious issues with it.
I have no doubt that fuel sloshing and the like could be fixed with minor changes relatively easily. But if there big problems with re-entry? Back to the drawing board. That's why I see it as the only major question mark remaining as to Starship's viability as a vehicle, it's the only place where near insurmountable (or surmountable only with serious compromises) difficulties might remain.
I would not be surprised to see this thing complete its flight profile as planned. I'm really looking forward to seeing this happen.
BUHUHUHUHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
We also shouldn't be surprise if it blows up at just about any point in it flight profile.
Yeah the do a reasonable target and lauch as soon as they can hit it.
That's the basis of their quick development cycle.
@@sparksmcgee6641 Yep. They're going for maximum kabooms on the tax payer's dime as possible. Can't support our schools or help get under-nourished kids fed, but lots of spectacular rocket failures, even though they've got the blueprints which the Apollo programme left us, they can't even figure out how to get it into orbit? Well, at least we get a really great spectacle out of it when it explodes.
Money down the drain
This is a really great and concise Starship update! It's much appreciated.
Currently celebrating 3,years 2 months and 27 days for being a supporting member. Thx for everything
Big fan of the shorter format. Thanks
Very excited for IFT-3.Hoping for some cool onboard footage.
Thanks Tim and team. This was a great balance between detail and being concise with several changes covered.
Thanks Tim, that was a nice brief capture of some of the changes.
Same with you on predictions. Hoping to see booster “survive” and for ship to at least make it to reentry.
We NEED Starship to work by now too.
@@billhanna2148 Nah. We're way past that time. The original schedule had him landing on the moon by now. Really all we're doing now is playing with really big fireworks, because in reality, the project is a failure. Late and over budget. Now we're just blowing things up for the fun of it. Gotta do something with all that grifted money. We don't want the Feds to start looking at it as a Ponzi scheme, now do we?
Last I was this early, Starliner was on schedule
😂
Starliner was never on schedule 🙊
Starwhiner? What Starwhiner?
Great summary thanks man, love your fast pace and great visuals
Tim, you’re killing it! We always love the deep dives, but these intermittent short forms are such a pleasant treat. Keep it up!
Nice job delivering quality update details. Keep it up
Great video! Love your short stuff too. Bite size with the great quality we've come to love and appreciate!
Thanks for the updates! Havnt been following the program as much lately, this was a super helpful summary! Good luck to spacex for the upcoming test 🙌
Great job as always! I love the longer format videos for deep dives, but these shorter ones are really nice to watch on-the-go. Now that SpaceXcentric is bowing out, I think the short updates would really fit in well with your channel.
Sad about SpacXcentric but that's his choice. I still think that between Tim and Keven, they have the BEST intro music to their channels.
Kevin made some questionable choices and said some disturbing things in the early days of SpacXcentric but he seems to have found faith and this will hopefully steer him in the right direction for the future.
Yep, I've had some of your hour videos sit waiting until I have time to concentrate on a full watch.
@@straighttalk2069 Yes, the right direction of fairy tales, get bent.
@@straighttalk2069 what disturbing things has he said?
Godspeed SpaceX and Starship! 🚀
Thx for this update Tim! Good luck with your coverage
Good to see you again, Tim. Thank you for the update.
Excited to see how heat shield tile shower goes 😂
Excitement Guaranteed
Cue KSP1 march op fanfare
Wow! I’ve been away two years. Your production has really matured. Good job Tim!
Awesome video again Tim and great to see the in depth changes you have found. Can't wait to see the launch this week.
Looking forward to your non-X broadcast.
Finally, a Starship update that actually talks about important stuff.
I’d love a Tim Dodd update like this every few months! As a longtime viewer of the channel I love your long form content too and I am happy waiting for them. I know they will be done when it’s done!
However; this video is so nice to have among all the weekly starbase update channels that seem to hype up the most insignificant things just because they need content.
Your content is so clear, easy to follow, and doesn’t have unnecessary UA-cam hype and clickbait like other space channels. Thanks for the content!
Love this Tim, highly informative short-form videos are a win for me! Looking forward to joining you for the launch 🚀
6:09 couldn't the reason for not attempting a soft landing be that the propellant transfer is moving fuel away from the header tanks, so it wouldn't be able to do it?
He said they're not going to bother with the software necessary for a soft landing until they know Starship can survive re-entry.
@@JPMadden yeah but that’s speculation isn’t it? i highly doubt they haven’t worked on that part of the software.
@@UnbaguettableI'm not saying they've done none of the work. I'm guessing they're skipping just those details that would be necessary for this flight path.
@@JPMadden i mean regardless they can’t do a landing burn if they don’t have fuel in the header tanks.
This makes a lot of sense to me. I was wondering why they wouldn't just have the program in there in case it does make it down to the ocean in one piece.
If they no longer have fuel in the header tanks because of the transfer, that makes a lot sense they wouldn't even go for it.
I'll be watching you and you're coverage....again.....the past two IFTs were awesome.....but this one....FULL BLOWN 4K !!! Heckin Yeah !!!! 🤟
Great summary of updates!!! Looking forward to the coverage I know it’s gonna be great!
Thanks Tim
Excellent detailed work. Thank you.
Anyome excited to see another of this beast going up?
Need more cow bell!!!
Excellent recap of the changes! Short and to the point! Thank You!
Love these kind of updates from you!!
SpaceX seems is focusing right now in starship achieving orbit and logistic readyness for the Artemis program rather than surviving reentry, NASA really must be pushing the buttons
Reusability is necessary for going to the moon. It's going to take something like 12 to 16 refueling trips to starship in orbit before it can depart for the moon..
@@Bryan-Hensley Yes but right now fuel transfer is more important than reusability in order to advance with the Lunar Gateway payload logistics and the Artemis program, sacrificing starships in the firts steps is not out of the question
Just like Falcon 9
One step at a time if two isn't working.
@@radicalxg8282 it's all important. They can't throw away 12 plus ships and boosters just to send one to the moon.
I assume they're launching to the exact same trajectory as last time so that if the Indian Ocean re-entry burn doesn't work for whatever reason, they still have a passive re-entry near Hawaii as a fail-safe, a built-in backup.
That is what I am thinking too but haven't seen anyone confirm this.
Yes, but he forgot to say after the payload door test, a fuel transfert from header tanks to bottom ones. Then retrograde to reach indian ocean or hawaii if engine dont work.
It's more likely they need the fuel in the header tanks to generate extra delta-v to (hopefully) reach the Indian Ocean. It's really a ballistic flight test.
Maybe it will end up on MH370 ;)
Wow, *THIS* was a _Really Good_ presentation.
& I Loved your style *_STRAIGHT_*_ To the point_
----too many guys just LIKE the sound of their own voice.
having NO "Fluff" is _Nice To Hear_ ... I actually was replaying parts of it a few times bc it's so chock-full of tech info
Great video Tim (and crew) Good luck to SpaceX.
There's basically no chance it will survive reentry and SpaceX surely knows it. Almost entirely because the tiles along the seams are still glued on, and it's understood perfectly well that those tiles will likely entirely fall off. What I'm keen to know is whether the remote splashdown location means there won't be vehicles in the air on hand to document the event visually. For the first two flights, they had these ready to go, but then that was reasonably close to Hawaii. I still want to see that footage.
And a lot less eyeballs to see it belly flop into the ocean.
Most likely, they just want to make it to sub-orbit, test propellant transfer, opening bay door and gather data. It surviving reentry will mostly be irrelevant.
I've not heard anything about it, but they _could_ send aircraft to Diego Garcia or the Maldives...
@@simongeard4824 Exactly. You would think this would be important enough for it. Even if the connection between Starship and Starlink remains good, that'll stop the moment it begins reentry, and it will never come back because the ship will quickly transition to fireball. I _really_ hope they have this figured out.
Disappointing to hear it's just belly flopping into the ocean
Shouldn't really be a surprise
It isn't. It's raining down into the ocean in millions of hot melted pieces.
Thank you very much for your review! As always, short and clear.
Perfect presentation of OFT 3 and what changes in comparison with OFT2. Super clear. Big thanks ! Can't wait for launch day !
Hopefully musk will be aboard the next test.
Space X not streaming on UA-cam just to stoke Elon’s fragile ego is utter madness.
His choice. Besides, we have Tim and NSF for that.
It’s his, I mean it makes sense to drive traffic to X
@@sc1338 it does make sense from Elons perspective, but he’s driving it to a drastically worse product. Space X deserve to be able to operate without pandering to him and his ‘X’ project. Streaming on more platforms means more engagement and exposure for SpaceX
Thanks for the update!
Thank you! That was massively helpful. Really appreciated.
Doing amazing work Tim and team !!! Thank you!❤
Great video Tim. Nice to see you pop back up in my feed.
Thanks for the update. Tim and the crew rock.
Great summary, can't wait for launch!
You have come such a long way. I used to nerd out to you wearing your space suit, now youre all professional and stuff. Either way, im your fan man👨🚀
Thanks for the timely update. Fingers crossed!
Thank you for good content. Concise editing.
love the short update video! exactly what I like to see
Great video btw, short and to the point, great visuals, love it when it's not to long
Great summary; can't wait for the 4k livestream!
Great update thanks!
great summary thank you!!!!
Thanks for the Update Tim!!!
Hey nice update Tim, looking forward to a successful launch #3. I can't be there for this one, wishing you the best!
Great video Tim, love it!
Is Tim doing the mock simulations for these videos? They're really fantastic for showing what's expected, and great quality!
Fantastic summary ! Thanks !
Great stuff. Keep up the good work.
EXCELLENT coverage of actual updates!
Perfect Coverage. Thanks!
Thank you Mr. Dodd for the updates.
Regards,
Anthony
I just subscribed to you. Great short and super informative video. Thank you 🙏🏻
Best preview of Flight #3 I've seen. Congrats!
Man! That staging footage at 0:03 just never gets old to me! Outstanding shot! So beautiful!
Cant wait for your full debrief of IFT-3!
Thanks Tim! Can't wait for the launch!
Excellent. Very clear and to the point.
Great update video! Thank you! ✨💖😊💖✨
Thanks Tim, now I can jump back in to your livestream of today's launch!
Great stuff as always! I expect most milestones to be met with this flight, but re-entry ... well, those tiles haven't really been tested yet. Excitement guaranteed!
Thank You! Tim great information as usual.
This is pretty freaking cool! It’s crazy to see this progress from SpaceX and I am very much looking forward to seeing all points met on IFT3.
Tim, love your channel and everything you and your team does. You are by far one of my top 5 favorite content creators (alongside Scott Manley of course). Keep up the amazing work and can’t wait to join the IFT3 stream, let’s light this candle!
Exactly the subject I was wanting to hear about. 👊👍
We needed this shorter format. It's so very welcome!
THANK YOU! Finally a very informative and thorough briefing from someone that obviously knows the material.
Wonderful episode! I'm passionate about expediency = less is more and quality, not quantity.
Thanks for squeezing it all in. The caparison charts are tops, as are specific photos and renderings. A best in class production.
Thank you Tim, that was a very encouraging video report! I'll be watching for your liftoff coverage!
Informational hail / kudos / thank you Sir from Finland - naturally I simply can not wait for launch - thanks to u I be informed about all mentioned little nuances worked under hood 🤘
Cheers Tim. Look forward to ur coverage.
Thank you for the update, I was feeling a little lost on the goals of ift-3.
Also, I love the shorter format for this kind of stuff
Excellent video, thanks for all of the hard work. Have a safe trip to Starbase!
Nice summary of what we will see on the next launch!
Keep up the good work. I appreciate the more in depth content, even if it is less frequent. Like anything else, a good source of information places a premium on quality over quantity.
Another infomative video!!
Great summary, thank you for this video! SpaceX are truly next level with their iteration style worflow! Getting hyped for another exciting launch!
I hope we get a live stream from Starship. Thank you for your content Tim. I'm praying for a successful test!