Jim Cornette on Chuck Taylor's Grenade Spot
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
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"I love Dave Meltzer. He's the best journalist in wrestling."
Oh my, how things have changed...
Listening to these older videos when Cornette was still really fond of guys like Melzer and Jericho is kind of surreal now lol
@@ferroseed8768 Lol, I know!
@ferroseed8768 yeah he he gave them the benefit of the doubt so many times now fast forward he be verbally crucifying them😂
Lol yep.@@itsnotjayboi
@@ferroseed8768I stumbled across a clip where Meltzer was actually guesting on Cornette's show. Mindboggling now!
The young bucks being from PWG explains A LOT about them
From PWG? They own PWG with Excalibur
@@greghughes6098 you know they started there right prior to buying it. My god you indie fans truly are moronic
@@greghughes6098 well, they're from PWG but also own PWG
cancer has to start somewhere i guess
@@greghughes6098 Actually it's owned by Super Dragon, Excalibur, & Joey Ryan
Cornette: Who would book these guys?
Tony Khan: Hold my dad's checkbook
Considering the results he's getting, he may have the last laugh. People thought Vince was too silly in the 80's and we know how that worked out. (not saying I like it)
@@Tim85-y2q AEW got lowest rating ever today how about that mark
Many of today’s generation of wrestlers are a disgrace to the business.
@@justjilly1966 and many wrestlers from years gone by were disgraces to the business. “The business” as you knew it was dirty as hell and shortened the lives of hundreds of people for no good reason.
@@mattj4112 yes but nobody knew it because they had good enough sense to keep it under wraps and has qtleast enough respect for the business to protect. And they never disgraced in ring w/ their performance bud, which these marks in the ring nowadays do every single match.
If I ever have a bad day Jim Cornette rants make them better.
Works like a charm. That's why we love him
💯
And now theres a whole company full of these guys
More like a whole generation of these guys.
Billy nothing wrong with that
@@CarbonGod666 Shut it make
@@randomiser2267 mean mark?
@@CarbonGod666 you are a mark, sir
from 4:21 to 4:34 I cannot stop laughing!!!!! he said he wants to rip his fucking eyes out LMFAO
"I hate your grandchildren" hahaha a new level of savagery, godamn I love Cornette!
you're into senile, butthurt old men?
@@Kooobf No he's not into you. He likes Cornette.
@@CatsClaw44 that's the worst comeback I've ever seen: Cornette's fanboys' comebacks are as worthless as his opinions.
@@Kooobf Chuck Taylor fan?😋
That's because you are a mark for a guy with unclever insults 🤡
"the play wrestlers are at it again" LMAO
Cornette should film reaction videos of himself seeing things like this
He'd give green psycho a run for his money 😂
I want him to react to the kennel of hell match
YES!!!!!
This is my favorite Corny rant. I come back to it every couple of months. Especially the part at 4:20
bit ironic that timestamp is when he gets the most angry lmfao
This rant is like the kayfabe declaration of independence lol, probably the best summation of everything wrong with the business today.
Back when Jim and Dave liked eachother, or atleast pretended
Jim is right about how Dave is nowadays.
What makes you think they don't like each other now
@@djcdm8499 did you listen to what Jim Cornette said ?
I'm sorry you mean dave meltzer I understand now
@@djcdm8499 it's cool man. That AEW thing on the football field really, REALLY did it for Jim. He was steaming with anger.
'They all started doing duck walks!' Only Jim could deliver that line like that! 😆😆
"The only way I can explain why he likes this shit is weed's legal in California now"💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
And a year later, weed is federally decriminalized and legal in many other states, including my home state on NY!
That said... I have smoked for decades, and weed does not make this joke wrestling funny or acceptable to me.
Dave Meltzer likes this kind of wrestling because he doesn't like ACTUAL professional wrestling... and he never has.
He's always been a bigger fan of over the top, completely unbelievable story lines like the ones Jim is talking about.
The difference between Dave then and now...
Jim was the few if not only person in the buisness that gave Dave any credit and now that is gone.
4:22 yo the grilling is unreal 😂😂
Corny can be a total savage 🤣
The Milli Vanilli analogy was spot on.
Really wasn't.
"Real musicians" don't win grammys. They actually consider them a bit of a joke that's only for regurgitated pop acts.
@@parsath_2584 the milli vanilli fan has been spotted 😂
Honestly, I think the analogy would apply more to the kayfabe era of wrestling since the scandal with them stemmed from the fact that they were presenting themselves as something they were not.
Modern wrestlers (especially Cornette's talking about here) tend to freely admit they're just putting on a show and it would be more akin to Milli Vanilli openly billing themselves as a karoke act.
I think the better analogy is, coincidentally, the modern music with all of their autotunes and nudity and asses and shit.
It wasn't because wrestling has always been fake and it's had dumb shit in it for decades. Jim's era let kayfabe go, they brought in the cartoony dumb gimmicks, they admitted it was all a work. What is happening now is because of what happened before.
Jim is still hung up in wrestling being seen as "legit" and it never will be again, it's just entertainment.
How is Milli Vanilli pretending to sing any different than Hulk Hogan pretending to beat Andre The Giant?
I have a feeling that Jim didn't really like this Chuck Taylor guy.
Only a hunch though
What gives you that impression?
“Cody did that?” The disappointment in Jim’s voice 😂😂😂
He was hurt lol. Probably called Cody right after this podcast tbh
I don't always agree with Jim's views on modern wrestling... But in THIS case... He's 100% correct.
kingofkings69ner they weren’t pretending the turtle was real tho
Turtle didn't use invisible weapons
awkc 63 L
This is the best wrestling according to Dave Meltzer and Wade Keller.
Meltser said njpw and cmll have the best wrestling
And me
I know I'm two years late to the party here, but I resent that comment about weed being to blame for Meltzer's poor taste in wrestling. I smoke a lot of weed and sure, it may be the reason I'm commenting about a two year old UA-cam video, but by no means am I entertained by any of those clowns.
Heardddddddd
What's wrong about commenting on a 2 yr old video?
Fucking junkie
I revisit the old Cornette rants sometimes when I smoke. Makes for good listening. And I laughed when he said that thing about meltzer. Jim was in wrestling during the real rock and roll days when coming across a straight edge guy in the business was an uncommon occurrence. He knows there’s a difference between smoking a spliff and snorting heroin. Also it’s a nicer and more articulate thing to say than: “meltzer is desperate to stay in-touch and feels bad because they name moves after him so he finds nominal things about this cartoon wrestling that he can praise, gives them their stars, and doesn’t say anything about the lows of the match.”
nobody cares what u stupid pot heads have to say, shut up and go back to frying your stupid brain, idiots
Dang Jim is good at insulting people
4 years on cornette still brings up the wrestling a kid, wrestling a blow up doll, and invisible hand grenade spots... those where the very incidents that led to the aew/cornette war we are currently living through 😂😂
At least he's consistent
@@mberto25 yeah consistently angry 😀
Jim makes a great and astute comment here. These guys are so mentally disconnected that they don’t understand what’s wrong with doing this or why they should be ashamed of it, and how it hurts everyone in the long run.
At this POINT its safe to say us EAST coast people vs. Those WEST coast guys would be a massacre LMAO
I'm 24 and my buddy is 21 and I told him about the this phony grenade spot and he looked at me like I had mouth full of dog turds
I’m 23 and people my age feel the same. It’s just fucking stupid
I’m 3 years old and I told this exact thing to my 1 year old buddy and he said, “goo goo gah gah”
Tell him about Shockmaster, The Gobbledygooker, wresting on broken light bulbs, Robocop and all the other dumb shit that's gone on in wrestling the last 30 years.
If dumb shit like invisible grenades bothers you you should just find something else to watch because wresting is full of dumb shit.
@@Vichedges That shit's nowhere near as bad. Come on. How do you justify a bunch of guys bumping off an invisible grenade? It makes wrestling look like a farce.
@@leroymelancholy3825 wrestling is a farce. That’s my point.
Sometimes I come back to the old rants and it just makes me feel warm and hateful inside
And this is what became AEW.
Man, Dave Muppet really shot any credibility he had to absolute shit in short order. He literally played Human Shield for one of these Muffin Top Taylor grenades the moment they renamed Chiara Wrestling Guerilla to AEW didn't he 😭😭😭
I once met a girl whose a wrestling fan. she told me she was a big fan of PWG and Joey Ryan. I haven't talked to her since.
Get this man a beer!
A WINNER IS YOU!!!
Mike Peterson you know damn well no woman has ever spoke to you.
Mike Peterson Pretty sure this girl doesn't exist. With that said, This girl sounds WAY to good for you.
Lmao. Not talking to a girl because of her personal preference. What a lad
matt riddle, adam cole, ricochet, tommaso ciampa, candice larae, pete dunne, aleister black, finn balor, johnny gargano, aj styles, daniel bryan, apollo cruz, austin aries, cedric alexander, cesaro, chris kanyon, cm punk, cody rhodes, drew mcintyre, jake the snake, jay lethal, jeff jarrett, jushin liger, kalisto, karl anderson, kevin owens, sami zayn, neville, rvd, roddy piper, samoa joe, seth rollins, shane douglas, terry funk, the hurricane, and im sure i missed a few, have all wrestled for pwg....
Naming the likes of Dynamite Kid the notoriously sick and awful human being who would hurt people on purpose wouldn't lower himself to work with an invisible handgrenade, so?
@MemphoWrasslin1 jim cornette made a statement saying no one worth a fuck has ever been in pwg. i made a list showing a multitude of quality workers who have been a part of pwg, negating and disproving the validity of that statement.
making a list of people who havent been in pwg is completely irrelevant to the topic. the only thing youve accomplished is showing how much you havent understood the premise or point of the comment.
congratulations & good job on an awesome supercool list though, it totally kicks ass dude...
@MemphoWrasslin1 lol whatever you say big guy 👍
@@wilsoncrocker Sup, bro. Know that this is old, but I agree on what you mean with your list.
Cornette left out the best part that after the grenade goes off one of the guys makes the "X" sign as he's selling his leg.
From the same guy who once slapped somebody for not taking the Boogyman seriously
Yeah?
The Boogeyman might be a horrible gimmick, but he still looks like he could legitimately win a fight without resorting to pretending to use a hand grenade. Smdh
Muffin Top Tayor has one of the most kickable faces in wrestling.
In the late 90s I had witnessed some backyard wrestling and seen some homegrown in a field on a "tarp" type of wrestling. It really is bad. I mean every single time they're bringing in lawn chairs and lightbulbs and they blade each other and it's just a bad product by a bunch of drop out looking teens. I'll pass
That's what CZW is these days.
"None of these guys will ever work for a major wrestling company"
Still stands
Hate to break it to you but that's already provide to be false.
All Elite Wrestling says hello
@@revelstatus2346 All Elite Wrestling says bye. Bush league indy fed who've put on one show and have a bunch of nobodies with old man Jericho. Massive L.
@@SNOCHILT TNT prime time says hello
Wrestling was much better years ago, with more entertaining people and life on the road. oh yeah they actually made money then too.
"None of these guys have a chance at working for a major promotion anyway."
Tomasso Ciampa worked in ROH and works in WWE. Trent? currently works in both Ring of Honnor and NJPW. Same with Chuck Taylor. Willie Mack got signed to Lucha Underground. I think they're doing pretty good for themselves
You just made the case why pro wrestling these days is so terrible and unpopular
Explain that sentence. Because the rational is completely ridiculous. Tomasso Ciampa was in this match. Tomasso Ciampa works in WWE. Ergo wrestling sucks. Because it couldn't be that WWE has a vice grip on what mainstream media considers wrestling to be. It couldn't be that the Benoit murders poisoned public perception of the entire industry. Stuff like this is overall harmless because everyone in the world knows that its fake and it will never again be otherwise.
Uhhh he already covered Ciampa, you fucking moron. LU? Yeah...a show that is seen by 2 people. Trent and Chuck are nothing more than an underneath guys that will be forgotten about before they are even buried in the ground. It also proves that the WWE has signed most anyone worth a damn so companies like ROH has to scrape the bottom of the barrel to fill out their roster.
If they're underneath guys then why does it matter?
+The Masked Heel Chuckie and Trent are former iwgp Jr tag team champs sir
Is it weird that I like Chuck Taylor and Cornette. Like I've been a regular viewer of Corny's for like 2 years but I get a kick out of Taylor's spots.
Full disclosure: I like PWG, I've been to their show's and will continue to go. That's why I hate the fact that I completely agree with Corny.
Hahaha what?😂
But that's OK. I agree with Corny and don't remotely care for PWG...but he's overreacting. Yes it's dumb, but no it doesn't "hurt the business" or anybody else. Corny loves Memphis, thinks it was perfect, and has no issue that they let Andy Kaufman mock wrestling (and that's what he was doing), doesn't mind making Kane the Christmas Creature...but this is too far? GTFOH
Tommy Kincaid how can you go to that crap show. They’re making a joke of wrestling
@@TheASHTON33 This is the only thing that makes wrestling relevant nowadays, people dont give a shit about fake fighting anymore.
@@78bcat Andy Kaufman was not mocking wrestling whatsoever. He was probably one of the biggest fans of it at the time, and was just doing what he loved.
I'm guessing Jim's not one of Chucky T's best friends lol
one thing you can't say about Jim, you can't say he's not consistent, he's always raged over dumb crap like this
I think comedy in wrestling (like the grenade spot) works in a small Indy company like Chikara. That’s a small niche company and it attracts a small amount of people. For a large company or a company that wants to be large, it doesn’t work, but comedy in wrestling can work when done right
I want to believe that Karma got involved as why he is retiring, we have come ultra far from this lads
Imagine paying money and seeing someone throw an invisible hand grenade, you might as well pay a homeless guy to do that. Hows he got a job in AEW making good money, oh yeah cause he's "best friends" with everyone
4:20 to 4:35 😂😂😂
I hate your fucking grandchildren you piece of shit
Embarrassed to admit I replayed that over 30 times already, AND COUNTING HAHAHA
20 years ago, it was 1997. The attitude era. Jim needs to realize that "20 years ago" in his head is actually 40 years ago.
I thought that too. I could see his "20 years ago" applying to the mid 80's. (so closer to 30 years ago than 40) but not any more recently than that.
The modern era of wrestling starts in the mid 80's so his logic isn't that off.
@@Kfowlkes09 thank you
@ninjast4r exactly
@ninjast4r I'm guessing you missed every Rob Van Dam and Jerry Lynn match in ECW then. They pretended to have their dicks castrated through invisible hand grenades and got a pin fall through "blood loss" coming from their dicks. Did that spot every night for a year.
I admittedly laughed at this spot, and I’m not ashamed to admit it, especially when you look at WWE still carrying on the Gobbledygooker and worse yet the 24/7 title, and even WORSE when they had Nia Jax coming out and tripping over everything, was it an ‘insult to professional wrestling’? Possibly, but people are gonna like what they like and there’s no changing that
selling the leg was the best part
Jim has a point here
Not really. Wrestling has been a joke since the early 80s. It is just entertainment. Jim prefers old school but the thing is that's all been done before a million times and everyone knows it's fake. The new guys don't have much to work with.
Jim has worked with organizations that have done stuff just as dumb. Jim wants people to respect wrestling the way he does and that's never going to happen. He's going to have an aneurysm the way he gets worked up over this dumb shit.
R E ok
It was the Holy HandGrenade. Lol.
I must admit that this does my heart good. Over the years, my son and I have met many wrestlers, and they've almost all been great. I won't even try to list all of them that were gracious, patient and humble. I do want to single out Roddy Piper as the most gracious one of all, and mention Melina, who was a sweetheart despite what I've read of her reputation. But there were two exceptions. One, very surprisingly, was Tommy Dreamer, but I can excuse that because he was quite busy trying to run a House of Hardcore event. The one I can't excuse was Chuck Taylor. He was a straight up prick. When I approached him, I mentioned that I had been following Dan Barry in a local promotion and thought, since they both did comedy on the side, that they might make an interesting tag team. I was brushed off in the snottiest, most dismissive manner, only to see, maybe a year later, the two of them doing some talk show together. Taylor looks like a clown when he comes out from the curtain, and contributes virtually nothing. So, Corny, thanks for this bitch slap, it's well deserved.
Back when Cornette used to “love” meltzer.... oh how much I wish he still loved him
Corny kinda hurt his argument by using musicians as a comparison. Weird Al Yankovic, Victor Borge & Spike Jones were & are hilarious & respected musicians. Especially among the serious musicians.
Milli Vanilli were 2 fake musicians who won a Grammy, there were real musicians behind them making the music but they were lip syncing their performance, it made other musicians mad. Being funny is not bad, that's not the point of Jim. I believe.
Man Chuck Taylor was in way better shape back then.
Im getting this feeling, after listening to this, Jim doesn't care much for this Chuck Taylor guy.
The Puddin’ Gang before they were the Puddin’ Gang
"The play wrestlers are at it again".
Accurate as ever, Jim.
It really does seem like they try to make their schtick look and feel like a Broadway play... a fucking comedy soap opera, if that makes sense.
Shameful.
There is so much irony in that whole comment but you may be too dense to see it
When i heard arrested development i lost it
I think Jim has a good mind for wrestling but he's somewhat stuck in his old ways sometimes. In regards to Joey Ryan and invisible hand grenades and things like that however he is spot on. It makes wrestling look stupid and childish. Its just fodder for people who don't like wrestling to point at and go "See? Wrestling is stupid, he flipped him with his dick and threw an invisible hand grenade."
No one in particular to be real those type of promos and matches would get over today so it's not being stuck in old ways, he knows how to get stuff over. Just look at the UFC wrestling was like that at one point so I know the old stuff could still work
Normal people cringe watching mainstream wrestling like wwe cause of the rise of real physical combat like UFC . It doesn't make sense that you punch a guy 20 times in the face and he doesn't get knocked out... These guys aren't taking it seriously so when regular people watch this they're gonna see something fun happening .
...and what red-blooded American make does NOT want to see a man putting his hand in another man's pants, feeling his penis? What red-blooded American male does NOT dream of being able to find a Tootsie Roll in another man's ass?? How can you not see the GREAT technical skill involved in performing rectal exams??? People need to quit being so heterosexual!!!!!! As a red-blooded American male, I love watching men fondle one another's penis!!!!!!! How can you NOT enjoy the wholly American sport of ass-feeling?? IT makes me want to stand up and salute the flag when I see men putting their fingers in another man's ass!!!!!! God BLESS America!!!!!!!!!!! This is what wrestling SHOULD be!!!!!!!!! More penis action!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want to see a grown man take his dick out and clothesline another man with it, or a turnbucke spot when his penis punches another man in the face 20 times!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT's what wrestling has always been!!!! Nice, big, manly, burly, oily men touching other men's penis!!!!!!!!
@Nate Amstutz
What's the matter, Natalie? Are you one of those guys that gets really excited seeing a man fondle another man? I bet it makes you rock hard, all 1/4" of you! Bet you're President of the Joey Ryan Fan Club, scouring the Internet every day for pictures of men feeling up other guys?
The weirdest thing is that the PWG World Champions are pretty much a who's who of modern wrestling. AJ Styles, Bryan Danielson, Kevin Steen, Sami Zayn, WALTER, Cesaro, Adam Pearce, Chris Hero, Kazarian, Zack Sabre Jr, Adam Cole and Ricochet are among the titleholders, I recognized all but three of the 24 champions. The alumni include CM Punk, Samoa Joe, Drew McIntye, Seth Rollins, Christopher Daniels, Pac, London and Kendrick, MCMG, Austin Aries, Matt Sydal, The Briscoes, Brian Cage, Cedric Alexander, Eddie Kingston, Gargano, Ciampa, Karl Anderson, Low Ki, Petey Williams, Jamie Noble, Akira Tozawa, Will Ospreay, Homicide, Delirious, etc. - who the hell wasn't in PWG?
Jim was being over dramatic about one comedic spot. These things don't define the genuine talent the wrestlers are capable of. It's just them experimenting and having fun!
As bad as this sounds was it really any worse than the Finger Poke of Doom?
Sadly, a lot of these guys did end up in a Major promotion in AEW
Major?
@@jordandennis6794 Yes, major.
@Cosmic Radio Yes they are. TNT. They trend number one in the US every Wednesday. If you say otherwise, you are a fool.
They’re the second biggest company in the US with national tv exposure. Yes, it feels like a mud show Indy promotion a lot but it’s backed by a billionaire and is pretty much available to everyone in the country
Joey Ryan v Minoru Suzuki
I wanna see this unfold
Spoiler alert: Joey Ryan gets castrated
9 months later: Joey Ryan gets castrated again
If not for the pandemic, we would have seen Suzuki vs Pockets.
@@jamirimaj6880 Hell yes.
@@jamirimaj6880 Better yet, Jelly Nutella vs Minoru Suzuki.
@@justinhillenburg9286 The best one though: Marko Stunt vs Minoru Suzuki
I wonder if they had fake grenade noises to atleast sell it more 🤣🤣
But they're not the Milli Vanilli of wrestling... they're more like the Weird Al of wrestling. Talented performers who would rather be played for laughs then taken seriously. If that's not your cup of tea I understand. But your criticisms are a bit inaccurate
Well, I guess some people like Comedy Central wrestling. Some people HATE WRESTLING
Vince Fox it's an old spot. It was bullshit. Nobody in the match ever looked like they were trying to win. Just like the slo-mo and cockgrab line in pwg.
Don't disrespect Weird Al, man. He is very talented and respects the business. Most musicians respect him.
Stan McSerr I didn't though. I love Weird Al.
Because pro wrestling has historically always been about rectal exams and penis grabbing!!!!!! IT's fun to touch other men!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can see why you enjoy it so much. You can't wait to watch men put their hands down each other's pants! Does that excite you?
Ciampa is one of the best wrestlers in the world today now lol
Lol don't tell Jim about Ciampa leading the thumb butt train.
Where indie wrestlers make a mockery out of Pro Wrestling.
When they should have been the saving grace of pro wrestling.
It's pro wrestling, it's not real nor should it be taken seriously. It's entertainment with the central theme being play fighting.
@@coreyhardwick4660 So no movies should be taken seriously by your logic, right?
@@coreyhardwick4660 F you, wrestling used to be great now theses scum are ruining it . F them AND F THE PEOPLE THAT LIKE IT LIKE YOU. SCUM. F YOU YOU C**T
Jim was shooting hard on this poor 7th Grader.
Dusty was probably turning over in his grave when Cody did that spot
But look where Cody is at now. It turned out well in the end
I HATE the way the CHIKARA trained guys like Chuck Taylor and orange Cassidy hit the ropes... they hit it with their backs flat and their free hand bracing the middle rope instead of under the armpit w/the side of their bodies bouncing off the rope . It looks ridiculous and bush league
Let Taylor in the day try this with BRUISER BRODY huss huss 2😡
If he's smart, he'd hold an invisible knife.
One of the very first matches I ever saw as a 6yr old kid was Kennel From Hell, i thought it was the coolest thing I'd ever seen. I accepted this business was a circus a long time ago, take it for what it is. Laugh at the bullshit, embrace the wrestlecrap.
I sent him a link on twitter worse than this one. Im glad he didn't watch it, but man would I love to hear his rant on it.
fmdof sadly whether you two like it or not, it obviously has a place in wrestling if people are paying to see it. don't like it? don't watch it. tough shit.
Cory Goodman you are unbelievably fucking stupid.
+trahapace150 He has a point. I hate the WWE style of wrestling as much as comedy and death match wrestling, but I won't shit on it. Different strokes...
lmao...the 40 people in the audience? Half are in the building for free? Those paying customers?
Was it the human centipede spot?
poor Soldier Ant was WIA ( Wounded in Action) by jumping on the invisible grenade to save the other Ants
Guess what he had in his hand...
So what does Cornette think about this?..🤔..👍/👎...
Bullshit in wrestling gets me pissed off
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Cornette one of the people that say "if you want serious wrestling, go watch MMA"? Tis true, and makes this segment just an exercise in getting angry for the sake of being angry.
This is why I love you, Mr. Cornette. You know what pro wrestling is and should be. I've been a fan of yours for decades and I'll always be a fan of yours. Preach on Corn-Dog. 😊
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Man UA-cam’s got some serious problems. How many comments that say show reply aren’t going to be there?
Yeah but then he'll give it all away because everyone will be"What Is Cornette Doing Here"lol
Who pissed in his cereal
Do you think Stone Cold would do this shit, fuck no. Thats why we will NEVER have another star in wrestling again.
Michael Miller
.....Austin never sprayed anyone with milk that was Angle.
John Cena is a star in wrestling, love him or hate him.
Michael Miller you're mentioning segments where the rules of engagement are a bit different. He would never try to do anything remotely ludicrous within an actual wrestling match which is the problem addressed in the video. He might try some mild HA-HA but he'd mostly want to keep it serious within the '20-by-20' as he calls it.
People who comment "Jim is stuck in the old ways" consistently miss the point of his statement.
I’m always saying that to his haters
This younger generation of fans act like any criticism is hate. If you don't wanna listen to a man whose family has been involved in the business since the early 1900's then you don't need to be in the business.
They're so ignorant to why they have these kinds of spots in the first place, it all started with some fuck adding bullshit to classic entertaining wrestling. Then they get mad when nobody appreciates it and tells them that they're retarded turds for appreciating it.
They absolutely don't though lmao
sammmm87 Orange Cassidy is over the same way The Godfather and Val Venis were over as comedy midcarders but that’s about it.
Let me get this straight. Wrestlers today need to hold themselves to the standards held in the territory days so they can work in the territories that all went out of business before they were even born?
resop3 you are really reaching there.
Dude, Cornette comes from a time where 400 people would be considered a dead town. So when a company like PWG, that appears to have some sort of money behind it based on the talent they consistently use, are doing backflips and cartwheels over drawing 400 people once a month it stands to reason that JC would point out how to draw money.
However, that time is not this time. There are zero territories running today. Also, why pick on Chuck Taylor? He is not a promoter. Chuck is a professional and would not have done the grenade spot unless the promoter thought it was appropriate. IIRC he didn't do it in Evolve.
Now, on the other hand, if Cornette really wants to have a stroke over Chuck Taylor, he should watch "The Gentleman's Club" youtube videos.
resop3 I can't find it
Do a UA-cam search on "the gentlemens club chuck taylor"
You mean standards like being able to draw thousands of people to arenas each week in more than just one promotion?
oh yes and dont forget wcw did chamber of horrors and robocop
This is the epitome of taking things wayyyyyyyy to seriously
Nah. It's calling it what it is: stupid.
Some simpletons enjoy and watch anything, it was stupid and it shames the industry
Andrew Hall nah it's just someone who has a passion for something that people just don't care about anymore
It's called trying to NOT prove wrestling is homosexual. If you enjoy putting your hand down another man's pants, please do not venture out of the gay bar!! Have you always enjoyed feeling up another man's ass, or did you just recently get into that?
Jim Cornette is now the Abe Simpson of pro wrestling. It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it.
@MemphoWrasslin1 he's retired, too and exposed as a rather negligent father to Homer.
'I hate your grandchildren!'
I just got it that was 2015, I thought it was this months, ohhh shit
To all the idiots defending this crap by saying "Jim hates fun" just imagine you're watching WWE or AEW or whatever and there's a big match at a PPV between Cody Rhodes and Roman Reigns for example and out of nowhere Cody throws an invisible grenade at Roman.
Would you be happy with that? Would that be fun?
No of course not, the crowd would boo their asses out of the building.
No shii!!
Don't always agree with jim but i hate when they do the imaginary spots like the grenade or whole matches with and invisible men
even disco isnt this embarrassing
...but not disco inferno
Cornette is solid gold.💯
It's like the doll matches. Anyone with sense in the comments calling it out for being the absolute trash that it is "hates fun".
If you're watching a video of something like that on UA-cam, I could maybe understand being mildly amused for a second at just the visual of it, but actually paying to see it?
People actually pay their hard earned money to watch a guy do a match with a doll? If I went to a wrestling show and saw that, I'd want my fucking money back
Because god forbid anybody have any fun anymore.
idk, this shit sounds hilarious to me. I mean, blocking a stooge's eye poke and catching the hand and throwing it into another wrestler's eyes who just ran in sounds genius to me
So you have the humor of a 12 year old?
Time and a place for it dude. If it was built up by someone like Santino Marella who isn’t meant to be a bad ass or taken seriously. Don’t just drop it out in the middle of the show and present it as a shoot.
Cornette is stuck in '75. I literally think if you told him Santa didn't exist, he'd actually argue with you over it. I'm suprised he knows what the internet is and what the fuk a podcast is because he sounds like someone who doesn't believe either exists and its just some conspiracy invention, conjured up by the government. Dude doesn't get it, Taylor is just plain entertaining that's all we care about...
To counter his point about Milli Vanilli. Look at the Rock when he first came out. The fans did not give 2 shits whether Rocky Maivia was a good tactical wrestler who knew the moves, his character was boring and he fizzled out quickly.
All of the sudden the Rock is born, more charismatic in the ring, talks smack, he's engaging with the crowd, shows some theatrics on top of being a decent wrestler. Was he the best from an in the ring technical standpoint?? I'm sure many would say no and who gives a fuck, I'm not gonna act like I can tell. No one tuned into the Rock for that. It was what he brought to ring as an entertainer..
I will agree with him that if Taylor doesn't have a ton of moves you'd wonder how long he would last. But he has the hardest part down, he's entertaining in the ring. You can have all kinds of talented wrestlers out there, if they are boring character wise who gives a shit if technically they are sound?
Whats harder to teach, how to technically wrestle or how to be an engaging character whose entertaining??
You can teach the wrestling, you can't teach entertaining, you either have it or you dont..
Yes I'm talking about Milli Vanilli with coherent recollection.. That makes me young. SMH..
I don't need YOU to tell me what is entertaining and what is not... Fans can be entertained by whatever the fuk they want to. If you feel a technical wrestling match is your thing so be it.. Bret Hart was one the best at it. And guess what happened when he was the babyface of the WWE??? Its not a knock on Bret, its a reflection on some fans.. I'm sure since you know your history I don't need too..