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Bow Grip: Tight or Loose? | Archery
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- How tightly should you grip the bow? We compare both modern/Western archery and Asiatic/Eastern traditional archery perspectives, and why context and purpose needs to be understood.
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I always remember being told to have a loose grip and let drawing the bow back tighten your grip for you
That will activate the grip refleks. But it choke up on the pivot point rather than the pressure point
Well explained! Happy to learn new things :) loved the “more purple” comment
Great explanation, as always mate!
Also accidentally dropping the bow in a combat situation could potentially be fatal to the archer, speaking of the tight grip.
the gun analogy was perfect, really clicked with me :)
For the traditional bow and historical point of view, losing your bow in a combat situation is the last thing you want, it means will either be running or dead
"bigger, heavier more purple" maybe someone needs to read the script for eggplant emoji's
often the main point is the shape of the handle gives you a clue of how to hold it, the olympic recurse handle for an example is shaped the way it is, just becourse you should be able to use the light grip.
I call bs on that, you dont need the pivot point at all, the angel and with are so wrong, there is 3 grip posissions and archers are customising there grip all the time snd the fact that compound and recurve uses the same principle, yet the grip are diffrent.. Bs
I prefer a tight grip on my longbow, but whatever floats your boat - I'd say there is no right or wrong, at least if you are happy and can shoot consistent. One guy said to me - "If it ain't broken don't fix it."
Handshock is a wounder full thing 😅
@@mortenjacobsen5673 If you have one, I don't.
Different bows with different purposes with different designs hence different methods! This isn't about what floats whose boat. I would be scolding one guy with tight grip on an Olympic recurve while reacting the same to another guy with loose grip on a long or trad bow.
Yeah I only shoot a 30lb recurve but I feel my grip is simply medium. I don't grip tight but it's not particularly loose either
-It's bigger... heavier... more purple.
-That's what she said.
great video! just one thing: you seem to put "modern/Western archery" in the same category and say they are similar in that they both use a light grip, but that's not really accurate, it doesn't really make sense to put them in the same category. Same as historical asiatic archery, historical western archery also uses tight grips. If you look at historical western archery, the most popular/relevant type there is English warbow archery, and a strong grip is the way to go there. Look at some videos from Joe Gibbs to see how strongly he grips the bow. A strong grip is absolutely needed to keep a 160# bow steady in the hand on release.
with high poundage unstable or extreme recurve and small siyah bow like a turkish or korean bow, I like to keep a firm but not too tight grip, the khatra or follow through just lets the bow self correct its shot, it just flows, the bow itself teaches you what to do, the physiology also plays a factor, I have a small frame which makes people in the range surprised when I use warbows, the bow just teaches you what grip to use, release and anchor point, my peak limit 115# hybrid korean bow taught me to use my hips and stretch my frame when I shoot, kudos to olympic archers though for using medium poundage relaxed grip who consistently group at 70+ meters, the best I can get a cm grouping with my warbow is at 10-30ms, so all styles are the best in what they do.
Newton tells us its imposible for the bow to do anything but distribute energi
@@mortenjacobsen5673 yeah and the leftover energy in the bow will cause vibration and hand shock, Khatra is really just a smooth follow through that dissipates that energy into a smooth, predictable and productive manner.
@@mortenjacobsen5673 undeniably so
@@jake4194 specially glass bows, the hand shock makes me assume an exaggerated khatra like in kyudo
@@jake4194 not if you force it like many do
I've found results of shooting with no grip using a sling to be indistinguishable from shooting with a light grip. Often alternate between them now because removing and replacing the sling every end annoys me 😅
good explanation
Thanks for all your archery videos! Can you share your thoughts/ experiences on group shifting? I'm pretty confident about my anchor point, but sometimes my groups will be shifted up or down (left-right happening less so) without getting wider (shooting 45 pounds, size of a palm at 22m), so I assume it's not me getting worn out physically and shooting looser.
My best guess right now is how my tab is engaged with the arrow, since it can slide vertically along the string a small amount. What I do now is to make sure my index tab leather touches the arrow nock when I draw.
I would like to know: 1. if there should be gap between the nock and tab, if so then why does nobody talk about managing it consistently 2. what other reasons could cause my groups to shift
Appreciate any thoughts or comments!
Well made
A very interesting video.
I'll have to adjust as well soon, having learned to shoot with longbows not too long ago, currently shooting 73-75# on a hill style bow and now my friend gave me a HOYT gamemaster 2 which, according to the bow shops draw weight scales has about 46# at 28" and switching from basically a stick to what seems like futuristic wizardry to me feels more than a little weird...
I won't abandon my beloved monster stick but I think the gamemaster could make a fine bow for really rainy days or when I'm not feeling like drawing that heavily all day...
Anyone has any tips to get used to it? I'll get to my friendly local shop to get fitting arrows etc as well...
What is the name of the purple bow, it looks fantastic and beautiful
Hallo sensei.. how about Barebow, don't you want to try it?
You need to move your club to south east qld, bro, so I can join!!
Wait a sec... were you shooting in the middle of your local footy oval? Can you do that?
Great contents as always! I wonder if you have ever heard of Kaya Archery from Korea and reviewed any of their hydrid traditional bows. I caught glimpse of one and now it has to be my next bow. I mean ordering from Vietnam to Korea should be easy, right?!!! :D
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Newtons 1st law vs 3rd, energi vs teknuiqe, science vs cultural relegionous... So hard to get a grip on this 🤣
hello sensei, just want to ask ur opinion . is it still okay or worth it to buy a used inno cxt riser?
Sure, the riser is just as good as it was, and is still popular brand new.
@@NUSensei thank you so much sensai. More power, so much knowledge from your channel
I respect Olympics archers but it's a bit removed from most practical archery. If you're hunting you don't want your bow to fall forward after the shot as it might spook your prey. If you're in a combat situation you want to be able to draw again quickly.
If you're doing archery for practical purposes, don't use methods that were only adopted for sport.
@@NUSensei well there is obviously some cross application but this applies to a lot of Olympic sports. Many started out as demonstration of practical skills but have gradually become more and more far removed. The opposite is also true for some sports like skeet shooting where things have stagnated and you have a large field of perfect scores by men all the way into their 40s or sometimes older.
I guess if you have a loose grip on horseback, you're gonna have some problems :D