Western Pacific Diesel Tenders

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  • @genesisrailfan1507
    @genesisrailfan1507 2 місяці тому +72

    Finally, a video focusing on actual tenders for diesels

  • @InventorZahran
    @InventorZahran 2 місяці тому +56

    I was expecting these diesel tenders to be just extra fuel carriers, but the actual answer was much more interesting!

  • @TheSudrianTerrier653
    @TheSudrianTerrier653 2 місяці тому +31

    “Never before had they been used to assist diesel engines”
    British Diesel Brake Tenders:

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam 2 місяці тому +11

      Our diesel brake tenders were a different thing though. A purpose made box filled with scrap metal to aid braking on heavy freight trains. After several runaways they realised the light diesels could not stop the same weight of our wagons with no brakes as a steam locomotive could. Rather than running shorter trains until wagons with brakes were built they built the brake tenders which increased the diesels brake power to that of a steam locomotive. A replica one now lives on Great Central Railway

  • @Organizedhate
    @Organizedhate Місяць тому +9

    First we had electric steam locomotives now we have diesel tenders

  • @lawnmowermanTX
    @lawnmowermanTX 2 місяці тому +21

    I love it!! Diesel Tenders are coool AF!!! Don’t waste good equipment! Some Tenders might be useful for diesel fuel, oil, and air brake booster.

  • @maxnash8450
    @maxnash8450 2 місяці тому +22

    I love the WP! Though one small detail for 1:09, the Sacramento Northern did go to Oakland, and eventually into San Francisco in 1939, but thats minor. Great video, I'm impressed someone actually knows about the 171 class.

  • @StocktonSubber
    @StocktonSubber 2 місяці тому +26

    This is a certified Western Pacific moment
    (Also hi yes I voiced the railfan tee hee)

  • @mattsmocs3281
    @mattsmocs3281 2 місяці тому +23

    Lackawanna diesel tenders next

    • @mattsmocs3281
      @mattsmocs3281 2 місяці тому +7

      They were cause the lackawanna liked Drawbar'ed F's, so draw bar covers.

  • @wondabiz
    @wondabiz 2 місяці тому +15

    the WP is one of my favorite railroads because it’s 1st Sub ran through my home town, and the SN ran through the city I live in now. Most railfans learn a lot about the SP and ATSF since they had the biggest presence in the Bay Area but I favor the WP because of its interesting history

    • @FlorentinoRebuildingCo.5644
      @FlorentinoRebuildingCo.5644 2 місяці тому +3

      Charles Smiley videos got me hooked on the WP.
      Love the WP.
      Tenders? Love the WP even more now.

  • @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
    @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Місяць тому +2

    The Northern Pacific modified several baggage cars(!) to carry extra water for F-units in passenger service also.

  • @PyeongTeug
    @PyeongTeug 2 місяці тому +7

    really enjoyed the play at the beginning lol, amazing works!

  • @jade-a7990
    @jade-a7990 2 місяці тому +10

    oh western pacific, what a work

  • @Lucius_Chiaraviglio
    @Lucius_Chiaraviglio 2 місяці тому +6

    According to Wikipedia, the Florida East Coast Railroad uses liquified natural gas tender on their diesels (1 tender between each pair of diesels), and they run on a mix of diesel and natural gas.

    • @asteroidrules
      @asteroidrules 2 місяці тому +4

      The Union Pacific turbines also had tenders for their fuel, either liquid natural gas, pressurized propane, or bunker fuel oil.
      On the flip-side, as tenders have gotten rarer, some roads that need water tanks for diesel engines or auxiliary tenders for their remaining steamers have resorted to converting tank cars to the task, which is why nowadays you sometimes see a tank car behind the locomotive of a passenger train.

    • @Lucius_Chiaraviglio
      @Lucius_Chiaraviglio 2 місяці тому +3

      @@asteroidrules I haven't heard of the Union Pacific gas turbine locomotives using liquified natural gas, although one was temporarily converted to use propane, which worked, but was considered to be too much of a headache to transport. Also, Union Pacific cobbled together a gas turbine electric locomotive using pulverized coal, but unlike those using oil (or temporarily propane), it was a failure -- blade erosion (already a problem with the heavy fuel oil0 was too fast, and making sure that the coal finely powdered was too much of a headache.

    • @asteroidrules
      @asteroidrules 2 місяці тому +4

      @Lucius_Chiaraviglio I stand corrected then, I thought they had experimented with either natural or coal gas in one of the turbines but now that I look I don't see any indication of that having actually been attempted.

    • @Lucius_Chiaraviglio
      @Lucius_Chiaraviglio 2 місяці тому +4

      @@asteroidrules Those would be logical things to try, but I never heard of them doing so. The Florida East Coast Railroad is the first railroad I know of to use liquified natural gas on a regular basis, although I could have sworn to having read that somebody experimented with it earlier (Burlington Northern or BNSF?).

    • @asteroidrules
      @asteroidrules 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Lucius_Chiaraviglio Yeah it looks like BN experimented with an LNG locomotive but shelved it until BNSF brought it back, their design also used a fuel tender for the LNG made from a modified tank car. More recently BNSF has also been testing liquid hydrogen fuel.

  • @Bratsbergbanen1
    @Bratsbergbanen1 2 місяці тому +9

    How interesting! Never heard of this before. Well done!

  • @datprawn4850
    @datprawn4850 2 місяці тому +7

    The only tenders the UK Diesels had was the Break Tender before Diesels got heavier.

  • @WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
    @WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 2 місяці тому +12

    mom come pick me up i'm scared

  • @johndonlon1611
    @johndonlon1611 2 місяці тому +6

    Thanks for a very interestng video.

  • @MarkPeters-p8e
    @MarkPeters-p8e 2 місяці тому +4

    Nice video thanks for informing me I didn’t know that they used steam tenders👍

  • @adriaanboogaard8571
    @adriaanboogaard8571 2 місяці тому +4

    Interesting video. They are probably another reason water stops and their communities are literally dried up and disappear. The railway funded building and maintaining the water supply and stops. If a place like a small town couldn't take that over, it was not water and no place, and nothing survives without it. I still know some small desert towns that use railway built water systems. Nolonger for steam trains but the communities supply.

  • @TrainBandit
    @TrainBandit 2 місяці тому +10

    Lol i loved it! If you didn't show us pictures of this i wouldn't have believed you 😂😂😂

  • @michaelnaisbitt7926
    @michaelnaisbitt7926 2 місяці тому +3

    In my country it was common to permanently couple two oil fuel tenders from steamers and use them for oil fuel tankers or water tenders these were used for years after steam locomotives were withdrawn

    • @Pensyfan19
      @Pensyfan19  2 місяці тому +1

      What country (or counties) was this done in, out of curiosity?

  • @roberthuron9160
    @roberthuron9160 2 місяці тому +8

    Don't forget the ex-NYO&W F's that the WP picked up after the Old Woman was abandoned! They pulled stints on passenger service,and there were also units assigned to the Sacramento Northern! Another side light,on some now,unknown engines! Thank you! Thank you 😇 😊!

    • @OceanViewLocomotiveMachineCo
      @OceanViewLocomotiveMachineCo 2 місяці тому +3

      The NYOW F3s also used tenders for steam generator support. There's a picture or two in the Joeseph Heller NYOW book.

  • @pauloconnor2980
    @pauloconnor2980 Місяць тому +2

    A tender would make an ideal match wagon for a train!

  • @FlorentinoRebuildingCo.5644
    @FlorentinoRebuildingCo.5644 2 місяці тому +6

    EXCELLENT video.
    I'm subscribing to your channel.

  • @WestPac-ny9vi
    @WestPac-ny9vi 2 місяці тому +3

    As a WP Fan I never knew of this, also the CP Geep had the Barrel style head light like WP, never knew that either.

  • @banksrail
    @banksrail 2 місяці тому +7

    Love the skits 👌🏾

  • @pennsylvania_steam7093
    @pennsylvania_steam7093 2 місяці тому +2

    Where was the information about this?

    • @Pensyfan19
      @Pensyfan19  2 місяці тому

      Mostly on WPLives.com, which is listed in the video description.

  • @TheBengineer-x7k
    @TheBengineer-x7k 2 місяці тому +2

    Question is that guy in the beginning Amtrak guy 365

    • @Pensyfan19
      @Pensyfan19  2 місяці тому +1

      The two people who offered voice lines were Cowl Unit Productions and Stockton Subbber, respectively.

  • @trainglen22
    @trainglen22 2 місяці тому +3

    Interesting video,

  • @Keith-nm3uf
    @Keith-nm3uf 2 місяці тому +1

    Rio grand had a b unit converted to a steam heater car.

  • @thomasdeturk5142
    @thomasdeturk5142 2 місяці тому +4

    Slugs should be for Diesel Locomotives just like a Tender for a Steam Locomotive.

    • @kenrickman6697
      @kenrickman6697 2 місяці тому +1

      How so? Other than one being behind the other, they do completely different jobs. It’s like calling a tank car a caboose just because it gets pulled by a locomotive and is sometimes on the rear of a train.

  • @WasatchGarandMan
    @WasatchGarandMan 2 місяці тому +3

    Huh, what a weird thing. A good friend if mine was a big fan of the WP. Mentioned something about a diesel aux tender once but I didnt have any idea what he meant. Shows what I know. Also, this same man was on the SP Passenger train that got stuck over Donner Pass. Something about that incident that always stuck out was the fact he said a WP 2-8-8-2 as sent to assist the SP getting the train out. Never have seen anything to support this, but my friend Dan wasnt a passing railfan he was a dedicated WP Foamer. He knew what he saw over Donner

  • @erie910
    @erie910 2 місяці тому +5

    Nice video, but it would be helpful were you to speak a bit slower.

  • @ericjames6865
    @ericjames6865 2 місяці тому +2

    What other info do you have on Canadian pacific using one??

    • @Pensyfan19
      @Pensyfan19  2 місяці тому

      The source where I got the photo from (Old Time Trains) doesn't specify any further about the use of the tender, which makes me suspicious as to whether the tender was just being moved instead of powering something for the diesel.

    • @ericjames6865
      @ericjames6865 2 місяці тому +1

      @ ahhh okay. I have a feeling that’s likely what was happening. Cp did use steam tenders in water service for work trains.

  • @Robert-g2i
    @Robert-g2i 2 місяці тому +3

    IF it ran on oil then it's not a diesel and also why would a diesel locomotive need a tender when it has it's own fuel tank underneath and also there are stations along the line in various towns and cities for the locomotive to refuel.

    • @ks_1111
      @ks_1111 2 місяці тому +1

      Diesel is a FUEL OIL.

  • @Benthetrainkid
    @Benthetrainkid 2 місяці тому +3

    Looks like something you'd see in those bootleg Chuggington train sets

    • @Jeisr4207-bc5ui
      @Jeisr4207-bc5ui 2 місяці тому +1

      There’s bootleg Chuggington merch?

    • @Benthetrainkid
      @Benthetrainkid 2 місяці тому

      @Jeisr4207-bc5ui Yes, if you've seen Leokimvideo's knockoff toy videos (at one point he found one of Chuggington in the form of a roller coaster style train set

    • @InventorZahran
      @InventorZahran 2 місяці тому +2

      Isn't Chuggington's entire existence a bootleg of Thomas & Friends?

    • @Benthetrainkid
      @Benthetrainkid 2 місяці тому +1

      @@InventorZahran Uh, no. Just because Chuggington is a kids show involving talking trains, it doesn't mean it's a "TTTE knockoff".

    • @Jeisr4207-bc5ui
      @Jeisr4207-bc5ui 2 місяці тому

      @@InventorZahran Going by your logic, the cars franchise is a TTTE knockoff because it focuses on talking vehicles

  • @boydwalker161
    @boydwalker161 2 місяці тому +1

    I didn’t know that a diesel locomotive could have a tender behind.

  • @vincentsaunders4773
    @vincentsaunders4773 2 місяці тому +1

    Wonder why they just didn't use tank cars?

  • @kohkiLightning
    @kohkiLightning 2 місяці тому +1

    diesel with steam locomotive's tender?!

  • @natehill8069
    @natehill8069 Місяць тому +2

    That just looks weird.

  • @ShadowtheTankEngine
    @ShadowtheTankEngine 2 місяці тому +2

    I'm just gonna say at the top of my fuckin lungs. What.....THE...FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! (VOICE ECHOING EVERYWHERE)

  • @nathanchan4653
    @nathanchan4653 2 місяці тому +1

    British Railways: Use brake tenders
    Western Pacific in America: Reuse steam locomotive tenders for water carriers
    Other railways: Use tank wagons as water tenders

  • @Hammerandhearth
    @Hammerandhearth 2 місяці тому +9

    Everyone knows that tenders are a mark of distinction for an engine.

  • @johnks6733
    @johnks6733 Місяць тому +1

    When I saw the title, I thought they would be steam loco tenders with diesel motors for extra traction
    How wrong was I?

  • @buccaneerrailfanning1776
    @buccaneerrailfanning1776 2 місяці тому +2

    And with the hydrogen electric locomotives... TENDERS ARE SO BACK!

  • @ThatOneCometProductions
    @ThatOneCometProductions 2 місяці тому +6

    what the hell-

  • @gabrielchiodo285
    @gabrielchiodo285 2 місяці тому +5

    All the train museums that I've been to I have never heard or seen a diesel tender.

  • @TM-bk3ok
    @TM-bk3ok 2 місяці тому +8

    Yea… they deserved the merger…

    • @thomasboese3793
      @thomasboese3793 2 місяці тому +4

      Unlike the C&NW, the WP was able to 'keep' its last name.

  • @offtherails77
    @offtherails77 2 місяці тому +1

    the think the union pacific ones look best in my opinion. The western pacific ones look like a cartoon depiction of a locomotive 😂

  • @lawnmowermanTX
    @lawnmowermanTX 2 місяці тому +2

    I wish Texas had a Texas Pacific Railroad like Western Pacific

    • @DENVERRIOGRANDEMAN21
      @DENVERRIOGRANDEMAN21 2 місяці тому +1

      You mean the Texas and pacific

    • @lawnmowermanTX
      @lawnmowermanTX 2 місяці тому +1

      @ I was making it up. Would be nice if Texas railroads learned innovation and technology from Western Pacific. I coined “Texas Pacific”. Central Texas, used to have 120-200 miles of track and by 1941 just a few months before WW-2 broke, the old Cotton Belt lost track from Stephenville to Gatesville TX They didn’t know how to improve their business savvy.

  • @FishKepr
    @FishKepr 2 місяці тому +5

    This is what you would get if a diesel wanted to identify as a steam engine.

  • @hunterwolfscar2287
    @hunterwolfscar2287 2 місяці тому +2

    Why Would Diesel Use Tender Engines for Man!?
    Wow.

  • @ЛЬВИНИ
    @ЛЬВИНИ 2 місяці тому +1

    Good video, like ...

  • @ICUNA22
    @ICUNA22 2 місяці тому +2

    Mopac boxcar!! 2:30

  • @ICUNA22
    @ICUNA22 2 місяці тому +2

    Mopac caboose!! 1:45

  • @AntoniosUniverse.
    @AntoniosUniverse. 2 місяці тому +1

    Diesel would have words

    • @InventorZahran
      @InventorZahran 2 місяці тому +1

      Tender engines don't shunt! It's not dignified!

  • @Kira-vy7vc
    @Kira-vy7vc 2 місяці тому +2

    hey wait a minute.. I know that maple syrup voice anywhere..

  • @PRRFanDoesTrainz
    @PRRFanDoesTrainz 2 місяці тому +2

    4:15 nice Lehigh Valley Railroad photo lol

  • @amtrakproductions-mx9ib
    @amtrakproductions-mx9ib 2 місяці тому +2

    Bro is acting like trainz

  • @mrslicer95
    @mrslicer95 2 місяці тому +2

    25k views in 1 day im impressed! (This is yeet on a alt

  • @TheIllinoisandOhiorailfan
    @TheIllinoisandOhiorailfan 23 дні тому +1

    Definitely some on from a lab probably made this

  • @AroyalOfficalYT
    @AroyalOfficalYT 2 місяці тому +2

    just put the elephant ears on lil bro 🙏

  • @Organizedhate
    @Organizedhate 2 місяці тому +1

    Cool

  • @infaredxkingz8786
    @infaredxkingz8786 2 місяці тому +3

    💀

  • @davidgardner863
    @davidgardner863 2 місяці тому +5

    The audio in this video is awful.

  • @TrainMedia00
    @TrainMedia00 2 місяці тому +2

    In my opinion a diesel locomotive with a steam locomotive tender looks out of place and I've post a tiktok video about b units and slugs can be used as a tender for diesels for more fuel and boost for freight trains getting heavier and route will take miles.

  • @HadenHartz
    @HadenHartz 2 місяці тому +4

    beginning of this video is cringe worthy. Here to learn some history not cringe.

  • @jasonlinhardt7811
    @jasonlinhardt7811 2 місяці тому +2

    Other than occupying physical space behind a lead locomotive, a tender and a B unit have nothing to do with each other. It’s a silly assertion.
    I understand you’re trying something different, but this ‘conversation’ bit is off the charts cringe. Otherwise interesting tho

  • @2quintly
    @2quintly 2 місяці тому +3

    Not an easy narration to follow. Clarity, . . . . questionable; demeanor of the narrator - annoying. Subject could have been more serious and thus more informative. Got the impression that this was aimed at high school audience.

    • @tcarney57
      @tcarney57 2 місяці тому +2

      For some reason, these phony made-up conversations (sometimes not between actual people but between institutions) are quite popular on You Tube and other video media these days. All of them are lame, juvenile, and sophomoric.

    • @lolingatU1539
      @lolingatU1539 2 місяці тому +2

      Not easy to follow? Did we watch the same video?

    • @Pensyfan19
      @Pensyfan19  2 місяці тому +1

      @2quintly @tcarney57 I understand your complaints, as my past four years of making history related videos on this channel have otherwise been more serious and to the point. However, I feel that after a while of trying the same tactics with decent to poor viewership results, I might as well consider ways to make my videos stand out and to make parts of them a bit more fun, and the record high viewership numbers with this video seem to indicate that I'm doing something right. I include these dialogues in order to oversimplify some of the key concepts behind these stories, but to your point, I will try to make them shorter and more serious toned depending on the topic in order to reach out to a wider audience, as a significant portion of my viewers are over the high school/college age according to youtube studio analytics.