How Taiwan vs China Will Go Down
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- Опубліковано 9 лис 2023
- How China vs Taiwan Will Go Down
It's one of the greatest geopolitical issues of modern history, the Taiwan Question. Today, we're going to see how a worst-case scenario may go down, if war finally breaks out between the two.
Several historical errors:
1. It's Qing(清) (pronounced Ching) Dynasty, not King Dynasty.
2. It was Ming Dynasty's war lord, who kicked out the Dutch. Then Qing Empire fought another war to unify Taiwan by defeating the son of this war lord.
3. After the first Sino-Japanese war, Taiwan was annexed by Japan until 1945 when Japan was defeated, to be reunified with mainland.
Taiwan was united with ROC in 1945 and ROC is not the mainland. RoC is Taiwan plus a few tiny islands along the Chinese coast.
@@jntiger1981ROC was mainland China from 1911 until 1949, when it lost the mainland to the communists and retreated to Taiwan, which was taken from Japan and given to ROC in 1945 by the Americans
@@jntiger1981go and check how the constitution of ROC defines its territory.
You are such a shameless villain! Deliberate slander and slander! Where is your conscience? People like you have no bottom line! You are as shameless as the blogger! Slander China? Will you make progress yourself? What is your purpose? You know best!
You are such a shameless villain! Deliberate slander and slander! Where is your conscience? People like you have no bottom line! You are as shameless as the blogger! Slander China? Will you make progress yourself? What is your purpose? You know best!
You make it sound like China "liberated" the Taiwanese from the Dutch colonizers. The Chinese themselves were colonizers, and their relationship with indigenous Taiwanese was exploitative and often violent.
Which country did China colonise?
@@ezekielkrawere9593Tibet.
bro the Chinese were not colonizers in any meaningful way. The way of life for people all over China during the great Qing was the same. Everyone was a peasant made to serve the empire but the empire itself was a puppet for the European colonial powers and it was them who set the way for Taiwan being a part of China. The Chinese didn't send expeditions to Taiwan to gather up free labor, the Chinese people there WERE the free labor along with indigenous population. Although Taiwan would geopolitically be a part of Qing, it was still essentially controlled by Dutch and Portuguese business. It was the KMT under Chiang Kai Sheik that conducted mass violence against the indigenous people, nearly wiping them out in the process.
Yeah, this video has an extremely far left bias. Turned it off at that point.
colonized is the wrong word because formosa was under-settled and under-used by Qing
You forgot to mention that many of the large, well-known companies that used to do their manufacturing in China have already moved out or are in the process of moving out their plants (and the jobs along with them) to friendlier and lower cost countries like India and Vietnam. The days of China as the world's factory is fast coming to an end.
Keep dreaming it suits you.
@@shadowslayer9988 Keep living in denial, it suits you.
Some have moved back to China, because it's got tech and still relatively cheaper. China has been the factory for so long to the point it's got experience.
Granted politically companies are looking to diversify so not all of their eggs are in one basket
@@ZDY66666 Which companies are returning to China?
Thats actually bad for taiwan in another way, with Taiwan companies nolonger in China, China has less reasons to worry about cross strait economic consequences when considering the invasion.
"Mainland still believes Taiwan is part of China"
Only a few decades ago, the reverse was ALSO true. Taiwan claimed all of China. So... kinda moot point
If they don’t say this, mainland China will see that as Taiwan accepting reunification
BTW, there are only 13 beaches on Taiwan island suitable for amphibious landings.
And Taiwanese have had only 74 years to fortify those beaches...
You are such a shameless villain! Deliberate slander and slander! Where is your conscience? People like you have no bottom line! You are as shameless as the blogger! Slander China? Will you make progress yourself? What is your purpose? You know best!
Exactly. For the Allies to successfully take beaches on Normandy, it required massive misdirection campaign, boatloads of luck, a distracted and spread thin Germany (though they were still experienced, battle hardened and formidable). Then it required literally THE LARGEST WAR FLOTILLA EVER ASSEMBLED. Like size of Greeks heading to Troy but instead of ships with 50 to 100 men, it was WWII destroyers cruisers and heavy personnel carriers.
That flotilla was compiled from THE most powerful nation on Earth and several of its powerful, experienced, battle-hardened close allies that had virtually complete trust with one another.
Even with that kind of invasion force, even with many different potential landing sights for Germany to defend, it still took an inhuman effort for our boys to establish a beachhead and knock out nearby coastal defenses.
China is like a kung fu black belt that has never been in a real fight.
"Pot don't hit back".
US is like a gaggle of Green Berets, backed by rangers, delta force, and a deep cover Seal Team 6, further backed by a division of crayon-eating marines.
Oh, we'l get a black eye. But that doesn't stop a Green Beret.
@@burtan2000 man you for sure made sure to hit all those buzz-words. They ain't just get a black eye when fighting so close to Chinese Mainland. Not only do they have the defenders advantage, but also the advantage of thin logistic lines for the us due to the extreme distance. Not even the turf of allied forces would bring enough to sway that disadvantage since it's too far for airplanes to regularly patrol and barely enough for some missiles.
While the video is good on history, it's quite naïve when it comes to diplomatic and military. For one, stock pile missiles against China? China can produce more drones and missiles than rest of the world combined, at a cheaper price too. When it comes to war of attrition, nothing will even come close. Also you are still imaging WWIII be fought in WWII style, carriers will be the battleships in WWII, and there won't be bloody Omaha beach as much as you want it. If it's really between US and China, you can kiss all satellites goodbye and there goes all the missiles because no more GPS.
lol wumao. Tangping!!
@@trentkenzler8478 Also this bright mind here just shows the education system has completely failed in the US. Do you really want to go to war with idiots like this guy on your side? lol
Russia had more missiles. And it thought its invasion would be over in three days.
@@Chou-seh-fu You might have confused missiles with nukes. Russia has more nukes, but not more missiles. Also where do you think Russia buy parts from to assemble their drones?
@@trentkenzler8478nafo bot🤡
That "in some areas, just '1.2 miles' of ocean... " would never be the dot line that you put across the Taiwan Strait. The closest distance you're talking about should be the one between Kinmen Island (ROC) and Jiaoyu Island (PRC), which is roughly 1.8 km, or 2.27 km (according to Google Earth).
Exactly!
Taiwan was not part of the ROC when it was first founded. Taiwan was a Japanese colony from 1895-1945. The ROC was founded in 1911.
Still part of the Chinese empire before that.
@@Zergcerebrates
Only a third of it.
@@Chou-seh-futhat’s bs
Taiwan was a part of Qing Empire, right?
Taiwan was taken by force by Japan from the Qing Dynasty in 1895. Japan agreed to give it back all territories it gained by force to China at the end of WWII
Taiwan was the a part of the Qing Dynasty since the 1600s
China's economy is starting to crumb and the unemployment rate has shoot through the roof.
Looking at reports, there has been less than a million laid off the past 2 years in China. So, many jobs are taken with many jobs still available, just not what the youth want to take. Oh well
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China's economy isn't crumbling, you are just exaggerating. Look at the data or keep yapping.
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You misstate the US's one China policy. The US recognizes the PRC as the sole government of China. But the US only acknowledges China's claim on Taiwan, not agreeing with the claim.
Pretty inaccurate, in very many ways. Particularly the history part. Qing didn’t kick out the Dutch, mandarin wasn’t the language spoken, etc. You might need better research. Perhaps also listen to how certain words are pronounced before doing it in public.
So many wrong pieces of information in this video…
Can't understand why there is so much fuss about Taiwan which is part of China? US should instead focus on handling its internal problems foremost the imminent bond crash....
"why there is so much fuss about Taiwan which is part of China?"
Probably because it's not part of China.
@@Chou-seh-fu If the US think so then it should have the guts to publicly declare Taiwan independence. Why beat around the bush? It should also get the United Nation to nullify should UNGA Resolution 2758. This will solve the problem once and for all rather than keep on harping on the same old issue? So boring...
@@Chou-seh-fulamo... white man declaring independence for others and dictating whos a cuntry and whos not and as well as who to separate from a cuntry.XD
@@eymeeraosaka2954 "If the US think so then it should have the guts to publicly declare Taiwan independence."
America can only declare it's own independence, not the independence of others.
(Of course, Taiwan maintains that it is already independent, so such a declaration is superflous.)
"It should also get the United Nation to nullify should UNGA Resolution 2758."
Its replacement with a "One China, One Taiwan" resolution will be entirely satisfactory.
@@HairLessBush "white man declaring independence for others"
No one's doing that.
People are merely observing that Taiwan meets all the requirements of an independent state, and is therefore, an independent state.
Well made video surprised it has so few views
How about the one China one Taiwan policy?
1:50 Can't. They've made up a fake name to mask their real name. The CCP. So now there are 3 Chinas.
Biggest question here is this: will US be willing to send their troops to die in a war so far away from home?
Just becasue China is number 2 does not mean that, the conflict being so close to their home, it will not inflict tremendous casualties to the US forces that try to intervene.
But my opinion is that the China is being patient, they will wait until US is either so weak or so tied up with something else that it cannot intervene if they wanted.
As for Japan, it will only wage war if attacked. Their constitution is forbidding them to wage any kind of offensive war.
But in the end, that war is very hard to happen because unlike Ukraine that war will see world hit with such economic recession that countries will be bankrupt and civil wars will rage everywhere.
The US can easily engage any attempted Chinese invasion from a distance without the need to deploy ground troops. Systems like US submarines, stealth fighters and rapid dragon would decimate Chinas invasion fleet. The US has bases all over the area and a highly capable air refueling fleet. Any beachhead made by China would be immediately outnumbered by Taiwanese ground forces and China would struggle to reinforce and supply there troops while being attacked by the US. Chinas military would be devastated attempting it.
So many things wrong with this video.
Starting by the history.
Taiwan became part of China during the dying days of the Ming Dynasty during the 1600s when the remnants of the Ming Dynasty escaped to the Island set up base against the newly established Manchus led Qing Dynasty from the Mainland.
The Qing Dynasty then invaded Taiwan and established its rule there in the mid to late 1600.
Japan attacked China and took Taiwan by force in 1895.
In 1945 Japan agreed to give Taiwan back to China in a treaty.
KMT lost the civil war in the Mainland and run away to Taiwan.
It claimed to be the legitimate government of all of China and Taiwan for decades.
Taiwan's own constitution states that Taiwan is a part of China.
If you called for Taiwan's independence up just a few decades ago you would be arrested and probably even killed by the government in Taiwan.
Taiwan's passports birth certificate, money, banks, universities all have the word China written them or the word China in their names.
Even Taiwan's military is named after China.
Taiwan's government used to represent the whole of China in the UN security council up until 1972.
Under Taiwan's own constitution all Chinese in the Mainland are a part of it the ROC and are under the jurisdiction of the ROC.
The claim that Taiwan is an independent country from Mainland is nonsense.
Taiwan will never be independent from China.
If China goes to war over Taiwan it will mobilize its entire industrial capacity into full scale war production to outmanufacture anyone in warships z drones, warplanes weapons and ammunition into oblivion.
China will mobilize tens of millions of men into the PLA.
And China will be backed by Russia's massive raw materials and natural resources.
Not even the United States together with all its allies will be able to stop that.
You will not be able to out manufacture China in weapons, and raise a bigger armed forces than China.
Taiwan is an island.
It can easily be blockaded and starved from fuel, supplies and food.
It is futile.
Furthermore if the US gets into a war with China over Taiwan and attacks Mainland China the Chinese have the capability to bomb the US and its major cities to rubble.
There is way for victory here.
Finally some with logic instead of highly prppagandised/false/ narativs and ultimate bias with pro western misinformation and s#it for brains.
west taiwan must be reclaimed
Reclaim the Mainland!
nah
that's KMT's idea for 6 decades, but DPP doesn't consider themselves as Chinese.
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuiscome. We waiting.
@@lvjinbin28forget the DPP, the KMT don’t even believe in retaking the mainland or UN seat nowadays. KMT today is complacent in an independent Taiwan while arguing the semantics and aura of being “Chinese”.
If KMT did any work towards retaking the mainland, or allowing communists to eliminate ROC, for all 6 decades it was in power, the DPP would have zero platform or influence, let alone existence.
A coalition of nations would come to Taiwan's aid. Both military and economic assistance would be abundantly supplied to Taiwan. The U.S., Japan, South Korea, Australia, United Kingdom, Canada, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, Singapore, India, Germany, France, etc., all would, in some way or another, support Taiwan in warding off the CCP. It would look bleak initially for Taiwan, but with due time, the tides would turn heavily toward Taiwan. As he said in the video, the Taiwanese wouldn't sit ideally by but would fight viciously against their aggressors. The Chinese mainland economy and military would be devastated, and the eventual collapse of the CCP would soon follow. The PRC knows this, so they will continue to poster and bluff, but I doubt they will ever take this risk. If they do, it won't end well for them.
From which fairly tail did you learn of this
@@016.kazinakibafjal2 from the one your mother has been teaching
philippines will not defend taiwan china invasion because taiwan illegally occuppy 2 island on spratly island in ezz of philippines ..edca in philippines center to defend philippine to invader not to support taiwan
@@016.kazinakibafjal2ouch, atleast you took it like a man........
The amount of copium and illogical childish anger form this comments is astounding. Lmao.. XD
No one can predict the future.
Lol.
China could blockade Taiwan ...but America could blockade China.
It's a stalemate.
China's best shot was the diplomatic takeover they were drawing close to BEFORE they went ham on Hong Kong and drove Taiwan away.
This guy's obviously not familiar AT ALL with what's been happening with China's economy the last 2 years or the quality of their military, but then he also calls the Qing dynasty the "King", so that's what you're dealing with here.
China's economy is in far better shape than people try to believe. It's deliberately restructuring away from real estate. How can people genuinely not see that? Just goes to show the Internet hasn't improved knowledge of the general population.
Qing is pronounced Ching not King
this is what I call Amerihistory. state wrong things and claim “it’s just how chinese history is”
@@sinoroman And Chinese never mispronounce words? Never, ever, ever?
This a good video, hitting important points.
Also, what an uplifting message to end on
Shame on you for padding your video with watered down history from Jr. High.
Do you realize that the US also has a lot of ships circling China at all times? They are literally everywhere near China. That's why there are so many incidents between China and the US really close to China.
I am sorry that many mistakes are in this presentation… serious mistakes…
The distance between the main island of Taiwan and China is about 100 miles, not 1.2 miles. You might want to fix your graphic.
Keep posting bro no doubt it’s gonna come
1.2 miles? Absolutely not. The Taiwan Strait is much, much wider than that.
What are you smoking to make you believe Taiwan has an air defense?
After the last Chinese invasion in 1945, there is now only around 80,000 indigenous Formosans left. I say Formosans because Taiwan, is the Chinese name for Formosa. Luckily history has moved on and everyone gets along well now on the Island.
China is also very reliant on the import of energy and food.
Yeah, Chinas exports are important for the world, but China wouldn't be in a very good place itself once imports and fishing fleets were blockaded...
China can see the geopolitics of the situation. China is too big to become a client state. USA has a plan to blockade China with the island chains, China is looking to grow while not blockaded
They can be self-suffient in food by switching crops, but energy is their Achilles Heel. Knowing this, they militarized the SCS and have been deploying warships to the ME.
As long as the US Navy stays outside of China's land-based medium missile ranges, it can dominate and strangle the enemy.
@@Grenadier311China is world’s 5th largest oil producer. China roughly produces the same amount of oil as U. S. produced back during WW2.
@@jntiger1981 Interesting. Thanks for the data.
Fun fact: Taiwan’s constitution still claims all China including the whole South China Sea and Mongolia
I am American and I do not recognize Taiwan as a country, it is a state of China. I have nothing to gain from stating this sentence either, I am nowhere near chinese.
Doesn't sound like you believe in democracy either.
I mean, it's called the Republic of China, the actual government that was running the mainland until the commies rebelled against them.
Democracy is not the only good ethical form of government out there amigo. Do you think all governments should be a democracy?@@st.george007
Perhaps, if you have no skin in the game, the best course for you is to keep your mouth shut.
@@st.george007In some cases, I would fight for democracy, and in some cases I would fight against democracy and I support the one China principle, this I side with the mainland on reuniting China.
The errors you made for the first 2:42 just throws me off. Learn to read son
3:44 rare footage of Xi Jinping getting hype 😂
Very nice and informative. Thanks
The narrator made the same mistake as Russia. He equates trade with dependence? Trade is not a necessity. Food is a necessity, but very few countries depend on China for food (if any). Energy is important, but nobody depends on China for energy.
Nice
Yeah, seems like a big fail to label the island of Formosa as being a short distance from the mainland, when that is only a few small islands that are also part of the ROC. And you realise tha you contradict yourself in making Taiwan simultaneously a part of ROC and the Japanese Empire for about 30 years. Should I even bother to watch the rest of the video?
Look @1:41 and @2:11 and you’ll realize that Versed fails to put two & two together.
@2:10 Taiwan didn’t “Become the Republic of China” after the KMT was forced off the mainland. Republic of China represented the KMT Nationalists territory which after WW2 included Taiwan and the KMT Nationalists have yet to capitulate; existing on Taiwan.
It’s essentially a North VS South Korea situation.
The real question is whether the Taiwanese would pose a formidable resistance like the Ukrainians. The people of Taiwan seem too relaxed to train and arm themselves properly.
Strictly speaking the real owner of Taiwan is not the Dutch, China nor any Han people, it’s owned by the indigenous people who first arrived and own the island.
It’s easy to use that logic to the Europeans but not on the rest of the world that does the same damn thing.
Americans agree with this view, it’s time to hand America back to the Indians 🤣
@@theobserver3753 as a native taiwanese with a quarter chinese blood, it's funny to see han taiwanese and chinese fighting for the legitimacy to rule over taiwan. because in reality both of them are the aggresssor.
China does not have to actually blockade Taiwan, they just need to convince the shipping insurance companies that they would lose their shirt if they insured ships going to Taiwan. Or just quietly buy them and then refuse to insure anything going to or from Taiwan.
That kinda action would be way too political for Western headquartered insurance company. It is tantamount to a declaration of war, essentially saying that they will be targeting commercial freighters, outside of a declaration of war, which might be a war crime in itself.
@@pinky8167 how about just raising the rates "due to concerns"?
The only reason China has enough food is because the US Navy insures safe passage. Samething for China's exports and oil imports. The US Navy can stop protecting Chinese commerical Shipping and China is toast.
@@trentkenzler8478China has a navy too
@@kanestalin7246 Lol Chinese navy can't even patrol the open oceans. Tofu buildings, tin can navy. 1 US carrier strike group has more firepower than the entire CCP navy. The US has 12 carrier strike groups.
thank you for this ww3 tutorial
All we have to do is create factories to produce generation 1 through 5 computer chips in bulk. Thuse out produce all completion buy flooding the market with cheeper better faster chips. Thuse chinna would have less of a reason to want twain the only generation 4 and 5 computer chip manufacturing area.
Japan would also step in! Hell, the Taiwanese welcomed it that Japan is now building/fortifying a military base on an island (belonging to Japan) that is very close to Taiwan - so they have an "unsinkable aircraft carrier" there!
Ironic, isn't it?
Japan chooses to proactively go to war with a country four times its size and armed with nuclear weapons that has a historical hatred for it?
And then china decleare war against Japan for invading its territory and bom there is no Japan nor a race called Japanses anymore and there is nothing usa can do bc since article 9 Japan can not engage in any military movement other then Defense 😐 china ethicly Cleanse all the japanses and everybody is happy😊 if you Havent noticed you should read more news china said it would nuke Japan if they even send one single soilder to tawain😂 by the way go read up on the postdame declaration china can legaly station Military bases in Japan bc it was one of the 4 counrtys that defeated Japan😊 so they should be more careful bout China putting military bases on their land then tawain🤗
Japan's significance is vastly overstated. With such an old population and such a poor economy, they are out of the game for the foreseeable future.
@J_X999 : Your information is decades old. Japan still has an elderly population but it has restarted on new population growth and it has successfully transferred or built many factories to other countries that have younger populations and easier access to raw or semi-processed materials. The profits from these off-shored factories are already flowing back to Japan while the design work for the finished products remain inside the Japanese home islands. Meanwhile, Japan's armed forces are growing stronger and are becoming inter-operative with both the US, the Philippines, and Australia so they are a potent deterrent at blocking any Chinese naval or airpower attempts to expand beyond the First Island Chain that blocks China from the Pacific and Indian Oceans.
are you south african?
0:58 King empire 😂😂😂
China would seal its own fate if they try anything.
This video is incorrect! Please take it down!
@10:50 that is demonstrably false.
This is the same population that calls for the government to reduce conscription duration from three years to 1 month and is in the process of transitioning to an all-volunteer force which no one wants to volunteer for.
And even if every last one of them are willing to fight, considering how they have strict gun control (like other oriental asian countries like Japan), how are the Taiwanese people going to fight without guns? People are training with airsoft and there is still no calls to losen gun restriction.
None of that really matters. The truth is no one knows how Taiwan would react to an invasion morale-wise. However the assumption that they would fight back with relatively high morale is based on historical precedent. Countries faced with invasion typically get a morale boost for defending their home, and this gets amplified by how much "worse off" they'd be if the invaders ruled them.
How exactly us deliver weapon to taiwan in wartime? By teleport?
What a juvenile brain.
Lku Singapore said it best US won't come to help Taiwan province cause Taiwan would be under constant threat from D-Day .coating US trillions .
Skip the history lesson. Already heard it a hundred times.
This has some serious inaccuracies.
The first is that China is gaining on the US economically.
Their economy is collapsing right now.
They are quickly going back to the Mau era which destroyed their economy and wiped out millions in their own country.
Another problem is with missile defense batteries.
They are becoming more and more ineffective as we saw with the Iron Dome recently.
Defense missiles have to have expensive guidance systems that make them extremely cost ineffective when you can swarm them with cheap missiles or drones.
While I’m sure Taiwanese missile defenses are very good it’s been a recent shift in weapons technology in the past couple years making them much less effective than before.
China’s military though large and somewhat modernized is more of a projection of power rather than an effective fighting force.
It’s run by CCP members who are corrupt and inept which is an understatement and They regularly purge competent leaders to avoid a coupes.
The other elephant in the room is the Three Gorges Dam which if destroyed would wipe out a huge amount of their population and break them as a nation in every conceivable way and it’s in range of Taiwan missiles.
It would flood likely 40% of China killing millions, inducing famine and economic collapse on a scale like no one’s ever seen before.
They like attacking it to Armageddon because the Chinese would likely respond with nuclear weapons if the US or an ally destroyed it.
The problem is that if Taiwan were invaded what would hold them back from destroying it?
That’s the premise of MAD.
Mutually assured destruction
😅你的想象力很丰富。你不如担心一下美国那几个八十多岁的领导人。上一个老人政治的国家是苏联😅
Dude your imagination is great but it doesn't happen in reality😅
@@xumengyuan you might want to have a normal name if you don’t want people to figure out that you’re one of them😂
How does it feel covering up the suffering of your own people to serve your CCP masters?
you watch too much of commentaries from people like Zeihan. Diversify you information intake to include REALITY would help.
@@xsu-is7vq says yet another Chinese CCP paid shill.
I can keep going guys.
Every time one of you tries to gaslight me I’m just going to point right back to your disinformation agendas
Taiwan should invest in its navy, particularly its submarine and coastal defence force. I bet no admiral in any nation's navy will dare to conduct amphibious assault when the area of operation is probably protected by standard diesel electric submarines, small diesel electric submarines, and coastal defence platforms. That's why it is very important for Taiwan to consider the acquisition of numerous small diesel electric submarines as a supplement to their submarine force.
Lol this video is so foolish majority of the world would not bat an eye if Taiwan was invaded majority of countries except US and Japan and Philippines. Most countries in the world are called democracies but are in reality just autocracies. And Europe wouldn’t get involved as they have to Russia on their border the whole thing would be a logistical nightmare. This video was funny indeed 😂
"this video is so foolish majority of the world would not bat an eye if Taiwan was invaded"
The majority of the world didn't bat an eye when Poland was invaded by Nazi Germany.
But the most important thing to remember is, that two of the world's great powers did not look the other way.
@@Chou-seh-fuhappened almost a century ago.
The world have changed.
@@Chou-seh-fu lol and which great power is gonna get in Chinas way in case of an invasion of Taiwan ? Majority of the world legit doesn’t care and agrees that Taiwan is part of china the US is the only country that plays the whole guess game with Taiwan. Also your analogy doesn’t make sense there is no other great power that can defend Taiwan which is why the US doesn’t do anything when china does full blockade exercises around the island.
@@HairLessBush You're probably right. We shouldn't study history, because it never, ever repeats itself.
There were a number of different computer generated war games where China attacks on Taiwan. with Japan and the USA China lost but at a great cost to the US navy with two aircraft carriers lost if they staged by Okinawa. It will be a naval missile war at long distances.
Misinformation
There is a reason why people flee for their lives when the Communists come
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This video is really bias towards China. I almost beleived it was an objejtive report. For about 2 min. Not bad. I usually figurire it out in less than one minute.
You forgot the part where the mongol Chinese invaded eastern Europe in 1210.
Well yes but actually no
Taiwan is a ethnic nation that got invaded by the Chinese dynasty. Illegally invaded like Manchuria, parts of Mongolia and Tibet.
What's going to happen, is, you are going to be a Taiwanese jet fighter (Yes, I say fighter jet more, but "Jet fighter" is grammatically accurate) and then China is going to fire a missile at you, but WOOPSIES, it doesn't work cause it's fuel doesn't exist, it's just water... (Yup, Chinese missile have been found to just have water in them)
China is similar to India. According to the history of India, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Maldives, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, and Tibet were once part of India as one unified nation...
Singapore was also part of Malaysia from 1963 to 1965. However, it later separated from Malaysia and became an independent nation.
Singapore and Taiwan are recognized as separate states, with their own presidents. They have established their own independent identity and governance systems.
Since Taiwan has already separated from China, it seems unlikely for them to become one again unless all those countries with a shared history unite once more.
Hey great peace but here is the thing, technology moves forward logarithmically. When you factor that in, an inch is a decade of development. The US is DESTINCTLY ahead and will remain so for several decades. Also, you data a wee bit out of date, China is facing a population implosion and since covid as well as the now aware western world to the China threat, their economy is tanking. While I think they will go for Taiwan it will be a desperation play to save the economy and more importantly the CCP
Why do you talk about colonialism when it is Europe but not when is China?
Why not?
/s
China never colonized.
Tibet? Xinjiang?@@RedCommunistDragon
@@lelouch2364 Those aren’t even colonies. Learn the definition dude.
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Quick Summary
* Think North and South Korea.
One of the two has an unmandated communist authoritarian political system, a lot of poverty and repression with widespread corruption; a small, rapidly dwindling middle class but too many ridiculously wealthy communist overlords.
The other is Taiwan, a jewel in the Taiwan Strait. It's a wonderfully successful, normal country. 'Normal' in the sense that it has an outstandingly vibrant liberal Democracy with 5 times greater per capita wealth, their own president and government of course, own currency, defence forces and a warmer more open and welcoming culture than their neighbour. Basically, there's no comparison.
Taiwan is independent in all but name and has certainly never been governed by Chinese communists (or any communists, fortunately). Taiwanese are no fools. They guard their functional independence as you would. A typical Taiwanese is as unlikely to envy China as South Koreans are of envying North Koreans.
(BTW, This video's errors are innumerable).
a video half history the rest a re-ash of information found elsewhere ..overall a boring presentation
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So many little pinkies on the comment section.😂😂😂
Also it’s pronounced Ching. You are regarded.
Nonsense
Terrible.
your history about Taiwan is mostly wrong.
Pot stiring video again!!!
This video is very misleading. Heck you can’t even pronounce the Qing dynasty right
Your story is in many respects not correct.
1.2 miles of ocean separate Taiwan from China ? Maybe you mean 120 miles ?
Yeah these Taiwan analysts always spout the same nonsense 😅
He's not referring to Taiwan (the island). He means some of the small R.O.C. islands offshore from China.
propoganda...booring
I missed the part where you were forced to watch.
@@Chou-seh-fuboooo Throws tomatoes 🍅.
I call *PROPAGANDAAAA!!*
@@HairLessBush Must be rough, not being able to incarcerate me in a Communist concentration camp.
Winner : USA
You mean the CCP 😂
Ccp is the govt of PRC... the PRC is the official China after winning the civil war against the ROC
I wouldn't be surprised if little pinks get triggered by this video😂
Second most powerful country - ON PAPER!
I raise you one Russia, who claimed to be the second most powerful country themselves and who can't even conquer Ukraine ATM (and have lost most of their experienced soldiers - so the guys who would train the next generation! - trying!)...sure China has better maintained weapons and more decently modern ones, too (still not on the level of NATO countries or Taiwan - why? Because China is still 20 years or so behind! Their current carrier-aircraft the Shenyang J-15 is a badly copied soviet aircraft - sure with more modern avionics, but with a worse engine! The original aircraft (which China owns, they bought it when they bought the carrier they now operate as the Liaoning!) has more thrust! That's why China's bad copy can either launch with full armament or with a full fuel load and that's just one example! Hell, those super powerfull hypersonic missiles? They are good to attack bases, but not to sink ships at range - because hypersonic flight renders the missile blind and deaf, because of the heat! Those things get hotter than an SR-71 Blackbird and that aircraft got over 50 Centimeters longer - so the heat was warping the metal - during flight and it was/is slower than a hypersonic missile!)...not to mention that China uses Russian command structure (so no independent thought, no taking action yourself, no innitiative! If you take out the leaders you'll sow confusion! Unlike with modern forces, where the smaller units can run independently!)
ps: China's stealth fighter (which they claim is a fifth generation fighter jet!) was easily seen on regular radar (so it has a radar-crossection that in no way protects it from an F-22 oder F-35 or even an F-16 getting a weapons lock at range!)
I would point out that while China does have a much larger military, they can not bring all of it attack Taiwan
For one thing India would love for China to leave its western borders undefended
Tibet would also be thrilled to see Chinese troops leaving
That also doesn't start to touch on the fact that China uses its military to keep its population in check
China is an authoritarian state and all authoritarian states have one thing in common
The belief of the population that if they don't go along the audocratic rule the military will make them
Without a strong military presence authoritarian rulers rarely last long
The video makes the point that China would have to take Taiwan quick, to avoid the United States and its allies coming to Taiwans aid before they can take it
The problem with that is that countries like the United States would spend weeks taking out anti-aircraft and anti-ship weaponry before actually attacking
China doesn't have the luxury of being able to telegraph their intent for that long
China has more ships than the United States right now, but half the tonnage
China is rapidly building ships in hope that they can land enough troops in short order on Taiwan despite heavy loses from anti-ship weaponry fired from the Taiwan itself
You can't sink an island
😅笑死我了，你比中国人还懂中国。
India can't do anything in the Himalayas. A couple fistfights excluded.
Uhh... Taiwan is nowhere close to 1.2 miles from China. You're wrong by about 100x.
I guess you failed at geography class. Kinmen Island, which is Taiwan sovereign, is only 3 KM away from mainland China.
@@Nesstor01He's so stupid to know that.
@@Nesstor01 Indeed. The narrator says as much at 8:17.
@@Nesstor01 I suppose equating an Island with THE island makes no never mind to you? Could the Chinese successfully invade Taiwan? You say yep. Only 3 km from China. I say nope, Taiwan is about 100 miles from China.
@@kodiak9840 "Taiwan" can mean the R.O.C. (minus its territorial pretensions), Taiwan Island, or Taiwan province. (America's Taiwan Relations Act has yet another definition: Taiwan Island plus the Pescadores Islands.)
But people in the West refer to Taiwan (almost) synonymously with the Republic of China. Nesstor01 is following this convention, as is the narrator of this video.
If Taiwan = R.O.C., and an island of the R.O.C. is 1.2 miles from Communist China, then yes: part of Taiwan is 1.2 miles from China.
What about the corruption and the single child parents. I've never heard anyone talk about how these two things would play in a China War.
If they were corrupt and scared with their children then they would be obeying you though.
You haven't heard anyone say anything about it because it's bullshit and doesn't actually matter.
The porcupine strategy does not work. Ukraine, for example, has already lost. It is essentially Dead Man Walking.
It will work as long as Taiwan should invest properly. For example, the Taiwanese Navy can acquire numerous small submarines as force multiplier to their submarine force.
@@nieljosephpalca7849that’s the problem the Taiwanese government won’t do that most their generals are busy selling information to china. While they’re populace is against them building more weapons or ships. It’s a dead end as the guy above me stated.
@@nieljosephpalca7849 Your speculation is worthless.
"Ukraine, for example, has already lost."
300,000 Russian casualties might beg to differ.
@@Chou-seh-fu Where did you get this rubbish from? Russian casualties are nowhere near that high. Maybe around 50,000.
I think you confused Russia with Ukraine. Ukraine lost at least 300,000 soldiers, according to experts like Col. Douglas Macgregor and Scott Ritter.
CCP not CPC
China calls it the CPC now
No. CPC is their official name. “CCP” is a slang name for the party
@@sinoroman Their official name is 中国共产党 -- literally "China Communist Party".
They've gone back and forth over the years as to how they officially translate that into English -- either Chinese Communist Party or Communist Party of China.
So, it's really a matter of translation, not slang.
(And of course, linguistic inertia. It's been referred to as the CCP for so long, that it seems strange to Westerners to call it anything else. Just like people didn't start pronouncing Pakistan "Pock-e-stan" just because that's what Barack Obama called it.)
Я сожалею о погибших в этой войне, которую развязала Россия, агрессии против ее соседа Украины. Я сожалею, что русский народ молчит перед лицом геноцида украинского народа. Вы заслуживаете санкций... потому что вы ничего не делаете, чтобы остановить путинскую войну.
China has a vast rocket force, including hypersonic missiles and "carrier killers." This will keep America's carrier battle groups far away from China and Taiwan.
China has a very advanced anti-submarine warfare capability.
The USA may not be able to come to Taiwan's aid.
nah, they will post up somewhere east of Taiwan and avoid China's coast where all those spiffy weapons you talk about are
In a straight up naval battle China doesn't stand a chance against the United States
All their ships are smaller and less useful
Their aircraft carriers are not nuclear and carry half as many planes
And the same goes for their submarines
China has more ships, but half the tonnage of the United States Navy and virtually no deep water resupply vessels
They are toast on open water and their carriers will have to return to dock regularly to refuel
Making them easy targets for aircraft, because the J20 is garbage compared to the F22's and F35's
But what can you expect when you steal technology from Russia
@@ImmuneToTrollHatehonestly if those hypersonic weapons work as they're supposed too, then those carriers are useless
Ever wonder why they had to purge the entire top command of the rocket force?
@@ImmuneToTrollHate China's missiles can reach Guam. None of America's ships are safe within that circle.
For defensive purposes, China's smaller ships are very useful. Destroyers, frigates, corvettes, and missile boats all carry powerful anti-ship missiles.
China's submarines are very sophisticated and they also carry powerful anti-ship missiles.
Tonnage doesn't matter.
Your knowledge of China's military is pure garbage.
Here, you state that China's porcupine strategy will definitely work. But you contradict yourself later in the comments, by stating that Taiwan's will not.
So, do porcupine strategies work, or not?
Make up your mind.
Chinese people was there since Ming density, was 400-500 years ago longer then America was found.
And now they are independend and free for decades.
@@sH-ed5yf well it’s not recognized by the UN.
@@sH-ed5yf even themself call them “the republic of China.” The idea is China, they might not be communist, but there are Chinese.
@@sH-ed5yf taiwan is not a country. Stop hating it’s fact.
@@yichengz maybe. But it doesnt change facts. They have a government, a military, their own laws and own foraign polecies. They act in the excact same way as a independend country.
Hearing cpc instead of ccp confused me for a second
Because CPC is their official name. “CCP” is a slang name for the party
You lost me at colonialism. Stuck on stupid.
Drink a shot every time he says China
Omg find a new topic
Nearly 10,000 views. Some people must be interested.