Ive used red cabbage and it does make a good variety of dyes for fabrics. Purple add salt and let it rest for a while. Pink add an acitric acid like lemon or lime juice then for a blue or green use baking soda. Also if you can make pink by letting the purple rest for a couple of days in room temp. Mine turned pink just by leaving the red cabbage on the side.
Hello again. Nice going. First off, let us not forget vegetable pigments are unstable to harsh conditions, i.e., extremely low and highs pHs and direct exposure to atmospheric oxygen. I think they're ok for easy cheap water colors for playing around, but they will rot sooner than later. Lots of different reactions, but all in all, it's biodegradation in action. Also, if the paint seems too sandpaper like, it's because the particle size is beyond 100 micrometers. The tenth of a milimeter. It's too big. Just a little more grinding, not with a glass muller (those are for dispersing), nor a coffee grinder (those always give bigger particles), but with a flour grinder or a colloidal mill. Those are expensive, but they will give you particle sizes below 15 micrometers. One thing you can do is get a ball mill. You can build it yourself, or you can buy it on Amazon. It's what jewelers use for polishing. Those will give you 20-25 micrometers in particle diameter. Micropore sizes in cellulosic fiber like paper and cloth are in the range of 1-5 micrometer, so if your particle is below 5 micrometer, it'll probably filter through the pores. Too small a particle. But you don't need that. If on the other hand it's too big, like sand paper, it won't work either. You showed that. What you're looking for is a range, say, between 10 and 25 micrometers. It's a very strict, but it's been proven that's the particle size range that works best. Ball mills are cheap enough, but they are slow, so you have to be patient. In the end it'll be worth it. Your pastes will become very buttery. I promise.
I have a question ..Natural oil paint doesn't last long?? Or if a painting is made from completely natural color ,will the colors change?is there a way to stop that?...also is using alum considered envirofriendly?
Very informative! I'll be looking into a flour grinder, that sounds promising. I would like to add that although a mortar and pestle won't be as effective as a ball mill, you could certainly get your consistency down to a much finer size than the gritty pigment you were dealing with. It won't be a uniform consistency unless you sieve out just the smaller particles, though, and I understand if someone didn't want to go through all that 😄
@@tagladyify people of the past used ground minerals & plants too, since the stone ages - clays like red ochra, yellow ochra, siena, black charcoal & white chalk, malachite & all copper minerals for greens, poison metals like lead for white or mercury for cinnobar, some very staining plants - onion skins, green grass, black tea, beets, cherries, oak/walnuts with binders like oil or egg. Purplish-red & red from mollusks, beetles & red kraplak from the krap-madder-rubia plant. Most of those were red, yellow, brown, orange, green, black & white. Blue was very hard to create and wouldn't last, except for ground lapis lazuli all the way from Afghanistan, Egyptian copper blue, ground turqois stones, certain blackberries, and Euro-Asian favourite blue plant - woad, good for cloth dying but not super great for painting, later replaced by the true indigo plant from India. Blue was the most expensive colour until synthetic indigo & other synthetic paints were created in chemist labs
@@tagladyify FAV is correct! And all of those methods had oxidization and breakdown issues; having to be set with iron mordants, which would rot fabrics and other surfaces over time, metals that would react and break down or rust, etc. Not to mention the poisoning that manufacturers suffered and died from when producing these powders and dusts. There is one account from the medieval period in particular that I can think of, where an early Islamic doctor treated a man who could not swallow by forcing him to drink vinegar and something else until he vomited clay. The man's esophagus had become crusted and literally clogged shut with dust accumulating from manufacturing products like this (of course, they didn't have micron-filtering masks back then, only fabric). That is why synthetic materials were developed to begin with- to get away from the drawbacks of what our ancestors had used.
Thank you sooooo much! I am trying to test lightfastness for my chemistry project and your videos have been extremely helpful in my search to find readily available organic material to create a lake pigment paint. I am trying the red cabbage tomorrow. This is going to get interesting...
I had a rather successful lake pigment experience with a few Chinese privet berries last year. I used the pigment to make some indigo like watercolor. I liked the color so much I went out and gathered a bunch more berries to make a big batch. But this time I added more alum and washing soda and ended up with a more muddy grainy pigment like you have here. I think it may have to do with adding too much washing soda or alum or both. There seems to be a sweet spot for how much to add and if you go beyond that, you end up with grainy muddy stuff.
I think this came out so granular for two reasons: You didn't grind to a fine enough powder or wash the pigment. Basically, you need to mix this with water and allow the heaviest particles to fall to the bottom. Pour off the colored liquid. Don't cut corners and You'll get better results. Looks like you've got a really interesting color study and learned a lot!! Also, during your dye-making process, if you allow your dye materials to sit in the liquid overnight you'll get a much deeper depth of color.
You are completely right, I think I was cutting corners and it def could have used separating the finer particles. Super appreciate the awesome feedback, im working on a big document compiling all the knowledge that viewers like you have shared here and I will include what you wrote within it! :)
Thank you, this was wonderful. Yes, cabbage is an indicator, so quite variable over pH ranges, and a dye rather than a pigment. I see many comments on getting your particle size down in the comments, I haven't a clue. Best of luck with your quest, and thanks again.
Hi Nada. Neighbour here in Ontario! came across your video, and I've now watched 3. for sure ill watch and follow your career, and experiments. - but Thought I would take a moment to first say hi! - Your experiments with pigment are really great, your voice and dry humour towards the process, and disappointments is spot on! - But the art lies in your process! and its cool to see, and watch, and listen too. I hope you well, and a fun learning and playful life as an artist, in whatever form or medium you explore!
hello! I was rewatching for research purposes. So, reactions like this tend to be slow and all in all, need their time.so you were just pouring big amounts of alkaline and acidic subtances, that gave a beautiful color at that moment, but in reality the reaction continued to happen so the color changed even more .It really reminded me of chemistry experiments we did this year in school, where we tested the acidity regulators and the capability of ceratin substances to change color (idon't know the exact terminology in english).Our teacher told us that the color is even brighter after 10 or 15 minutes, and he was right, a pastel rose turned into a brigh flashy pink after only 10 minutes.Also, it may has to do with how things look when wet,For exmaple, wet hair looks darker than dried hair. Those are my ideas, anyway.
Another way to get the colors is to boil cabbage. When boiling, add some sugar and it turns blue. Then add some vinegar and it turns red. Then you can eat it or use the color to tint food.
It went badly because you should use earth pigments. Vegetables are subject to decay and rock isn't. In the ancient world they didn't paint or dye with blue until the Egyptians began using it. From there it slowly found popularity. Then they started using lapis lazuli in oil paints in the year 600AD. It was widely used in the renaissance by the Old Masters where it was very expensive. Try grinding lapis lazuli and see how it goes for you. You can get lapis raw stone on etsy.
Thanks for a really fascinating video! I see a few great tips here in the comments, but one thing that seems unanswered is the small amount of acidic pigment. It sounds like the acid might have been strong enough to dissolve some of the basic soda powder. Cool to see the progress; red -> purple -> blue -> green 😝
I’m curious to know if you could possibly take the liquid to make an ink rather than a paint. I’m a watercolor artist and I love working with inks! I would be ecstatic to be able to play with these colors in my art! Btw I love your videos! You seem to know exactly what your doing and I have so much respect for your work! Keep it up!
interestingly, I boiled down the red cabbage added the baking soda and when I applied to arches watercolor 300lb paper it remained blue. when I left it over night in the dehydrator it turned to a dark blue black my husband added some flour to the consistency to make it pasty. just a pinch. never did get it to remain that turquoise blue color.
I've been trying my hand at ink-making recently with the ultimate goal of making ink that works in a fountain pen. I tried red cabbage and its one of the most promising candidates, my only problem was I couldn't figure out a preservative. I tried different ratios of salt and vinegar but I fear they will corrode the nib. Do you have any suggestions for other readily available preservatives? Also here's a few pigment sources I've run into in my searches that may be of interest to you for future videos (if they haven't been discussed in videos already). -Beetroot -Acorns and iron salts (classic iron gall ink) makes very nice blacks. -Buckthorn berry (haven't tried it, supposedly it produces a nice green) -huckleberry (haven't tried it, supposedly it produces blue) -Onion Skins -Sumac Keep up the awesome work!
I once saw another youtuber mixing things together for an Illumination art project and they used a glass grinder on a marble tile to get an extremely fine mix, even more so than a coffee grinder would make.
As a scientist I can really appreciate this type of alchemy experiment :-) Some of the pigments you got look really gorgeous, have you tried using a water based medium to test them? T think it might be easier than oil?
Thank you for the lesson. I got plenty out of it.I won’t be doing it, but you saved me ton’s of time. I think I would like to experiment with cochineal. We have lots of cactus around here and there’s always some of those bugs on the paddles. They turn bright bright red and as a pigment they were considered one of the most important imports from the New World because of their value in dying.
I wonder if this very grainy pigment powder may form an interesting _granulating_ watercolour if blended with a very smooth second pigment? Thinking if it might possibly offer you some very interesting colour separation when used in a very wet wash on cold-pressed or ‘not’ paper. Granulating and colour-separating paints are imo the ‘holy grail’ of watercolour, they create such fabulous effects. In other words, perhaps don’t throw the baby out with the bath water, _just_ yet! 💙
"If you want to see somebody who pathologically cuts corners, and then almost always regrets it later, you've come to the right channel" Oh me too friend, me too. Especially once I find out I can do something, I want to do it to EVERYTHING and I want all the results right now.
for your acid test, keep in mind the role of washing soda in this reaction.. you got so little because the ph wasnt right for the pigment to precipitate with the alum. the cabbage changing color but less so on the chalk could be that chalk is lime, its basic on its own, and the pigment will interact with the air over time, sloooowly making it more acidic from moisture and co2.. this wouldnt be enough to harm most paints except over several lifetimes without a varnish layer, but as cabbage changes color with ph changes you'd expect instability..
Wow !!! I am uber impressed by you. As a super-novice dabbler, i could wish for a bit more explanation of the some materials used and their purpose (washing soda, etc.), but i guess that's up to me to research. Again, - - - you're opening doors !
Thank you, I really really appreciate that - I should def explain more of what the materials are, I guess I end up worried that ill bore people or itll be too much information overload but I think the knowledge is more useful than the entertainment aspect. Ill def take this to heart and start explaining more of the chemistry
@@NadaMakes1 That will be so nice of you and like you said "the knowledge is more useful than the entertainment aspect". Thank you so much for this video! Subscribed 😊
I gotta ask... Why not dehydrate the color foods you want and grind them down to a powder? Is that skipping too many important steps? Would it mold after becoming moist again?
"If you want to see someone who pathologically cuts corners then almost always regrets it later, you've come to the right channel." This spoke to me on a spiritual level 😂 Which additive/base would you recommend for making watercolors?
hello! So i attempted to make this at home but i think i diluted the solution too much because it didnt make any paste and it all the coffee filter was left empty. Can you please tell me the ratio of alum powder to water and washing soda to water please? thank you so much in advance!
Unfortunately I sort of eye balled it - I would say 1-2 teaspoons of alum to only a quarter at most teaspoon of washing soda. The alum should be way more than the soda! You also should have some fizzing and frothing
I personally enjoyed the whole video. The red cabbage is a beautiful color but if you want colorfastness have you considered blackberries? Even without mordant that juice will stain canvas forever (at least on tennis shoes).
yes my textile is a blend. and im searched so many times to find natural purple and red color that can be stabilize but i wasnot successefull. . i know that coccus is stabilize and we can get beautiful purple and red. but coccus is so expensive in my cointury then we couldnot use it. i wanna find vegetable dyes that i can get purple and vinaceous colors.yes you are right, wool and cotton require different mordants , i asked for cabbage that it require to what mordant
I really like this video...since it shows the basic process for a lake pigment from plant material. Wish it had worked better. Looking forward to you doing more lake pigment tests with other plants. Hope some turn out better than this one did.
This was great. I've been experimenting with fruit and vegetable colours as well. I make play dough with the colours i extract and it's great! I have just started trying to make children's paint as well. You know, the basic cornflour type, but with no nasty additives. So far it's a big fail. Nowhere near enough colour. If you, or anyone else, has any advice or ideas, i would be so grateful.
ua-cam.com/video/ZNSVTkw1dhk/v-deo.html Hi, this is a link where the lady is trying to make water color paints from different edible things and you will notice that some colors came out ok and some were very light and she said that even the light ones she could use but she will let them dry and paint over to darken the color and maybe let dry and paint and so on till she would achieve the desired color, now I think (haven't tried yet) what if instead of boiling the cabbage we will juice it. The color will be stronger wouldn't it? than let's use a quarter cup of juice and mix it with corn starch to form a paste and spread the paste on a baking paper and dry it in a dehydrator or in the oven on a very low setting and once dried, grind it and repeat the process again. Turn the now colored ground corn starch into a paste using fresh juice make a paste, dry it, grind it and repeat. What I think will happen is every time the corn starch gets soaked in new juice, will suck more pigment and the color will be more intense. I was thinking to try this in an attempt to create a natural food coloring. By playing with the ph like Nada Makes did, we can obtain different colors. Things that cannot be juiced like onion skins or turmeric powder can be boiled in little water. Onion skins will give us reddish/brownish color and turmeric yellow, carrots orange, spinach green, or other edible leaves for darker green etc. I think it is worth trying. I'm christian orthodox and my Easter is this coming Sunday. I will try that after and I will let you know the results. If you do that before me please let me know. Thanks!
Why Walnut alkyd? I think I’d use a more neutral non alkyd oil-If you ever repeat this experiment. I found this an exciting and very interesting process- Thanks for sharing it with us.
I dye paper for book making and am looking for blues and purple- I wanna try it as a dye and do the light fast trial on paper to see if it’s worth using red cabbage. Something tells me it won’t keep its color. But think it would be lovely to add resist drawing and place in the sun as a trial. Then use acrylic Matt medium to seal it in.
Actually the reason why the acid test turn blue was because the acetic acid in the vinegar evaporated and the citric acid in the lemon got neutralized by the soda powder you used. So it turn light blue , maybe you should use a stronger acid, or more acid to counter act the basicness of the soda powder stuff :) Also make sure the acid you use doesn’t evaporate
NadaMakes also I’d probably use bagged citric acid rather than lemons because lemon can vary in citrus acid levels so I’d used the pure citric acid diluted in some water
I do not think it is the best idea! I tried it once when I was younger and it stained unevenly and ruined the texture of the fiber made it very stiff and scratchy
very interesting video. I think one needs a degree in chemistry to actually give solid and useful feedback. Still I enjoyed watching your tests. I don't think a coffee grinder is really the tool to grind substance to a powder form, coffee is not ground to such consistency. I know is been three years but I would like to know where you took this experiment, where you able to resolve your issues? Seen rocks turn to powder with a rock tumbler with metal ball bearings inside.
if I could make a suggestion, after you've boiled the red cabbage and the liquid has turned purple, add nothing except a crap load of baking soda to it, stir it around, and let it settle to the bottom. after that let it sit in the fridge for a few days, to a week. Afterwards pour the turquoise liquid off and what will be left on the bottom should be a light blue paste. This is the dyed baking soda which after drying and grinding in a mortar and pestle, should work as a painting pigment. That's what I do anyway
Cool video, but have you considered to shred the cabbage, boil it and then the pieces of cabbage to be left in the sun to dry out and then made into powder? I have no idea how it would turn out but I have seen this process with beetroot, so maybe it does work with other vegetables? :D
Your supposed to use sodium metal and water and red cabbage powder then add an acid to make it lighter then dry into powder and then add oil to colored powder.
Try using Algae. It's incredibly pigmented. I've always wondered how my algae powder would work as a paint. There's blue-green algae, green algae, red algae and all different colors of seaweed as well!
Hmm, you should try Hydrochloric acid, tartaric acid, citric acid. Red cabbage powder from amazon is very cool and Interesting. I don't recommend Lye since it too high in pH and will eat paper.
Hello! Loved your video! I do have a question. Are these materials safe for babies? I am making milk based paint with organic pigments but i still am working my way into producing the pigments. Thanks for you video
Hi and thank you! I have to tell that im not sure, and for that reason really wouldn't recommend it! If you're using milk as the mordant and only adding pigment then it should be fine, it would be dangerous in a dry state though (dont want the baby to inhale it) but if its wet it should be safer.
(Signed into my mum account cause I’m lazy) So what exactly is it that makes the powder pigment? What does the alum actually do? And the washing soda? I watched your other videos, I’m just a bit slow... I’m trying to make some to use at uni. Is it a combo of the 2 powders? Like what is the purpose of 5 washing soda? ahh
Hi, your videos are really interesting, unfortunately it seams that there is no help for the cabbage test, I'm interested in making my own colours as a practicle exercise. That's probably how the ancients did it minus the coffee grinder of course! I paint, but I'm also a spinner, Weaver and Dyer so to me it's fascinating as to what you can get colour out of, I'm going to doing experiments with different soils and getting quite interesting results. Cheers!
if u manage to add the proportions correctly by doing sme research you can get that cabbage color. and trust me it was very amazing never imagined about cabbage color. really enjoyed
try blue pea flower... i sincerely hope you can get some from where you're from. From where Im from, we use blue pea flowers as a natural food colouring
Ive used red cabbage and it does make a good variety of dyes for fabrics. Purple add salt and let it rest for a while. Pink add an acitric acid like lemon or lime juice then for a blue or green use baking soda. Also if you can make pink by letting the purple rest for a couple of days in room temp. Mine turned pink just by leaving the red cabbage on the side.
yes, but how light/colour fast is it
Hello again. Nice going. First off, let us not forget vegetable pigments are unstable to harsh conditions, i.e., extremely low and highs pHs and direct exposure to atmospheric oxygen. I think they're ok for easy cheap water colors for playing around, but they will rot sooner than later. Lots of different reactions, but all in all, it's biodegradation in action. Also, if the paint seems too sandpaper like, it's because the particle size is beyond 100 micrometers. The tenth of a milimeter. It's too big. Just a little more grinding, not with a glass muller (those are for dispersing), nor a coffee grinder (those always give bigger particles), but with a flour grinder or a colloidal mill. Those are expensive, but they will give you particle sizes below 15 micrometers. One thing you can do is get a ball mill. You can build it yourself, or you can buy it on Amazon. It's what jewelers use for polishing. Those will give you 20-25 micrometers in particle diameter. Micropore sizes in cellulosic fiber like paper and cloth are in the range of 1-5 micrometer, so if your particle is below 5 micrometer, it'll probably filter through the pores. Too small a particle. But you don't need that. If on the other hand it's too big, like sand paper, it won't work either. You showed that. What you're looking for is a range, say, between 10 and 25 micrometers. It's a very strict, but it's been proven that's the particle size range that works best. Ball mills are cheap enough, but they are slow, so you have to be patient. In the end it'll be worth it. Your pastes will become very buttery. I promise.
I have a question ..Natural oil paint doesn't last long?? Or if a painting is made from completely natural color ,will the colors change?is there a way to stop that?...also is using alum considered envirofriendly?
If none of the natural pigments work then what was used in the distant past? I know rock and bugs were used, but that doesn't give the full spectrum.
Very informative! I'll be looking into a flour grinder, that sounds promising.
I would like to add that although a mortar and pestle won't be as effective as a ball mill, you could certainly get your consistency down to a much finer size than the gritty pigment you were dealing with. It won't be a uniform consistency unless you sieve out just the smaller particles, though, and I understand if someone didn't want to go through all that 😄
@@tagladyify people of the past used ground minerals & plants too, since the stone ages - clays like red ochra, yellow ochra, siena, black charcoal & white chalk, malachite & all copper minerals for greens, poison metals like lead for white or mercury for cinnobar, some very staining plants - onion skins, green grass, black tea, beets, cherries, oak/walnuts with binders like oil or egg. Purplish-red & red from mollusks, beetles & red kraplak from the krap-madder-rubia plant. Most of those were red, yellow, brown, orange, green, black & white. Blue was very hard to create and wouldn't last, except for ground lapis lazuli all the way from Afghanistan, Egyptian copper blue, ground turqois stones, certain blackberries, and Euro-Asian favourite blue plant - woad, good for cloth dying but not super great for painting, later replaced by the true indigo plant from India. Blue was the most expensive colour until synthetic indigo & other synthetic paints were created in chemist labs
@@tagladyify FAV is correct! And all of those methods had oxidization and breakdown issues; having to be set with iron mordants, which would rot fabrics and other surfaces over time, metals that would react and break down or rust, etc. Not to mention the poisoning that manufacturers suffered and died from when producing these powders and dusts. There is one account from the medieval period in particular that I can think of, where an early Islamic doctor treated a man who could not swallow by forcing him to drink vinegar and something else until he vomited clay. The man's esophagus had become crusted and literally clogged shut with dust accumulating from manufacturing products like this (of course, they didn't have micron-filtering masks back then, only fabric). That is why synthetic materials were developed to begin with- to get away from the drawbacks of what our ancestors had used.
Invest in a good ceramic morter and pestil to give your powder a really good finish grinding before adding your oil.
I think all the colours that came out are so beautiful! def not ugly or gross, so earthy, rich and textured!
As someone who loves colors, I find your experiments fascinating! I'll stay tuned!
Subbed. You had me at cabbage and touching the satisfying green gunk, because you are a child at heart haha big mood. Touch everything!
Thank you sooooo much! I am trying to test lightfastness for my chemistry project and your videos have been extremely helpful in my search to find readily available organic material to create a lake pigment paint. I am trying the red cabbage tomorrow. This is going to get interesting...
I had a rather successful lake pigment experience with a few Chinese privet berries last year. I used the pigment to make some indigo like watercolor. I liked the color so much I went out and gathered a bunch more berries to make a big batch. But this time I added more alum and washing soda and ended up with a more muddy grainy pigment like you have here. I think it may have to do with adding too much washing soda or alum or both. There seems to be a sweet spot for how much to add and if you go beyond that, you end up with grainy muddy stuff.
Love this .. was looking for 'blue' and here you are doing elemental research like a medieval alchemist. You are amazing.
An alchemist is an alchemist is an alchemist no matter the time.
🤔 *Red cabbage that is purple, which makes blue pigment. Silly nature!* 😝😊
The purple dye can turn to blue or even green to yellow... Thanks to pH then
😂😂😂😂
Silly nature tricks are for kids
We're just poor at naming things accurately.
Blue berries are blue on the outside and green on the inside and somehow when you blend them they’re purple
Welllllll... Looks like I'll be binge watching your videos soon... This was amazing.
Those of us whom worship muted colors just subscribed. You made beautiful colors.
I think this came out so granular for two reasons: You didn't grind to a fine enough powder or wash the pigment. Basically, you need to mix this with water and allow the heaviest particles to fall to the bottom. Pour off the colored liquid. Don't cut corners and You'll get better results. Looks like you've got a really interesting color study and learned a lot!! Also, during your dye-making process, if you allow your dye materials to sit in the liquid overnight you'll get a much deeper depth of color.
You are completely right, I think I was cutting corners and it def could have used separating the finer particles. Super appreciate the awesome feedback, im working on a big document compiling all the knowledge that viewers like you have shared here and I will include what you wrote within it! :)
This was such a fascinating experiment!! Thanks for sharing :)
Wow!Stunned by this a very genuine n interesting,needful,confusion free video.
Thank you for sharing your experiments and adventures. I loved it.
those are some amazing colors from just one vegetable! might try this soon
Your dry humor is spot on! 😂🤣
Thank you, this was wonderful. Yes, cabbage is an indicator, so quite variable over pH ranges, and a dye rather than a pigment. I see many comments on getting your particle size down in the comments, I haven't a clue. Best of luck with your quest, and thanks again.
Hi Nada. Neighbour here in Ontario! came across your video, and I've now watched 3. for sure ill watch and follow your career, and experiments. - but Thought I would take a moment to first say hi! - Your experiments with pigment are really great, your voice and dry humour towards the process, and disappointments is spot on! - But the art lies in your process! and its cool to see, and watch, and listen too. I hope you well, and a fun learning and playful life as an artist, in whatever form or medium you explore!
Beautiful vege to print with as well. Great vid thank you for sharing
hello! I was rewatching for research purposes. So, reactions like this tend to be slow and all in all, need their time.so you were just pouring big amounts of alkaline and acidic subtances, that gave a beautiful color at that moment, but in reality the reaction continued to happen so the color changed even more .It really reminded me of chemistry experiments we did this year in school, where we tested the acidity regulators and the capability of ceratin substances to change color (idon't know the exact terminology in english).Our teacher told us that the color is even brighter after 10 or 15 minutes, and he was right, a pastel rose turned into a brigh flashy pink after only 10 minutes.Also, it may has to do with how things look when wet,For exmaple, wet hair looks darker than dried hair. Those are my ideas, anyway.
That sounds like the exact same thing.
A bit late to the party, but fascinating video! Thank you for your time and effort and for posting it!
It looks like you created some coloured texture paste. As a mixed media artist I would use that to good effect. tfs.
Yes! Paint doesnt always have to be smooth ;) I appreciate the open-mindedness
Another way to get the colors is to boil cabbage. When boiling, add some sugar and it turns blue. Then add some vinegar and it turns red. Then you can eat it or use the color to tint food.
I love your experiements, and narration. Thanks for sharing!
You made a huge effort to experiment yourself. That’s very important and shows you’re passionate, good for you!
Patronize much?
Very nice tips to make own paint, As a painter I'll love to make my own paint, thanks for sharing,♥️👍♥️
Thank you so much, im really glad you enjoyed it!
WHAT?
ThIs Gurl is Literally Making Her Own Paint aaaaaaaaah
On my way to finding out how to make pigment I met Bob Ross and cobalt blue oil paint. Then, on to what to do with the red cabbage in the fridge ♥️
Great fun and educational video love your humor😁👏🏽👏🏽‼ loved it!
It went badly because you should use earth pigments. Vegetables are subject to decay and rock isn't. In the ancient world they didn't paint or dye with blue until the Egyptians began using it. From there it slowly found popularity. Then they started using lapis lazuli in oil paints in the year 600AD. It was widely used in the renaissance by the Old Masters where it was very expensive. Try grinding lapis lazuli and see how it goes for you. You can get lapis raw stone on etsy.
Thanks for a really fascinating video! I see a few great tips here in the comments, but one thing that seems unanswered is the small amount of acidic pigment. It sounds like the acid might have been strong enough to dissolve some of the basic soda powder.
Cool to see the progress; red -> purple -> blue -> green 😝
Use cabbage powder and different acids and bases for color change and dry it out into a powder then add oil of any type.
I’m curious to know if you could possibly take the liquid to make an ink rather than a paint. I’m a watercolor artist and I love working with inks! I would be ecstatic to be able to play with these colors in my art! Btw I love your videos! You seem to know exactly what your doing and I have so much respect for your work! Keep it up!
NadaMakes Thank you! That’s very helpful! I think I might try to make some in my free time. Keep up the good work!
I have been trying to find a fine enough sieve for making watercolors, but not really sure what to search for...
hello, take a look in this book
ua-cam.com/video/ZNSVTkw1dhk/v-deo.html hope that helps 😊
interestingly, I boiled down the red cabbage added the baking soda and when I applied to arches watercolor 300lb paper it remained blue. when I left it over night in the dehydrator it turned to a dark blue black my husband added some flour to the consistency to make it pasty. just a pinch. never did get it to remain that turquoise blue color.
She said washing soda (NAsub2CO3) not baking soda (NAHCO3).
Do you think any of these variations would work as a stain for sanded bamboo?
I've been trying my hand at ink-making recently with the ultimate goal of making ink that works in a fountain pen. I tried red cabbage and its one of the most promising candidates, my only problem was I couldn't figure out a preservative. I tried different ratios of salt and vinegar but I fear they will corrode the nib. Do you have any suggestions for other readily available preservatives?
Also here's a few pigment sources I've run into in my searches that may be of interest to you for future videos (if they haven't been discussed in videos already).
-Beetroot
-Acorns and iron salts (classic iron gall ink) makes very nice blacks.
-Buckthorn berry (haven't tried it, supposedly it produces a nice green)
-huckleberry (haven't tried it, supposedly it produces blue)
-Onion Skins
-Sumac
Keep up the awesome work!
For a preservative, have you tried essential oils, such as wintergreen (use to be used for school paste) .
use evergreen oil or whole cloves
I once saw another youtuber mixing things together for an Illumination art project and they used a glass grinder on a marble tile to get an extremely fine mix, even more so than a coffee grinder would make.
As a scientist I can really appreciate this type of alchemy experiment :-) Some of the pigments you got look really gorgeous, have you tried using a water based medium to test them? T think it might be easier than oil?
Amazing video. Done so well. Can't wait to watch the purple clay one!
Thank you so much, really appreciate it
Thank you for the lesson. I got plenty out of it.I won’t be doing it, but you saved me ton’s of time. I think I would like to experiment with cochineal. We have lots of cactus around here and there’s always some of those bugs on the paddles. They turn bright bright red and as a pigment they were considered one of the most important imports from the New World because of their value in dying.
I wonder if this very grainy pigment powder may form an interesting _granulating_ watercolour if blended with a very smooth second pigment?
Thinking if it might possibly offer you some very interesting colour separation when used in a very wet wash on cold-pressed or ‘not’ paper.
Granulating and colour-separating paints are imo the ‘holy grail’ of watercolour, they create such fabulous effects. In other words, perhaps don’t throw the baby out with the bath water, _just_ yet! 💙
This is such a great idea!!!
Try adding limetone and turmeric, as mixture of lime and turmeric gives a saffron colour. Soda and turmeric gives red colour
"If you want to see somebody who pathologically cuts corners, and then almost always regrets it later, you've come to the right channel" Oh me too friend, me too. Especially once I find out I can do something, I want to do it to EVERYTHING and I want all the results right now.
I never thought Dmg would react with iron salts, copper salts, some manganese salts toproduce air sensitive pigments. Quite cool.
Hi dear.this pigmrnt can use bpaint or cosmetics or ditergent?
I wonder if you could precipitate cabbage dye from acidic solution using strontium or barium sulfate.
for your acid test, keep in mind the role of washing soda in this reaction.. you got so little because the ph wasnt right for the pigment to precipitate with the alum. the cabbage changing color but less so on the chalk could be that chalk is lime, its basic on its own, and the pigment will interact with the air over time, sloooowly making it more acidic from moisture and co2.. this wouldnt be enough to harm most paints except over several lifetimes without a varnish layer, but as cabbage changes color with ph changes you'd expect instability..
Your music choice is excellent.
Wow !!!
I am uber impressed by you.
As a super-novice dabbler, i could wish for a bit more explanation of the some materials used and their purpose (washing soda, etc.), but i guess that's up to me to research.
Again, - - - you're opening doors !
Thank you, I really really appreciate that - I should def explain more of what the materials are, I guess I end up worried that ill bore people or itll be too much information overload but I think the knowledge is more useful than the entertainment aspect. Ill def take this to heart and start explaining more of the chemistry
@@NadaMakes1 That will be so nice of you and like you said "the knowledge is more useful than the entertainment aspect". Thank you so much for this video! Subscribed 😊
I gotta ask... Why not dehydrate the color foods you want and grind them down to a powder? Is that skipping too many important steps? Would it mold after becoming moist again?
After grinding then use a mortar and pestle. Makes it finer.
"If you want to see someone who pathologically cuts corners then almost always regrets it later, you've come to the right channel." This spoke to me on a spiritual level 😂 Which additive/base would you recommend for making watercolors?
arleebean makes her own binder for watercolor paints ua-cam.com/video/x_779MFFtF0/v-deo.html
BINDER RECIPE:
- 1 1/2 cups gum arabic powder
- 2 cups boiled distilled water (still hot)
- 2 TBSP glycerin
- 2 TBSP honey
- 2 drops clove oil
Try looking for Añil, it's a natural indigo plant pigment
what is washing powder? Lovely video.
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Also do the pigments star to smell bad at all? The wool roving I dyed with cabbage smelt awful haha
Have you used beetroot to make paint? And have you made oil pastels? Thank you for sharing your experiment. Cheers from Australia!
I did try several methods and none of them worked out! I will probably post the results of that soon and thank you :)
@@NadaMakes1 thank for a reply, I shall look forward to your new video, I hope you keep making and sharing as they are very interesting. Cheers!
your outro is so cute!! I love it
What would you use to get a cobalt blue color or navy blue?
What is alum and how can I get it?
Man! Love this. You have beautiful hands btw.
LOVED this video. Interesting.
hello! So i attempted to make this at home but i think i diluted the solution too much because it didnt make any paste and it all the coffee filter was left empty. Can you please tell me the ratio of alum powder to water and washing soda to water please? thank you so much in advance!
Unfortunately I sort of eye balled it - I would say 1-2 teaspoons of alum to only a quarter at most teaspoon of washing soda. The alum should be way more than the soda! You also should have some fizzing and frothing
I personally enjoyed the whole video. The red cabbage is a beautiful color but if you want colorfastness have you considered blackberries? Even without mordant that juice will stain canvas forever (at least on tennis shoes).
Ah im really happy you enjoyed it :) blackberries sounds like a very smart idea, would love to see what they do
Hello! Is this paint safe for use on skin? If not, what changed would you say could be made to make it usable on skin?
I would look into the MSDS sheet for alum! :) that should give proper/ legit answer
mad respect for these videos, bringing to life things ive tried to attempt much better
are u a chemist? ur approach reminds me of it speaking as one
What she is doing makes her a chemist.
Hello. I'm a weaver of rug and kilim ( flat weave) Could I dye my wool or cotton with cabbage? And what mordant shall I use for it!? Thanks
yes my textile is a blend. and im searched so many times to find natural purple and red color that can be stabilize but i wasnot successefull. . i know that coccus is stabilize and we can get beautiful purple and red. but coccus is so expensive in my cointury then we couldnot use it. i wanna find vegetable dyes that i can get purple and
vinaceous colors.yes you are right, wool and cotton require different mordants , i asked for cabbage that it require to what mordant
amazing video!!!!!
I really like this video...since it shows the basic process for a lake pigment from plant material. Wish it had worked better. Looking forward to you doing more lake pigment tests with other plants. Hope some turn out better than this one did.
This was great. I've been experimenting with fruit and vegetable colours as well. I make play dough with the colours i extract and it's great! I have just started trying to make children's paint as well. You know, the basic cornflour type, but with no nasty additives. So far it's a big fail. Nowhere near enough colour. If you, or anyone else, has any advice or ideas, i would be so grateful.
Thats so awesome! Let us know how that goes
ua-cam.com/video/ZNSVTkw1dhk/v-deo.html Hi, this is a link where the lady is trying to make water color paints from different edible things and you will notice that some colors came out ok and some were very light and she said that even the light ones she could use but she will let them dry and paint over to darken the color and maybe let dry and paint and so on till she would achieve the desired color, now I think (haven't tried yet) what if instead of boiling the cabbage we will juice it. The color will be stronger wouldn't it? than let's use a quarter cup of juice and mix it with corn starch to form a paste and spread the paste on a baking paper and dry it in a dehydrator or in the oven on a very low setting and once dried, grind it and repeat the process again. Turn the now colored ground corn starch into a paste using fresh juice make a paste, dry it, grind it and repeat. What I think will happen is every time the corn starch gets soaked in new juice, will suck more pigment and the color will be more intense. I was thinking to try this in an attempt to create a natural food coloring. By playing with the ph like Nada Makes did, we can obtain different colors. Things that cannot be juiced like onion skins or turmeric powder can be boiled in little water. Onion skins will give us reddish/brownish color and turmeric yellow, carrots orange, spinach green, or other edible leaves for darker green etc. I think it is worth trying. I'm christian orthodox and my Easter is this coming Sunday. I will try that after and I will let you know the results. If you do that before me please let me know. Thanks!
Why Walnut alkyd?
I think I’d use a more neutral non alkyd oil-If you ever repeat this experiment.
I found this an exciting and very interesting process-
Thanks for sharing it with us.
I dye paper for book making and am looking for blues and purple- I wanna try it as a dye and do the light fast trial on paper to see if it’s worth using red cabbage. Something tells me it won’t keep its color.
But think it would be lovely to add resist drawing and place in the sun as a trial.
Then use acrylic Matt medium to seal it in.
Actually the reason why the acid test turn blue was because the acetic acid in the vinegar evaporated and the citric acid in the lemon got neutralized by the soda powder you used. So it turn light blue , maybe you should use a stronger acid, or more acid to counter act the basicness of the soda powder stuff :) Also make sure the acid you use doesn’t evaporate
NadaMakes I mean depends on how much you use but yeah totally it’s could work but mind you that I haven’t tried this myself
NadaMakes also I’d probably use bagged citric acid rather than lemons because lemon can vary in citrus acid levels so I’d used the pure citric acid diluted in some water
Thank for knowledge sharing
Sister my need acrylic emaltion make ingredient and weather cord wallpaint making ingredient formulation.please can healp me?
can we take standard acrylic paint to dye a cotton Tshirt?
I do not think it is the best idea! I tried it once when I was younger and it stained unevenly and ruined the texture of the fiber made it very stiff and scratchy
Does the pigment dull over time?
Yes it fades like crazy!
Totally subscribing. Loving your content so far
Thats too funny - I am massively lazy and can barely get anything done most days lol
Thanks for subscribing, me
Thank you for sharing.
very interesting video. I think one needs a degree in chemistry to actually give solid and useful feedback. Still I enjoyed watching your tests. I don't think a coffee grinder is really the tool to grind substance to a powder form, coffee is not ground to such consistency. I know is been three years but I would like to know where you took this experiment, where you able to resolve your issues? Seen rocks turn to powder with a rock tumbler with metal ball bearings inside.
if I could make a suggestion, after you've boiled the red cabbage and the liquid has turned purple, add nothing except a crap load of baking soda to it, stir it around, and let it settle to the bottom. after that let it sit in the fridge for a few days, to a week. Afterwards pour the turquoise liquid off and what will be left on the bottom should be a light blue paste. This is the dyed baking soda which after drying and grinding in a mortar and pestle, should work as a painting pigment. That's what I do anyway
yes it's baking soda, and so far the paintings I've made with it haven't faded as of yet. And it's been a little over a year now.
not at all! I'd love to see it!
I've seen some people use the dye straight more similar to a water color, have you or would you test that?
I also seen people use honey as a binder
Yes that would definitely work! I was an oil painter at the time so I hadn't really thought of watercolors.
Honey is the ancient binding method of paints.
Cool video, but have you considered to shred the cabbage, boil it and then the pieces of cabbage to be left in the sun to dry out and then made into powder? I have no idea how it would turn out but I have seen this process with beetroot, so maybe it does work with other vegetables? :D
Yes! Ive found that the main issue with doing it that way though is that the organic material rots. oxidizes and almost always turns brown
I hope you have somewhere put that cabbage is fugitive on fabrics? or this is misleading.
Hi, what do you add to the pigment? It's oil?
Probably flaxseed (linseed) oil. I'm no expert.
A ball tumbler would make it finer, also fine fabric straining like buttercloth would help alot
Wow this is facinating,,,
Satisfied
Your supposed to use sodium metal and water and red cabbage powder then add an acid to make it lighter then dry into powder and then add oil to colored powder.
Mortar and pestle to find it finer and a tea strainer that is fine mesh might help to get it finer
Love it
Try using Algae. It's incredibly pigmented. I've always wondered how my algae powder would work as a paint. There's blue-green algae, green algae, red algae and all different colors of seaweed as well!
Eventually it will all oxidize to yellows and browns, unelss you keep it in the dark (the final painting, I mean).
Hmm, you should try Hydrochloric acid, tartaric acid, citric acid. Red cabbage powder from amazon is very cool and Interesting. I don't recommend Lye since it too high in pH and will eat paper.
Those are great suggestions, thank you!
You may have to pipette 5 ml of 31 percent hcl to 100 ml water or weigh out 2 g of sodium bisulfate to 150 ml.
Make a mill grinder for the final grind, lots of videos on youtube on how to make one.
Yes Im really missing a mill grinder, will for sure work on that!
Hello! Loved your video! I do have a question. Are these materials safe for babies? I am making milk based paint with organic pigments but i still am working my way into producing the pigments. Thanks for you video
Hi and thank you! I have to tell that im not sure, and for that reason really wouldn't recommend it! If you're using milk as the mordant and only adding pigment then it should be fine, it would be dangerous in a dry state though (dont want the baby to inhale it) but if its wet it should be safer.
(Signed into my mum account cause I’m lazy) So what exactly is it that makes the powder pigment? What does the alum actually do? And the washing soda? I watched your other videos, I’m just a bit slow... I’m trying to make some to use at uni. Is it a combo of the 2 powders? Like what is the purpose of 5 washing soda? ahh
Hi, your videos are really interesting, unfortunately it seams that there is no help for the cabbage test, I'm interested in making my own colours as a practicle exercise. That's probably how the ancients did it minus the coffee grinder of course! I paint, but I'm also a spinner, Weaver and Dyer so to me it's fascinating as to what you can get colour out of, I'm going to doing experiments with different soils and getting quite interesting results. Cheers!
if u manage to add the proportions correctly by doing sme research you can get that cabbage color. and trust me it was very amazing never imagined about cabbage color. really enjoyed
Brilliant video! ❤️ By washing soda, do you mean something like Borax? Thank you.
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try blue pea flower... i sincerely hope you can get some from where you're from. From where Im from, we use blue pea flowers as a natural food colouring
NadaMakes. try going to your asian market or your local Chinatown. It might be available there. good luck my friend.