When do you ask for the Canter?!
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Are you clear on when to ask for the canter???
The canter transition is something that MANY horses and riders struggle with! A lot has to happen for the horse to coordinate all 4 legs to go from a 2 beat trot into a 3 beat canter. It is extremely important that you ask for the canter at the right moment so that the horse CAN actually pick up the canter!!!
You must ask for the canter when the outside hind leg is on the ground. The ONLY way that the horse can go from the trot to canter is by pushing off of the outside hind leg and lifting up through their withers and shoulders into the canter.
The best way to get the correct timing for the canter transition is to count to yourself and get in time with the inside front leg. In the trot the inside front and the outside hind leg land at the same time. Since you can actually see the inside shoulder go down it is easiest to get in time with the inside front and this will be the same timing as the outside hind.
If your horse rushes off at the trot or just their head up it could be that you are asking at the wrong moment.
The universal aid for the canter is inside leg at the girth and outside leg behind the girth and weight a little more over the inside seat bone.
Everyone’s aid is a little different and every horse requires a little different set up for the canter. Some horses need more inside leg for the canter transitions and some do the canter transition more from the outside leg. Some horses need you to really set them up for the transition by moving them off the inside leg and into the outside rein. And many horses require a slightly different set up and aid for the left versus the right lead canter!!
This is complicated I know!!
Don’t over think the canter aid. It really is a feel thing and it should get to the point that you are able to feel the right timing for the moment to ask for the canter!
Happy Riding!
Amelia
"If you start over-thinking it, it's going to get worse."
My riding life.
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Never heard to follow the front leg landing. So much easier then feeling the rear leg!! Thank you
Yes... when trotting you can either ask on the outside hind, or the inside fore... (same diagonal), just decide to either hind focus or front end focus, whichever works best for you. (I've taught riding for 30+ years.)
You can also think like this... if you are front end focused, from the trot... ask when front R shoulder is forward (R hoof is up)... or ask when the L shoulder is back (L hoof is down). Ask with your inside leg at girth, outside leg slightly behind girth. Just think about it. You'll get it!! Also, watch this video again. It's the best I've found to teach canter from trot and walk. I send Amelia's videos to my students all the time. She is excellent teacher with excellent videos. Be blessed.
As a trainer and instructor, I am enjoying your sessions and picking up some nice tidbits for teaching! A great trainer isn’t always a great teacher. You do a fantastic job of describing your thoughts and how you achieve the results you are looking for.
Yay!! So glad to hear it is helpful!!
I think I cut out half of my previous comment.. What I meant to say was I don't have my own horses anymore -I'm 71 and still ride but only about once every few weeks but I love watching you. I have ridden English and more recently switched to Western moreso for the instructor. The lesson horses I ride are accomplished cutting and trail horses and they never go on the incorrect lead. I just do that 'kiss' thing and off they go. However I'm going to practice giving the aid as you described. This was a wonderful explanation and so glad you explained how to do it from the walk, as with these quarter horses I ride we almost always go into a lope from a walk. Thanks again xo from Australia
So glad this was helpful! Let me know how it goes!
The association of the rising post with the timing for the canter was gold. It helps to be able to feel without needing to look down at the shoulder as that tends to put me a bit out of position. Another great tip. 👍🐴
Nicely taught
Very interesting!! As soon as it drops a ways below 100 degrees I'm going to work on this!!
Another wonderful tip for riding. Trot trot trot trot trot trot CANTER ! BTW I was helped so much by this month’s workshop on Transitions in “Amelia’s Dressage Academy”. Thanks for teaching online like this !!
You are so welcome!!
so, this video is two years old and still helping people! I have a lovely 4th level horse, new partnership. I am basically a second level rider trying to move up. The walk-canter transition is easy for us, but we sometimes miscommunicate in the trot canter and get a fast, rushing trot instead. Using this video along with the instruction of my excellent trainer got us back on track today! Thank you!
So glad this helped!
SUPER helpful…. you break things down so well… one of very few that do so…..thank you
You're very welcome!
Your instruction..its like seeing light an easy to follow an learn..thank you so much
You are my hero!! My horse has a long back and is in general a big boy so the more I can help him the better. Thank you can't wait to try this out.
Thank you for this information and presenting it so clearly. I have the hardest time asking my horse to pick up the canter and now I know why. I love your videos!
You are so welcome!
Excellent explanation of canter transition and understanding the feel.
Very clear instructions. I think Im finally in an emotional place to finally understand clearly. Now lets put it into practice. Thank you
Let me know how it goes! Thank you for being here!
Very helpful tips. I really like your videos great advise thank you !
Glad to hear you're enjoying them.
This is most helpful, thank you
So helpful, thank you very much
Yes...I didn’t know when to ask
Next lesson tomorrow... yet more things to work on. Thank you Amelia. I'm feeling so much sympathy for my very very patient horse right now... please god I get better at asking appropriately
You will Simon! It's great that you're learning and getting lessons! Thanks for watching and subscribing!
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Dear Simon, I envy you so much for having a very very patient horse... 😊
@@andreapetrovits302 My horse needs to be!! 🤭
Thank you for the easy to understand explanation.
You really break things down very clearly, thank you!
You're very welcome!
Hi Amelia, I think this could be lead to over thinking and tension in the rider. Very helpful to understand, if you get it wrong horse will probably still canter if balanced and set up, like yours, but delay by a stride. I think it’s a feel think as you say, but 90% of success is preparation 😊.
Horses can definitely be forgiving. We are so luck to have them!
Very helpful
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Ok that’s the lot I promise. Have an awesome day! 🐴
This is the most helpful tip I have found, thank you so much!
Yay!! Awesome
We struggle a lot with trot canter transitions and I rather do walk canter transitions because those are much easier for us, so I can't wait to try this out and so if it will become easier for both of us. Thank you so much, video helped me a lot.
It’s very helpful to me. I’v been practicing effectively my legs’ aides, with hands position and good sitting. Now I’ve learned one thing more to get canter on time. Thanks.
Do you struggle with the canter transition? What's your biggest issue?
The main problem for us I think is the active tempo while also focussing on doing the right thing (focussing to much maybe ?). We didn't have this problem before but it started after an injury where my horse had problems to start cantering. I know there is another good video from you about "mistakes while asking for canter" which I watched several times. I think the right timing also might add some confidence, so we'll try that from now on ! Thanks for the instruction !
so helpful! No one has ever explained that to me! Can't wait to practice. Thanks Amelia.
Haha Thanks so much, i'm glad it's helping! And thanks for watching!
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Ok that’s the lot I promise. Have an awesome day! 🐴
Once again Thank you for this video !!!
Merci
Fab thank you x
very Helpful! Thanks
Dianne: on the canter transition, I didn’t hear a verbal cue? Or was it a kick to the side?
Hi Dianne, Great question. You can give a verbal cue a first if it helps your horse pick up the canter, but eventually you want to be able to use your leg aids to give the cue and not have to use your voice. The canter aid is inside leg at the girth, outside leg slightly behind the girth. If you give these aids, and your horse doesn't respond, then you could give a verbal cue if needed. Also, make sure to check that you gave the aids at the correct moment. Here is another video that might be helpful: ua-cam.com/video/4n8RE5Ybqv0/v-deo.html
I don’t have a horse but some of the horses I am on we ask to pick up canter in a corner but I was on a speedy horse and he was like let scare Charlotte and into canter he went hahaha x
This has helped, I tend to over think how far to put the outside leg to far back and still bumping him. It looks like your holding your leg until he canters then start bumping again. Is that correct?
HI Amy, I bring the leg back to given the aid and then leg them hang down again.
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In addition to the leg position, Is there que given with your reins and wrists ( slightly turn or twist your wrist) when asking for the canter transition..
Amelia, it was a great teaching because I finally understood when I need to ask for canter😊!!! Funny and I loved it that your horse will get it right anyway❤! Is it difficult to go from posting trot to canter?
Glad it was helpful!
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How do you get to canter on the straight without an arena ?
Why not just say that keep track of when the inside frontleg lands (trot and walk), give the aid? That's how I learned, to me it's the easiest and most visual way, just don't lean forward when looking? 😊
You've got it!
Very instructive! Thank you!!
Your horse is a bit too well trained to give examples of " mistakes ", that's a complement:)
I just cantered with my very scared mare today, she normally gets really stressed when I ask her to canter, now I'm so excited to start strengthening her 😍
That’s rlly good xx
I've learned (via Felicitas Von Neumann-Cosel, I think?), that if you need to post the trot into canter to sit twice (2 bounces/2 strides) so your seat is in the saddle on the 2nd bounce to ask for the canter at the right moment. Just wanted to add as an option in addition to the great description of feel and timing that Amelia has in this video.
I've heard this two but didn't realize it set up the timing of your aids! Thanks for connecting those dots! 💡
I learned the same thing.
Do you ask for canter with your outside leg behind the girth the same time you sit your 2nd bounce, or after the 2nd bounce? Thanks!
Wow, I'm 46 and I NEVER KNEW this! I so wished riding was taught properly and not in the so often "mystical"/cryptic way 😝!! Thanks heaps Amelia for demystify it more with every video!
I second that!!
Amelia the best on the internet at explaining how to communicate with a horse!!..
I over-think it all the time; You have described exactly what I am doing wrong - thank you!
Yay!!
Nice Amelia ! If we could help our horses be in balance with their movements and know it before ask for any transition will be great for both ! I live in Brazil and even my focus is jump I would like to thank you for your videos. They really make me feel more confident!
I can’t wait to get to the barn to try this lesson on my horse. Always exciting to learn from you Amelia.👏🏻🙌
Wonderful!
I was always told to keep my legs on, I see your legs bumping him throughout your ride.
My Gaited horse is lateral so need to get that timing down
Best tip ever! Thank U
Learned from you: First count, then feel, and then stop thinking.
Haha! Yes!
So when you change from rising trot to sitting trot, do you apply your outside leg aid behind the girth when you sit your trot at odd or even number? I’m always confused if I should use my leg aid on the 2nd or the 3rd bounce. I suppose it’s the odd number because it’s when the outside hind leg begin to step forward? Appreciate if you can explain this 🙏🏻
Hi Vicky,
You are thinking on the right track. You want to ask for the canter when you would be posting up if you were rising the trot. When you are sitting the trot, look for the outside front leg to come forward (inside hind will be on the ground) and give your canter aid then.
When I’m riding a young horse in rising tort (rather rarely in a sitting trot since he is really not ready for - not having good enough contact on the bit and not so supple in the swinging back) it is demanding sometimes to do smooth transition into canter for me, especially a few first transitions. His outside hind leg is on the ground while I am in the rising position, so in the next sequence I sit in the saddle and I stay one more bit with aids to canter (while his outside hind leg is again on the ground). But sometimes I feel like I am pushing him into rushing instead of into canter. I feel that time his back is not supple enough, so my staying in the saddle is immediately impacting him, but also this impacts quality of my aids unfortunately. Then, more transitions we do during the training we are getting better and better. The less smooth are always the first transitions during the training. I am patiently working on this but do you have some additional suggestions for this on the young horse? Thank you.
Hi Michal,
Good question! You might try putting him in a little shoulder fore when you ask or asking as you are spiraling out on a circle. Here are a couple videos that might be helpful: ua-cam.com/video/nlm1NS5tedY/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/r9_pwi7a9qU/v-deo.html
This was very helpful! I'm trained as a dancer so understanding where the horse's weight is at and where the power for the movement comes from made so much sense! I feel like this is something I can easily practice to build my riding partnership. Thank you!
You're so welcome!
Amelia, I just tried this at my lesson tonight and it was a massive lightbulb moment. My horse just "clicked" right into the canter and didn't rush or anything. He was then super excited to keep cantering and wanted to do more upward transitions! It was like snapping together a puzzle piece! It was incredible! Thank you so much!!
You're so welcome!
When your horse inverts at the ask for the canter what is the best aid to recover that inversion?
Hi there thanks for watching!
If your horse is inverting at the canter, try thinking about this checklist once you're in the canter.
1. Step one is always the leg. You have to get the horse moving forward before asking the horse to get round. It is very important that you have a “self going” horse meaning that once you get them going forward at a certain speed, they stay at that speed until you tell them to slow down. (Think cruise control for horses.)
2. Establish a steady contact - this means that you have a light but steady pressure between your hand and the horses mouth (6-12 ounces). You want to feel each corner of the horses mouth and your arm should be elastic and following the motion of the horses’ neck. Especially in the walk and in the canter, you elbow slightly bends and straightens. A straight arm or a stiff elbow causes unsteady contact. This is quite uncomfortable for the horse!
3. Close the inside leg and push the horse softly off of the inside leg and into the outside rein. With the inside rein, squeeze and release the fingers. It is very important to always start with just using your fingers and wrist to supple the horse before going to the elbow. This will help to get the horse more sensitive and soft in the mouth.
Also this video might help you in the cater transition.
ua-cam.com/video/AxFJ5P1nXeU/v-deo.html
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Brilliant! Really great video and tips, makes so much sense, can't wait to use them this weekend, I've been having trouble with a horse striking off on the wrong leg. Thank you! 😊
So helpful. Thank you. I always thought it would be difficult for me to know when outside hind was on the ground, but so much easier concentrating on the front inside leg.
Glad it was helpful!
My horse used to rush at the trot. I also have a horse that sometimes lunges in the canter. The horse the used to rush has gotten stronger and I have also developed as a rider so she can pick up canter easily. The mare that lunges into the canter is getting better with time and work. Thank you for sharing!
Love it! This helps a rider develop the illusive “feel” with some practical directions. Nice!
Omg so helpful. Thank you for these videos. As a green rider I appreciate them more than you know
You're so welcome!
Thank you. Brilliant video ! Looking forward to the workshop. Thanks so much Amelia
I'm a beginner but when I ask for canter with my legs, I lose my stirrups eventually, because my legs get stiff and then I lose my rhythm and start to bounce. Is there a way to use legs in a more light and relaxed way? XD
I found that losing stirrups when asking for canter - you may be pitched forward when you're asking for canter and/or you're putting your outside leg way too far back when asking, which can also throw off your balance.
I also find that thinking about stomping through your heels on the 1st beat of the 3 beat canter really helps with maintaining the rhythm.The "1" beat being as your swooshing forward along the saddle
@@myh7569 thank you that was very informative!
Thank you for the focus on this. I struggle with the timing with a resulting trot into the canter, inversion of his head with his ears pinned or sometimes he even flips his rump up and kicks out. When I get the timing right, it is a fairly nice canter transition. You are awesome. Thanks
This explains why at times if feels the canter transition is smoother. I must be asking for it at the right moment by accident. I have to remember this and practice. Thank you so much for the instructions, very helpful!
I was listening to a few of your videos during my rides this am and they were very helpful. I couldn’t comment on each one because I was riding. Even tho I couldn’t see ur illustrations on the horse I still got a great deal out of them because in every video there were things I could learn! Ur details are very valuable, things my coach doesn’t tell me, but are very important to improve my ride. Thanks so very much’
Yay!!
Hi Amelia. I found that advise on timing really helpful. Thanks.
Thank you, I'm working at Second/Third level and one of my struggles is getting my mare to understand the correct lead on straight lines from the walk. I'll try this tip to see if better timing helps, thank you!
Different coloured bandages on the different diagonals would help with following the legs. Thanks.
Thanks for getting me on the right track.👍
lol so well trained they don't evenknow how to go onto the incorrect lead. I have the same thing with my western lesson horses.
Its tricky since I ride a Tennessee Walking horse.
Very good video, technical and clearly explained.
love the "feeling" the inside front & outside hind" on the ground. This is a great riding tip. Can I ask, what does it mean if a horse is not balanced in the canter?
When a horse is not balanced they are on the forehand and either rushing or breaking to the trot. The feeling is not good!
Super - I'm currently working on this feel - great tips !
Thank you so much for the clear explanation! I know timing is really important when you ask for anything from your horse. I am struggling with the half pass's timing for both canter and trot. Is there anyone struggling with the same problem QAQ?
Thank you!!!! I really need this. I’m struggling with asking for the canter at the right time. I can’t wait to give this a try ☺️
You got this!
My instructor always says "right legggg..NOW" and I finally get why 😂
Love ❤️ this.
Something to practice.
So helpful thank you!!!😊
Very Good explanation
awesome
Thank you , I've never thought about this , now it seems so obvious. It's interesting to hear such tips for back transition from canter to the trot
Glad it was helpful!
why my horse head is not in my control while riding.pls guide me
Thank you! I will try this at my next lesson. I have been having trouble with timing the last few lessons after doing it much better a couple of weeks ago. I think I am over thinking it versus just feeling it like before.
Thank you for this clear, helpful explanation! I am heading out to try it with confidence.
Well he did it right when I was wrong! I love that! Sign of a well trained pony! Thanks for the tips! I'm always trying not to overthink and over ride! 🙃 our walk canter is definitely better and the canter walk has improved but can still go a bit south with out perfect timing on my part! He can do it, but it just isn't correct!
Ye make it look SOOO easy lady :)
Yes really helpful
I really like the attention to inside front leg during walk to canter transition ❣
dear Amelia, I am from Holland, so exuse me if the word are not correctly. So I ask the right time for the canter. When the inside front leg lands on the ground, I give the aid for cater. You said: now, now, now, canter! So at the moment you said "canter" you give the aid? because I think I am to late. Thank you
Yes! Watch the video again and look for that
Hello Amelia. Do You have recommandations about how to become from a trot to stop without walking steps?
Best regards,
Gerda
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Today your explanation on how to count the trot off the front inside, and the connection to the back diagonal pair, but keeping the focus on the front inside for the count, to give the canter cue was instrumental for me…. I have struggle for years over thinking it and struggling to get it…. To the point after years I still don’t canter…. I’m feeling like today might be the day to try the counting…. Next week I just might cue the canter if all works well today. It clicked in my mind today…. I have a small cob size older horse that other can canter so I is my overthinking that has prevented us cantering more than about 20 steps in 12 years. Thanks for helping me make the connection in my mind.
Yay! Glad it was helpful!
I have a 25 yr old quarter horse who has never gotten comfortable at the canter. Do you think I should even try to work on the canter or just be happy with his beautiful trot?
That's totally up to you and what you're looking to do! If you're happy with just trotting, there is no need to canter :)
Thanks for the tip I ride a reining horse and probably am asking on wrong timing cause her head goes up( which reiners usually carry a low head set) I will try this new tip tomorrow am excited to see it work 😉
Glad to help!
This is fantastic! Nobody has ever told me about this before! Thanks!
Happy to help!
do you look at the inside shoulder or can you feel it?
I know when I come down from canter to rising trot I always land on the correct diagonal (which I used to use as an indicator that I had the correct lead ;) )
Both!
My horse junior he takes off at the trot too fast so I try to stop him or just go straight to the walk and then I start again
Try turning him in a small circle until he slows down. This video might help: ua-cam.com/video/tY4WDG47Xg0/v-deo.html
Nice technical description that will be very useful 🙏🏼🤗
Glad it was helpful!