Great video. Just a small correction: you don’t need to press the jump button when you hit the ground to perform the drop dash, you can just hold down the jump button as soon as you started your jump to do it
Thank you, also that's fair 😅. Whenever I would jump I'd hold the button till right before I hit the ground most of the time and would only get it to happen once and a while, so that would make much more sense.
The silent story telling is the exact same silent story telling sonic 3 e k had, it's as confusing as it is in sonic mania. If you wanted to know the story you had to read the manual or, nowadays, search on the internet. I don't think it's a bad thing tho, it's faithful.
I get what you mean about the story but the main reason people were excited for this game is because we haven't gotten this type of gameplay in 23 years and it was a anniversary for classic sonic. And also sonic 3 and knuckles has a better story in my opinion even though it's also simple. Classic sonic stories aren't really supposed to be all that complicated so it doesn't really matter.
That's definitely fair. I started with Unleashed so I've always had voice acting and boosting in my games till like last year when I played Adventure 2 for this channel.
Video has potential, I was pretty frustrated by the title because I never picked up on what game mania fixed, also Lost world and 06 are nothing alike and don't even share the same issues.
I completely agree. I do enjoy the 3d ones (specifically the first Unleashed one being my favorite of them), but I think the 2d animations in Mania and Origins are just better. It was definitely a missed opportunity for the movies and Prime as well imo.
Lost World isn't as bad as Sonic 06 in any definition. They're complete opposites. Sonic 06 is fundamentally broken and too ambitious for its own good, failing and almost every turn. Lost World is technically sound, and accomplishes exactly what it sets out to do. A lot of people just didn't like what it set out to do. On its own it's a solid 7/10. Both have pretty bad stories though. Again, for complete opposite reasons.
I think the main issue people have with it is they removed the other ports of the Sonic trilogy on Steam which in my opinion are better when you factor in Steam workshop content. That is the one I personally use because I can play as Big the Cat.
@@UsingGorillaLogic I agree the removal sucks, though I still prefer Origins. Also, I don't factor in mods/fan remasters when it comes to best versions as that's honestly cheating
@@gengargamer5657 its "cheating" but if you can get a 30/40 dollar game for completely free with sonic 1 forever, 2 absolute, 3 AIR and either the 2011 port or a decomp of the 2011 port with just needing a file or two for each game, i'd just play the (may i mind you BETTER versions) fan remasters.
I'm suped confused by what you mean by fixing the worst game and a little bit of a critique in my opinion it's kind of unfair to compare 3rd sonic games to 2d and especially when some of them are ones that came out after sonic mania and from what I've heard sonic lost world is kind of a underrated gem and def not as glitchy as sonic boom or 06 and it's really fun on steam but outside of that really good vid keep it up
First, thank you. Next, fixed the worst game (kinda) refers to Mania's story just fixing some of the issues I had with Forces, cause obviously I didn't play this one first, and you basically need it for some of that game's story to make any kind of sense. Lastly, while it may be unfair to compare 2d and 3d games on paper, saying that "judging the ones after Mania off of that game is unfair" doesn't make much sense, because I'd argue you almost need to compare them. Forces used classic Sonic, and his gameplay was the most disappointing in that game by far. The reason Adventure and Adventure 2 were as good as they were was because they used ideas and characters from the 2d games and improved on them in 3d. Saying that the 3d games can't learn and improve based on a 2d's story, animation style, and gameplay is just short sighted.
@ShadyPst First thank you and finally what your saying is def true 3d games can learn from 2d games but what I'm really talking about is like you said art styles be different but with 2d games and 3d games there's certain limitations with both and the games have different mechanics and physics there's only like 6 2d sonic games that have boost. While there are plenty 3d games with it. 2d sonic games mechanic for each is to gain speed by using springs and stuff while 3d uses boost 2d games let's you play with more characters then just sonic there's only 3 3d games that allow you to play as someone rather than sonic sorry if I sound nitpicky but that all I have to say.
Can you be more specific? Cause i'm assuming you're either a Forces fan, 06 fan, or Lost World fan and don't like that I made a passing comment at your favorite game, or you dislike that I said Mario was better. I know this sounds cocky, but I'm legitimately curious and don't know how else to say it...
@@ShadyPst nope nope and nope I mean I like things from thoses games but not really a big fan of either just a general sonic fan who’s kind of tired of of people talking shit to a series I like when majority of the games are good. I don’t really care about the Mario statement because it true but I don’t really care because most series aren’t like Mario.
@@Therealones745 Ok, that's fair. I haven't played Lost World, 06 or Boom so those were just general information I have from hearing other people talk about them. Otherwise I only dislike forces because it's just not a fun game imo. Every other game I've played so far for the most part I've enjoyed. If that makes it any type of better
@@ShadyPst honestly dont know why the other guy took it so personally. I mean to each their own i guess. As a big sonic fan, i understand the series is VERY inconsistent in terms of quality, even if i end up liking most games in the series. Great video man, seems like you put out a lot of quality content too, new subscriber here 😎👍
@@ninjdraw8305 I get it for sure. I love the Spider-Man games and movies so hearing someone talk shit about them is a hard pill to swallow, till I realize they're right sometimes 😓😅. Thank you though, I really appreciate it ❤!
the fact knuckles had nothing to do with the story but got dragged in is funny asf😭😭
Yeah 😅
Great video. Just a small correction: you don’t need to press the jump button when you hit the ground to perform the drop dash, you can just hold down the jump button as soon as you started your jump to do it
Thank you, also that's fair 😅. Whenever I would jump I'd hold the button till right before I hit the ground most of the time and would only get it to happen once and a while, so that would make much more sense.
The silent story telling is the exact same silent story telling sonic 3 e k had, it's as confusing as it is in sonic mania. If you wanted to know the story you had to read the manual or, nowadays, search on the internet. I don't think it's a bad thing tho, it's faithful.
Comparing lost world to 06 is outrageous 😭
Fans of both games don't help then, cause they give off that impression to outsiders.
@@ShadyPst They're nothing alike
I get what you mean about the story but the main reason people were excited for this game is because we haven't gotten this type of gameplay in 23 years and it was a anniversary for classic sonic. And also sonic 3 and knuckles has a better story in my opinion even though it's also simple. Classic sonic stories aren't really supposed to be all that complicated so it doesn't really matter.
That's definitely fair. I started with Unleashed so I've always had voice acting and boosting in my games till like last year when I played Adventure 2 for this channel.
The sound at the beginning was a mistake, but it doesn't change enough for me to reupload it so I'm just gonna leave it 🙃...
Video has potential, I was pretty frustrated by the title because I never picked up on what game mania fixed, also Lost world and 06 are nothing alike and don't even share the same issues.
hello love your content! Keep it up man 🤙
Thank you! I really appreciate it ❤, and don't plan to give up any time soon.
I don't know about you but i prefer the 2D animated cutscenes as opposed to the 3D ones were used to these days.
I completely agree. I do enjoy the 3d ones (specifically the first Unleashed one being my favorite of them), but I think the 2d animations in Mania and Origins are just better. It was definitely a missed opportunity for the movies and Prime as well imo.
Your channel is really underrated. Also, I subscribed.
Thank you, I really appreciate it ❤!
Honestly, I decided to get Mania Plus for my PS5 after 3 years when first got Mania on the Switch. It’s still up to now a fun game.
I'm not a huge 2d sonic fan from what I've played, so this one was much better than I expected.
@@ShadyPst I understand. 👍🏿
Lost World isn't as bad as Sonic 06 in any definition. They're complete opposites. Sonic 06 is fundamentally broken and too ambitious for its own good, failing and almost every turn. Lost World is technically sound, and accomplishes exactly what it sets out to do. A lot of people just didn't like what it set out to do. On its own it's a solid 7/10.
Both have pretty bad stories though. Again, for complete opposite reasons.
Origins is actually pretty good and didn't do all that badly.
I think the main issue people have with it is they removed the other ports of the Sonic trilogy on Steam which in my opinion are better when you factor in Steam workshop content. That is the one I personally use because I can play as Big the Cat.
@@UsingGorillaLogic I agree the removal sucks, though I still prefer Origins. Also, I don't factor in mods/fan remasters when it comes to best versions as that's honestly cheating
@@gengargamer5657 its "cheating" but if you can get a 30/40 dollar game for completely free with sonic 1 forever, 2 absolute, 3 AIR and either the 2011 port or a decomp of the 2011 port with just needing a file or two for each game, i'd just play the (may i mind you BETTER versions) fan remasters.
I'm suped confused by what you mean by fixing the worst game and a little bit of a critique in my opinion it's kind of unfair to compare 3rd sonic games to 2d and especially when some of them are ones that came out after sonic mania and from what I've heard sonic lost world is kind of a underrated gem and def not as glitchy as sonic boom or 06 and it's really fun on steam but outside of that really good vid keep it up
First, thank you. Next, fixed the worst game (kinda) refers to Mania's story just fixing some of the issues I had with Forces, cause obviously I didn't play this one first, and you basically need it for some of that game's story to make any kind of sense. Lastly, while it may be unfair to compare 2d and 3d games on paper, saying that "judging the ones after Mania off of that game is unfair" doesn't make much sense, because I'd argue you almost need to compare them. Forces used classic Sonic, and his gameplay was the most disappointing in that game by far. The reason Adventure and Adventure 2 were as good as they were was because they used ideas and characters from the 2d games and improved on them in 3d. Saying that the 3d games can't learn and improve based on a 2d's story, animation style, and gameplay is just short sighted.
@ShadyPst First thank you and finally what your saying is def true 3d games can learn from 2d games but what I'm really talking about is like you said art styles be different but with 2d games and 3d games there's certain limitations with both and the games have different mechanics and physics there's only like 6 2d sonic games that have boost. While there are plenty 3d games with it. 2d sonic games mechanic for each is to gain speed by using springs and stuff while 3d uses boost 2d games let's you play with more characters then just sonic there's only 3 3d games that allow you to play as someone rather than sonic sorry if I sound nitpicky but that all I have to say.
You lost me in the beginning 😒
Can you be more specific? Cause i'm assuming you're either a Forces fan, 06 fan, or Lost World fan and don't like that I made a passing comment at your favorite game, or you dislike that I said Mario was better. I know this sounds cocky, but I'm legitimately curious and don't know how else to say it...
@@ShadyPst nope nope and nope I mean I like things from thoses games but not really a big fan of either just a general sonic fan who’s kind of tired of of people talking shit to a series I like when majority of the games are good. I don’t really care about the Mario statement because it true but I don’t really care because most series aren’t like Mario.
@@Therealones745 Ok, that's fair. I haven't played Lost World, 06 or Boom so those were just general information I have from hearing other people talk about them. Otherwise I only dislike forces because it's just not a fun game imo. Every other game I've played so far for the most part I've enjoyed. If that makes it any type of better
@@ShadyPst honestly dont know why the other guy took it so personally. I mean to each their own i guess.
As a big sonic fan, i understand the series is VERY inconsistent in terms of quality, even if i end up liking most games in the series.
Great video man, seems like you put out a lot of quality content too, new subscriber here 😎👍
@@ninjdraw8305 I get it for sure. I love the Spider-Man games and movies so hearing someone talk shit about them is a hard pill to swallow, till I realize they're right sometimes 😓😅. Thank you though, I really appreciate it ❤!