The Brand New Tudor Black Bay 41 M7941A1A0RU-0003 VS Omega Seamaster DIVER 300M 210.30.42.20.03.001
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In my opinion, a retail price difference of 2050€ means that the two watches are not in the same price category. Especially as it is difficult to get a significant discount on the Seamaster Pro.
A discount on the Omega is actually quite common what I read online. But you are right: there is quite a price gap between these two pieces.
In the past it wasn’t a problem to get a discount of up to 30% on Omega watches. At least here in Germany this has changed. With popular models, like e.g. Seamaster and Speedmaster, you get often not more than 10% maximum.
I think it's pretty obvious Rolex is positing Tudor as a defensive piece against encroachers like Omega to the Rolex brand. They don't want the public comparing Rolex to other brands. Rolex is supposed to stand alone. With these new in-house movements, etc. to the Tudor brand, I think it's deliberate to position Omega in the market against Tudor and not Rolex. I think that's also why Tudor is priced how it is. If their ploy works and public perception is that Omega and Tudor are competitors (and not Omega/Rolex), it may also force Omega to lower their prices -- even further distancing public perception of Omega vs Rolex.
I have these two exact watches and love them both
Excellent comparison, thanks 👍🏼
Thank you sir!
Tudor for me.. more of a general purpose looking watch that can be dressed up and down depending on the day
i got the tudor yday after waiting since march when the release was announced, im pleased with it, quality is as expected with tudor. high end watch overall
Congratulations!
Tudor is a fake Rolex 😂😂😂
@@SIZZO76got my Black Bay on the rubber band yesterday as well.
I do have four Rolex as well (GMT Vintage, GMT Sprite, Milgauss and Datejust) and must say that the Tudor is a fantastic watch and is definitely not a “Rolex fake”. Quality is great and the improvements and new movement in the new model are amazing for the price. A sub for 2-3x the money would not be 2-3 times better imho.
@@Fashiongadget Tudor is a basic watch and it is overrated and if you buy Tudor you are still buying from Rolex and give them your money 😂😂😂😂😂
@@SIZZO76…ah, you again…😂😂😂 fake watch enthusiast! Still drinking too much…
Great comparison! About the screws on the bracelet - I tried this myself on the Tudor Ranger, but gave up and went to my AD (who did if for free), the screws were just sitting too tight for me. Looking at the scratches at 13:25, it looks like you (or your AD) also needed to give it a few tries :) So I would always let my AD do it, unless you really know what you’re doing.
Thank you. I agree with letting the AD size it 😉
The Seamaster uses loctite on the screws. I took a cup of hot water from my coffee maker and dipped the bracelet into the hot H20 to soften the loctite.
@@chuckgladfelteryup. Just using hot water. I ran my BB54’s bracelet under hot tap water. Did the trick
I like the retro look of the Tudor and the red bezel is beautiful. I still prefer the Omega. The bigger size suits my wrist better. Plus I love the coaxial escapement.
Nice video. 👍🏽
If I were going diving, I would choose the Omega. I am never going diving. This Tudor color combination all the way. Especially with the jubilee bracelet, I would love to see the bracelet be S&G and the hands/indices use gold to match.
I have both. The omega in Black>
Tudor is a great watch VERY solid. The jubilee feels very good.
Now the omega watch is simply superior. The laser waves, the finishes, there is just much more going on and it all feels luxurious and better.
Both are great. The Omega is better but for more money :)
I have the omega on the white dial and I love it. But I’m also considering this Tudor but I also want the Speedmaster moon watch and the Grand Seiko snowflake, I don’t know which one to get first lol
I love that white dial version. Those other watches are also great. I would recommend the one that you will wear the most 👌🏻
Same here. I got a white Seamaster 300M. I bought a Sapphire Sandwich Moon Watch last week for a birthday present. This watch was on my list next to an IWC Mark XX. I strolled into the local Tudor boutique two days ago and they just got one in. Tried it on and loved it and bought it. The bracelet is comfortable. I had to change the Seamaster out for a NATO.
Comparing retail price to retail price, this Tudor is amazing. I say this because the gray market offers Seamaster for the same price as the retail price of the Tudor.
@wisith I know these prices of the Omega can be lower than retail. Discount on a Tudor is rare though.
@@GadgetsforGentlemen yep. That’s why I said comparing retail prices. My AD said they can’t do discounts on Tudor anymore and I happily paid retail for my last week.
@wisith Have fun with your new timepiece! I am saving up for the BB58 blue on the fabric strap 😁
That’s a close contest, it’s the bracelet that lets the Omega sown plus it’s too big, so by default I’d have to go with the Tudor.
I just consider Rolex, Omega, Tudor not as value holder but what can I get for my money. As one wise man told me really rich guys who can afford favorite watch never analyze it’s holding value. Rolex in most of cases is good deal and investment field but you should agree we arent always choosing smth with expense rationality.
For example I very like Tag Heuer Chronograph design on Heuer 2 calibre. When I purchase it I clearly realise that it’s not classy 39-40mm, 45mm instead, that Heuer is slightly modified ETA, that I can trade it no more than half of value. I mean all we love aestethics, emotions which watches can gift us when we owning them.
In summary, I should state IMHO that Tudor has more everyday wrist time in comparison with Rolex and Omega. Because it’s not shiny, under the radar piece but well-built which causes calm and steady wearing on every day basis.
Thanks for sharing your perspective! I am going to throw my new BB58 on a simple NATO just for that: a low key, lightweight everyday pretty beater.
@@GadgetsforGentlemen nice approach! Do You experience any spoil of NATO strap during swimming or diving?
@djamshidabdumajitov995 what do you mean precisely?
I have the Exact Omega but wanted to get the same Tudor but now I see the markers look very close I changed my mind.
Glad this video helped you 😀
Tudor is a poor man’s Rolex 😂😂😂
@@SIZZO76…man, you have an issue…😂😂😂 did your father work for Tudor and got fired? 🤔 😂
@@fragu123 TUDOR FANBOYS ATE SO SENSITIVE 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂TUDOR IS STILL A FAKE ROLEX 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@SIZZO76 Tudor is Toyota, Rolex is Lexus, Patek is Bentley
I own both, black bay with the rubber strap and the seamaster 300 green version, the seamaster is clearly the better watch, that said the black bay is fantastic value for the money.
Their is no contest here it’s Omega the much better watch
I hate the omega bracelet, the lack of a taper is a huge oversight, however I'd buy a dive watch on a rubber strap 9/10 times.
Omega! Wish they’d make a 38 to 40mm Seamaster though
That would be great!
I'd rather see a 37mm version with a flush He valve. We need a midsize ladies can enjoy too, while not being too small for men.
Tudor is a fake Rolex 😂😂😂
@@SIZZO76😂😂😂 watch uninterested person spotted!
Both I’d say. You can then rotate them as your daily watches.
Great point!
I own a Black Bay 54 and a Speedmaster. I think an Omega feels a little bit better than a Tudor. Rolex a little bit better than an Omega. But when it comes to value for money, Tudor all the way - great watches!
summer looking like winter in NL is not that unusual...
Ok people!!! Here we go Tudor vs Omega first. Who has the longer power reserve!!! Know the bracelet witch one is better you think. Know price point witch one is better!!!! know add it up and you you tell me which one is really better. Right know. Thank you Tudor keep doing what your doing. Omega change your bracelet and the power reserve and the the size. Your done Omega. Change everything come back to come pair. Thank you.
Got the METAS BBB in oyster bracelet at USD3K BRAND NEW 😊
How did you do that? Congratulations!
@@GadgetsforGentlemen from AD profile builders
What’s thatv
@@kelvin.008 how?
I picked my 41mm black bay for ~2200€ brand new at AD back in 2018 😅 and this one almost doubled at retail
The inflation is insane. On the other hand the new 41 has some sought after improvements including a fantastic movement, thinner case, great bezel grip and great strap options.
The thicker one?
To me, the Tudor looks way better. I prefer the size of the BB too. Now, with the Master Chronometer and the T Fit, it's just pure perfection.
I prefer the Tudor. I don't like ceramic bezel on the Omega and in my opinion, except the clasp, the bracelet is awful.
Many thanks for the video.
Thanks for your feedback!
Tudor is a fake Rolex 😂😂😂
@@SIZZO76 Answer as a sheep.
@@nachovalenti Tudor fanboy spotted 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Agree. I have a blue 300m and the blue bezel 41mm Tudor and like the Tudor bracelet much better.
Tudor is a good brand but it is not in the same league as Omega. Lets keep it that way.
Tudor Black Bay 41 Burgundy all day everyday. These two may be comparable in quality etc, but are absolutely different in price category. Making Tudor the absolute best value for the money 💴 💵 hands down. Tudor will always be hard to beat when comparing apples 🍎 🍏 to apples, the company simply offers the best value and watch enthusiasts understand this 😎
It's just submariner hommage... No value.
@@tomislavm2873 When overpaid Rolex guys try to convince themselves why they paid 4x price for the same 70hr movement and 200 meters diving :) except better polished bracelet Rolex cannot give any extra value.
I have this SMP and only negative part about it to me is non-tapering bracelet with sharp edges
Honestly for those reasons (and the added weight) I wear it most often on a NATO strap 😆
Bracelet is iconic
@Alexpress81
That's why I bought a Foster Bracelet at the aftermarket for my white Dial SMP. IT has this 'bullet bracelet look' like the Speedmaster and it tapers and feels very well on my wrist.
But the original rubber strap from Omega is also extremely well made
I have these 2 watches in my AD. After Compared side by side I'm pretty sure Omega Seamaster is the outstanding whereby higher level with Tudor BB41. I don't like the Tudor SS Bezel . The only thing that can be convince me Tudor Five-link stainless steel bracelet is stunning !!
Agreed. The jubilee bracelet is outstanding!
Never heard of a “jumping” minute hand on a chronograph sub dial timer, so don’t know where you got that from. Would have been nice if you’d mentioned it is a cam operated chronograph movement as opposed to a column wheel. I have had two Spirit Chronographs from Longines, both of which have failed. They won’t give me a refund as the original was purchased from an AD (CW Sellors who are a waste of time regarding after sales.
I did not find your review informative in any way for anyone who is serious about watches and knows their subject. Sorry!🙁
Thanks for your feedback!
Is tudor use the same Steel as Rolex?
No. The grade of steel of Rolex is different.
Rolex is 904L and Tudor is 316L, 904 is a harder steel
Tudor costs half of the Omega! But i like the Tudor Black Bay Red ❤ and After i Buy the Tudor Black Bay 58 🖤
Not quiet a Seamaster 300M is $5900 and the Tudor is about $4500 not sure where you got half
@@ChrisPsRants I have found it used in Italy By a privat watch collector in very Good condition with box and papers
I’ve got both and I love both pieces so much but The Omega’s quality is two levels higher (doesn’t mean The Tudor is poor made)
Tudor sexy watch
I am seriously in plans of purchasing one of these, but in this review, the omega looks so much better in every single aspect. i guess the final veredict will be when i try them in my wrist
The SEAMASTER is better. Tudor is a poor man’s Rolex 😂😂😂😂
@@SIZZO76 👀🤐👀🤐, the new Tudor black Bay 41 is really something tbh
Yes and in hous muwment so when somthing brakes you are broke:) only I don't like most Omegas cos they have Eta 2892-A2 like I in my micro brand and too mee is why I'm paying that watch . Also I won't too buy 10 ares ago same Omea Bond and I didn't, but Tudor newe realise I'm buying. Its beutiful.
@@k9teamzagrebskolazapse149 Tudor is basic 😂😂😂😂
@@SIZZO76if you’ve never owned both or at the very least, tried both of them on, then you have no clue WTF you’re talking about. I personally own Rolex, Tudor and Omega, and I also own both the Seamaster and this new Tudor BB on the jubilee. I hands down prefer the Tudor over the Omega, but also appreciate both of them.
How are these at the same price? One retails for 4,440 EURO and the other 6,400 EURO - that's nearly 2000 EURO difference.
Agreed. However, you can pick up a used Omega SMP300 for much less second hand.
And Omega haw mech like watches from micro brands wich cost 1000€ I hawe one for work 2892-A2 and I seen Omega for 6,000€ which is yust too much for same Eta ok litle upgrade.
Not comparable at all....omega price second hand is similar to tudor that's all..
Agreed! I must say I bought the Omega when I was about to buy a Tudor Black Bay 58. When I bought it the price difference wasn’t as great as it is today. Now the retail prices differ about €2000.
Seamaster is better guys. Both have pros & cons but these aren't comparable. Id buy the Tudor but if the SM got rid of the wart and upgraded the bracelet id go for that instead
Technically the Omega is a better watch but aesthetically the Tudor is the winner
Interesting!
Wow! Your conclusion Is in fact interesting
Tudor is a fake Rolex 😂😂😂
SEAMASTER is the better looking watch
Agree.
I own both these watches, the Seamaster is better. But there isn't much in it.
Tudor is a fake Rolex 😂😂😂
@@SIZZO76Tudor is better than Omega right know think before you say anything.
@@jdmtl1041 Tudor fanboy spotted 😂😂😂😂😂You Sound delusional 😂😂😂😂😂
@@SIZZO76 think before you comment buddy I work on watches!!!
@@jdmtl1041 Sure you do😂😂😂😂 Tudor is still a poor man’s Rolex 😂😂😂😂😂
The Tudor is great but the Omega SMP300 is definitely a better more refined watch, plus it has a legacy that Tudor just doesnt. Both are great options but the Omega wins for me
Thanks. Would you please elaborate a more why you think the Omega is a better watch in terms of movement and so on?
@@GadgetsforGentlemen OK so I have a 41mm black bay heritage and the SMP300 and yes the movement is better and the Omega specs on paper seem better but the differences are really the feel in the wrist and the presence of the watch in your hand which you can never really show properly in an review online. You can only experience these for yourself. For instance the Ginault Ocean Rover 2 seems to have an identical bracelet to a 20mm Oyster bracelet found on a Rolex Submariner or Explorer etc. Same weight, same dimensions, same level of polishing that to the viewer on UA-cam would make them seem identical. However as nice as the Ginault is, the Rolex is just nicer and feels much better to wear - nothing to do with the branding. Same with Omega and Tudor. Tudor are great watches, heck I own 2 of them, but Omega are better in small but vital ways.
Thanks for your elaborate response! I love my Omega SMP300. I have been thinking about getting the BB58 blue on the fabric strap. What are your thoughts?
@@GadgetsforGentlemen hey no worries. The BB58 is a massively popular watch for good reason as they are brilliant watches for the money. The blue on blue strap is a killer combo and you won't be disappointed if you try it on. I suspect you will love it and if you can afford it, then buy it. I reckon it will figure heavily in your rotation if you do get it. A superb watch.
Thanks a lot! I am thinking of having it as my second watch. My first watch is the SMP300 black on steel bracelet. Going to save for it by letting go of some
more affordable watches 😉
Die seamaster is wel wat groot voor je polsje he hahaha
Klopt 🤣
People respect you more if you wear Omega and Rolex.
It's literally sad if you need a watch for people to respect you.
What a strange comment
I hate the Omega wart. 200 meters is way more than enough. I want at least 70 hour power reserve on a luxury watch.
I’d rather have the wart than the ugliest hour hand in watch history.
@@Mr-Merchant.I agree 😂 Tudor is a fake Rolex 😂😂😂
Omega looks like a big metall junk
@@stevensteven3417 Tudor fanboy spotted 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@stevensteven3417 Omega is built better, fact. UA-cam Tudor issues, then do it for Omega. Sold all my Tudors, had crown and movement issues, my Omegas are still here.
Tudor has at least 4 color options available + GMT version and so on - not sure what you are talking about
This brand new BB41 is only in 1 color option (and 3 strap options). Would love to see it in blue with silver colored markers or black and silver. I am aware of the black and white GMT models 😉
Lately, it seems like Tudor is no longer the poor man’s Rolex. It’s more like the rich man’s San Martín
It’s still the poor man’s Rolex 😂😂😂😂😂 THESE BLOGGERS AND UTUBERS BEING PAID TO PUSH TUDOR 😂😂😂😂😂
I don’t get paid by Tudor lol. I just love the Rolex Submariner and the new Tudor Black Bay models 😀
@@GadgetsforGentlemen I get it. You are try to be paid by Tudor 😂😂😂😂
I wouldn’t mind haha!
Also the idiots like you can comment.
Omega links are too feminine looking.
Nahhh, both of these watches are boring to look at. Go for a Longines Ultra-Chron instead. It has a more accurate hi-beat movement, stunning sapphire bezel, beautifully textured dial and looks amazing.
Interesting watch and fantastic movement.
Seamaster 300m boring?? Okay...😂
Tudor is nowhere near the level of OMEGA. It is a poor man’s Rolex 😂😂😂😂
What really not the level check the bracelet the power reserve and size think before your write a comment. Thank you😂
@@jdmtl1041 Tudor is a fake Rolex 😂😂😂😂😂
@@SIZZO76 keep wearing your Apple Watch buddy. 👍
@@jdmtl1041 Why so aggressive 😂 Tudor is still a fake Rolex 😂😂😂😂😂
@@SIZZO76get your facts and history straight first, then we’ll talk troll.