Such an epic comment - I am going be quoting you from now and onwards: "You either quit from rage or live long enough to see yourself become a projectile spammer..." (timmer919hep, 2017)
Nothing legit about it. Majority are only pussies and trolls that play those characters that are just looking for an easy way out. Mainly because they have more difficulty performing actually combos and don't have as much of a safety net since they actually require adequate skill when you're in the face of your opponent and are subject to risk.
Because its cheap to spam moves. It shows no talent or any skill to play the game. I can understand picking and choosing when to use special moves but when you sit back and just cheese. You take enjoyment out of the game. When i lose to someone better than me cool. But cheesing projectile moves is not skill and its not respectful. People gonna do it anyway but just know you are recognized as a scrub by the community
I can imagine EVO 2017. Where the Top 4 is going to be at least half-zoning characters. And the only way I can see is that meter becomes a comeback mechanic and not a way for keepaway to keep pressuring every other character with more meter usage.
DolphinSquared I doubt it. The online meta is rarely the same as the professional meta. SonicFox is one of the only players that has dabbled in zoning, but still has mostly won tournaments with Black Adam, who is probably the most busted character in the game that no one seems to complain about.
NRS really needs to let the person blocking projectiles to gain some meter back. You can't fight back against projectile spammers if you aren't given the main tools to do so.
Max's overall expression really does show the current state of this game! I can't be the only person that clearly sees a difference in reaction when facing rushdown and facing zoners. When he's facing rushdown or fighting characters, he sounds like he's having more fun and enjoying the game, but when he's facing zoners, he sounds more upset and doesn't sounds like he's having fun anymore. Hope they fix this!
He was definitely masking his frustrations by accepting that zoning is part of the game and that it is something is very rampant in Injustice 2, so he has to deal with it
Kevin Jackson the way he talks during the zone match ups has palpable frustration behind most of when he talks. he definitely enjoys brawls more than waiting
NRS should reduce the space 2 characters can be apart by 20/ even 30% it would make getting in on "zoning" easier. It's shit to watch, and a handful of characters seem to struggle too much with it. The better projectile shouldn't dictate the match and it's going to hurt the game's lifespan.
I know but it's a very real flaw... it would make more sense to keep the combat closer because it would still work; it just wouldn't control the entire match so obnoxiously... It's lame to reward a player so much for camping.
The other main issue with the first game was that we didn't have a lot of ways to bypass the zoning spammers like OP deathstroke and OP Superman at the time. Here, we have MB rolls that most aren't utilising to get past the zoners. However, despite it has good uses, the main issues with MB roll is that it doesn't go full screen and some are awful (I'm looking at you scarecrow). I think one way to nerf zoning instead of decreasing the screen, make MB rolls goe full screen no matter where you are
I played MKX > Injustice 1 but I'm no stranger to zoners like... jacqui briggs... I just think it's a bad idea to force people to adapt to a toxic environment day 1... it's already affected the meta. I agree though, making MB roll go full screen or reducing full screen to MB rolls in general; would be a strong welcome balance update.
It *has* to feel super fulfilling just sitting at the edge of the screen spamming hadoken motions for an entire match. There's no other way I can imagine people doing this for any reason other than that it must somehow give you the biggest high of your life.
hailmarycake62 - The only thing Robin can do is that air sword attack, and that's punishable as well. The Birdarang is way too slow to compete with zoners
It's not specifically that zoners are a problem. It's that Injustice 2 gives so much reward and little risk to them. most characters have no real way to approach and the ones that do can be punished pretty heavily if the zoner sees it coming. This is all stuff that NRS can fix with a path...hopefully.
Both. They gotta make the meter burn roll and meter burn escapes be only 1 meter. Another option is to make blocking excessive projectiles gives insane amounts of meter. The end lag is a MUST though.
Much respect to you for not raging against that darksied. Full screen zoning is some frustrating shit. I being a scarecrow main can utilize teleportation, but I feel sorry for the players who don't have an answer for this.
Damien and Diana are such hateable characters in this game. Not that it matters but goddamn they are so disagreeable with how they rationalize their decisions.
They weren't raised the same as the rest of the cast, Diana is a Amazon Warrior so might makes right is kinda in her blood. And Damian by assassins taught from birth that killing is the right thing to do. You can't really blame them?
i really feel like the robin/black canary match up is really cheap on robin's side...i mean in hand to hand combat canary wins hands down but robin has the range of a sword which makes it super hard to get in on him....i wish canary had more properties to get in other than just the cry..
I mean in Darkseids perspective fighting these characters with his fists would be a little beneath him tbh. Though seeing Darkseids back-up desperately to gain more ground to shoot more lasers is the real disappointing part.
I think they either just need to far reduce the chip damage that projectiles cause, reduce the amount of meter that a zoner gets when their projectile is blocked, or let the defender build meter for blocked projectiles so that they can have the meter to meter burn roll after blocking a few of them. The chip damage and meter building zoners get, on top of stopping the meter building of the defending character, is just a little too much.
Hey max when you do forward 21 or 2down3 into the meterburn sword flip combo, you can get a lot more damage. The down 2 scales your damage down really bad. I found that after the back 3, you can do jumping 3 into back 12 into the assassin strike for about 55% I think
I like how Max wins pretty damn solidly the moment he gets an opponent who actually has to fight up close instead of staying full screen and spamming projectiles.
There is an ability for Robin where he has a baterang he can throw and it isn't a mix up it's a normal baterang it covers full screen and you can burn it to throw 3 which covers full screen it helps so much with range
I noticed a hit on the Canary Cry mucks up your audio for a bit! Nice! On a different note, I like the variety of costumes. Some look terrible, but some are great!
I used to deal with the zoning pretty easy with Aquaman in injustice 1 but in 2 the trident and tentacle grab does nothing because it takes too long to start it. He's just fumbling over himself when the trident is halfway to them or the tentacle just bounces off. I'm sure it will be adjusted in time but until then I'm gonna play everything but ranked.
Once again thank you Max. I first started watching you doing week of with Nightwing in 1. I traded my copy in because Superman and Cyborg became impossible to beat as Nightwing. I've been playing 2 all day doing KOTH and Ranked and wow. Between Supergirl eye spamming, superman and Dr. fate it's like why even put Robin in this game? I'm only 5 mins into this video and Max is nasty at fighting games. That fate player was a prime example of why I'm about to trade this in since I've unlocked every achievement. I wanted to main robin since nightwing is gone and you can unlock his staff. But videos like this are why I like injustice but jesus guys. That darkseid match is prime example of what's wrong with 2
My solution to (most) zone spammers: make it where they can only use 5 shots before having to do a special move to "reload" and make reloading take a enough time to get combo'd up
The thing I don't get about having so many powerful zoners is that people are going to definitely see that and stay away from the game because of it. I suppose most casual players who were going to get the game probably already bought it, but if I was on the fence and I saw this I would totally pass.
This is why I try to do combos with Deadshot. I know he's all about guns but I don't want to fall into the comforts of projectile spam while playing one of my favorite characters.
I haven't actually played Injustice 2, I'm just watching matches for entertainment, but I sometimes feel this Fighting Game style isn't built with all these full-screen projectiles in mind. Unlike Marvel vs Capcom for example, you don't have things like Air Blocks or Super Jumps to help get past them easier. I know that's what Meter-Burn Rolls and stuff are for, but... they require Meter.
There's a difference between actual zoning and brainless spamming. What these people are doing isn't remotely considered zoning. Take Dhalsim in SFIV for example, you can't just throw random moves because they can easily by countered. Here however, the projectiles are so good you don't need to time your attacks or even think of what your opponent might do next, they'll just spam. And the hitboxes are stupid especially for Bane trying to jump over projectiles. NRS never ever learn.
TheIrkenArmada his defense stat is lowered to compensate for his extra health. Guess they just tried to make him different as he was the preorder bonus
Fighting dumb zoners as Bane as fun, it's easy to get in with my charge, because they're so predictable, and then once I get it they just get wrecked by my mixups, really shows how little they actually know about the game. GOOD zoners on the other hand are, impossible.
Looks like this comment section doesn't know what "zoning" is. NEWS FLASH PEOPLE! Some characters are PROJECTILE based. Take Dr Fate for example. His up close is fairly week except for set amount combos that are fairly short. The way to play him is to keep a distance from your enemy. use the Amon Ra blast to smack them back so you can summon ahnks, Use his trait to get your magic even stronger or wall bounce them for a combo with the Ahnks. He also has a heal that can be used to gain health or damage enemies with trait. (BTW this is coming from someone who plays people such as Atrocitus, Batman, Flash and Swamp Thing)
Can't wait for a bracket full of Deadshot v. Deadshot mirror matches at EVO. Did NetherRealm learn nothing from the original Injustice's competitive scene?
Max how do you deal with the keep away? I love this game, but I hate that so many people do this. Arrow, Harley, Cold and Deadshot are a problem for me.
I was wanting to pick this game up, but if this is how the online is right now it might be worth waiting some... especially since I would be playing Swamp Thing haha
7:46 WOAH HE'S FINALLY DOING IT! After getting his ass whooped by Omega Beams half the match he's finally METERBURNROLLING. LOOK THERE IT IS AGAIN AT 7:54 METERBURNROOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLL!!!!! If only he and all other people would do this the ENTIRE MATCH vs spammers there wouldn't be a spam problem. Alas we're given a hammer and attempt to punch nails in with our fists then complain that nails are broken.
Hey, does anyone know how when Max plays rank it shows each character's actual number value for HP? When I play, it never shows that. Is there a setting change that can fix that to make it show the values?
I feel like zoning is okay, but there should be some penalty against just spamming. I play a lot of darkseid and I use my lasers. But I just use them to poke and go in for a huge combo.
is there a fighting game with NO projectiles? the only ones I can think of that kinda fit this are soul calibur and tekken but in tekken there's devil jin and alisa with projectiles and in soul calibur I remember Ezio having them too...
leopold9 yea but you can sidestep and there is no pure zoning character there. having one or two projectile dosent not make a character a zoning character
Rendark I imagine they want to do around a month of data collection (at most) and balance around that. I imagine they'll do a pretty big balance overhaul of a lot of characters, that takes a lot of data collection
Max also barely used meter burn roll at all. With meter burn roll you can get in, do a combo and keep up the pressure. Max hardly used it, even when at full meter.
You either quit from rage or live long enough to see yourself become a projectile spammer...
dmoneybay dear god. . I feel myself wanting to main deadshot too. even though it's so boring.
8DarthGhost8 no matter what man don't give in. The flash is my main and will always be it. Stay true to your character
whats supergirl whats black adam it seems only deadshot gets shit cause he's mindlessly shooting instead of mindlessly doing the same combos
It's truly painful being a Bane main...
Such an epic comment - I am going be quoting you from now and onwards: "You either quit from rage or live long enough to see yourself become a projectile spammer..." (timmer919hep, 2017)
Jeez that zoning makes my blood boil. I know that it's a perfectly legitimate playstyle but good god it's just no fun at all to play against.
It's even worse with characters like Dhalsim or Axel Low because those aren't special moves. One button zoning
Zach Champion the zoners of Street Fighter and Guilty Gear
People, including max, aren't sing meter burn roll to get in. No idea why.
Peyton Westmoreland remember sinsistro from the first injustice? he was the god of zoning, and so was general zod
Nothing legit about it. Majority are only pussies and trolls that play those characters that are just looking for an easy way out. Mainly because they have more difficulty performing actually combos and don't have as much of a safety net since they actually require adequate skill when you're in the face of your opponent and are subject to risk.
Red Hood: "I heard you got disowned"
Damian: "I heard you got beaten with a crowbar"
Love how none of these spammers can do a actual combo.
GoDZooKe lol cause the fucking suck. all they can do is shoot
who cares you play the game how ever you want to play.
Because its cheap to spam moves. It shows no talent or any skill to play the game. I can understand picking and choosing when to use special moves but when you sit back and just cheese. You take enjoyment out of the game. When i lose to someone better than me cool. But cheesing projectile moves is not skill and its not respectful. People gonna do it anyway but just know you are recognized as a scrub by the community
Doctor Fate could
GoDZooKe you should see half the robins online smh
I can imagine EVO 2017. Where the Top 4 is going to be at least half-zoning characters. And the only way I can see is that meter becomes a comeback mechanic and not a way for keepaway to keep pressuring every other character with more meter usage.
DolphinSquared I doubt it. The online meta is rarely the same as the professional meta. SonicFox is one of the only players that has dabbled in zoning, but still has mostly won tournaments with Black Adam, who is probably the most busted character in the game that no one seems to complain about.
NRS really needs to let the person blocking projectiles to gain some meter back. You can't fight back against projectile spammers if you aren't given the main tools to do so.
Max's overall expression really does show the current state of this game! I can't be the only person that clearly sees a difference in reaction when facing rushdown and facing zoners. When he's facing rushdown or fighting characters, he sounds like he's having more fun and enjoying the game, but when he's facing zoners, he sounds more upset and doesn't sounds like he's having fun anymore. Hope they fix this!
He was definitely masking his frustrations by accepting that zoning is part of the game and that it is something is very rampant in Injustice 2, so he has to deal with it
Kevin Jackson the way he talks during the zone match ups has palpable frustration behind most of when he talks. he definitely enjoys brawls more than waiting
NRS should reduce the space 2 characters can be apart by 20/ even 30% it would make getting in on "zoning" easier.
It's shit to watch, and a handful of characters seem to struggle too much with it.
The better projectile shouldn't dictate the match and it's going to hurt the game's lifespan.
Injustice 1 had the same problem but they never patched it. They just nerfed zoning very quickly afterwards instead of the screen thing.
I know but it's a very real flaw... it would make more sense to keep the combat closer because it would still work; it just wouldn't control the entire match so obnoxiously... It's lame to reward a player so much for camping.
The other main issue with the first game was that we didn't have a lot of ways to bypass the zoning spammers like OP deathstroke and OP Superman at the time. Here, we have MB rolls that most aren't utilising to get past the zoners. However, despite it has good uses, the main issues with MB roll is that it doesn't go full screen and some are awful (I'm looking at you scarecrow). I think one way to nerf zoning instead of decreasing the screen, make MB rolls goe full screen no matter where you are
I played MKX > Injustice 1 but I'm no stranger to zoners like... jacqui briggs...
I just think it's a bad idea to force people to adapt to a toxic environment day 1... it's already affected the meta.
I agree though, making MB roll go full screen or reducing full screen to MB rolls in general; would be a strong welcome balance update.
It *has* to feel super fulfilling just sitting at the edge of the screen spamming hadoken motions for an entire match. There's no other way I can imagine people doing this for any reason other than that it must somehow give you the biggest high of your life.
Seems like you like the Robin plays, but all these zoners are just not good for the poor lad.
hailmarycake62 - The only thing Robin can do is that air sword attack, and that's punishable as well. The Birdarang is way too slow to compete with zoners
It's not specifically that zoners are a problem. It's that Injustice 2 gives so much reward and little risk to them.
most characters have no real way to approach and the ones that do can be punished pretty heavily if the zoner sees it coming. This is all stuff that NRS can fix with a path...hopefully.
To be fair I also think zoners are incredibly boring to play and I'd never touch one with a 12 ft pole.
7:22 "I don't have the meter to do anything yet." As he sits on 3 and 3/4 bars lol.
Cracked up at your robin impersonation on the treadmill. Thanks max
Thank you for not getting salty over all the zoner spam. It really makes the video way more enjoyable seeing you deal with it in a reasonable manner.
Max you really need to use robins ability trait more that dr fate fight would have gone differently if you had.
They have to nerf these projectiles dude. Like increase the end lag or make them do less chip damage
Both. They gotta make the meter burn roll and meter burn escapes be only 1 meter. Another option is to make blocking excessive projectiles gives insane amounts of meter. The end lag is a MUST though.
I almost cried when he was doing the dialogue for robin bro I almost cried good shit man good shit. At 2:10
2:12 Came back for this one... Max's scrubby edgelord Robin voice always has me in tears lol.
*Sees a skilled player lose to spamming projectiles*
Oh, now i get it!! INJUSTICE!!
"I'M WAKING UP AND THROWING BARRELS IN YOUR FACE!"
EX Barrel
Barrel
Barrel
Sword.
Goof job Max. You happy? :)
on knockdown with robin, I'm surprised max is not using trait more to teleport in
"Where's my Bentley?" LMAO
Tatsunero
Baby Bat needs a Baby Batmobile.
"I'm gonna pick up one of these got damn barrels & throw them right at your face" lol
Max clearly needs to learn the Weapon Triangle
LOL the ending with the barrels is a masterpiece!
Much respect to you for not raging against that darksied. Full screen zoning is some frustrating shit. I being a scarecrow main can utilize teleportation, but I feel sorry for the players who don't have an answer for this.
Best commentary I've heard in a while love your vids.
17:01 Max, Robin and Scarecrow are drunks xD
Max, could you do a week of Bane or Scarecrow?
Damien and Diana are such hateable characters in this game. Not that it matters but goddamn they are so disagreeable with how they rationalize their decisions.
They weren't raised the same as the rest of the cast, Diana is a Amazon Warrior so might makes right is kinda in her blood. And Damian by assassins taught from birth that killing is the right thing to do. You can't really blame them?
I laugh so hard at the barrels part at 16:58 xDD
CowardlyFox Gimme this thing!
XD
17:00 it was at this moment that max knew... it was on like donkey kong
I think this video should be called Damian Kong for such a passionate barrel tossing xD
i really feel like the robin/black canary match up is really cheap on robin's side...i mean in hand to hand combat canary wins hands down but robin has the range of a sword which makes it super hard to get in on him....i wish canary had more properties to get in other than just the cry..
"Because he was spectacularly wrong!"
Whoever wrote that line and thought it was well put must burn.
Man even Darkseid is doing zoning, you know that guy who can CANONICALLY BEAT UP SUPERMAN WITH HIS FISTS
Alex Mowrey To be fair Darkseid is most famous for his omega beamz, its still disapointing though.
I mean in Darkseids perspective fighting these characters with his fists would be a little beneath him tbh. Though seeing Darkseids back-up desperately to gain more ground to shoot more lasers is the real disappointing part.
SaurusHam Yeah that's more along the lines of what I meant
I think they either just need to far reduce the chip damage that projectiles cause, reduce the amount of meter that a zoner gets when their projectile is blocked, or let the defender build meter for blocked projectiles so that they can have the meter to meter burn roll after blocking a few of them. The chip damage and meter building zoners get, on top of stopping the meter building of the defending character, is just a little too much.
Hey max when you do forward 21 or 2down3 into the meterburn sword flip combo, you can get a lot more damage. The down 2 scales your damage down really bad. I found that after the back 3, you can do jumping 3 into back 12 into the assassin strike for about 55% I think
That Scarecrow has got to be saltier than a pretzel in the Atlantic Ocean.
I like how Max wins pretty damn solidly the moment he gets an opponent who actually has to fight up close instead of staying full screen and spamming projectiles.
There is an ability for Robin where he has a baterang he can throw and it isn't a mix up it's a normal baterang it covers full screen and you can burn it to throw 3 which covers full screen it helps so much with range
I noticed a hit on the Canary Cry mucks up your audio for a bit! Nice!
On a different note, I like the variety of costumes. Some look terrible, but some are great!
When you're a demon, but also kills other demons.
I'm glad you're enjoying this game. I to wish they would quickly do something about the spamming of projectiles. Anyways good Robin plays Max
"My daddy's rich, Don't you ever talk to me again, Where's my Bentley?" MAX! HAHAHAHA
Aquaman fight was the highlight of this vid 12:50
No cheese just combos.
I used to deal with the zoning pretty easy with Aquaman in injustice 1 but in 2 the trident and tentacle grab does nothing because it takes too long to start it. He's just fumbling over himself when the trident is halfway to them or the tentacle just bounces off.
I'm sure it will be adjusted in time but until then I'm gonna play everything but ranked.
Once again thank you Max. I first started watching you doing week of with Nightwing in 1. I traded my copy in because Superman and Cyborg became impossible to beat as Nightwing.
I've been playing 2 all day doing KOTH and Ranked and wow. Between Supergirl eye spamming, superman and Dr. fate it's like why even put Robin in this game? I'm only 5 mins into this video and Max is nasty at fighting games. That fate player was a prime example of why I'm about to trade this in since I've unlocked every achievement. I wanted to main robin since nightwing is gone and you can unlock his staff.
But videos like this are why I like injustice but jesus guys. That darkseid match is prime example of what's wrong with 2
I want the batman beyond skin for batman so much so I can hear Terry McGinnis drop the mike on Damian.
That Damian Wayne impression was hilarious
My solution to (most) zone spammers: make it where they can only use 5 shots before having to do a special move to "reload" and make reloading take a enough time to get combo'd up
Zoning should be an option in fighting games but never "thee option" zoning should be great for people who master it not for anyone to do
I actually lost it when the barrel spam on Scarecrow actually worked
2:11 Best Jaden Smith I've ever heard.
The thing I don't get about having so many powerful zoners is that people are going to definitely see that and stay away from the game because of it. I suppose most casual players who were going to get the game probably already bought it, but if I was on the fence and I saw this I would totally pass.
O.Sagat decided to dress up as Dr.Fate for halloween I see
This is why I try to do combos with Deadshot. I know he's all about guns but I don't want to fall into the comforts of projectile spam while playing one of my favorite characters.
Damian is so cool in the animated movies and is easily my fav Robin but I feel like they made Damian to "Damiany" in this game
Red Hood: I heard you were a failed abortion
Damian: And you got beat by a clown
Red Hood: Keep running that mouth....
0:13 CHINGER CHANGER POLK FORKER
They said they waved 2 fix the projectile spam, so what do they do, every character with a projectile is virtually untouchable even with the roll
2:15 was hilarious max is a funny guy
I haven't actually played Injustice 2, I'm just watching matches for entertainment, but I sometimes feel this Fighting Game style isn't built with all these full-screen projectiles in mind.
Unlike Marvel vs Capcom for example, you don't have things like Air Blocks or Super Jumps to help get past them easier.
I know that's what Meter-Burn Rolls and stuff are for, but... they require Meter.
I'm not super familiar with Robin's trait, but doesn't he have a teleport with that? Would that help with zoners?
Inriri it would if they couldn't just go right back to doing it or back away a little and quickly shoot. Then your back to square one
15:35 Ace O' Clubs wants $5 for a hot dog, but only $7 for Steak & Eggs. How does this business operate anywhere in the D.C. multiverse?
There's a difference between actual zoning and brainless spamming. What these people are doing isn't remotely considered zoning. Take Dhalsim in SFIV for example, you can't just throw random moves because they can easily by countered. Here however, the projectiles are so good you don't need to time your attacks or even think of what your opponent might do next, they'll just spam. And the hitboxes are stupid especially for Bane trying to jump over projectiles. NRS never ever learn.
I know it wouldn't make as much sense in a game like this but this game looks like it could do with a Marvel-style Super Jump.
Against zoners I use end all my combos with the dive kick (his down back 3), because it leaves you close, and you have better okizeme.
9:06 easy now, Damian that's some serial killer shit right there.
And that's what happens when like 40% of your cast is keep away specialized (also, why the hell does Darkseid have 1400 health?)
TheIrkenArmada his defense stat is lowered to compensate for his extra health. Guess they just tried to make him different as he was the preorder bonus
Love thar MB roll in the third round against Doctor Fate.
there needs to be a meter for projectiles so that spamming projectiles can be less common
Those kegs were a waste of beer, Max!
"Where's my Bentley!?" 😅😅😅
Fighting dumb zoners as Bane as fun, it's easy to get in with my charge, because they're so predictable, and then once I get it they just get wrecked by my mixups, really shows how little they actually know about the game. GOOD zoners on the other hand are, impossible.
Looks like this comment section doesn't know what "zoning" is. NEWS FLASH PEOPLE! Some characters are PROJECTILE based. Take Dr Fate for example. His up close is fairly week except for set amount combos that are fairly short. The way to play him is to keep a distance from your enemy. use the Amon Ra blast to smack them back so you can summon ahnks, Use his trait to get your magic even stronger or wall bounce them for a combo with the Ahnks. He also has a heal that can be used to gain health or damage enemies with trait. (BTW this is coming from someone who plays people such as Atrocitus, Batman, Flash and Swamp Thing)
Max love your vids man
Can't wait for a bracket full of Deadshot v. Deadshot mirror matches at EVO. Did NetherRealm learn nothing from the original Injustice's competitive scene?
That Doctor Fate was pretty sick.
Max how do you deal with the keep away? I love this game, but I hate that so many people do this. Arrow, Harley, Cold and Deadshot are a problem for me.
I was wanting to pick this game up, but if this is how the online is right now it might be worth waiting some... especially since I would be playing Swamp Thing haha
I'm not a expert at this game but I wonder if they eliminate the knock back when you get hit people would as much of a problem with the zoning. Idk
I hope Red Hood isn't a zoning character.
We need more Benny!
What happens when two zoning characters meet? Do they just stand and spam projectiles at eachother from afar?
yo max I'm thinking of maining scarecrow but Idk about his mix up.game. any thoughts?
what do u think comparing injustice 2 wiv SFV? thks :)
At 1:19 Canary kicks the air behind Robin and connected... wut
7:46 WOAH HE'S FINALLY DOING IT! After getting his ass whooped by Omega Beams half the match he's finally METERBURNROLLING. LOOK THERE IT IS AGAIN AT 7:54 METERBURNROOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!
If only he and all other people would do this the ENTIRE MATCH vs spammers there wouldn't be a spam problem. Alas we're given a hammer and attempt to punch nails in with our fists then complain that nails are broken.
Hey, does anyone know how when Max plays rank it shows each character's actual number value for HP? When I play, it never shows that. Is there a setting change that can fix that to make it show the values?
that ending was Fuckin hilarious
I don't know anything about the game, but can you use Canary's scream as a reset?
I feel like zoning is okay, but there should be some penalty against just spamming. I play a lot of darkseid and I use my lasers. But I just use them to poke and go in for a huge combo.
I feel like I should learn a zoning character in this game just to deal with these a-holes in ranked.
All characters level 20 except for deadshot at level 18. Each character has at least 5 epic pieces of gear and darkseid, bane have full set.
Oh shit he has a level 20 Doctor Fate!
*Projectile Spams*
is there a fighting game with NO projectiles? the only ones I can think of that kinda fit this are soul calibur and tekken but in tekken there's devil jin and alisa with projectiles and in soul calibur I remember Ezio having them too...
leopold9 yea but you can sidestep and there is no pure zoning character there. having one or two projectile dosent not make a character a zoning character
I know but what I was thinking about was an absolutely no projectile game. But I don't think there is one....
This games online will die so fast if they don't do something about the projectiles.
Rendark I imagine they want to do around a month of data collection (at most) and balance around that. I imagine they'll do a pretty big balance overhaul of a lot of characters, that takes a lot of data collection
I hope so.
Rendark it's going to die like all their games lol
Rendark forget the game dying online. This game will die full stop if this shitty projectiles continue.
Max also barely used meter burn roll at all. With meter burn roll you can get in, do a combo and keep up the pressure. Max hardly used it, even when at full meter.
When he was thick awh man I was dying lmao
Would it be op if Robin had one of the batarangs so that it would destroy 2 projectiles while sitting on the ground there?