98% of Cue Makers and players do not know this!
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---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In this video, I unmask the secrets of shaft mechanics and what makes them play the way they do! - Спорт
As a player I find this informative and I like the "nerdy" aspects of a shafts build. Thanks for the video!
Shoot em straight, and stay safe. Cheers from Denmark. /Chris.
Thank you very much for your comment!
Thanks for sharing!
For the poolplayers, figure out which tip diameter you like best and stick to it relentlessly. Its easier to switch cues, if it has a tip diameter you are already used to.
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I agree 100%
Thanks for the good video...I'm one of the "older" guys (70+) who shot with the older type cues for years....I'm getting back into the game, now try to use a Cuetec Cynergy Carbon Fiber....not for me...way to light on the front end. Just ordered a PureX HXT4 12.75mm pool cue from a fellow on Ebay (Sunshine Billiards) Good fellow, will go back to wood and see how it plays.....still looking! I used to play with Cornbread Red (Billy) back in the day in Detroit...I won some, he won more.
Very nice!
This was really informative thank you. More info about the shaft, such as splices few vs many, joint collar, butt of cue, about the butt end in general, etc. would love to hear all about it. I've been shooting with the lucasi LCZ21 for about 2 plus years and using the 11.5 and then 11.75 LD shaft. I'm considering moving up to a 11.9 or 12 and trying to figure out the exact shaft I want to move forward with that way I can buy two
Thank you for the suggestions, I will try to provide a few more videos covering these topics soon.
Very informative video! A huge thank you for sharing!
Glad it was helpful!
Very good video I’m a player not a cue maker, but I could relate to everything you said cheers
Thank you very much!
This was very informative, thanks for the info. 👍
Thank you for watching!
great info i could listen for hours
Thank you very much! More to come soon.
Thank you for the shaft information, like it.
You are more than welcome!
I’m currently shooting with a Meucci pro shaft 12.5 and a Kamui black medium. Considering going to their new keilwood shaft at 31 inches, 12.25, and their ultra skin soft tip. This is all on their power piston butt.
I’m looking for more action closer to center ball.
A smaller shaft diameter will generate more action closer to the center, but you must be very accurate with your stroke.
Very good information
Thank you very much!
I have a cue from a well known cue maker. I was rolling it on the table and noticed that although, the shaft looks perfectly straight to me, the roll speeds up and slows down. I deduced that this would mean that one side of the cue is heavier than the other side of the cue. I need to figure out if this unbalanced weight distribution is the shaft or the butt. My question to you is, how much does this matter to the cue playability? And do I need to be more concerned if it's the butt or the shaft? Are both bad, or is one worse than the other? When I shoot, I try to keep the spine vertical, but based on what I saw with where it's heavier on one side, this would put the extra weight on the left side of the cue as I shoot, (Assuming it always lines up the same when I put the cue together.)
This is more than likely due to the connecting screw at the "A" Joint not being concentric, but this should not affect playability.
VERY informative and interesting.
I want to know more!
Thank you for the comment, What would you like for me to discuss in the next video?
@@CuemakersGuild I would like to know everything about Tips - how different materials, weight, layered, compressed affect the cueball. Should one use a different tip for a carbon fiber shaft? Tip shape?
Thank you for your videos and letting us pick your brain.
You are more than welcome!
Another great video. These videos are cutting down the learning curve when it comes to building cues. Hopefully a series on CNC is in the works. Especially the G code for creating a cone out of a square or the shaft tapers for a pool cue. On the video on making custom collets, an item was mentioned that I'm trying to find more information about. It was mentioned early on in the video as a laminate padding that could be used as a collet. What is it called and possibly where can I buy some? Thank you so much for these series of videos.
I am glad they are helping to shorten your learning curve.
really well done ! thanks
You ar more than welcome, Thank you for watching!
So if I buy one of your cues I should try several out and talk to you before I commit to buying one!
You should speak with me before trying several out as I can fit you to one.
Nice video.My phone heard me saying I want to switch shafts and suggested this video.I have been playing with an 11.75 for years.I had a predator z2 now a meucci carbon.I totally agree about the accuracy issue.I love the spin but after I thought about it I don't really need it all the time.If you need to play crazy spin all the time,that means your position sucks.Im going to switch to a 12.5 and see how that goes for me.
I think switching will help your shot making ability, but always work on your stroke as well.
I would argue, that spin use depends on your playing style and what games you play. If you play alot of 8 ball chances are good you don't use left and right too often. If you play one pocket or 9 ball you may use a lot of spin to play banks and safeties. When playing carom games you see the players style is more pronounced. Some players play with less spin and rely on thickness of hit, others use more spin to get the cue ball where they want it, in pool you don't have a lot of freedom to choose where you want to hit the object ball. Bank players use english to shorten, lengthen, and bend banks. It doesn't mean your position sucks.
I've found that atleast for shaft diameter and overall 'whippyness'. I can watch to see how firm or soft they shoot comfortably. Real soft shots=real whippy thinner shaft. Hard=stiff. I keep it between 11.75 and 13mm. I feel 'custom cues' should have shafts built for the player. You shouldn't have to 'get used to it' if it's the right cue for you in my opinion.
I would agree with that statement 100%
@CuemakersGuild I have to admit that I had the deflection backwards in my head. But it all makes sense. Simple physics, an object with less mass would deflect more itself, causing the cueball to deflect less. Thank You for that!
I have more questions since watching this video:
1. If the straighter the grain gives better feel (and a more solid hit), how does the multi-layer shaft like in the Predator 314 shaft (and others) compare in this regards to a one piece maple shaft?
2. How do different core materials compare (solid shaft, balsa, foam, carbon)? Could you do a video on this?
3. My Predator carbon shaft has no ferrule - how does this compare to the plastic ferrule on my older 314 shaft?
4. I’ve done videos of my self shooting my 314 and carbon shaft (both 11.75 tips). The 314 is definitely whippier than the carbon shaft. Since the contact time is the same (proven by Dr. Dave) how does the “whippiness” effect shooting (other than my seeing the shaft bend on the shot…lol)?
5. I’m 6’3” tall. I’ve put 6” extensions in the middle of my cues. My break cue uses a wood extension, and my shooting cue uses aluminum. Besides the obvious difference of balance are there any other differences between an extension in the middle vs. extensions at the end of the butt? I’ve seen videos where some people like the feel of the extra weight at the end of the cue, but I really like the feel of my extensions in the middle of the cue.
6. You mentioned tips. Can you do a video on the different tip types? Multi-layer (Zan) vs single layer (Elk Master) vs phenolic? What can a player expect when using the different types, and do different types do different jobs based on their usage (shooting vs jumping vs breaking)?
Very informative, and I like your style as well. I see lots of cue maker videos discussing how they make their cues, but this is the first video where I’ve seen anyone discuss the science behind the different materials and parts of the cue. While I like to see how different cues are made, please keep these discussions as part of the cue making process.
Yes, I will be more than happy to share my experience on this topic.
Great info....do you core out your shafts and fill with foam? I'd like to see a video on that. Also what about carbon core shafts? How that's done and the pros and cons of that.
I offer many different types of shafts, but yes, one that I offer is cored in the front, and I may do a video on this for everyone.
Good Stuff!!
Thank you. Stay tuned for more!
Please compare wood shaft to carbon fiber!
I will try to create a video about this in the near future for you.
Very good video
Thank you very much!
Ecxellent info..thanks
Thank you, and I appreciate your watching the video!
I am curious as to why you are saying that a larger shaft diameter is more accurate in pocketing balls than a thinner shaft. Is this just a squirt thing, or do you believe there's something else going on?
A larger shaft diameter, much like the driver in golf, provides a larger "sweet spot" helping to eliminate unintentional English or side spine, resulting in a more pure stroke.
I've found this to be true in many hours of practicing and comparing. I bought and tried a 12.4mm Revo shaft vs my normal 12.9mm Revo shaft. With the smaller shaft it was easier to get a lot of spin and action on the cue ball, but it is harder to actually sink balls in. I sold the shaft to someone who is very high end in 1 pocket, I know, most of them like to play with wood shafts, but he said the same thing. He also sold the 12.4 and stuck with 12.9mm. It seems like a lot of pros prefer the 12.4mm over 12.9mm, but they can consistently stroke and pocket balls very easy. Once in awhile I'll shoot a rack of balls with my jump cue which is 14mm. It is like it is almost impossible to miss a shot. I'm tempted to just use my jump cue to shoot in important shots that don't need a lot of spin.
@@CuemakersGuild But hang on a second... If I hit a cue ball with a 13mm tip vs a 11mm tip, in both cases only a fraction of the tip is going to contact the ball. Using a crappy chalk that transfers or putting a piece of carbon paper (yes Im that old) between the balls and hitting them the same speed (harder means a bigger transfer spot) will show you where that actually is. But regardless of shaft/tip size, can it make that big of a difference on the accuracy and ball pocketing ability?
@@MrAndydavis78 yes sir
I’d like to know how to interpret and understand the feedback from a shaft.
The shaft is only one element that generates accurate feedback. The main parts of the cue that does this are the following:
Tip, ferrule, shaft, joint, pin, and the core itself(If cored) I may do a video about this in the near future.
Great video... what's your name or cue brand?
This group is comprised of a collection of Cuemakers to include myself with Krown Cues and Ed Petersen with EAP Cues.
@@CuemakersGuild awesome 👍
How does the balance point of a cue affect the hit and control
Thank you for your question.
I cover this in the following video:
studio.ua-cam.com/users/videoayvUA2oES0Q/edit
Do you have a video on length of a shaft and why someone would need a longer or shorter?
I am currently working on one to cover that topic, thanks!
Great inflation Thanks
You are more than welcome!
How does this or does this relate to carbon fiber shaftsm
Thank you for your question. This does not directly relate to CF although some of the mentioned characteristics do apply.
thank you for sharing this video , i'am useing a shaft that's ok. but i could use a better one..how much do you charge to make one for my predator butt.
My shafts start at 250 and could be upwards of 350 depending. You would need to be fitted for a custom shaft via phone.
I don’t believe stiffness affects the deflection like this. Why are carbon fiber shafts lowest deflection and the stiffest? I play with a kielwood that is really Stiff and low deflection
Shaft stiffness, flex, and front end-mass are directly connected to one another when it come to the reduction of deflection. Carbon fiber shafts are NOT the lowest in deflection. They are however the most radially consistent. the reason carbon fiber is not the lowest in overall deflection is due to the lack of appropriate shaft flex. The shaft MUST get out of the way of the cue ball at the point of impact or the cue ball squirts. By having more flex in the shaft , it is more apt to accomplish this.
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Carbon fiber - - - enough said
You have a right to your opinion and personal preferences. Both wood and carbon fiber have their pros and cons.