I just got my Tab X delivered today after a 3 month wait. Your video is most informative and I'm sure to be using it as I navigate through the device. Thank you!
I installed the "beta" version of the firmware, and found it includes many very interesing features: searches in handwriting texts, improved GUI... I think the booxdrop is really a fantastic tool: easy sharing of files with any device, and without cloud (Yes, I care about my privacy). The negative of this tablet, so far is the localization/internationalization: very few keyboard layouts, missing time zones, no automatic detection of the text language, difficulty to mix several languages in the same text, etc.. Not a bloquer, but it's worth mentioning. Generally speaking, very happy with the device and it software.
Your videos are so thorough and comprehensive. They have been a huge help for a ereader neophyte like me. I am wondering if you can address the issue of reliable resellers and the risk around warranties and returns with Boox, i live in Canada. Amazon Canada does not carry Boox products and there is one tiny store in Canada who claim to be an official seller. I have read all sorts of less than pleasing comments about various websites that sell Boox products and the difficult nature of Boox’s customer service. It is really holding me back from buying one and pushing me towards a scribe or a Elipsa just for the peace of mind. Thank you !!!
Do you have any experience with Dasung Not eReader 133? I would like to use it as second monitor to my laptop and I'm considering which one will be better? I'm software developer and I will be use it for programming, reading books and watching online courses. Which one would you choose if you were me?
While I agree with the assessment I am also grateful that Boox continues and with the 13.3" form factor, it seemed for a while that they were giving up on it. Perhaps the next iteration will be what we want and I can upgrade from my Max3
Seriously! I don't get why these companies don't think we want large e-ink screens when PDFs designed for full-size sheets of paper are such a common format.
I think its just price. They've slowly been working prices up now that they're adding color and new tech. Most people are hesitant to buy something like the boox x for 700-900$ depending on where you're getting it. For me, I just want something like a remarkable/supernote but in 13.3 size. The only things that kind of fit that are the quaderno a4 gen 2 and the papyr ( which went out of business unfortunately), and the quaderno has horrendous battery so its out of the question.@@colbyboucher6391
It's obvious that Boox really puts their effort into the 10-inch space as it relates to their notetaking-focused devices. Then they say, let's take the work we did with 10-inchers and throw that into a 13-inch shell and call it a day. That was the case with Lumi 2, and the tradition appears to live on with the X. I understand why people might prefer these devices as it relates to PDF reading and marking, but outside of that, I'd advise everyone to steer clear. The best Boox experience is on the 10-inch space where the sales likely are and that isn't going to change in the foreseeable future.
@@robertanderson2424 10.3 Tab Ultra has SD card slot, magnetic place for the pen, dedicated keyboard case, fingerprint reader, 227 ppi, and is overall better made than the 13.3 Tab X which looks like was made just because they could fit that good old 207ppi 13.3 screen with the new GPU in an old case for the few people who might want this size. When they’ll release a 13.3 better made with optimised software, I’ll be the first to order one, but I’ll pass on the Tab X for the reasons above.
@@robertanderson2424 I just saw this, sorry for the delay in responding. In addition to what CJ said, let me offer another example. If you see a template on a Boox 10" screen, and let's assume it has 12 lines in that template, than the Boox 13" version will also have 12 lines. But why would that be, as the 13" is larger and has room for additional lines? It's because they just brought the same templates over. Also, look at the care they put in design to the 10" Air devices. There's a style there, an attempt to stand out. But the 13" devices are mainly just basic slabs. Here I will give some points to the X for having some sense of design, but that's a new thing for that size category with Boox. When I had the Max Lumi 2, I was struck by all the little details that made sense on a 10" device but not as much on a 13" screen.
Thank you Voja, I hoped for better battery life and the lack of a magnet on the side is also disappointing. So I keep waiting for better... maybe Supernote will do 13.3" one day!
I’m interested in the Boox Tab X, particularly if it allows two features I use on my Remarkable 2. They are 1) Ability to insert blank pages into a PDF, for example Voya’s MDO. And 2) ‘infinite pages’ where you can scroll down on a blank page and make it longer and longer as you write. Are these features available on the Boox Tab X?
Thanks. I have the note air 2. I will stick with that for now. If I was going to upgrade now, I would go with the Ultra for the sd card. The performance of this new line is exciting.
Thank you for discussing how confusing the Canvas option is. I spent quite a bit of time trying to figure out how to make notes work in landscape versus horizontal mode and it was thoroughly frustrating.
It is certainly a mystery why Boox failed to update Tab X to a similar state as the 10.3" Ultra version, with keyboard connection pins and keyboard cover, micro-SD port, (ungodly camera bump on the rear instead of properly embedded cameras like Bigme), and a magnetic case and pen attach. They do have the best software suite, even if it comes across as a "work in progress". Perhaps the slightly increased pen latency is a property of the 13.3" e-ink panel itself rather than the GPU or software. Nevertheless, I am sure you will enjoy reading large format .PDFs on it, slight warts and all. Another very complete Voja Deep Dive.
I would love to see SuperNote implement all of this same functionality in a new A4X but implement it all in a better way. So much of what this does looks really cool, but then seems to fall short on the implementation, as you point out perfectly so many times. But this device is aimed at so many of the right things.
Amazing in-depth review, as always. Thank you! I've got a question. I'm using Note Air (1) to study and it's been great so far. In case I buy another e-ink tablet in the future, I like Boox ecosystem, but I'm missing the spaciousness of a 13.3 screen and the colours for markers and schemes. When do you think we can see something like that? 🤓
Well, we can see a lot of other manufacturers going with the Kaleido 3 and Gallery 3 screens this year, so maybe this year Boox will also do a bigger color push? I really don't know, but their GPU technology would make a heck of a lot of sense for Kaleido screens, to help combat the deficiencies of that technology.
@@MyDeepGuide that would be great. I'm happy with my device so far, so I don't mind waiting. Btw, congrats for your purchase! And thanks for the reply 😊
Hi. Would you happen to know if the problems with the keyboard have been solved? Are we now able to choose between different languages? Does it include exotic keyboard, like Greek Polytonic or Hebrew? Thank you.
A significant drawback of my iPad is the screen feels slippery to write on. As a result, I have trouble writing neatly on it. I was concerned after reading other commenters on the Internet that the Boox devices would also be slippery in this way, so it's very interesting to learn from you that the feel of the Tab X is different than the Tab Ultra. I don't care if the screen is specifically "paper-like"; I'm just looking for a screen that is relatively easy to write neatly on. I've ordered a Tab X from Best Buy, taking advantage of the long holiday return period to be able to try it out and see if it's for me. Thank you for your videos; I keep learning things from them that I don't find anywhere else.
How do you feel about the screen-writing friction now that you have it? I have a remarkable 1 and boox note air, and the writing feel between them is quite different
I see. How do you feel about the Tab X writing feel in general? I guess you're saying it's better than ipad in terms of friction. Any other thoughts about it?
Hi Voja, Thanks, been looking forward to this! There is a "standard" template in the cloud section that has both 24 and 30 lines. The 30 lines are pretty good on the 13.3" screen. Do you not consider this a "standard" template? Also, the screen friction test continues to be interesting. I think that the Tab X is way smoother than the rM2 when writing side by side with the same pen (either rM or boox pro 2). I guess that glossy feeling is not friction, but I don't know what else it could be? Writing on the tab X feels like writing on an OLED glass screen tablet to me.
I have a proposal (to Boox) for Tab X proper name: "Max Tab Air". Max (13.3" device); Tab (New User Interface, GPU, Speed, similar to Tab Ultra); Air (Thinner, Lighter for the size, Minimalistic and user friendly design like other Air devices). I hope that the Boox software team will consider the MDG / Voja comments/recommendations in future software updates (to improve the battery life by bypassing the GPU in settings, to improve links in Notes and Neo Reader, external keyboard use, simple screencast and use the device like an external monitor, landscape-portrait canvas management in Notes, files management/local backup in native notes format, etc.)
How hard would it be to program the possibility of templates where you define the line/dot intensity and distance between?! They should just do it. And add it to all their devices.
Actually what I have got from your review are all pretty positive news for me. I just need a good big document reader have a good screen, the tab ultra seems have reflective screen issue. I am going to get this one..
Great and comprehensive review of the Tab X, thank you. Do you think front light uniformity is better on the Tab Ultra than the Tab X? Is text clarity on the Tab X using normal mode as good as on the Tab Ultra? I'm thinking of getting the Tab X instead of Tab Ultra due to bigger screen and more RAM memory but prefer the device that has the best text clarity and backlight uniformity.
How do you manage folders? I have thousands of PDFs I like to put in folders and merge, delete, combine, etc...Can't find anything on that. I can create folders, but not much info on anything else. Help? :)
Great review! I'm looking for an a4 device for sheet music, both practicing and performing. Would you recommend boox tab X? Or maybe could you recommend something else?
Thanks. I wish Quaderno A4 would be good, but I am worried by your video showing how unpleasant file transfer is, and I understand there is no autosync? Or is there? Anyway, I wondered if anyone could say what is the best way to sync files to PC or cloud with boox? Still prefer light weight of the Quaderno, but sync is a make or break issue for me.
It would be nice, if you could add the possibilities for people with eye problems- this big screen should be able to show text in a much bigger way ? The 4 quarters is nonsense, if the text is fractured in two parts - or is it possible to display the upper 2 parts in landscape ?
It is possible to arrange it in any way you wish. You can also use the split screen functionality, or turn the device to landscape format and then fit to width, and you can even adjust the size of the system font. So all of the possibilities are there, but you need to learn how to use the device.
I am new to the e-ink tablet space. I have a burning question: Has the Tab X handwriting to digital text conversion capability? Does the handwriting recognition capability work without being connected on-line to BOOX servers ( or such like )? In short is it a viable alternative to pen and paper?
Hi Voja! Thanks so much for all these in-depth reviews! I think it doesn't act like a flagship device because *the Max series was never intended to be the flagship* It's expensive mostly because it's big, and you have techincal issues scaling eink panel with the implied batery drain (more ink capsules that need to be physically moved), frontlight that needs to be distributed uniformly (so maybe more units fail quality checks?) It's just a niche device, for those few people who really want the big screen - for most, portability & weight & price might lead to choosing a smaller device. It's big to serve this niche user segment, not necessarily to impress. Onyx always innovated with the 10.3 and 7.8 inch devices, and then *maybe* updated the Max series to match the new design, a year or so later. So I think it's unfair to judge any Max device as a flagship device. Doesn't it make more sense, if you see it as a stretch into a niche?
To me, no, it doesn't make more sense. It's rather simple, average buyer will take a look at a product range, and when they see the biggest device, which is the most expensive one, and with beefiest specifications, well, that's a flagship, or, it's supposed to be one.
People are different... In my case bigger = better (in many other cases also ;-). The device is expensive, but the value of my eye sight/vision is much greater. And the price difference between Boox 10.3" and 13.3" devices is similar to price for new good quality prescription glases...
Even for low vision people, landscape mode and a huge font on 10.3 might just be enough. Not in all cases, but onyx act like for them 13 inch is not a priority
Bought one too. I hope they will fix those software issues. I also think that, despite the improvements, they can still make the OS more accessible and the learning curve less steep. The manual is ridiculously bad and icons often "unguessable". Luckily the Onyx community is large so Internet often provides answers, but as you said, for a flagship...
@@andreagiaretta2456 I think I cannot add much that Voja already did not cover. To read papers, I definitely prefer the 13.3 format and the ability/freedom to customize the page for optimal reading/notes taking that Book gives you. However, the Boox system sometimes can be too much for me. They added so many things that the learning curve is quite steep. For quick notes-taking I still find myself use the R2. Especially because I can keep the R2 on sleep instead of power off for weeks, giving me super fast access on the go. in summary, it depends on your use. For note-taking I would consider Supernote or Remarkable (Voja seems enthusiastic about the first). If you instead use it to read tons of papers (and take notes on this), I would then go for Tab-X at the moment.
Great review! Question...looking to buy first e-ink tablet...should I get the Tab Ultra C or the Tab X? I'm looking to use it for note-taking at work/meetings and also for reading books, bible study, etc.. Thank you so much.
I don't have the pedal, so I don't know how quickly it works, but since it is a BT controller, essentially, then I'd imagine that it should work as quick as a BT keyboard, and that certainly works quick enough.
Hi Voja, thank you very much for the comprehensive and helpful review! I have a question about using the Tab X as a monitor with a laptop. Do you use the Super Display app? Also, do you think it's better to use a wireless connection to make sure it's not charging and discharging at the same time? I'm looking forward to the dedicated video on this topic, but I'm curious about your thoughts.
Is there any hope about the tilt recognition being improved and above all ported to other devices as well? I own a Nova Air soon to be replaced by a Note Air (1st gen)
ciao, very good review. I know that the question is difficult: i need a device for taking notes in my job; what do you suggest? REMARKABLE 2or TAB? please I'm interested in your opinion......please without considering the difference of price; thanks
Thank you for the great review, it was very comprehensive. However, there was one capability I’m interested in that wasn’t touched upon. Being a tablet, is it possible to print directly from the device or do you have to export to a PC to print anything?
I really think Boox would benefit from taking a pause, reviewing their software instead of releasing new devices non-stop. The current state of their software is very unstable, I feel they will benefit significantly as a company to take a pause on new hardware briefly, clean up their software and continue from there. Right now it is very difficult for me to recommend a boox device to anyone I know even though they have the most potential.
I tend to agree, but I would be able to recommend a Boox device, but with a big provision, which is the learning curve and the unintuitive UX. Those are big ones, but if a person is willing to get along with it, you will get simply the most powerful, functional, and versatile device on the market. You will trip over the OS more often than you should, but you will also be able to do things other platforms can only dream of.
@@wernerarts Yes. And no. My mother could not use a laptop 15 years ago with heavy support from family. That has changed over the years due to UX improvements.
@@MyDeepGuideHi I would like to use a tab X for having video conference. Beside reading and writing :) but not necessary simultaneously. It is possible to instal a webcam and/or a keyboard using the Bluetooth and/or usb-c capabilities? Looking forward!
I don't have it to compare directly against, but from what I remember, I think that the Tab Ultra and TabX actually perform better and cleaner than the Mira monitor.
What a great review! I totally agree with the conclusions, that is, while the overall performance is wonderful, the lack of SD card slot and dedicated keyboard makes this device an unpractical update for me, especially since I already own a Max Lumi (1). Also, I am interested in what they plan to do on the color side of things. Since 13.3 inch color e-ink device is not likely, there is always an option to wait for the Lenovo ThinkBook Plus Twist, available from around June, which will feature a 12 inch color e-inch screen (albeit not Gallery 3), along with the OLED screen.
Yes, but over time it will scratch the surface of the screen over a period of years, so you would need to use a screen protector in conjunction with the a ceramic/titanium pens.
Hello Voya, I love your channel. I'm following your videos carefully because I'm interested in an ereader, but I'm worried that I won't be able to give it the use I need. I am interested in being able to make comments and be able to interact with apps like Mendeley or Zotero. Because otherwise, my work would be doubled. Which inktablet do you recommend? I appreciate your response.
I have been paid to use Apple os (soft. engineer for 3 years on macOS), and I left my job in part due to this. Probably the worse OS on earth. But, as french people says "Tous les goût sont dans la nature"
Can somebody tell where hand written annotations to PDF documents are stored? Are they embedded into the PDF or stored separately? So is it easy to transfer annotated PDFs to the PC or share them with other people?
Boox products are confusing to me. They are quite clearly market leaders when it comes to hardware but they seem to push out products very often without a clear idea of what the defining novelty should be, and the software, while powerful, lacks a sense of direction and coherence in design. Very much a "throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks"-approach. I love that they are pushing the limits of e-ink devices but I will wait for a company with a more planful approach to pick up some of their innovations.
Battery. I would LOVE the ability to disable the GPU for if i were going on a camping vacation or some such where i would want days and days of battery. Even just lots of travel.
How does it feel surfing the web with it? I need a device of similar qualities to access research papers online on a regular basis and am in the process of trying to narrow down my options for the ideal device. I am watching your video, and you do get into it at the 20 minute mark, but I would appreciate if you could elaborate, of course only if you have the time. After finishing your video review, if I understand correctly the device will not be physically able to have a keyboard case connected to it, and one will only be able to use Bluetooth for a keyboard connection. That is a big shame, and as a result i think I will not be buying it. Do you recommend another e ink product that allows for good internet surfing, annotating and reading in addition to having a physically detachable keyboard that does not require bluetooth? basically the attachable keyboard is very important to me as I need to write a lot as well as read a lot in my profession. Ideally I would buy a small e ink laptop, but there does not seem to be one available yet.
@@MyDeepGuide Thank you. I that was what I leaning towards as well. May I ask, do you suffer from some ocular pathology, such as chronic dry eye, which is why you gravitate towards these eye friendlier products? I am asking because E ink devices have been a life changing technological innovation for folks with eye issues such as myself.
@@SludgeMan90 People love e-ink readers for several reasons 1. unlike regular tablets, they are easy on the eyes 2. amazing battery life that is measured in terms of weeks, not hours 3. amazing annotating capabilities that no regular tablet can come close to matching 4. great notetaking capabilities 5. portability
Hey Deep Guide, I've had some huge Quality Control issues with the Tab X. I've been getting permanent white pixels (similar to this ua-cam.com/video/8hWppSGJE24/v-deo.html). Have you had any issues like that with Boox products? Have you had any issues with with permanent white pixels with the Tab X/Ultra series? I'm on my 2nd Tab X and it still has this issue for me. I'd like to know your experience when it comes to Boox with Quality Control issues. Thankfully I ordered from Amazon so it's super easy to return at least.
Sorry to hear that. I don't see any white pixels on my Tab X. The only time I saw some was back when Max Lumi 1 was released. I don't usually have a chance to check multiple units of the same model (which would be necessary) so I can't really comment on QC since a single unit from a line up doesn't really tell me much. What I do know is that my Pen2Pro squeaks and other people reported that theirs don't.
If Boox had quality control issues there would be class-action lawsuits filed, similar to the one's filed against Apple MacBooks every single year. Since there are no such class action lawsuits, Boox does not have quality control issues.
Great review! Now if only someone could find a way to make a notebook computer that does NOT connect to the Internet, features both a CF and an SD card slot, and has one of these great screens as the display! If someone does design one, please sign me up for the first purchase.
This is not as good review as the one you did on BOOX utlra C. Boox Tab X comes from Max Lumi and Max Lumi is a eReader and this one is tablet. So the review should first focus on this difference, what kind of difference between this one and the Max Lumi makes it a tablet ..
I'm never going to buy something that expensive, I'll be waiting for the Kobo Elipsa replacement or Amazon to fix their software on the Scribe. But, really I just commented because you made me laugh (and feel old) with your comment on its size hahahahha: ua-cam.com/video/guvtJDi8t-U/v-deo.html
I put like on this video, but Voja, Is it not good to make a video of one and half hour like this, you repeat a lot of ideas during the video over and over again. I write this with the best intentions to help you improve the channel, I hope I don't offend you. Thanks for sharing all this.
Much too expensive! I don't believe, that manufacturing of this tablets is THAT exceptional expensive. I belive, that they want to make a big profit with people, who know what's good, or want do "prove", that conventional tablets are better. Why? Well, in this Technologie the battery holds *MUCH* longer and the main reason for changing the device to a new one - a worn out battery - ist no longer existent. That batterys in tablets are NOT interchangeable is no coincidence and not necessary. The only reason for this design is to sell new devices.
The display panel alone costs somewhere around $500-600 wholesale. Name me one mainstream, big brand tablet released in 2022 or 2023 that has a battery that can be replaced by the user?
@@insaciableshakuras190 what a stupid answer! 👎 The problem ist *not,* to develope good products and sell them, but the planned obsolescence of very expensive products only for the purpose to sell new models. Which would be avoidable very easy with interchangeable batterys.
Definitely would like to see battery access. That being said, this should be a great usable product for many years, assuming they keep up the security patching. As for the price. Seems about right. I bet their margin is not huge.
@@ericjackson-nq4hp I bought scribe. Not gonna compromise on picture quality, which actually is both most important and overlooked e-reader parameter. Regarding pdf reading, which is what I bought is for, I have to say that letters size is tolerable, not perfect unfortunately, crispnes is great. If there were 13 inch kindle scribe, I'd go for it.
The keyboard language problem is a bug that they will fix with the next update. You can enable it with 3rd party software right now if you want to avoid waiting. For the rest of the critique, I think it's a little nit-picking. Keyboard cases would only be available for an English language anyway. It works out of the box with a USB hub (excluding the keyboard language) so I am satisfied with it. I think the only 'real' non-feature is the missing of a sdcard slot.
I don't think it's nit picking, it's objectively looking at a platform with as little bias as possible, because what may be of little relevance to you or me, might be a deal breaker for another person, and at €950, that factor becomes quite an important one.
@@MyDeepGuide Yeah, you are right to mention these problems. Personally, I am glad that the device is as fast and usable as shown. And I am glad that the screen isn't as glare as the last ones. So yes, these might be cons, but probably not big ones for most of the people. ;)
@@MyDeepGuide For me the design is an absolute no go. It's not a Tab X - it's a Max Lumi X with Tab firmware. The design, the pogo pins, the SD slot, the camera are missing for a "tab".
I just got my Tab X delivered today after a 3 month wait. Your video is most informative and I'm sure to be using it as I navigate through the device. Thank you!
Dear Voja, thanks for yet another timely and meticulous review. Much appreciated!
what a great, in depth review - exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
Thank you for watching! :)
I installed the "beta" version of the firmware, and found it includes many very interesing features: searches in handwriting texts, improved GUI...
I think the booxdrop is really a fantastic tool: easy sharing of files with any device, and without cloud (Yes, I care about my privacy).
The negative of this tablet, so far is the localization/internationalization: very few keyboard layouts, missing time zones, no automatic detection of the text language, difficulty to mix several languages in the same text, etc.. Not a bloquer, but it's worth mentioning.
Generally speaking, very happy with the device and it software.
Loved the excellent review! And what a WONDERFUL kitty :)!
Thanks for the thorough initial review. I’ll be in the market for this one later this year. Looking forward to learning more from you.
THank you for the bonus cat content!!
Timestamp pls!
Near the start of the video. And I'm with Sara, that was a great touch.
Great and very detailed review/feedback. Thank you!
Thanks for the review, gonna wait for future iteration
More than an excelent review Voja! Welcome to the club of Tab X owners :-) I am waiting to see your screen cast / external monitor review (Tab X)...
Your videos are so thorough and comprehensive. They have been a huge help for a ereader neophyte like me. I am wondering if you can address the issue of reliable resellers and the risk around warranties and returns with Boox, i live in Canada. Amazon Canada does not carry Boox products and there is one tiny store in Canada who claim to be an official seller. I have read all sorts of less than pleasing comments about various websites that sell Boox products and the difficult nature of Boox’s customer service. It is really holding me back from buying one and pushing me towards a scribe or a Elipsa just for the peace of mind. Thank you !!!
Do you have any experience with Dasung Not eReader 133? I would like to use it as second monitor to my laptop and I'm considering which one will be better? I'm software developer and I will be use it for programming, reading books and watching online courses. Which one would you choose if you were me?
Hello Vojia,
Don you have any dedicated video showing the Boox Tab X as a second display or accessing the Tab X from a PC?
Big thanks.
Regards.
Marco
Ahh, you showed sheet music, which is the main use case I would have for this device.
While I agree with the assessment I am also grateful that Boox continues and with the 13.3" form factor, it seemed for a while that they were giving up on it. Perhaps the next iteration will be what we want and I can upgrade from my Max3
Seriously! I don't get why these companies don't think we want large e-ink screens when PDFs designed for full-size sheets of paper are such a common format.
I think its just price. They've slowly been working prices up now that they're adding color and new tech. Most people are hesitant to buy something like the boox x for 700-900$ depending on where you're getting it. For me, I just want something like a remarkable/supernote but in 13.3 size. The only things that kind of fit that are the quaderno a4 gen 2 and the papyr ( which went out of business unfortunately), and the quaderno has horrendous battery so its out of the question.@@colbyboucher6391
Can we have a moment to admire what a beautiful man he is. Great review
It's obvious that Boox really puts their effort into the 10-inch space as it relates to their notetaking-focused devices. Then they say, let's take the work we did with 10-inchers and throw that into a 13-inch shell and call it a day. That was the case with Lumi 2, and the tradition appears to live on with the X. I understand why people might prefer these devices as it relates to PDF reading and marking, but outside of that, I'd advise everyone to steer clear. The best Boox experience is on the 10-inch space where the sales likely are and that isn't going to change in the foreseeable future.
Agreed. It looks like exactly what you said.
What do you mean? Why is it so bad at 13" but good at 10"
@@robertanderson2424 10.3 Tab Ultra has SD card slot, magnetic place for the pen, dedicated keyboard case, fingerprint reader, 227 ppi, and is overall better made than the 13.3 Tab X which looks like was made just because they could fit that good old 207ppi 13.3 screen with the new GPU in an old case for the few people who might want this size. When they’ll release a 13.3 better made with optimised software, I’ll be the first to order one, but I’ll pass on the Tab X for the reasons above.
@@CyrilJap thanks for explaining!
@@robertanderson2424 I just saw this, sorry for the delay in responding. In addition to what CJ said, let me offer another example. If you see a template on a Boox 10" screen, and let's assume it has 12 lines in that template, than the Boox 13" version will also have 12 lines. But why would that be, as the 13" is larger and has room for additional lines? It's because they just brought the same templates over. Also, look at the care they put in design to the 10" Air devices. There's a style there, an attempt to stand out. But the 13" devices are mainly just basic slabs. Here I will give some points to the X for having some sense of design, but that's a new thing for that size category with Boox. When I had the Max Lumi 2, I was struck by all the little details that made sense on a 10" device but not as much on a 13" screen.
Thank you Voja, I hoped for better battery life and the lack of a magnet on the side is also disappointing. So I keep waiting for better... maybe Supernote will do 13.3" one day!
Correct me if I'm wrong but Kit Masters posted a content about an A4X possibly bring available in 2023
ua-cam.com/video/ygMuXfjwFDA/v-deo.html this
@@maxilogan75 It was slated for the end of the year. It's been pushed to beginning of 2024.
You videos are so soothing, lol
Can you tell Tab X and Mira 13.3, which one is better as a secondary monitor for PC? Thank you.
I’m interested in the Boox Tab X, particularly if it allows two features I use on my Remarkable 2. They are 1) Ability to insert blank pages into a PDF, for example Voya’s MDO. And 2) ‘infinite pages’ where you can scroll down on a blank page and make it longer and longer as you write. Are these features available on the Boox Tab X?
Thanks. I have the note air 2. I will stick with that for now. If I was going to upgrade now, I would go with the Ultra for the sd card. The performance of this new line is exciting.
Thank you for discussing how confusing the Canvas option is. I spent quite a bit of time trying to figure out how to make notes work in landscape versus horizontal mode and it was thoroughly frustrating.
Could you provide a export example of an annotated pdf and an exported note? Would be very nice! Thanks for your great videos.
It is certainly a mystery why Boox failed to update Tab X to a similar state as the 10.3" Ultra version, with keyboard connection pins and keyboard cover, micro-SD port, (ungodly camera bump on the rear instead of properly embedded cameras like Bigme), and a magnetic case and pen attach. They do have the best software suite, even if it comes across as a "work in progress". Perhaps the slightly increased pen latency is a property of the 13.3" e-ink panel itself rather than the GPU or software. Nevertheless, I am sure you will enjoy reading large format .PDFs on it, slight warts and all. Another very complete Voja Deep Dive.
This. I'm hoping for a 13.3" Boox Tab Ultra C.
@@thibaldus3me too
I would love to see SuperNote implement all of this same functionality in a new A4X but implement it all in a better way. So much of what this does looks really cool, but then seems to fall short on the implementation, as you point out perfectly so many times. But this device is aimed at so many of the right things.
Amazing in-depth review, as always. Thank you! I've got a question. I'm using Note Air (1) to study and it's been great so far. In case I buy another e-ink tablet in the future, I like Boox ecosystem, but I'm missing the spaciousness of a 13.3 screen and the colours for markers and schemes. When do you think we can see something like that? 🤓
Well, we can see a lot of other manufacturers going with the Kaleido 3 and Gallery 3 screens this year, so maybe this year Boox will also do a bigger color push? I really don't know, but their GPU technology would make a heck of a lot of sense for Kaleido screens, to help combat the deficiencies of that technology.
@@MyDeepGuide that would be great. I'm happy with my device so far, so I don't mind waiting. Btw, congrats for your purchase! And thanks for the reply 😊
Hi. Would you happen to know if the problems with the keyboard have been solved? Are we now able to choose between different languages? Does it include exotic keyboard, like Greek Polytonic or Hebrew? Thank you.
A significant drawback of my iPad is the screen feels slippery to write on. As a result, I have trouble writing neatly on it. I was concerned after reading other commenters on the Internet that the Boox devices would also be slippery in this way, so it's very interesting to learn from you that the feel of the Tab X is different than the Tab Ultra. I don't care if the screen is specifically "paper-like"; I'm just looking for a screen that is relatively easy to write neatly on. I've ordered a Tab X from Best Buy, taking advantage of the long holiday return period to be able to try it out and see if it's for me.
Thank you for your videos; I keep learning things from them that I don't find anywhere else.
How do you feel about the screen-writing friction now that you have it? I have a remarkable 1 and boox note air, and the writing feel between them is quite different
@@thewaffle003 The friction on the iPad is better. It's still not as good as my boox tab x, but it's as good for the iPad as it's been.
I see. How do you feel about the Tab X writing feel in general? I guess you're saying it's better than ipad in terms of friction. Any other thoughts about it?
@@thewaffle003 It's good, though maybe it could have even a little more friction. I've never tried the Remarkable.
@@mistymouse6840 Gotcha. Thanks for the replies.
Hi Voja,
Thanks, been looking forward to this! There is a "standard" template in the cloud section that has both 24 and 30 lines. The 30 lines are pretty good on the 13.3" screen. Do you not consider this a "standard" template?
Also, the screen friction test continues to be interesting. I think that the Tab X is way smoother than the rM2 when writing side by side with the same pen (either rM or boox pro 2). I guess that glossy feeling is not friction, but I don't know what else it could be? Writing on the tab X feels like writing on an OLED glass screen tablet to me.
I have a proposal (to Boox) for Tab X proper name: "Max Tab Air". Max (13.3" device); Tab (New User Interface, GPU, Speed, similar to Tab Ultra); Air (Thinner, Lighter for the size, Minimalistic and user friendly design like other Air devices). I hope that the Boox software team will consider the MDG / Voja comments/recommendations in future software updates (to improve the battery life by bypassing the GPU in settings, to improve links in Notes and Neo Reader, external keyboard use, simple screencast and use the device like an external monitor, landscape-portrait canvas management in Notes, files management/local backup in native notes format, etc.)
When is Boox coming out with a 13.3" color eink device? Boox Tab X C perhaps?
Hello.
The max lumi 2 is very slow. Especially with the notes of more than 20 pages.
Is the Tab X more efficient on this point?
How hard would it be to program the possibility of templates where you define the line/dot intensity and distance between?! They should just do it. And add it to all their devices.
Does it have the same tactile "writing-on-paper" feeling as the Remarkable 2? If not which Boox E-note is the closest to "writing-on-paper" feeling?
If you want that, check out his Doodroo screen protector videos.
About the button- to me that is the most used button on my Boox device, virtual buttons included.
Actually what I have got from your review are all pretty positive news for me. I just need a good big document reader have a good screen, the tab ultra seems have reflective screen issue. I am going to get this one..
Great and comprehensive review of the Tab X, thank you. Do you think front light uniformity is better on the Tab Ultra than the Tab X? Is text clarity on the Tab X using normal mode as good as on the Tab Ultra? I'm thinking of getting the Tab X instead of Tab Ultra due to bigger screen and more RAM memory but prefer the device that has the best text clarity and backlight uniformity.
May I know if any new firmware updates solve the auto sleep problem?
About 15:00 : It would be helpful to include some still-fotos, maybe next time? Thanks!
How do you manage folders?
I have thousands of PDFs I like to put in folders and merge, delete, combine, etc...Can't find anything on that. I can create folders, but not much info on anything else. Help? :)
Great review! I'm looking for an a4 device for sheet music, both practicing and performing. Would you recommend boox tab X? Or maybe could you recommend something else?
Thanks. I wish Quaderno A4 would be good, but I am worried by your video showing how unpleasant file transfer is, and I understand there is no autosync? Or is there? Anyway, I wondered if anyone could say what is the best way to sync files to PC or cloud with boox? Still prefer light weight of the Quaderno, but sync is a make or break issue for me.
It would be nice, if you could add the possibilities for people with eye problems- this big screen should be able to show text in a much bigger way ? The 4 quarters is nonsense, if the text is fractured in two parts - or is it possible to display the upper 2 parts in landscape ?
It is possible to arrange it in any way you wish. You can also use the split screen functionality, or turn the device to landscape format and then fit to width, and you can even adjust the size of the system font. So all of the possibilities are there, but you need to learn how to use the device.
Is the image quality better than the 13.3” Mira? Can’t decide which would be better as a second monitor.
Thank for this in depth review ! Though I'm wondering : what about the case ? Is it good ?
Hello Voja. I'm a student and i have to read a lot of newspapers, articles and make bulky notes too. Will you recommend this device for my use?
I am new to the e-ink tablet space. I have a burning question:
Has the Tab X handwriting to digital text conversion capability?
Does the handwriting recognition capability work without being connected on-line to BOOX servers ( or such like )? In short is it a viable alternative to pen and paper?
Hi Voja!
Thanks so much for all these in-depth reviews!
I think it doesn't act like a flagship device because *the Max series was never intended to be the flagship*
It's expensive mostly because it's big, and you have techincal issues scaling eink panel with the implied batery drain (more ink capsules that need to be physically moved), frontlight that needs to be distributed uniformly (so maybe more units fail quality checks?)
It's just a niche device, for those few people who really want the big screen - for most, portability & weight & price might lead to choosing a smaller device.
It's big to serve this niche user segment, not necessarily to impress.
Onyx always innovated with the 10.3 and 7.8 inch devices, and then *maybe* updated the Max series to match the new design, a year or so later.
So I think it's unfair to judge any Max device as a flagship device. Doesn't it make more sense, if you see it as a stretch into a niche?
To me, no, it doesn't make more sense. It's rather simple, average buyer will take a look at a product range, and when they see the biggest device, which is the most expensive one, and with beefiest specifications, well, that's a flagship, or, it's supposed to be one.
People are different... In my case bigger = better (in many other cases also ;-). The device is expensive, but the value of my eye sight/vision is much greater. And the price difference between Boox 10.3" and 13.3" devices is similar to price for new good quality prescription glases...
Even for low vision people, landscape mode and a huge font on 10.3 might just be enough. Not in all cases, but onyx act like for them 13 inch is not a priority
Bought one too. I hope they will fix those software issues. I also think that, despite the improvements, they can still make the OS more accessible and the learning curve less steep. The manual is ridiculously bad and icons often "unguessable". Luckily the Onyx community is large so Internet often provides answers, but as you said, for a flagship...
ciao Marco, i want to buy one but I also like the REMARKABLE2, how is your experience with the TAB X? do you have some advise about my choice?
@@andreagiaretta2456 I think I cannot add much that Voja already did not cover. To read papers, I definitely prefer the 13.3 format and the ability/freedom to customize the page for optimal reading/notes taking that Book gives you. However, the Boox system sometimes can be too much for me. They added so many things that the learning curve is quite steep. For quick notes-taking I still find myself use the R2. Especially because I can keep the R2 on sleep instead of power off for weeks, giving me super fast access on the go. in summary, it depends on your use. For note-taking I would consider Supernote or Remarkable (Voja seems enthusiastic about the first). If you instead use it to read tons of papers (and take notes on this), I would then go for Tab-X at the moment.
Great review! Question...looking to buy first e-ink tablet...should I get the Tab Ultra C or the Tab X? I'm looking to use it for note-taking at work/meetings and also for reading books, bible study, etc.. Thank you so much.
I have the Boox Tab x 13.3 and would like one just like it half the size. Which one do you suggest?
Can't wait for the Supernote A4 X2
My Deep Guide, is tab x a good device to read piano sheet music? Does it work well and fast with a pedal to change the sheets back and forward?
I don't have the pedal, so I don't know how quickly it works, but since it is a BT controller, essentially, then I'd imagine that it should work as quick as a BT keyboard, and that certainly works quick enough.
Have you heard any rumours about a higher res 13inch screen coming to market soon? I feel like this is the only thing lagging.
A Rick Beato fan? Good taste!
Hi Voja, thank you very much for the comprehensive and helpful review! I have a question about using the Tab X as a monitor with a laptop. Do you use the Super Display app? Also, do you think it's better to use a wireless connection to make sure it's not charging and discharging at the same time? I'm looking forward to the dedicated video on this topic, but I'm curious about your thoughts.
😳Is the option to turn dithering on and off on the Tab Ultra too? I need to turn it off for videos.
what option are you talking about? I watched the video but didn't see it
@@thomaslaurent6815 ua-cam.com/video/B7XuRypJ6Ww/v-deo.html
Is there any hope about the tilt recognition being improved and above all ported to other devices as well? I own a Nova Air soon to be replaced by a Note Air (1st gen)
I don't have any concrete information, but I don't see a reason why it wouldn't be a part of their entire lineup of the devices.
@@MyDeepGuidethanks Voja, you work is invaluable, and it's a pleasure to hear your English, super clear.
Nice instruments collection too 😅
ciao, very good review. I know that the question is difficult: i need a device for taking notes in my job; what do you suggest? REMARKABLE 2or TAB? please I'm interested in your opinion......please without considering the difference of price; thanks
Thank you for the great review, it was very comprehensive. However, there was one capability I’m interested in that wasn’t touched upon. Being a tablet, is it possible to print directly from the device or do you have to export to a PC to print anything?
Like on any other Android device, you can print directly from the device.
The a5x is the lowest in friction??
I really think Boox would benefit from taking a pause, reviewing their software instead of releasing new devices non-stop. The current state of their software is very unstable, I feel they will benefit significantly as a company to take a pause on new hardware briefly, clean up their software and continue from there. Right now it is very difficult for me to recommend a boox device to anyone I know even though they have the most potential.
I tend to agree, but I would be able to recommend a Boox device, but with a big provision, which is the learning curve and the unintuitive UX. Those are big ones, but if a person is willing to get along with it, you will get simply the most powerful, functional, and versatile device on the market. You will trip over the OS more often than you should, but you will also be able to do things other platforms can only dream of.
@@MyDeepGuide It's always like this: the more a tool can do, the more you have to learn to use it.
@@wernerarts Yes. And no. My mother could not use a laptop 15 years ago with heavy support from family. That has changed over the years due to UX improvements.
You spammed this comment on multiple videos.
@@MyDeepGuideHi
I would like to use a tab X for having video conference. Beside reading and writing :) but not necessary simultaneously.
It is possible to instal a webcam and/or a keyboard using the Bluetooth and/or usb-c capabilities?
Looking forward!
33:38 Did you just call that button a CHICKEN!? :D
To me it clearly looks like a rocket, which would be a fitting symbol for the fast mode.
Then you clearly newer saw a chicken run ;) Chickens are Uber fast 🤣
Dear Voja, how Is Tab x as a monitor compared to boox mira?
I don't have it to compare directly against, but from what I remember, I think that the Tab Ultra and TabX actually perform better and cleaner than the Mira monitor.
Is there an update in software by now? I got one a while ago and returned it because the UX is terrible …
Yes, it receives them on a regular basis, same as other Boox devices. Not much improvements on the UX front, I'm afraid.
What a great review! I totally agree with the conclusions, that is, while the overall performance is wonderful, the lack of SD card slot and dedicated keyboard makes this device an unpractical update for me, especially since I already own a Max Lumi (1). Also, I am interested in what they plan to do on the color side of things. Since 13.3 inch color e-ink device is not likely, there is always an option to wait for the Lenovo ThinkBook Plus Twist, available from around June, which will feature a 12 inch color e-inch screen (albeit not Gallery 3), along with the OLED screen.
Can you use hom2 pen with ceramic nib on it?
Yes, but over time it will scratch the surface of the screen over a period of years, so you would need to use a screen protector in conjunction with the a ceramic/titanium pens.
Tab X C now! Do it Boox!
With 7 hours of battery? No thanks.
Hi, can this connect to a Bluetooth mouse if you want to? I see it does with a keyboard.
Thanks
In the last chapter before the conclusion I actually specifically do show how a connected mouse works on it. So yeah, it can.
Hello, can you send me that wallpaper 🙏🏻
Would you put a screen protector on it?
If I was able to find a good one, absolutely, but my search has yet to yield good results in that department.
@@MyDeepGuide Any news on your search for one?
Hello Voya, I love your channel. I'm following your videos carefully because I'm interested in an ereader, but I'm worried that I won't be able to give it the use I need. I am interested in being able to make comments and be able to interact with apps like Mendeley or Zotero. Because otherwise, my work would be doubled. Which inktablet do you recommend? I appreciate your response.
Great job, Voja. I hope that one day Apple gets into the E-ink tablet market. We would have an OS easy to figure out…
I'm not a fan of Apple, but yes, that would be such a nice thing to see :)
the sad truth 🤣🤣
I have been paid to use Apple os (soft. engineer for 3 years on macOS), and I left my job in part due to this. Probably the worse OS on earth. But, as french people says "Tous les goût sont dans la nature"
207 DPI (not PPI). A nitpick, but...
I'm actually quite impressed how clear the text is at 207 dpi.
Nope, PPI, Pixels Per Inch, since we are talking about the resolution, which also defines how many horizontal and vertical pixels are displayed.
awwwww kitty
Can somebody tell where hand written annotations to PDF documents are stored? Are they embedded into the PDF or stored separately? So is it easy to transfer annotated PDFs to the PC or share them with other people?
That GPU is really widening the gap between Boox and their competitors.
Boox products are confusing to me. They are quite clearly market leaders when it comes to hardware but they seem to push out products very often without a clear idea of what the defining novelty should be, and the software, while powerful, lacks a sense of direction and coherence in design. Very much a "throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks"-approach.
I love that they are pushing the limits of e-ink devices but I will wait for a company with a more planful approach to pick up some of their innovations.
Battery.
I would LOVE the ability to disable the GPU for if i were going on a camping vacation or some such where i would want days and days of battery. Even just lots of travel.
How does it feel surfing the web with it? I need a device of similar qualities to access research papers online on a regular basis and am in the process of trying to narrow down my options for the ideal device. I am watching your video, and you do get into it at the 20 minute mark, but I would appreciate if you could elaborate, of course only if you have the time.
After finishing your video review, if I understand correctly the device will not be physically able to have a keyboard case connected to it, and one will only be able to use Bluetooth for a keyboard connection. That is a big shame, and as a result i think I will not be buying it. Do you recommend another e ink product that allows for good internet surfing, annotating and reading in addition to having a physically detachable keyboard that does not require bluetooth? basically the attachable keyboard is very important to me as I need to write a lot as well as read a lot in my profession. Ideally I would buy a small e ink laptop, but there does not seem to be one available yet.
Well, I guess Tab Ultra C would fit that bill really well :)
@@MyDeepGuide Thank you. I that was what I leaning towards as well. May I ask, do you suffer from some ocular pathology, such as chronic dry eye, which is why you gravitate towards these eye friendlier products? I am asking because E ink devices have been a life changing technological innovation for folks with eye issues such as myself.
@@SludgeMan90 People love e-ink readers for several reasons
1. unlike regular tablets, they are easy on the eyes
2. amazing battery life that is measured in terms of weeks, not hours
3. amazing annotating capabilities that no regular tablet can come close to matching
4. great notetaking capabilities
5. portability
Completely OT, I had to pause this and go rewatch "The First Guy to Ever Drink Milk" again before I could concentrate on the review! 😀
It's just too good 😂
Nobody comments on the cat in the background 😂😂.
Glad to see the camera is gone. (Not my preference to have it.)
Thanks for your test, but you completely forgot to test manga :(
I didn't forget, I never test manga.
@@MyDeepGuide Graphic novels?
Pricey
Hey Deep Guide,
I've had some huge Quality Control issues with the Tab X. I've been getting permanent white pixels (similar to this ua-cam.com/video/8hWppSGJE24/v-deo.html). Have you had any issues like that with Boox products? Have you had any issues with with permanent white pixels with the Tab X/Ultra series?
I'm on my 2nd Tab X and it still has this issue for me. I'd like to know your experience when it comes to Boox with Quality Control issues.
Thankfully I ordered from Amazon so it's super easy to return at least.
Sorry to hear that. I don't see any white pixels on my Tab X. The only time I saw some was back when Max Lumi 1 was released. I don't usually have a chance to check multiple units of the same model (which would be necessary) so I can't really comment on QC since a single unit from a line up doesn't really tell me much.
What I do know is that my Pen2Pro squeaks and other people reported that theirs don't.
If Boox had quality control issues there would be class-action lawsuits filed,
similar to the one's filed against Apple MacBooks every single year.
Since there are no such class action lawsuits, Boox does not have quality control issues.
Great review! Now if only someone could find a way to make a notebook computer that does NOT connect to the Internet, features both a CF and an SD card slot, and has one of these great screens as the display! If someone does design one, please sign me up for the first purchase.
Give me a white version!
This is not as good review as the one you did on BOOX utlra C. Boox Tab X comes from Max Lumi and Max Lumi is a eReader and this one is tablet. So the review should first focus on this difference, what kind of difference between this one and the Max Lumi makes it a tablet ..
This is Max Lumi 3 with a GPU, regardless of what Boox want to sell it or market it as, so it compares to Max series of devices directly.
I'm never going to buy something that expensive, I'll be waiting for the Kobo Elipsa replacement or Amazon to fix their software on the Scribe. But, really I just commented because you made me laugh (and feel old) with your comment on its size hahahahha: ua-cam.com/video/guvtJDi8t-U/v-deo.html
I put like on this video, but Voja, Is it not good to make a video of one and half hour like this, you repeat a lot of ideas during the video over and over again. I write this with the best intentions to help you improve the channel, I hope I don't offend you. Thanks for sharing all this.
I use a free android app to change the go to sleep setting to off.
Which?
Name please
The app name is « Screen Off Timeout »
Much too expensive! I don't believe, that manufacturing of this tablets is THAT exceptional expensive.
I belive, that they want to make a big profit with people, who know what's good, or want do "prove", that conventional tablets are better. Why? Well, in this Technologie the battery holds *MUCH* longer and the main reason for changing the device to a new one - a worn out battery - ist no longer existent. That batterys in tablets are NOT interchangeable is no coincidence and not necessary. The only reason for this design is to sell new devices.
The display panel alone costs somewhere around $500-600 wholesale.
Name me one mainstream, big brand tablet released in 2022 or 2023 that has a battery that can be replaced by the user?
I can't imagine a company, any company that doesn't release a product to sell it...
@@insaciableshakuras190 what a stupid answer! 👎
The problem ist *not,* to develope good products and sell them, but the planned obsolescence of very expensive products only for the purpose to sell new models. Which would be avoidable very easy with interchangeable batterys.
Definitely would like to see battery access. That being said, this should be a great usable product for many years, assuming they keep up the security patching.
As for the price. Seems about right. I bet their margin is not huge.
@@kaptnkirk2740 Where have you learned to be that kind of a diplomat ?
with all due respect, dude, when you're trying to show the crispness of letters, don't damn move your camera, let us see please!
@@ericjackson-nq4hp I bought scribe. Not gonna compromise on picture quality, which actually is both most important and overlooked e-reader parameter. Regarding pdf reading, which is what I bought is for, I have to say that letters size is tolerable, not perfect unfortunately, crispnes is great. If there were 13 inch kindle scribe, I'd go for it.
why wave hands over the product all the time? dude, you have to do something else or put some mind into this
The keyboard language problem is a bug that they will fix with the next update. You can enable it with 3rd party software right now if you want to avoid waiting.
For the rest of the critique, I think it's a little nit-picking. Keyboard cases would only be available for an English language anyway. It works out of the box with a USB hub (excluding the keyboard language) so I am satisfied with it.
I think the only 'real' non-feature is the missing of a sdcard slot.
I don't think it's nit picking, it's objectively looking at a platform with as little bias as possible, because what may be of little relevance to you or me, might be a deal breaker for another person, and at €950, that factor becomes quite an important one.
@@MyDeepGuide Yeah, you are right to mention these problems. Personally, I am glad that the device is as fast and usable as shown. And I am glad that the screen isn't as glare as the last ones.
So yes, these might be cons, but probably not big ones for most of the people. ;)
@@MyDeepGuide For me the design is an absolute no go.
It's not a Tab X - it's a Max Lumi X with Tab firmware.
The design, the pogo pins, the SD slot, the camera are missing for a "tab".