I spent a week with the Vulp Pro, here's what I learned...
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Today I talk about my week with the brand new Nabalis Vulp Pro!
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Hey guys, 2 things I forgot to mention in this video.
1. I wish I could've commented on the flipping experience without the bottom weights, but obviously I can't. That being said it is worth mentioning that if you prefer them out for that less handle biased experience then you have to deal with the G10 being unsecured at the bottom.
2. One more nitpick, I hate how the end weights stick out at the bottom. It isn't a huge deal (especially considering I forgot to mention it) but it is something that has annoyed me over my week with the VP.
Thanks guys!
Maybe the sticking out is part of why they don't come out, since mine don't particularly stick out of the handles much
i got a nautilus v2 a while ago but the tang pins fell off and some other stuff has made it well broken, would you reccomend me send it back or get the vulp pro
I feel like while $140 isnt a terrible price for what your getting with the vulp pro, but there are so many better options for that price range i.e. Prysma, blemished prysma pro, orion (ik you already mentioned this). SO while $140 isnt a bad price for a g10 7075 alu channel balisong, I personally think that Prysma is a MUCH better option for this price range. Nabalis could never compete with the MW tolerandces QC and warrtanty.
But with the Prysma you're getting a less durable grade aluminum and an arguably less grippy design. I don't disagree that it's a better option but so many people just immediately point to it even though some people might not consider it better based on what they're looking for.
The reason I use blade bias videos as purchase advice is because my preferences line up with yours almost perfectly
I’ve really been enjoying mine. I think the price is right considering the design and everything that comes with it. I just wish the end pivots were easily removable without worrying about the G10 (yes I could glue them down, not ideal though). I also wish the handle gap was quite a bit smaller, as you mentioned it’s only on this first run apparently but it still bothers me. Hopefully they will make a purple/black at some point. I think my complaints are fairly minor though. Overall it’s a home run, they did an amazing job and it’s a MASSIVE upgrade over the Vulp.
I wish I was able to comment on the experience of not having the end weights in 😵💫
I just realized watching you has completely changed my flipping style, I do you're exact combos. and I didn't do them before watching you
Funny enough that's how I used to be with Will, watching his videos so much subconsciously changed my style
@@BladeBias crazy how the mind works huh
in this vid why does he kinda sound like hicupp for how to train your dragon
I had the same issue with my bottom pivots. I had to jam a screw driver in there and beat it until it pushed the pivot through. I tried three separate times before it actually worked.
I think the QC issues should be talked about more. For $140 and being called a "Pro" it should have kinks like this worked out. Ultimately this is part of an upgrade path that I'm not sure a pro flipper would get in on. I'll need to try one out eventually. I probably would have bought one at launch had they had purple/black but glad I didn't.
I feel alright about the pricing however I do think that it could be 20$ cheaper. A Prysma is 140$ and arguably a better flipper, but the Vulp does have the g10.
Not just the g10, also the better aluminum
@@ortanicallity true. Thank you.
For me I think the price just warrants the look. It’s a subjective take which is why I’m not shouting it but I just think the design is kinda… ugly
Womp fucking Womp broke bitch😊
I’m about to pull the trigger on the black and white on amazon. I’ve got a question though if you’ll indulge me. Do you know if it’ll be the second run without the large handle gap? Appreciate your time bro and always waiting for your next video!
I'm pretty sure the handle gap has been resolved at this point
Why isn’t it a good beginner balisong?
No hate to Brandon or Will. I love those guys. But I was honestly taken aback by the initial price of the Vulp pro. From my perspective, It's a pretty big ask to have a Chinese made balisong compete with the likes of Machinewise, Glidr Co., and or Squid Industries in terms of build quality and longevity. Looking at the specs and niceties, I kind of see this as a $100 to $120 offering instead of a $140 one. I think it would be a tactically smart move to offer the Vulp pro as a more competitively priced alternative to the Mako, or even the Orion instead of an initial dip to compete against some of the more reputable mid-range options. After all, if you're paying double the price of the Vulp, then one should expect double the experience. I haven't flipped it, so I cannot say for certain if that's the case. However, I do think that including similar sub-par hardware, oil, and loctite into the package is not enough of a justification to bump the price an extra ten or so Washingtons. I think I wouldn't complain to have a cheaper Vulp pro if it didn't have those things. The case is very appreciated though. If there is one advantage, the Vulp pro presents itself as a widely accessible flipper thanks to Amazon, which is typically a sore point for most mid range offerings besides Squid Industries.
It doesn't help that the Vulp pro is somewhat seen as the revised vulp with refinements that could have been addressed in the base model as a Vulp v2. It's like trying to compare the base Honda Civic to the Civic type R in price. At the end of the day, they're both completely different cars, but to the casual car buyer it's still seen as a more expensive Civic. There's no doubt that it can flip, like you've demonstrated. However, I'm still somewhat concerned about the G10 integration that could prove as a point of failure if someone was going to give the Vulp Pro the beater business. And if the base Vulp is to be considered, I can only imagine this being an even bigger nightmare to take apart when time comes to do maintenence and deep tuning. At the end of the day, I do not discourage anyone interested in the Vulp Pro. I may pick one up myself way later down the line as I would love to support Will and Brandon for their fine creation. But I would be lying to your face if I said that I don't see the Vulp pro as a slight tad overpriced.
everytime i watch your videos and see your guitar i wonder what you can do. if im being honest you should start a second channel just for gaming and guitar stuff would love to see that content from you too.
Absolutely nothing
Congrats on the 100% ROR2! I've played ROR1 before and really enjoyed it but don't have the second game yet.
Highly recommend the second one!
The zenith trainer has 7075 aluminum handles and it’s 60 dollars
It’s also CHUNKY
It also iirc has no milling and a bead last finish with a very cost-effective production cost
This is the kind of argument that makes 0 sense. Yes the Zenith has the same aluminum and is less than half the price, but that is ignoring everything else like features, finish, add ons, tuning (probably). The two don't even compete with each other based on the one I tried at blade show because of how much the vulp pro adds to the experience.
Would you say that the vulp pro could still be used by beginners?
Sure
mine came with. ton of play and tap and now i have to figure out how to change hardware, im scared.
my first bali was the tattoo dragon thing. I sold that for like $10 more and bought a different one for abt the same price. like $14. getting this soon as an upgrade from a $14 bali to a $160 balisong
Wait a sec; you said you think it's crazy that people use your videos to make purchase decisions, but like one minute later you talk about how you want people to be aware of a couple things because you think it's important that people are aware of them before they make a purchase decision... ?
I assume that I'm just misunderstanding something here; that just stood out to me as a bit of a contradiction lol
You clearly missed the part where I said that I might think it's crazy but it's still something that happens and I can't stop you, so here you go. Stop trying to poke holes in nothing
@@BladeBiasi mean content like urs is pretty much the only/best way to inform purchase decisions on balis because of how subjective the experience is. Jus bc you're called blade bias doesn't really change that.
edit: Ty's barracuda vid is even on the bbarfly website for that purposr
sadly it's 1400R$ in Brazil (the minimum wage is like 1200 per month) it's so expensive, I'll probably never have a vulp pro in Brazil, I need to get out of here asap 💀
You know I got to comment about the price but it's not going to be what you think... I think the price is perfectly fair considering you're buying this to support Will and that's a great reason to purchase this because it is a solid balisong by all accounts and that little extra goes towards supporting Will which is cool 🤘
I fuxking hate squid
Over half their knives are shit and are like 400 dollars
Or the ones that are good
Are around the same level of the vukp pro and are double the price so-
I dont like squid at all
My brother in christ this is a Nabalis video
@@BladeBias im ginna be honest i was so tired when i wrote this i forgot i wrote this
My appologies i have no clue where the hell that came from lmfao
I probably typed a reply to a video on the wrong comment on the wrong UA-cam tab, again my appologies, i do enjoy your content tho and i hope you have a good night!
Got mine today, instructions unclear, 2 blades, one handle
Gold and black absolutely goes hard
I have nothings to say but i love your flipping style
Thanks!
@@BladeBias Love your flipping style and just hoping you will get better in the future, that's all
I primarily flip live blades. Still thinking about getting one of these. Seems pretty solid for the price range.
Can some one give me a cheep one blunt and smooth easy to move I have had a home made one for a year I need a real one but blunt
Pivots ever crazy tight. Boil a pot of water, put the side pivots are stuck in the waters about 10 to 15 seconds, should immediately help it turn. Dissolves loctite or other sealants
Oddly enough, learning to flip on balis with ridiculously pinchy tang areas kinda made it so the g10 on the side doesn't really hit my hand in ricochets or other tricks like that, it's almost like its a little too high up, but when im doing stuff where I need the grip there I hit it so to me it's actually perfect
But to be fair I'm a weird case since I don't get pinched on small handle gaps so
I was wondering would you prefer the mako v5 or the vulp pro for my first balisong over 100$ the best balisong I have right now is the squiddy. Or is there any other recommendations.
I prefer the vulp pro of the two
w vid this go vrazy
I don't know what trainer i should get i either want the nautilus v2 or the vulp pro. Which do you recommend for people who are intermidiate flippers?
I'd prefer the vulp pro
Yoooo that's sick about risk of rain 2, i only have a few achievements left to go
Wicked Sic review!!! Excellent breakdown!!!😀😀😀😀
im new to the community and was considering buying the nautilus, please save me the money and tell me what the issues with it are
The Nautilus V2 is very notorious within the Balisong community as being one of Squid Industries' most inconsistent products from a quality standpoint. There have been cases where the Nautilus V2 has developed tap and play from a few measly drops, alongside having tolerance issues out the box. These issues are not super widespread, but it is definitely more frequent compared to Squid's other products. There is also the conversation about the price. The Nautilus V2 is incredibly expensive for a trainer at $230 for the base ($250 for inked or special edition models). To put in perspective the Krake Raken V3 Trainer, arguably one of the best aluminum flippers on the market, is priced similarly at $220 and is a far superior flipper in my personal opinion. At the end of the day, it all comes down to personal preference. The Nautilus V2 is a lighter balisong with incredible grip due to the G10. Not to mention it is a highly customizable platform thanks to the G10 scales being removable.
If you are wanting a balisong with those factors that are similar to the Nautilus V2, I highly recommend the Nabalis Trident. Aesthetically, it is ... unique. But, it is a very nice cheaper alternative to that of the Nautilus. The Trident is made from the same 7075 aluminum material, is on a bushings system, comes with a small case (I think), and also comes with all the hardware needed to maintain the knife. All in all, I think it is a superior deal overall. However, if those factors really don't matter to you and all you really only want something good to flip, I personally cannot think of a better balisong than the LDY Orion v1.5 trainer, and or even going cheaper with the Vulp.
Love my Vulp pro. Im curious, did you have Zen pin issues? Mine started coming out day one with zero drops and light flipping. Easy fix i guess, but annoying. Multiple people i know of have ad the same issue with the Vulp pro.
Hey how is it holding ?
@@Onjunkrattypeshi One of the Zen pins came out, I glued it back in place. After that it's been fine. I haven't really bashed it though, so I can't say for sure if it would handle much abuse without them popping out again. I reached out to nabalis hoping to see if they recognized it as an issue, and they completely ignored me. Pretty much my experience with them whenever I try to contact them.
@@AceChase. wow alright thank you
slayed🦊
I didn’t even realize there was hate towards this bali. I’ve been really enjoying flipping it. I think with everything you get, it’s a fair price as well. It’s convenient that you can Amazon prime it (especially if you have an amazon gift card laying around) and have it in 2 days.
balde bias
I used your opinion to buy the bionicosi
Nice
I think the only issue with it being 140 is the fact that its gonna have chinese QC issues, so some people are gonna get one with a good tune and no issues but *some* people are going to have shitty bushings, binding, zen pins falling off, cracked G10, stripped hardware from not being hardened enough, etc.
I think 100-110 is perfectly fair though
Also that handle gap needs to be fixed before i even consider buying tbh
Yooooo lovr your stuff adn wanna get a butterfly/balisong knife waht is the best balisong as of now under like 70 usd? thanks and love your stuff!
My only question just flipping wise. Is it a better flipper than a Orion v1.5 or prysma? Kinda a to each it’s own question but we share same preferences somewhat.
holy shit 100% RoR2?how many hours you got dude
300 ish when I completed it now I'm up to 380
@@BladeBias very cool!
i want to get a plastic balisong do you think the edit lite or squiddy is better i've never flipped a plastic balisong before but i have a squid industries tritionv2 what do you think
I had the same issue with the end pivots and they were even sticking pretty far out of the g10 at the bottom and only managed to get one out, I think my end pivots came oversized because I used the spare hardware as a replacement and it fit fine and I'm able to remove it just fine and it fits 'mostly' flush
for the upgrade path from vulp to orion v1.5, trainer or live blade?
hey blade bias, i was wondering when u started flipping and how long it took to get the hang of it?
I also had the same issue with my safe handle bottom pivot, never figured out how to get it out icl
Blade bias is a very big channel compared to other channels so a lot of people only see some Balis here
how does it compare to the orion or the hydra in terms of flipping? I wouldn't mind spending an extra 40 ~60 dollars if it felt much better
It feels very good, I'd put it above the Hydra personally, but if you prefer more neutral flippers then the Orion is the way to go
being not great myself i think i flip much better on the vulp pro than i do things like the SliFT, or a kraken imo
Interesting, do you use the SlifT with or without weights?
5:30 wait I'm not in any discords or anything about balisongs and I don't have social media so I'm kinda out of the loop. Why wouldn't people like Will and Brandon?
People will hate on anything for any amount of reasons
@@BladeBias 😥
I watched this review trying to figure out whether to get the Squid Industries Triton V2 or the Vulp Pro, I think ima go with the Vulp Pro now. Which one do you think i should get??
I like the vulp pro much more
If you have not pulled the trigger yet, then the Vulp Pro for sure. The Vulp Pro is made of more durable materials, comes with a case, comes with all the nice spare hardware and tools needed to help maintain the knife overall, and is on a bushings system unlike the Triton V2 which is only on washers. Flipping experience will be subjective, but I truly think that the Vulp Pro has more than earned its price tag based on what you are getting.
You could tune the handle gap by filing the zen pins down a tiny amount on each side, if it was absolutely essential to you, right?
You could but that's an extremely jank fix for a minor inconvenience
@@BladeBias That's absolutely fair. I can't imagine it'd be more than 5 passes with a mini file. For if it -especially- inconveniences someone though.
i really think people underestimate what they're getting in the vulp pro for 140.
7075 aluminum
g10
hand polish for better grip
insane tolerances.
good luck finding something with all that for 140.
Prysma v1, Blem Prysma pro, Iron v1 and 2 lol
@@Qbert-flp yeah man, none of those have what the vulp pro has besides good tolerances.
the prysma pro is 7075 alu but it's not Polished like the vulp pro and there's no g10.
so again. the prysma and prysma pro are great balisong for the price but the vulp pro at 140 offers more in terms of value and a blem prysma pro in not 140 it's 170 and the prysma v1 is 6061 alu.
the orion is the balisong i would recommend to anyone and although it it 7075 it's not hand polished and it doesn't have g10 so again it doesn't offer everything the vulp pro offers.
maybe only the orion, but its hard to compare due to it being sandwich, has a live blade version, no g10, and pretty different although i would say its a lot harder to buy
but hey i never flipped an orion or vulp pro so i can only disclose by material and design
@@redx6923I'm not saying it's the best at flipping for 140 I'm saying what one is getting for 140 is worth it.
there isn't another balisong that offers what the vulp pro does that is not a clone.
For a mass-produced Chinese bali, the vulp pro is egregiously overpriced. 🙃👎
UPDATE!
This is an updated comment from one that I made a couple of weeks ago. I wish to share my new perspective on this balisong after I spent some more time to ponder. After I have done some more research, getting further educated on the balisong manufacturing process, as well as taken a step back to see all of the things that this balisong comes with compared to others, I personally think this balisong more than earns its price tag. I personally underestimated the overall quality of Nabalis' hardware. The bit that also acts as a pivot needle is an absolute godsend, and is a tool that is loved by many within the community. Lube is lube, and it is better to have some lube than no lube. Am I right fellas ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)? But in all seriousness, the case, hardware, and tools given in-box are some of the best in the industry, and are a really nice inclusion that most other manufacturers don't include.
I also neglected the fact that this balisong is made with 7075 Aluminum, which is a complete miracle that this thing is below $200 considering that almost all the other balisongs within this price range is made of the softer 6061. 7075 is twice as durable, and a bit denser than 6061. This is also not counting in the fact that the G10 integration demands extra milling within this harder material, which results in more consumable milling bits being used in the manufacturing process (which are not cheap). People don't realize that the cutters in the machines that make the balisongs use parts that don't last forever, and get worn down after only making a handful of knives. Also, within the mid range balisong market, there really is no other balisong like the Vulp Pro. The only other balisong that utilizes a hybrid G10 inlay with aluminum is the LDY Cygnus; the very same balisong Will used to inspire the creation of the Vulp Pro. And guess what? The Cygnus is another chinese balisong at a grail price of $570 that many folks really love in the community. So why should the Vulp Pro not be given a chance if folks are loving other chinese made balisongs like the Orion? I want to say that my previous conclusion of this balisong being overpriced was from a point of ignorance. Compared to some of the offerings within the $100 ~ $200 mid-range price point, the Vulp Pro is an objectively exceptional, fantastic value compared to the competition. This is not to mention that this is, in time, a widely available flipper that can be bought on Amazon with all the trimmings of the Bezos customer service. While we may be hesitant to give a Chinese company a chance at premium balisongs given their history of making cheap stuff in the past; Nabalis is truly a company worth supporting. To all who are still not convinced that the Vulp Pro is worth its price tag, I implore you to take a step back and consider the reasoning as to why it is priced as such before calling it a ripoff. Also, if you are trying to downplay how good this flipper is because Will Hirsch designed it, then your bias is getting in the way of how good this package really is. I know not everybody likes Will and Brandon, but I seriously think you should not let personal feelings get in the way of ascertaining a products worth.
Apologies for the long-winded comment. I just needed to get that off my chest. I will be buying this balisong in the gold/black colors as seen in the video once it comes back in stock. Hope more folks out there give this a chance. Have a nice day.
While I never saw your original comment, I can heavily respect the ability to admit you were under informed and do research to further form an opinion.
i never tried taking out the bottom pivot weights until now since you mentioned it, and mine are so stuck they won't even turn, so that is definitely something that's more than just yours
Oorrrrr you can support Balisong Flipping and get a Polaris for $90!!! 7075 hand polished amazing tune and i mean Brandon is cool! Imo it has a better design especially in the handle gap area... And the overall design rly i mean the vulps handles just have way to much goin on you cant tell Will just smashed all his fav balisongs together and called it a day after slapping a wack bottle opener
Yikes...
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