I just knew that pudgey would notice when Ellie laid her cheek against Joel's back! Such a wonderful subtle detail illustrating just how much she's come to love him!
The fact that they didn't tie the horse to the tree is such a great detail. You're not supposed to tie a horse down to anything in case that it gets spooked so it doesnt break it's own neck.
To help elaborate: Runner - Stage 1 (Granny, Sam, etc.) - The infection spreads to the brain and takes over. Runners are super aggressive, uncoordinated, and focused on spreading the infection. (Vast majority of people die before the next stage and only stay runners. Remember the museum scene in episode 2. There were 2 living clickers but then a crap ton of dead infected that Joel and Ellie and Tess were walking over. Those dead infected weren't killed by people, the people died as the infection started to grow out of the head.) Stalker - Stage 2 (The one who slowly walked up and kissed Tess) - Over time, the infection starts to come out of the brain (usually on one side first). Stalkers can walk, hide, be sneaky, and are much more coordinated than Runners. They can still see because they have at least one of their eyes. Clicker - Stage 3 (the ones in the museum) - The infection has progressed into growing out of both sides of the head. The eyes are gone, so the Clicker uses hearing. and echolocation to track people. Really hard to kill, but knifing to the throat works really well in the game (and it's also how Ellie got those two Clickers off of Sam and Henry). Bloater - Stage 4 (episode 5) - The infection has continued and sprouted out of the entire body, creating a sort of armor. They're super violent and kill people, not just infect them." Hope this helps!
There is another reactor who now calls this show "The crying simulator" and I thought of Pudgey right away haha. Seriously, though, this episode has one of my all time favorite scene, all games combined. And Bella NAILED it. I'm not even talking about Pedro, because he's a GOD, but Bella is amazing
Funny trivia: The "Never Let Me Down Again" Depeche Mode cover during the end credits were sung by showrunner Craig Mazin's 18-year-old daughter Jessica Mazin 😊
@@kieranstevens5535 it's supposed to have a deeper meaning about a daughter mourning the death of her father. The parallels between Ellie and Joels father-daughter relationship and Craig Mazin and his daughters relationship. Plus the fact that Mazin looks at Bella Ramsay as his daughter.
I love the way they implement so much of the dialogue you hear during gameplay. Whistling, the dam, the monkeys. All ripped right from the game. Also, the way they're able to recontextualize the heavyemotional moments into this adaption is absolutely masterful. The golden standard for video game adaptions going forward
Yep. While the "You have no idea about loss" scene had some more dialogue in the game, the words they used in the show were pretty much verbatim also in the game.
Did you notice when Joel asks Maria to leave so he could have a moment with "family" he wasn't asking Ellie to leave? He full on sees her as family (kin) at this point, he just needed the fights with Tommy/Ellie to fully accept it.
Ellie trying to learn how to whistle was because Joel whistled at her when they were at the campsite to "come down from there/you're going to break your neck"
Loved this episode, dialog written so good, acting even better, such a heavy scenes when Joel talks about failing in his sleep and later famous conversation from the game with Ellie, lots of bonding time, you can feel all of it, I hope they win lots of awards for this show. Also Pudgey playing game would be great and funny content to watch live on twitch and playthrughs here for people who miss it live, ofc after show is done, because I realy love that she has no clue coming into episodes..
@@Dark__Thoughts Yea but I always thought it was weird that after eating him, she just kept his head around on a string as a memento. Ellie is "different" but she's not a psycho so that was kind of out of character.
That's recall of previous conversations. When ellie asked about how dam works. Joel can lie and she gonna believe it. So Joel lie about everyone loved contractor
Everyone is out for themselves and their own best interests, so when dealing with a contractor you got one person trying to save as much money as possible and you got the contractor trying to charge you as much money as possible and you have to wrestle it out with them to find something acceptable for both. That kind of relationship with people sucks because it means you CONSTANTLY have to fight with them. Its exhausting.
Pedro and Bella have been CRUSHING it the entire season, but man, Pedro took it to another level this episode. The scene where Joel breaks down to Tommy? Amazing. Joel and Ellie fight scene? You can see the immediate change in Joel when she mentions Sarah. This is his Emmy submission for sure!
At this point, knowing the game... I'm pretty sure that Pudgey will make an 8/9 CRY COUNTER at the end of the show xD But TLOU Game has a reputation for starting to make everyone cry in just 10 minutes of play, which is quite an achievement. never seen any other game capable of tearing you up so much so quickly ^^ And the show was able to transcribe that
Those toys were called Magic Slates. The etch-a-sketch is the one with the sand in it that you shook to erase. Then there was the Magna Doodle that you erased by pulling a button across the screen at the bottom. I don't understand why the Fireflies would leave a giant map showing exactly where they were headed.
Cool fact/detail here 36:26 is that the makers of the last of us and the show creators put this in to honor the people who play Joel and Ellie in the game. The guy that plays Joel loves music and can play guitar and few other instruments and all that so they made it so joel wanted to be a singer. The girl who plays Ellie loves space and could tell you everything about it. so they wanted to give them something each person holds special to each character.
What's interesting about this show also is that the characters' reactions to things make sense completely from their points of view. Like in this one, Joel feels betrayed a bit that Tommy didn't contact him but it was said in the first episode that they were estranged 'cause Joel believes that Marlene turned Tommy against him. In this one Tommy said "Thanks for still giving a shit about me," insinuating that from his point of view, it was in doubt that he did. Probably from the falling out they had. It's really interesting that you hear someone's point of view in a narrative being told and you could take it as gospel, but then you hear another one's and you can tell that theirs is from a completely different angle, which then makes sense also. But, in Joel and Tommy's case, neither of them hate the other. From Maria's POV, she hears only one side and has certain ideas about Joel that are only from a snapshot in Joel's and Tommy's life. Just very real way of portraying characters. None of them are inherently bad or even necessarily wrong to believe what they believe, given their experiences.
@Spartan & Pudgey, 4:49 I can see why you called Perry "Tony," as he's the mocap/voice actor for the in-game "Tommy." Similar sounding name. Perry was the name of Kathleen's lieutenant. You're correct with the Infected stages: Runner, Stalker, Clicker, Bloater... Runners look like regular people though a bit feral. You can usually see what looks like irritated skin that looks like webbing or a blistering rash. Stalkers have fungal growth on various parts of exposed skin, as we almost always see their faces, you'll see that growth here--the Infected Ellie killed in the basement in the third episode was a Stalker. Clickers are the ones who've lost the ability to see since their hosts skull was split just below the bridge of the nose to make way for the fruiting Cordyceps under the skull. Bloaters are, well, bloated clickers covered from head to toe with fungal growth. Assuming Ellie's blood truly is the key to turning the tide, they'll never make a cure for this. They can't. The infected are alive! What do you suppose would happen to a person who was forced to watch themselves ruin countless families over and over again for days or months? They'd be psychotic, and this is actually the least of our concerns, as we can't regrow eyes, let along half a skull--the fungal growth would have to be permanent reminder of what a person was--Ellie's still has her webbed scarring too, so if she can't heal, why would others? The best Firefly doctors should be able to do is make noninfected like Ellie, Immune from becoming Infected. Anyone turned is likely already screwed. The Cordyceps wall off the brain, imprisoning the host in his/her own mind. How do you undo that? I doubt scientist have the science to rewire the brain, connecting it back to the body. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I just don't see that happening. Infected all have to be killed--those living would be doing them all a favor, ending their nightmare of a life. Infected never sleep and they don't eat. They forced to watch, smell, hear the horrors they're doing and they have a hunger that'll never be sated, as the Cordyceps don't feed on prey or anything. Cordyceps drawn sustenance from their hosts body and once its drained of its resources the Cordyceps will start to branch out looking for a new vessel, and not before then. 7:59 Why would Ellie be sorry for falling asleep? That's the least of Sam/Henry's problems. Ellie told Sam her blood was a cure--she gave him hope! She's obviously sorry because she assured him that things would be okay, and they weren't. This story will show her regret and pain of that loss. I'm just surprised that there are people who think her apology was for falling asleep. 9:13 They're called magic slates, and apparently they were popular from the 1950s to 1980s--I had one as a kid, but never really played with it. 19:00 Her bites will forever show that she's been bitten by a person. That's why she can never show her bite mark to anyone. The Cordyceps in her have to be dead, which explains why she hasn't turned and why they haven't grown past the point of the webbing on her forearm; Ellie's immune system did to the Cordyceps what the Cordyceps were going to do to her. Her immune system built a barrier around the Cordyceps, protecting her from the fungal invaders. I assume that this is why the dog was initially confused with Ellie, she probably has a hint of Cordyceps in her system, but even that is likely fleeting. When she left the QZ it had been 3 weeks since her bite, and we saw from the FEDRA soldier's device that she still registered as infected. I wonder if that'd still be the case now? My guess is no, as I believe the Cordyceps insider her are dead, but maybe we'll get confirmation on that by the time this season ends. 21:15 Yeah, that's the same actor. He grew his hair out and a mustache to play an older version of himself here. 24:27 she was 14 when she died 20 years ago, so she very well could have been ='( 31:03 Literally EVERYONE alive now knows what loss is--Ellie grew up in an orphanage! I get that Joel is hurting, but I'm gobsmacked that he thinks his loss his worse than anyone else's. 40:35 This episode got Pudgey three different times, granted one time was happy tears. 43:30 What if that was it, what if that was the condition of Tommy living there, giving up his former life? Tommy didn't have the Fireflies watching his back, and we heard from him that the road to the university his a problem area. Tommy had the option of living the easy life or trying to survive on his own--we know what he chose, and I bet any of us in his situation would have done the same too. From Tommy's point of view, he always knew Joel would be okay without him, so I can see why he didn't worry about him. Joel had closed himself off from feeling, so I can see why Tommy also didn't try to contact him. That hug they gave each other was probably the first in decades! This was a great story and I love the cliffhanger. It's similar to what happened in the game at this point of the story. I suspect next week's episode will be like the third episode, a story about the past with a dash of the present at the end--this sidequest is going to drive everyone crazing wanting to know what happens, lol. Now those who haven't played the game get to see how those of us who have felt, lol. We had to do some other things before finding out. This is different, but similar.
Pretty much agree with everything you've said here except for one thing, Ellie is sorry for falling asleep because she promised Sam that she would stay awake with him to comfort him/ keep an eye on him if he was turning, she ended up breaking that promise and sam turned during the night, scared and alone..... I think Ellie will carry that with her for awhile, it was such good subtle writing added in for the show.
47:45 I do love those little moments in the game that remind you that Ellie is still just a kid after all she's been through. the puns, the comics, the hotel bit, even her wanting to be an astronaut 🥺
Hope you guys watch The Mandalorian. I’m not a huge Star Wars fan but really enjoyed that series. Season 3 starts next week, so we’ll have Papa Pascal 2x for 3 weeks!!
About the “Etch-a-Sketch”, it’s actually just a semi-translucent sheet over a black rubber pad. Normally the sheet looks white, but if you press it into the pad with the stylus it forms a temporary bond and you can see through it so it looks black. Pulling the sheet away breaks the bond, therefore “erasing” it. Very clever, simple, reusable tool.
@@clairealderwood1928 That’s what I was trying to say. If it is specifically called a “Magic Slate”, then I didn’t know that, so thank you. Point being I was trying to describe what they thought was an Etch-a-Sketch. I edited my comment to reflect that better.
@@TukaihaHithlec An Etch-A-Sketch is a plastic thin box with a screen with ‘silver’ talc inside. A stylus is manually controlled by 2 knobs (up/down, side to side) that can move and make scrape an image on the screen by removing the talc. You shake the box to erase the image and start all over again. The newer ones have an exterior pen. The older ones take a lot of skill to make anything meaningful.
Pulling out the "knife" was actually the smart choice in that scenario, since he was going to ride a horse. The whole "don't pull out the knife" thing it's only appliable when the stabbed person doesn't have to move, 'cause if they do, the blade could rip up their organs even more.
Just stumbled upon the channel after your ATLA and GoT reactions, you two making the clicker noises had me laughing. Really enjoy your humor and commentary!
It was the same kind of magnetic board, this was just in bad shape with a broken frame, so he could not slide it to erase, but lifting the paper did the job, it is exactly function the slide function does, it lifts the paper
31:35 Spartan no doubt doesn't remember but that scene was word for word from the game. They adapted that perfectly and i'm so glad they didn't change anything.
I remember getting to this part of the game and thinking “How in the world does Joel survive this?” then realizing he’s actually dying and thinking “Joel can’t die! He’s the main character! We play as Joel! If Joel dies then…” and realizing that the story is about Ellie, that we can play as Ellie, and that Joel doesn’t need to survive for Ellie to reach the Fireflies. Loved the surprise, wish I could experience it again!
Yooo I'd love to see you guys react to comparisons between the game & show. Hell I'd be down to see you Spartan play through the game again like on twitch or something, & with pudgey watching you
Spartan is the analytics guy on this channel. Almost cold and emotionless. But Pudgey is the heart & soul. Her reactions are the must-watch of this channel.
Bruh. Pudgey is the heart and soul AND the analytics. Spartan just doesn’t trust anyone but he also lets 628268 details fly over his head every episode while Pudgey corrects him lol.
Must have been a pretty good episode we got some sad tears and some happy tears from Pudgey and the Spartan "I don't remember counter" wasn't too bad. Very curious to see where they go from here.
It's called the River of Death, because Ellie named it that. She's the first person we hear call it that. They said "never go past this river" and "If your brother is west of the river, he's gone" 19:49-19:53 Pudgey "Just stop here" So, forget trying to end the Infected, forget keeping a promise to Tess? 33:50-33:55 "All this, just to say goodbye again" This time Joel knows where Tommy is, and that Tommy is someplace safe. The last few months he didn't know Tommy's condition, and now he has someplace to come back to, if he chooses to when this task is over. 37:18-37:25 Ellie: "They just left?" Spartan: "What timing" Ellie wasn't asking "they just left" as in we barely missed them, but that "they simply packed up and left" Just has many uses in American English, not sure how many of them are as common elsewhere. Just can be relative to time "just now" or "Just yesterday" it can be right "it is just" or statement of fact "It's just this answer", or a matter of simplicity "They just stopped trying?" or "he just didn't call"
I love how the only thing Pudgey doesn't want to know are the names of things AND the ONLY thing that Spartan remembers about the game ... are the names of things. LOL ugh #NotRelaionshipGoals
Spartan want to protect Pudgey and dont spoil her experiencem he is a little subborn and bully but he is a protector, They fix each other weakness and complement each other. You dont need to be the same as your partner, just want to buid and grow with him/her. Also they both have a good humor and can take some hits without being offended like in a good friendship
Marlene knew Ellie's mom. My Theory is that Ellie's mom got infected when she was almost having Ellie , and they got to take Ellie out of her mom, the infection got into Ellie's imune system and that's why she can't turn, its a part of her body system. And that's why Marlene didnt kill her when She found them at the mall, probably with Riley dead because Ellie had to shoot her when She turned. My Theory, since we don't have anything about her mother, but Marlene told Ellie that she knew her mom, and that Marlene was the one that delivered Ellie to Fedra to be safe. And Riley stated in this last episode that Ellie never got a family (because her mom got infected when She was preagnent, and Marlene knows Thats why she's imune) again, only a theory i came up about
Spartan bro you keep saying you remember nothing but I played it through twice and you still remember more than me mate so let yourself off the hook a little bit man lol im blaming my old age bro you can’t use that one just yet though haha love your reactions dudes always fun and entertaining viewing 😎👍🏻
7:49 Ellie has a lot to be sorry for. Although it's obvious to an adult, she couldn't have known that she couldn't save him, even though part of me feels she should have known better. That said, one huge mistake she made was robbing Henry of his last moments with his brother. She should have told Joel & Henry what happened, so that Henry could spend his last moments with his brother. Maybe then there was a small chance he wouldn't kill himself.
You guys need to watch The Lord Of The Ring Trilogy. I have been obsessed with the movies since I was a kid and I finally decided to read the books last year and my love for it has grown so much I can’t even explain lol I think you guys will love it.
You are not alone. I beat this game back when it came out and although I enjoyed it I did not remember a great deal beyond certain key events. For example I remember sarah's death vividly but did not remember Bill from the game or Sam and Henry (although it came flooding back during their final scene) - I do remember an event that is probably coming in episode 8 and how it ended but the early to middle part of the game after the prologue didn't stay with me for whatever reason. I remember how praised the game was for being the game that showed how good "cinematic storytelling could be done in video games" but I resented this opinion a little as I am a big fan of the PS1 era Final Fantasy games and the Metal Geat Solid series which have far more complex stories that had much more lasting impact on me and done so well. Maybe this had something to do with how much I remembered? Who knows.
First one here. Do i get a pin? Also love your reactions. Sad that we didn't get to see this reaction earlier since it was copyrighted. Glad to see it now!!
I can relate to Joel feeling "weak" and having thoughts of failing someone he cared for since I just turned 53 and my new wife is 33. Although I used to be athletic (e.g. martial arts, hiking, rock climbing, snowboarding, gravel biking, competitive swimming and tennis, and exercised at the gym 4-5 times per week), these days I no longer partake in most of those activities, and my mind and body aren't as strong and resilient as they used to be. I've literally thrown out my lower back after getting out of bed, and recently nearly passed out while biking a mile up a steep hill in San Francisco.
Kinda fkd that Tommy didn't send out some kind of "Hey, bro! I'm living in a free, safe, and sweet town rn, you and Tess should move here!" msg. That would've been a bit nicer than completely ghosting him. I get that he has to be careful about info getting out about the town and all, but surely there would be a way to do it. They've covertly communicated for years, after all. And if it's his wife who's forbidding it then fk her! Why would he want to be married to someone like that anyway?
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Damn That Episode Was Intense
Might AsWell Just Add 6 Out Of 7 To The Cry Counter Now, Why Wait Till Next Week 😅
I love the pudgey cry counter. Can that be a thing for evrey series now
I thought it was paper too Spartan. I literally thought it was the same as what you thought 😂
You guys might be the first reactors I’ve seen that understood Joel being felt betrayed
Others too but still are not sure. I felt the betrayal since he entered and found the brother.
I just knew that pudgey would notice when Ellie laid her cheek against Joel's back! Such a wonderful subtle detail illustrating just how much she's come to love him!
The fact that they didn't tie the horse to the tree is such a great detail. You're not supposed to tie a horse down to anything in case that it gets spooked so it doesnt break it's own neck.
fuck! This is amazing. All the details and affection that this production has.
Oh cool. Works for a quick getaway too
Thanks for pointing that out I’ve seen a few people think that was a mistake but as you said it’s actually spot on 👍🏻😎
I thought that part was perfect, but then again I live in the Wild West.😂
No hitchin' post in this apocalyptic world...lol
The native couple is such a nod to “Northern Exposure” both were in the old series. Loved their characters, wish we saw them more.
To help elaborate:
Runner - Stage 1 (Granny, Sam, etc.) - The infection spreads to the brain and takes over. Runners are super aggressive, uncoordinated, and focused on spreading the infection. (Vast majority of people die before the next stage and only stay runners. Remember the museum scene in episode 2. There were 2 living clickers but then a crap ton of dead infected that Joel and Ellie and Tess were walking over. Those dead infected weren't killed by people, the people died as the infection started to grow out of the head.)
Stalker - Stage 2 (The one who slowly walked up and kissed Tess) - Over time, the infection starts to come out of the brain (usually on one side first). Stalkers can walk, hide, be sneaky, and are much more coordinated than Runners. They can still see because they have at least one of their eyes.
Clicker - Stage 3 (the ones in the museum) - The infection has progressed into growing out of both sides of the head. The eyes are gone, so the Clicker uses hearing. and echolocation to track people. Really hard to kill, but knifing to the throat works really well in the game (and it's also how Ellie got those two Clickers off of Sam and Henry).
Bloater - Stage 4 (episode 5) - The infection has continued and sprouted out of the entire body, creating a sort of armor. They're super violent and kill people, not just infect them."
Hope this helps!
Forgot about shamblers
@@jkim1241 that’s a spoiler for the next game
There is another reactor who now calls this show "The crying simulator" and I thought of Pudgey right away haha.
Seriously, though, this episode has one of my all time favorite scene, all games combined. And Bella NAILED it. I'm not even talking about Pedro, because he's a GOD, but Bella is amazing
Shes growing into the ellie we know very well. It's gonna make next week so much more painful.
Funny trivia: The "Never Let Me Down Again" Depeche Mode cover during the end credits were sung by showrunner Craig Mazin's 18-year-old daughter Jessica Mazin 😊
Nepotism at best
@@kieranstevens5535 funny you mention it because in the tlou podcast craig makes a joke about nepotism lmao
@@kieranstevens5535 it's supposed to have a deeper meaning about a daughter mourning the death of her father. The parallels between Ellie and Joels father-daughter relationship and Craig Mazin and his daughters relationship. Plus the fact that Mazin looks at Bella Ramsay as his daughter.
I love the way they implement so much of the dialogue you hear during gameplay. Whistling, the dam, the monkeys. All ripped right from the game. Also, the way they're able to recontextualize the heavyemotional moments into this adaption is absolutely masterful. The golden standard for video game adaptions going forward
not to mention the talk about Joel wanting to be a singer, the football rules and talking about the university in general.
Yep. While the "You have no idea about loss" scene had some more dialogue in the game, the words they used in the show were pretty much verbatim also in the game.
I love the couple in the beginning. They were so funny.
Did you notice when Joel asks Maria to leave so he could have a moment with "family" he wasn't asking Ellie to leave? He full on sees her as family (kin) at this point, he just needed the fights with Tommy/Ellie to fully accept it.
that:s a really good detail.
Ellie trying to learn how to whistle was because Joel whistled at her when they were at the campsite to "come down from there/you're going to break your neck"
yess I'm happy I'm not the only one who noticed it
Pudgey is killing that look, absolutely drop dead.
Spartan's clicker impression impressed Pudgey so much that she turned into a dog whistle for a second
One of the few reactors that bring up what Joel lost looking for Tommy in that bar scene. To give context to Joel’s frustration.
Loved this episode, dialog written so good, acting even better, such a heavy scenes when Joel talks about failing in his sleep and later famous conversation from the game with Ellie, lots of bonding time, you can feel all of it, I hope they win lots of awards for this show.
Also Pudgey playing game would be great and funny content to watch live on twitch and playthrughs here for people who miss it live, ofc after show is done, because I realy love that she has no clue coming into episodes..
Yes, the writing this episode was fantastic, especially in that opening scene. Reminded me of something out of a Coen Bros movie.
RIP Joel. Such a rough part of the game. Pedro better win an Emmy.
I wonder if they keep Ellie using him as food source in the show as well.
@@Dark__Thoughts What do you mean?
@@luiscaetano6184 you don't remember the scene where she eats some of his toes to survive?
@@luiscaetano6184 Joel never taught her how to hunt soooo… Luckily it's freezing temperatures now so he'll be preserved for a while.
@@Dark__Thoughts Yea but I always thought it was weird that after eating him, she just kept his head around on a string as a memento. Ellie is "different" but she's not a psycho so that was kind of out of character.
Loved my fellow native representation this episode❤️❤️❤️❤️
They were awesome and I've loved both those actors since Northern Exposure, an underrated gem of a show that seems mostly forgotten these days
I am now hoping those 2 get a spin-off. They are just so good and scene-stealers.
Joel: "Everybody loved contractors"
Everyone else: *Hates dealing with contractors*
That's recall of previous conversations. When ellie asked about how dam works. Joel can lie and she gonna believe it. So Joel lie about everyone loved contractor
Working for and with contractors and eventually being one, and then not doing it. Yeh contractors should be loved and hated at the same time.
Everyone is out for themselves and their own best interests, so when dealing with a contractor you got one person trying to save as much money as possible and you got the contractor trying to charge you as much money as possible and you have to wrestle it out with them to find something acceptable for both. That kind of relationship with people sucks because it means you CONSTANTLY have to fight with them. Its exhausting.
Lol! True.
To be specific it's general contractors who're the problem, subtrades are just trying to work.
The guy wasn’t 14. Ellie’s “only 14”- she killed a guy to save Joel and she’s “fourteen years-old”.
Girl, we all cried. Let it out! I love your guys contribution to this and how much commentary you provide!
Pedro and Bella have been CRUSHING it the entire season, but man, Pedro took it to another level this episode. The scene where Joel breaks down to Tommy? Amazing. Joel and Ellie fight scene? You can see the immediate change in Joel when she mentions Sarah. This is his Emmy submission for sure!
Pedro Bella freaking broke my heart man the acting!!
At this point, knowing the game... I'm pretty sure that Pudgey will make an 8/9 CRY COUNTER at the end of the show xD
But TLOU Game has a reputation for starting to make everyone cry in just 10 minutes of play, which is quite an achievement.
never seen any other game capable of tearing you up so much so quickly ^^ And the show was able to transcribe that
that brother's convo in the shed really shatters my heart 💔
Those toys were called Magic Slates. The etch-a-sketch is the one with the sand in it that you shook to erase. Then there was the Magna Doodle that you erased by pulling a button across the screen at the bottom. I don't understand why the Fireflies would leave a giant map showing exactly where they were headed.
3:09 dying cat 🐱😭🤣😅 “that was pretty good” 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭
A least if we lose Pedro Pascal here. We still get to enjoy him for a while in GoT.
The Mandalorian s3 starts next week too! 🤗
@@itss_nattyj another Pedro Pascal protecting a special child where it was just a job in the beginning and ending being a father figure
Spartan at 25:13 is hilarious 😂
That scene. Dang. So powerful
This isn't an Etch-a-Sketch. It's a Magic Slate Paper Saver. An Etch-a-Sketch is what Spartan remembers.
3:00 Them doing the clicker sounds 😂😂😂😂
I'm not even 5min in and I can tell this is gonna be a great reaction episode.
Runner, Stalker, Clicker, Bloater! 😭
Cool fact/detail here 36:26
is that the makers of the last of us and the show creators put this in to honor the people who play Joel and Ellie in the game.
The guy that plays Joel loves music and can play guitar and few other instruments and all that so they made it so joel wanted to be a singer.
The girl who plays Ellie loves space and could tell you everything about it.
so they wanted to give them something each person holds special to each character.
Bella Ramsay has pics of her carrying Pablo Pascal on her back so that's on the "she can't carry him" subject🤭. Bella is so badass honestly
What's interesting about this show also is that the characters' reactions to things make sense completely from their points of view. Like in this one, Joel feels betrayed a bit that Tommy didn't contact him but it was said in the first episode that they were estranged 'cause Joel believes that Marlene turned Tommy against him. In this one Tommy said "Thanks for still giving a shit about me," insinuating that from his point of view, it was in doubt that he did. Probably from the falling out they had. It's really interesting that you hear someone's point of view in a narrative being told and you could take it as gospel, but then you hear another one's and you can tell that theirs is from a completely different angle, which then makes sense also. But, in Joel and Tommy's case, neither of them hate the other. From Maria's POV, she hears only one side and has certain ideas about Joel that are only from a snapshot in Joel's and Tommy's life. Just very real way of portraying characters. None of them are inherently bad or even necessarily wrong to believe what they believe, given their experiences.
@Spartan & Pudgey,
4:49 I can see why you called Perry "Tony," as he's the mocap/voice actor for the in-game "Tommy." Similar sounding name. Perry was the name of Kathleen's lieutenant.
You're correct with the Infected stages: Runner, Stalker, Clicker, Bloater...
Runners look like regular people though a bit feral. You can usually see what looks like irritated skin that looks like webbing or a blistering rash.
Stalkers have fungal growth on various parts of exposed skin, as we almost always see their faces, you'll see that growth here--the Infected Ellie killed in the basement in the third episode was a Stalker.
Clickers are the ones who've lost the ability to see since their hosts skull was split just below the bridge of the nose to make way for the fruiting Cordyceps under the skull.
Bloaters are, well, bloated clickers covered from head to toe with fungal growth.
Assuming Ellie's blood truly is the key to turning the tide, they'll never make a cure for this. They can't. The infected are alive! What do you suppose would happen to a person who was forced to watch themselves ruin countless families over and over again for days or months? They'd be psychotic, and this is actually the least of our concerns, as we can't regrow eyes, let along half a skull--the fungal growth would have to be permanent reminder of what a person was--Ellie's still has her webbed scarring too, so if she can't heal, why would others?
The best Firefly doctors should be able to do is make noninfected like Ellie, Immune from becoming Infected. Anyone turned is likely already screwed. The Cordyceps wall off the brain, imprisoning the host in his/her own mind. How do you undo that? I doubt scientist have the science to rewire the brain, connecting it back to the body. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I just don't see that happening. Infected all have to be killed--those living would be doing them all a favor, ending their nightmare of a life.
Infected never sleep and they don't eat. They forced to watch, smell, hear the horrors they're doing and they have a hunger that'll never be sated, as the Cordyceps don't feed on prey or anything. Cordyceps drawn sustenance from their hosts body and once its drained of its resources the Cordyceps will start to branch out looking for a new vessel, and not before then.
7:59 Why would Ellie be sorry for falling asleep? That's the least of Sam/Henry's problems. Ellie told Sam her blood was a cure--she gave him hope! She's obviously sorry because she assured him that things would be okay, and they weren't. This story will show her regret and pain of that loss. I'm just surprised that there are people who think her apology was for falling asleep.
9:13 They're called magic slates, and apparently they were popular from the 1950s to 1980s--I had one as a kid, but never really played with it.
19:00 Her bites will forever show that she's been bitten by a person. That's why she can never show her bite mark to anyone. The Cordyceps in her have to be dead, which explains why she hasn't turned and why they haven't grown past the point of the webbing on her forearm; Ellie's immune system did to the Cordyceps what the Cordyceps were going to do to her. Her immune system built a barrier around the Cordyceps, protecting her from the fungal invaders. I assume that this is why the dog was initially confused with Ellie, she probably has a hint of Cordyceps in her system, but even that is likely fleeting. When she left the QZ it had been 3 weeks since her bite, and we saw from the FEDRA soldier's device that she still registered as infected. I wonder if that'd still be the case now? My guess is no, as I believe the Cordyceps insider her are dead, but maybe we'll get confirmation on that by the time this season ends.
21:15 Yeah, that's the same actor. He grew his hair out and a mustache to play an older version of himself here.
24:27 she was 14 when she died 20 years ago, so she very well could have been ='(
31:03 Literally EVERYONE alive now knows what loss is--Ellie grew up in an orphanage! I get that Joel is hurting, but I'm gobsmacked that he thinks his loss his worse than anyone else's.
40:35 This episode got Pudgey three different times, granted one time was happy tears.
43:30 What if that was it, what if that was the condition of Tommy living there, giving up his former life? Tommy didn't have the Fireflies watching his back, and we heard from him that the road to the university his a problem area. Tommy had the option of living the easy life or trying to survive on his own--we know what he chose, and I bet any of us in his situation would have done the same too. From Tommy's point of view, he always knew Joel would be okay without him, so I can see why he didn't worry about him. Joel had closed himself off from feeling, so I can see why Tommy also didn't try to contact him. That hug they gave each other was probably the first in decades!
This was a great story and I love the cliffhanger. It's similar to what happened in the game at this point of the story. I suspect next week's episode will be like the third episode, a story about the past with a dash of the present at the end--this sidequest is going to drive everyone crazing wanting to know what happens, lol. Now those who haven't played the game get to see how those of us who have felt, lol. We had to do some other things before finding out. This is different, but similar.
Pretty much agree with everything you've said here except for one thing, Ellie is sorry for falling asleep because she promised Sam that she would stay awake with him to comfort him/ keep an eye on him if he was turning, she ended up breaking that promise and sam turned during the night, scared and alone..... I think Ellie will carry that with her for awhile, it was such good subtle writing added in for the show.
47:45 I do love those little moments in the game that remind you that Ellie is still just a kid after all she's been through. the puns, the comics, the hotel bit, even her wanting to be an astronaut 🥺
Pudgey - The exit music: 80s means trouble
Hope you guys watch The Mandalorian. I’m not a huge Star Wars fan but really enjoyed that series. Season 3 starts next week, so we’ll have Papa Pascal 2x for 3 weeks!!
Watch Andor too if you haven't already. It's pretty much the best Star Wars I've seen so far and it's a lot more mature than any other show or movie.
@@Dark__Thoughts I’ve heard. Will definitely check it out!
About the “Etch-a-Sketch”, it’s actually just a semi-translucent sheet over a black rubber pad. Normally the sheet looks white, but if you press it into the pad with the stylus it forms a temporary bond and you can see through it so it looks black. Pulling the sheet away breaks the bond, therefore “erasing” it. Very clever, simple, reusable tool.
It’s not an Etch-A-sketch. It’s a Magic Slate.
@@clairealderwood1928 That’s what I was trying to say. If it is specifically called a “Magic Slate”, then I didn’t know that, so thank you. Point being I was trying to describe what they thought was an Etch-a-Sketch. I edited my comment to reflect that better.
@@TukaihaHithlec An Etch-A-Sketch is a plastic thin box with a screen with ‘silver’ talc inside. A stylus is manually controlled by 2 knobs (up/down, side to side) that can move and make scrape an image on the screen by removing the talc. You shake the box to erase the image and start all over again. The newer ones have an exterior pen. The older ones take a lot of skill to make anything meaningful.
@@clairealderwood1928 I know that, I have an original Etch-a-Sketch, I don’t know why you just described it to me
The episode was filmed in Canmore, Alberta, Canada. It's beautiful there.
Fun fact: the outro song is a cover of the trouble song that plays at the end of episode 1, and the person covering it is Craig Mazin's daughter
I was like screaming at the tv for him to not pull it out when he got stabbed. Probably would have stayed conscious way longer if he hadn't done that.
Pulling out the "knife" was actually the smart choice in that scenario, since he was going to ride a horse.
The whole "don't pull out the knife" thing it's only appliable when the stabbed person doesn't have to move, 'cause if they do, the blade could rip up their organs even more.
@@b.u.l.1734 perhaps.
@@b.u.l.1734 It’s interesting how many people have heard about leaving it in, but not heard how sometimes it’s best to pull it out
Not sure he would be able to ride like that with all the bouncing around. The sharp point could do more damage.
@@b.u.l.1734 would it be the same since this wasn’t a metal blade or any kind of an actual blade, just a broken wooden bat handle🤔
Just stumbled upon the channel after your ATLA and GoT reactions, you two making the clicker noises had me laughing. Really enjoy your humor and commentary!
I loved how old mate knew that Joel doesn’t die but played it off so well lol
It was the same kind of magnetic board, this was just in bad shape with a broken frame, so he could not slide it to erase, but lifting the paper did the job, it is exactly function the slide function does, it lifts the paper
My favorite Reaction couple. Keep up 💪💪 and i love pudgey accent 😂
31:35 Spartan no doubt doesn't remember but that scene was word for word from the game. They adapted that perfectly and i'm so glad they didn't change anything.
Despite this being such a sad wonderful story, you both make me laugh a lot. Keep up the great reactions.
I remember getting to this part of the game and thinking “How in the world does Joel survive this?” then realizing he’s actually dying and thinking “Joel can’t die! He’s the main character! We play as Joel! If Joel dies then…” and realizing that the story is about Ellie, that we can play as Ellie, and that Joel doesn’t need to survive for Ellie to reach the Fireflies. Loved the surprise, wish I could experience it again!
Spartan I’m so glad you’re a good sport!😂 Ya the “one pager” was probably before your time. I’m 47 & I had one, so not sure how long they lasted.
he doesnt remember because he was traumatized and his mind blocked it out of his mind to save him from grief
Yooo I'd love to see you guys react to comparisons between the game & show. Hell I'd be down to see you Spartan play through the game again like on twitch or something, & with pudgey watching you
Spartan is the analytics guy on this channel. Almost cold and emotionless. But Pudgey is the heart & soul. Her reactions are the must-watch of this channel.
Bruh. Pudgey is the heart and soul AND the analytics. Spartan just doesn’t trust anyone but he also lets 628268 details fly over his head every episode while Pudgey corrects him lol.
@@EzioMAltair I guess I'll have to agree with you on that one. 😉
Must have been a pretty good episode we got some sad tears and some happy tears from Pudgey and the Spartan "I don't remember counter" wasn't too bad. Very curious to see where they go from here.
The writing tool that Sam uses is commonly called a "magic slate". His is specifically a Woody Woodpecker magic slate 👍🏻👍🏻
This episode was amazing. Hope you two are digging the show so far.
Y'all make such a cute couple lol....and Pudgy has to be the best nickname ever
Thanks! 😄
The actor for Tommy in the game, was the one who got ripped apart from the bloater on episode 4.
SPARTAN
This is HBO and Last of Us, there will be tears
RIP Pudgey's tear ducts...
I strongly recommend seeing Pedro in the Mandalorian. less to cry about but an amazing series. You two will be fun to watch previewing this show
i Love your reactions, and i would really love to see you both play and react to the game.
It's called the River of Death, because Ellie named it that. She's the first person we hear call it that. They said "never go past this river" and "If your brother is west of the river, he's gone"
19:49-19:53 Pudgey "Just stop here"
So, forget trying to end the Infected, forget keeping a promise to Tess?
33:50-33:55 "All this, just to say goodbye again"
This time Joel knows where Tommy is, and that Tommy is someplace safe. The last few months he didn't know Tommy's condition, and now he has someplace to come back to, if he chooses to when this task is over.
37:18-37:25 Ellie: "They just left?"
Spartan: "What timing"
Ellie wasn't asking "they just left" as in we barely missed them, but that "they simply packed up and left"
Just has many uses in American English, not sure how many of them are as common elsewhere. Just can be relative to time "just now" or "Just yesterday" it can be right "it is just" or statement of fact "It's just this answer", or a matter of simplicity "They just stopped trying?" or "he just didn't call"
spartan said "what timing" in response to the monkeys making noise upstairs right that moment.
Dw, Pudgey, you're beating me. I've cried in 6/6 episodes so far :)
When Pudgey cries I cry…
Classic!! The clicker impersonations are top knotch!!
Side-by-side game/show reactions would be great
There's so many 1:1 scenes in the show
I love how the only thing Pudgey doesn't want to know are the names of things AND the ONLY thing that Spartan remembers about the game ... are the names of things. LOL ugh #NotRelaionshipGoals
Spartan want to protect Pudgey and dont spoil her experiencem he is a little subborn and bully but he is a protector, They fix each other weakness and complement each other. You dont need to be the same as your partner, just want to buid and grow with him/her. Also they both have a good humor and can take some hits without being offended like in a good friendship
Lol definitely too happy towards the end for nothing to go wrong.
I was so worried it was Joel's heart but he was just having a panic attack cause he is scared of losing Ellie like his daughter.
I think it would have been pretty insane if the fungi took control of the monkeys too, seeing as their dna are so close to humans.
"nex episode I'll try not to cry" well....next episode's title is 'Left Behind' 👀
Spartan remembering absolutely nothing about the game will never not be funny.
This episode started like the game, in the game after Henry scene game goes to black and then winter
it's actually Fall after the Sam and Henry part. Winter doesn't happen until Joel is injured
@@SohiHien 👏
Marlene knew Ellie's mom. My Theory is that Ellie's mom got infected when she was almost having Ellie , and they got to take Ellie out of her mom, the infection got into Ellie's imune system and that's why she can't turn, its a part of her body system. And that's why Marlene didnt kill her when She found them at the mall, probably with Riley dead because Ellie had to shoot her when She turned. My Theory, since we don't have anything about her mother, but Marlene told Ellie that she knew her mom, and that Marlene was the one that delivered Ellie to Fedra to be safe.
And Riley stated in this last episode that Ellie never got a family (because her mom got infected when She was preagnent, and Marlene knows Thats why she's imune) again, only a theory i came up about
They had to nail one particular scene for the show would be perfect for me and by God did they.
impossible not to cry in the next episode....left behind...
Pudgey needs to rehydrate after these... Get her a water bottle.
I think the guy's name was Perry but I could be wrong the one who got he's head ripped off
I came for the reactions, I stayed for the Aussie accent. No shade thrown, it's good practice to understand language to listen to different accents.
Get used to, it only gets better from here 🤣
Spartan bro you keep saying you remember nothing but I played it through twice and you still remember more than me mate so let yourself off the hook a little bit man lol im blaming my old age bro you can’t use that one just yet though haha love your reactions dudes always fun and entertaining viewing 😎👍🏻
IM DYING! JUST LIKE JOEL!
7:49 Ellie has a lot to be sorry for. Although it's obvious to an adult, she couldn't have known that she couldn't save him, even though part of me feels she should have known better. That said, one huge mistake she made was robbing Henry of his last moments with his brother. She should have told Joel & Henry what happened, so that Henry could spend his last moments with his brother. Maybe then there was a small chance he wouldn't kill himself.
You guys need to watch The Lord Of The Ring Trilogy. I have been obsessed with the movies since I was a kid and I finally decided to read the books last year and my love for it has grown so much I can’t even explain lol I think you guys will love it.
You are not alone. I beat this game back when it came out and although I enjoyed it I did not remember a great deal beyond certain key events. For example I remember sarah's death vividly but did not remember Bill from the game or Sam and Henry (although it came flooding back during their final scene) - I do remember an event that is probably coming in episode 8 and how it ended but the early to middle part of the game after the prologue didn't stay with me for whatever reason.
I remember how praised the game was for being the game that showed how good "cinematic storytelling could be done in video games" but I resented this opinion a little as I am a big fan of the PS1 era Final Fantasy games and the Metal Geat Solid series which have far more complex stories that had much more lasting impact on me and done so well. Maybe this had something to do with how much I remembered? Who knows.
It's adorable how often he compares his wife to Ellie 💕
First one here. Do i get a pin? Also love your reactions. Sad that we didn't get to see this reaction earlier since it was copyrighted. Glad to see it now!!
Sure.. Here's your pin🖕😆.. Nah I'm just joking with ya😄
Just curious, have you played the game part 2 yet?
He has not.
I can relate to Joel feeling "weak" and having thoughts of failing someone he cared for since I just turned 53 and my new wife is 33. Although I used to be athletic (e.g. martial arts, hiking, rock climbing, snowboarding, gravel biking, competitive swimming and tennis, and exercised at the gym 4-5 times per week), these days I no longer partake in most of those activities, and my mind and body aren't as strong and resilient as they used to be. I've literally thrown out my lower back after getting out of bed, and recently nearly passed out while biking a mile up a steep hill in San Francisco.
ScreenCrush or New Rockstars have some of the best episode easter egg/break down videos. Either of those would make great reaction content.
25:15 LMAO I sometimes forget how young you guys are.
This show...
Joel is completely out of paper now.
For real not a bad clicker sound
Kinda fkd that Tommy didn't send out some kind of "Hey, bro! I'm living in a free, safe, and sweet town rn, you and Tess should move here!" msg. That would've been a bit nicer than completely ghosting him. I get that he has to be careful about info getting out about the town and all, but surely there would be a way to do it. They've covertly communicated for years, after all. And if it's his wife who's forbidding it then fk her! Why would he want to be married to someone like that anyway?
Should do a playthrough of the game on the channel after the show