@Shnumenstein Because the damage of Flare Star is based on the target's level. The formula goes: 35 x target's level = damage. Since my characters are all level 1, the math is: 35 x1 = 35. Had my party been level 99, the damage would've been 3465.
As mentioned earlier, the damage flare star does depends on the target's level. In Kuja's case, his flare star does damage 35 x target level, so since I am level 1, it does 35 damage.
@Synthesized97 Yes, correct, you get it from the Yans. But the thing is, virus doesnt disappear even if the character dies. So i took turns on getting them inflicted with virus, then run from battle, then repeat until all 4 had virus. :)
Selfish1337: Thanks for the nice comment :) As for Eiko, Freya and Quina's levels, no they aren't higher than level 1, I think their levels are calculated depending on what the other characters have. And yes, I had to use flee ALOT. Was one hell of a work, and you're right when you believe it took weeks. It took months actually. I started in july 2004, and by october or so, I had managed to beat Ozma.
@DragosTheGod Flare star deals damage based on the level of the target it hits. It deals damage = 35 x target's level. So since all my characters are level 1, it will always do only 35 damage.
It's fun you're the first one to ask about that. :P Thanks for bringing up a new question. I do it as part of a strategy. Some times, it is because I want to wait and see what Kuja's next move is, in case he does something that will require me to have someone ready to heal etc. as fast as possible. Especially Eiko, since she does not have any attack that works good, I usually put her on hold until I need her.
The sealion-battle was actually one of the hardest, and needed some attempts before I succeeded. The attacks he use that deals more damage than Zidane can take, comes when his hp is below a certain critical point. So when he is almost finished, I had to take him down FAST. That was done by getting zidane in trance mode and using Dyne-attack, in addition to him having auti-potion ability equipped.
Flarestar deals damage based on the level of its target. The formula for Kuja's flare star is target's level multiplied with 35. So since my entire party is level 1, the damage will be 35 x 1 = 35.
@Ghostgirl777 Basically by running from every random battle. Boss battles don't give exp in this game. Then there are a few battles here and there which can't be avoided easily, but that's a longer story. The trick is alot based on having the right fit equipment and abilities for every individual fight.. :)
As explained before, getting and training abilites is easy when you take down enemies with petrify and know how you use virus status to your advantage. Bosses aren't always as hard as you may think they are. It's all about using the best fitting equipment for each fight really. Knowing what the boss' weakness is, what kind of attacks it uses and prepare yourself for that with the right equips.
You're right about your first statement. Flare star's damage is target's level multiplied with 35. So that makes it 35 damage for me. And it is a real lvl 1 fight. Zidane's Thievery ability is learned through his weapon Angel Bless, synthesized in Alexandria. Quina learns her Limit Glove by eating mandragoras, and Freya's Dragon's Crest is learned through the weapon Holy Lance, which I stole from Ark.
Early in the game, when you get Quina, you can equip her with the Needle Fork, and Add Status ability. This MIGHT petrify the enemy when she attacks it. The success rate is decided by Quina's amount of spirit, so get her spirit up as much as possible. The Needle Fork can be stolen from Zaghnol during the Festival of the Hunt in Lindblum.
The three I have posted here now was definitely the of the hardest ones, I think probably Necron was the toughest. Except from these, the battles in Ilfa Tree and Memoria were tough. I didn't try to take out Hades though. I'm gonna do that later when I have the time. :)
@KisanaKun I didn't understand much of what you said, since I don't speak french, but I understand the word Fake. And I can tell you right now this is not fake. And I will gladly answer any questions you have regarding that, but you need to do it in a language I understand :P
First of all, yes, there are three battles in Pandemonium where you can not avoid gaining exp. In these 3 battles I had 3 different characters take the hit (Steiner, Garnet and Amarant). After this point, I never used them again. Some would, as you, because of this not count it as a true level 1 game, but in that case a true level 1 game is not possible in Final Fantasy IX, as there is no way to get past these battles, unless you use gameshark. this is as close to a clean level 1 game as it gets
Yes, when you aim for the excalibur 2, you have to open/close the lid on the playstation to skip the FMV-scenes. They take up way too much time in total.
Flare star is based on the level of the target it hits. The formula is 35 x target's level. So since I am level 1, it deals only 35 x1 = 35 damage. If you're level 99, it will deal 35 x99 = 3465 damage.
@Uncharted2fan8D That is possible by fighting random battles and using petrify/stop on all the enemies. This ends the battle, and gives you no exp, BUT you get AP.
If you mean bosses, they don't give exp. As for some of the non-optional battles that GIVE exp, I had help from Vivi's stop magic and Quina's ability to petrify. Petrifying or stopping enemeies result in no exp gain.
Now I'm a little bit spoiled here, I'm still in Ipsen's Castle, disk 3. But anyway, this is just fantastic, and I just cannot understand how you're doing. Very good job!
Thank you :) No, not all of them. As far as I can remember, only Flare Star deals damage based on level. But because of my equipment and abilites, I am able to withstand the other attacks pretty well too.
Long story short: I run from all the random battles in the game. Boss battles do not give exp in FF IX. And then there are some non-optional battles that do give exp, where I have to avoid gaining exp by petrifying or stopping the enemies.
Flare Star does 35 damage. As I've said many times before, it deals damage = 35 multiplied with the target's level. So since All my characters are level 1, the damage will be 35 x 1 = 35.
Of course they do. Flare star deals damage based on the level of the target it hits. The formula is 35 x level, so since I am all level 1, I have nothing to fear from it. If your characters are level 90, flare star deals exactly 3150 damage on each of them.
I run from every random battle. Boss battles don't give exp. There are some non-boss battles that have to be fought, and in those ones I use a little of Vivi's stop magic, some petrifying from Quina, etc. etc.
Well, I guess that depends alot on what you want to achieve, and what you prefer. The party I use here (Zidane, Freya, Eiko and Quina) is the best one fit for the level 1 game. But personally, when playing a normal game, my favorite team is Zidane, Garnet, Vivi and Steiner. This team provides both black magic, white magic (and summons), and physical strength.
Flare star deals damage based on the level of target. (damage = 35 x level). And besides, equipment helps more to defence and magical defence than level does.
Bosses don't give any exp. And for the few non-optional fights that give exp, I had Quina equip Add Status ability and Needle Fork, there is a chance that s/he will petrify the enemy. After Gizamaluke's Grotto, I dug up the chocobo treasure box at "SMALL BEACH", which contains Oak Staff, giving Vivi the ability Stop.
Yeah, that's pretty simple actually. Because the character's levels when you get them all depends on what level the characters you already have are. So when you meet a new character with your chars at level 1, that new one won't have higher level either. One thing I know is that Amarant's level is calculated from what level Blank is. And since you have him in your team a few times in the beginning of the game, you have to asure he doesn't gain levels as well.
What attacks are you referring to? Flare star? It's damage is based on target's level. Also rememer, for some of the other attacks, I am well equipped with auto reflect and other usefull abilities and equipment that helps me survive strong attacks. I got my party here on level 1 by running from all the random battles in the game. Boss battles do not give experience.
@drakiyth The Final Bosses are made easy so that players don't have to grind for ages to finish the storyline. If you want something that requires a massive effort to defeat, try the optional bosses.
@Roisin25300 There are alot of chests around which gives alot of stuff that you can sell. Just selling all equipment and accessories and stuff that you dont need anyway, helps alot on the money making.
Remember, I don't show up there naked. I have the best equipment you know. And that counts for a lot. Kuja uses Flare Star alot, and that is a formula-based attack, dealing 35 x target's level. So in my case, level 1, it deals 35 damage. Against a level 99 party on the other hand, it will deal 35 x99 = 3465 damage. And as you see, I am also very much helped with Auto-Reflect and Auto-Life.
That's right. There is a point in the game there where gaining exp is unavoidable. So I had to have some of my characters gain exp, and then of course never use them again (to not spoil the level 1-game)
Zidane has Ultimate Weapon, Adaman Hat and Rossetta Ring. Freya has Dragon's Hair, Platina Armor and Rossetta Ring. Eiko has Adaman Hat and Madian Ring. Quina has Adaman Hat and Rossetta Ring. For all of the characters, the rest of the equipment should be focusing at getting them to as high Magic Evasion as possible.
I only have one question. How were you able to powerup Freya's Dragon Crest without levelling up? I know you have to kill 100 dragons to get it to do 9999 damage, so how did you manage to NOT level while doing that?
actually it did 35, and that is because its damage is calculated by the target's level. The formula it uses is 35 x target's level. So you can imagine if I was level 99, the damage inflicted would have been 35x99=3465. But since I am level 1, the damage is 35x1=35.
what I mean? I mean (as shown in this video) that I kept my party on level 1 the whole game through. That is possible by escaping all random battles. Boss battles do not give experience. Using good armour and abilities help alot more than people think, and level itself is overrated.
Yes that's true, so in those three battles, three of your characters must level up. That means you can't use them anymore after that (for it to be a correct lvl 1 game). Fortunately this is so near the end of the game, that it doesn't matter too much.
Correct. But remember, it took a while before I got these attacks maxed out, so I couldn't use them earlier in the game. So it's not like I surfed through dealing 9999 damage on all bosses.
Exp can't be avoided in those three battles, so you have to do a level 1-sacrifice. What I did was give the exp to Amarant, Dagger and Steiner. After these battles, I could not use those three again (cause that would spoil the level 1 game).
oh ok nenvarion i see your point very well done for completing the challenge and congratulations.i might attempt it myself but the 4 chaos guardions they must have been very hard to defeat do u have any videos showning u defeating them please well done again
Yes, but their level depends on what level your other characters are. As long as the others are kept at level 1, new ones will be as well. Oh, and yes, Amarant's level is depending on Blank's level, so don't have him gain any exp either at the start of the game. I get 9999 dragon crest by fighting dragons with characters in virus status. That way, they don't gain exp.
I you have damaged Kuja with 8500 dmg, and use dragon breath with will deal 8500 dmg, if you have reduce kuja's max hap for 34654, you will deal 9999 dmg, basically it's the same as minus strike. If I remember correctly
When I fought the dragons, I had all my characters in Virus status. That way, they won't gain any experience. And as an answer to what you said about just entering the battle with low hp/mp, I would like you all to keep attention to when Zidane uses Auto-Potion. He has 35 HP left, and uses potion which heals him by 150 HP. If I "just entered the battle with low hp", can you explain how he still after that potion has 105 HP only?
Flare star is based on the target's level. It's 35 multiplied with level. So there you have an other proof I am level 1. Since that formula gives: 35 x 1 = 35.
Didn't need to downgrade, because they were already level 1 when I got them. This is because their starting level is based on the levels of the other characters I have. And since I kept them all at level 1, the new ones will be there as well.
Because Flare Star always deals damage = 35 multiplied with the target's level. So since All my characters are level 1, the damage will be 35 x 1 = 35.
Virus status did I get by fighting the Yans on that little island (you probably know what I mean). They are damn hard to beat, even on high level. But I only had to surivive long enough to get them use virus on me, and then I could flee. Fortunately for me, virus is a status that does not go away even if the character is KO'ed
You can get running shoes by bringing Quina and Vivi to Quan's Cave. You can also get another pair of running shoes by fighting Amdusias in the Treno weapon shop. :)
I ran from all random battles, boss battles do not give exp. Limit Glove is learned by having Quina eat mandragoras found in a forest close to Chocobo Forest.
I agree, that is my favorite team as well. BUT: Does Vivi have an attack that deals 9999 damage, even when he's level 1? Does Dagger? Or Steiner? This is a level 1 game.
@astigmareal i know i should have done that, but this video wasn't originally made for youtube, I just recorded it for my own, so I could look back and remember when I did it on lvl 1. And when i was gonna upload it here, i didn't care to re-do it, because I didn't really upload it to prove anything, I just thought maybe other people wanted to see it.
TY for the explaionation. ive currently downloaded ff9 with an emulator and im reliving the wonderfull memories from the game. did you kill off zidane at the begining so you wouldnt get xp cos i dont know any early monsters that give virus?
Yep, you got it. Most people seem to believe stats all come from the level. I thought so too earlier. But equips are what really makes a strong team. ;)
yea, zidane becomes really sweet if you get his speed up to 50 with auto haste, and i was wonderin, you said you tried to get excaliber 2, when you tried were you skipping the cg scenes?
Yes, it is based on how many times Zidane has stolen items from enemies. Each time Zidane successfully steals something from an enemy, the damage of Thievery goes up by 12. So you need 834 steals to have it do 9999 damage. I didn't bother getting it all the way up there though =P
No reward, no. I did this just because I thought it sounded like a fun challenge to try, and it was. I think you get a whole new perspective of the game when you see it through on level 1. You suddenly discover all the tactical possibilities there are, and how much equipment and skills really count, way more than level.
Nevnarion do u know when you ate enemies with quina to get some of her blue magic where u in virus when u defeated them. Because u still get experience after eating enemies so were u in virus and what monsters did u get the abilities from?
nad the summons depend on the number of your magic stones .i.e the more ores the more dmg will odin do . the more garnets the more damage will bahamut do the more lapis lazulis tha more ark will do the more opals the more shiva will do and so on check gamefaqs for a great list
potions can always be found in chests or stolen from enemies. Or bought, later in the game you get enough money even though you don't fight any random battles. Selling phoenix pinions and ethers, selling equipment I don't need anymore...there is much money to get from that.
No, the bosses and monsters do not level with you in FF9 like they do in FF8. The reason I am not blown away in one shot is because I have very good equipment, and a good amount of the character's stats come from their equipment and not their level. And yes, bosses give AP only. No exp.
Evenoyeah: To record what I play, I connect the PS2's scart contact to the videomachine, find the video channel on the tv, and record while I play. So far, so easy. The main problem I got was how the hell do I get this to my PC so I can share it with the world? Well, I bought a tv-card for my PC, and with that, I could connect the videomachine to the comp. Then I used the software that came with the tv-card, it's called Pinnacle TV Senter, to save the video to an avi-file. :)
how did you stay level 1? and where do you find a limit glove? ive beaten it twice and never har that item before, that i can remember at least. awesome job. i never beat ozma though =[
@Nevnarion Actually Kuja's does x40, not x35. PS.Wait, what? Villain casts Holy? That's WHITE magic spell! (yeah, offensive spell, but still white magic).
Good point. And that was a very hard part. I had to reset my game over and over again, till I got a battle where I fight only TWO spiders. Then I had the whole party alive, so they shared the exp. Everyone got 11 exp, and that did not level them up. Then I had to run for my live to prevent more spider-encounters.
Something I don't understand... How did you get Freya's Dragon's Crest do 9999 damage? If you kill a dragon you receive EXP, so if you kill 100 dragons your level will be much higher then level one.
@queermobile Eating an enemy isnt a problem when you run into a group of 2 or more, since you can just eat one, and flee from battle to avoid any exp gain.
I did not have virus status at that moment. I met more than one enemy in a battle, ate one, and escaped from the rest. That gives no experience. I got Quina's limit glove-ability from eating a mandragora.
I'll wish you good luck then. :) It's a hard but very fun challenge to go true. I've considered doing it on ff7 or 8 myself, but I also want to try out for the one-man-party challenge as well, so we'll see.
This isn't fake. Thievery, for example, can do 9999 damage even if u are in lv1, because it deals damage based on the times u've stolen. And Dark matter, for example, deals 9999 damage. And u have Karma from Amarant that can keep u alive in some battles.
Being level 1 IS harder, no doubt about that. But it's not so much harder than you would first believe, because many attacks are based on level, and having the best fit equipment counts more than most ppl believe. Some of Ozma's attacks for instance, are based on the level of the target. Same goes for Kuja.
i get stuck at the part where ur at the snowy sland (disc 3) that i think is at the top left of map, i cant get any further in the place cos of a big door/gate how do i get through?
@queermobile never said i didnt kill anything. Its true, i killed dragons to get dragons crest to do 9999. But i did that with my entire party having virus status on them. Virus pretends them from gaining any exp.
It's alright if you're suspicious, I can understand that :) I got my virus status in disc 3 by travveling to the little island where you encounter Yans. They gave me the status. Earlier on, I used other methods to avoid gaining exp, like running from battles, and using petrify and stop also.
@deadlykidCs I fought against the Yan enemies and got my whole party infected with the virus status. this prevents them from gaining exp, and with my whole party with this, i could fight as many battles I wanted. :)
how did you manage not to get any exp.? i mean there some part of the game that zidane alone must fight.. like the monster hunt in linblum... maybe u can say that u can use petrification.. but this stat is only a chance not 100%..correct me if im wrong...
That's wrong. It counts for FF8 though, but not in FF9. The enemy is at one decided level, and has a locked amount of HP. Whether the player is level 1 or level 99 when he/she meets for instance Ozma, doesn't affect the fact that Ozma is level 99 and has 55 535 HP. Trance Kuja (as seen is this vid)is level 76 and has 55 535 HP. For Necron, he is level 69 and has 54 100 HP.
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@Shnumenstein Because the damage of Flare Star is based on the target's level. The formula goes: 35 x target's level = damage. Since my characters are all level 1, the math is: 35 x1 = 35.
Had my party been level 99, the damage would've been 3465.
As mentioned earlier, the damage flare star does depends on the target's level. In Kuja's case, his flare star does damage 35 x target level, so since I am level 1, it does 35 damage.
@Synthesized97 Yes, correct, you get it from the Yans. But the thing is, virus doesnt disappear even if the character dies. So i took turns on getting them inflicted with virus, then run from battle, then repeat until all 4 had virus. :)
Selfish1337: Thanks for the nice comment :)
As for Eiko, Freya and Quina's levels, no they aren't higher than level 1, I think their levels are calculated depending on what the other characters have.
And yes, I had to use flee ALOT. Was one hell of a work, and you're right when you believe it took weeks. It took months actually. I started in july 2004, and by october or so, I had managed to beat Ozma.
@DragosTheGod Flare star deals damage based on the level of the target it hits. It deals damage = 35 x target's level. So since all my characters are level 1, it will always do only 35 damage.
It's fun you're the first one to ask about that. :P Thanks for bringing up a new question.
I do it as part of a strategy. Some times, it is because I want to wait and see what Kuja's next move is, in case he does something that will require me to have someone ready to heal etc. as fast as possible. Especially Eiko, since she does not have any attack that works good, I usually put her on hold until I need her.
The sealion-battle was actually one of the hardest, and needed some attempts before I succeeded. The attacks he use that deals more damage than Zidane can take, comes when his hp is below a certain critical point. So when he is almost finished, I had to take him down FAST. That was done by getting zidane in trance mode and using Dyne-attack, in addition to him having auti-potion ability equipped.
@STRLOL european version. It's Ozma's flare star that does 50x target lvl. Kuja is 35.
Flarestar deals damage based on the level of its target. The formula for Kuja's flare star is target's level multiplied with 35. So since my entire party is level 1, the damage will be 35 x 1 = 35.
@Ghostgirl777 Basically by running from every random battle. Boss battles don't give exp in this game. Then there are a few battles here and there which can't be avoided easily, but that's a longer story. The trick is alot based on having the right fit equipment and abilities for every individual fight.. :)
As explained before, getting and training abilites is easy when you take down enemies with petrify and know how you use virus status to your advantage.
Bosses aren't always as hard as you may think they are. It's all about using the best fitting equipment for each fight really. Knowing what the boss' weakness is, what kind of attacks it uses and prepare yourself for that with the right equips.
You're right about your first statement. Flare star's damage is target's level multiplied with 35. So that makes it 35 damage for me.
And it is a real lvl 1 fight. Zidane's Thievery ability is learned through his weapon Angel Bless, synthesized in Alexandria. Quina learns her Limit Glove by eating mandragoras, and Freya's Dragon's Crest is learned through the weapon Holy Lance, which I stole from Ark.
Early in the game, when you get Quina, you can equip her with the Needle Fork, and Add Status ability. This MIGHT petrify the enemy when she attacks it. The success rate is decided by Quina's amount of spirit, so get her spirit up as much as possible.
The Needle Fork can be stolen from Zaghnol during the Festival of the Hunt in Lindblum.
The three I have posted here now was definitely the of the hardest ones, I think probably Necron was the toughest. Except from these, the battles in Ilfa Tree and Memoria were tough.
I didn't try to take out Hades though. I'm gonna do that later when I have the time. :)
@KisanaKun I didn't understand much of what you said, since I don't speak french, but I understand the word Fake. And I can tell you right now this is not fake. And I will gladly answer any questions you have regarding that, but you need to do it in a language I understand :P
First of all, yes, there are three battles in Pandemonium where you can not avoid gaining exp. In these 3 battles I had 3 different characters take the hit (Steiner, Garnet and Amarant). After this point, I never used them again. Some would, as you, because of this not count it as a true level 1 game, but in that case a true level 1 game is not possible in Final Fantasy IX, as there is no way to get past these battles, unless you use gameshark. this is as close to a clean level 1 game as it gets
Yes, when you aim for the excalibur 2, you have to open/close the lid on the playstation to skip the FMV-scenes. They take up way too much time in total.
Flare star is based on the level of the target it hits. The formula is 35 x target's level. So since I am level 1, it deals only 35 x1 = 35 damage. If you're level 99, it will deal 35 x99 = 3465 damage.
@Uncharted2fan8D That is possible by fighting random battles and using petrify/stop on all the enemies. This ends the battle, and gives you no exp, BUT you get AP.
If you mean bosses, they don't give exp. As for some of the non-optional battles that GIVE exp, I had help from Vivi's stop magic and Quina's ability to petrify. Petrifying or stopping enemeies result in no exp gain.
Now I'm a little bit spoiled here, I'm still in Ipsen's Castle, disk 3. But anyway, this is just fantastic, and I just cannot understand how you're doing. Very good job!
Thank you :)
No, not all of them. As far as I can remember, only Flare Star deals damage based on level. But because of my equipment and abilites, I am able to withstand the other attacks pretty well too.
Long story short: I run from all the random battles in the game. Boss battles do not give exp in FF IX. And then there are some non-optional battles that do give exp, where I have to avoid gaining exp by petrifying or stopping the enemies.
Flare Star does 35 damage. As I've said many times before, it deals damage = 35 multiplied with the target's level. So since All my characters are level 1, the damage will be 35 x 1 = 35.
Of course they do. Flare star deals damage based on the level of the target it hits. The formula is 35 x level, so since I am all level 1, I have nothing to fear from it. If your characters are level 90, flare star deals exactly 3150 damage on each of them.
@Nevnarion also the flee gil ability you get from basic items
I run from every random battle. Boss battles don't give exp. There are some non-boss battles that have to be fought, and in those ones I use a little of Vivi's stop magic, some petrifying from Quina, etc. etc.
Well, I guess that depends alot on what you want to achieve, and what you prefer. The party I use here (Zidane, Freya, Eiko and Quina) is the best one fit for the level 1 game. But personally, when playing a normal game, my favorite team is Zidane, Garnet, Vivi and Steiner. This team provides both black magic, white magic (and summons), and physical strength.
Flare star deals damage based on the level of target. (damage = 35 x level). And besides, equipment helps more to defence and magical defence than level does.
wow this must have taken so long.
running from all battles,
making sure you had the virus status all the time.
that's so crazy. good job!
Bosses don't give any exp. And for the few non-optional fights that give exp, I had Quina equip Add Status ability and Needle Fork, there is a chance that s/he will petrify the enemy.
After Gizamaluke's Grotto, I dug up the chocobo treasure box at "SMALL BEACH", which contains Oak Staff, giving Vivi the ability Stop.
Yeah, that's pretty simple actually. Because the character's levels when you get them all depends on what level the characters you already have are. So when you meet a new character with your chars at level 1, that new one won't have higher level either. One thing I know is that Amarant's level is calculated from what level Blank is. And since you have him in your team a few times in the beginning of the game, you have to asure he doesn't gain levels as well.
What attacks are you referring to? Flare star? It's damage is based on target's level. Also rememer, for some of the other attacks, I am well equipped with auto reflect and other usefull abilities and equipment that helps me survive strong attacks.
I got my party here on level 1 by running from all the random battles in the game. Boss battles do not give experience.
@drakiyth The Final Bosses are made easy so that players don't have to grind for ages to finish the storyline. If you want something that requires a massive effort to defeat, try the optional bosses.
@Roisin25300 There are alot of chests around which gives alot of stuff that you can sell. Just selling all equipment and accessories and stuff that you dont need anyway, helps alot on the money making.
It's not the armour that stops the flare, it's level. Flare star damage is based on the level of the target. 35 x level = damage.
Remember, I don't show up there naked. I have the best equipment you know. And that counts for a lot.
Kuja uses Flare Star alot, and that is a formula-based attack, dealing 35 x target's level. So in my case, level 1, it deals 35 damage. Against a level 99 party on the other hand, it will deal 35 x99 = 3465 damage.
And as you see, I am also very much helped with Auto-Reflect and Auto-Life.
That's right. There is a point in the game there where gaining exp is unavoidable. So I had to have some of my characters gain exp, and then of course never use them again (to not spoil the level 1-game)
Zidane has Ultimate Weapon, Adaman Hat and Rossetta Ring.
Freya has Dragon's Hair, Platina Armor and Rossetta Ring.
Eiko has Adaman Hat and Madian Ring.
Quina has Adaman Hat and Rossetta Ring.
For all of the characters, the rest of the equipment should be focusing at getting them to as high Magic Evasion as possible.
I only have one question. How were you able to powerup Freya's Dragon Crest without levelling up? I know you have to kill 100 dragons to get it to do 9999 damage, so how did you manage to NOT level while doing that?
actually it did 35, and that is because its damage is calculated by the target's level. The formula it uses is 35 x target's level. So you can imagine if I was level 99, the damage inflicted would have been 35x99=3465. But since I am level 1, the damage is 35x1=35.
what I mean? I mean (as shown in this video) that I kept my party on level 1 the whole game through. That is possible by escaping all random battles. Boss battles do not give experience. Using good armour and abilities help alot more than people think, and level itself is overrated.
Yes that's true, so in those three battles, three of your characters must level up. That means you can't use them anymore after that (for it to be a correct lvl 1 game). Fortunately this is so near the end of the game, that it doesn't matter too much.
@elpaisitadeoro I fought bosses. But bosses in Final Fantasy IX don't give you any exp, so that's not a problem. :)
@Coldheart61595 Mandragoras in the small forest northeast of Chocobo Forest
Correct. But remember, it took a while before I got these attacks maxed out, so I couldn't use them earlier in the game. So it's not like I surfed through dealing 9999 damage on all bosses.
Exp can't be avoided in those three battles, so you have to do a level 1-sacrifice. What I did was give the exp to Amarant, Dagger and Steiner. After these battles, I could not use those three again (cause that would spoil the level 1 game).
Zidane's Ultima Weapon is found by going on a chocobo to the place where the Shimmering Island once was, and use a dead pepper there.
oh ok nenvarion i see your point very well done for completing the challenge and congratulations.i might attempt it myself but the 4 chaos guardions they must have been very hard to defeat do u have any videos showning u defeating them please
well done again
Yes, but their level depends on what level your other characters are. As long as the others are kept at level 1, new ones will be as well.
Oh, and yes, Amarant's level is depending on Blank's level, so don't have him gain any exp either at the start of the game.
I get 9999 dragon crest by fighting dragons with characters in virus status. That way, they don't gain exp.
The damage dealt by flare star is based on a formula, that is 35 x target's level. Since my level is 1, the damage is 35 x 1 = 35 :)
I you have damaged Kuja with 8500 dmg, and use dragon breath with will deal 8500 dmg, if you have reduce kuja's max hap for 34654, you will deal 9999 dmg, basically it's the same as minus strike. If I remember correctly
When I fought the dragons, I had all my characters in Virus status. That way, they won't gain any experience.
And as an answer to what you said about just entering the battle with low hp/mp, I would like you all to keep attention to when Zidane uses Auto-Potion. He has 35 HP left, and uses potion which heals him by 150 HP. If I "just entered the battle with low hp", can you explain how he still after that potion has 105 HP only?
Flare star is based on the target's level. It's 35 multiplied with level. So there you have an other proof I am level 1. Since that formula gives: 35 x 1 = 35.
Didn't need to downgrade, because they were already level 1 when I got them. This is because their starting level is based on the levels of the other characters I have. And since I kept them all at level 1, the new ones will be there as well.
Because Flare Star always deals damage = 35 multiplied with the target's level. So since All my characters are level 1, the damage will be 35 x 1 = 35.
Virus status did I get by fighting the Yans on that little island (you probably know what I mean). They are damn hard to beat, even on high level. But I only had to surivive long enough to get them use virus on me, and then I could flee. Fortunately for me, virus is a status that does not go away even if the character is KO'ed
You can get running shoes by bringing Quina and Vivi to Quan's Cave. You can also get another pair of running shoes by fighting Amdusias in the Treno weapon shop. :)
I ran from all random battles, boss battles do not give exp.
Limit Glove is learned by having Quina eat mandragoras found in a forest close to Chocobo Forest.
I agree, that is my favorite team as well.
BUT:
Does Vivi have an attack that deals 9999 damage, even when he's level 1?
Does Dagger? Or Steiner?
This is a level 1 game.
@astigmareal i know i should have done that, but this video wasn't originally made for youtube, I just recorded it for my own, so I could look back and remember when I did it on lvl 1. And when i was gonna upload it here, i didn't care to re-do it, because I didn't really upload it to prove anything, I just thought maybe other people wanted to see it.
No, because Flare Star's damage is based on the target's level. The formula is level x 35 = damage, so in this case it is 1 x 35 = 35.
TY for the explaionation. ive currently downloaded ff9 with an emulator and im reliving the wonderfull memories from the game. did you kill off zidane at the begining so you wouldnt get xp cos i dont know any early monsters that give virus?
Yep, you got it. Most people seem to believe stats all come from the level. I thought so too earlier. But equips are what really makes a strong team. ;)
yea, zidane becomes really sweet if you get his speed up to 50 with auto haste, and i was wonderin, you said you tried to get excaliber 2, when you tried were you skipping the cg scenes?
Yes, it is based on how many times Zidane has stolen items from enemies. Each time Zidane successfully steals something from an enemy, the damage of Thievery goes up by 12. So you need 834 steals to have it do 9999 damage. I didn't bother getting it all the way up there though =P
I am not sure, I don't know anything about that. If there are any monsters in that area that give virus status.
No reward, no. I did this just because I thought it sounded like a fun challenge to try, and it was. I think you get a whole new perspective of the game when you see it through on level 1. You suddenly discover all the tactical possibilities there are, and how much equipment and skills really count, way more than level.
Nevnarion do u know when you ate enemies with quina to get some of her blue magic where u in virus when u defeated them. Because u still get experience after eating enemies so were u in virus and what monsters did u get the abilities from?
nad the summons depend on the number of your magic stones .i.e
the more ores the more dmg will odin do .
the more garnets the more damage will bahamut do
the more lapis lazulis tha more ark will do
the more opals the more shiva will do and so on check gamefaqs for a great list
potions can always be found in chests or stolen from enemies. Or bought, later in the game you get enough money even though you don't fight any random battles. Selling phoenix pinions and ethers, selling equipment I don't need anymore...there is much money to get from that.
No, the bosses and monsters do not level with you in FF9 like they do in FF8. The reason I am not blown away in one shot is because I have very good equipment, and a good amount of the character's stats come from their equipment and not their level.
And yes, bosses give AP only. No exp.
Evenoyeah: To record what I play, I connect the PS2's scart contact to the videomachine, find the video channel on the tv, and record while I play. So far, so easy.
The main problem I got was how the hell do I get this to my PC so I can share it with the world?
Well, I bought a tv-card for my PC, and with that, I could connect the videomachine to the comp. Then I used the software that came with the tv-card, it's called Pinnacle TV Senter, to save the video to an avi-file. :)
Awesome job! Just curious, how did u manage to reach Kuja level1? I get the part about fleeing all the random mobs, but what about the bosses?
how did you stay level 1? and where do you find a limit glove? ive beaten it twice and never har that item before, that i can remember at least.
awesome job. i never beat ozma though =[
You're right about killing dragons to power up dragon's crest. But I had my party in virus status, and that prevents them from getting experience.
What equips did you use if you dont mind me asking? I love this game and would like to try this out a bit. :P
@Nevnarion
Actually Kuja's does x40, not x35.
PS.Wait, what? Villain casts Holy? That's WHITE magic spell! (yeah, offensive spell, but still white magic).
Holy. Shit. When I clicked this link, I said, "That's impossible." Well played, sir. Well played.
Man, Kuja has probably the silliest outfit of any villain in the entire Final Fantasy series.
Good point. And that was a very hard part. I had to reset my game over and over again, till I got a battle where I fight only TWO spiders. Then I had the whole party alive, so they shared the exp. Everyone got 11 exp, and that did not level them up. Then I had to run for my live to prevent more spider-encounters.
Something I don't understand... How did you get Freya's Dragon's Crest do 9999 damage? If you kill a dragon you receive EXP, so if you kill 100 dragons your level will be much higher then level one.
Petrifying doesn't count, you have to kill them. But that can easily be done when characters are in virus status (they don't receive exp)
@queermobile Eating an enemy isnt a problem when you run into a group of 2 or more, since you can just eat one, and flee from battle to avoid any exp gain.
I did not have virus status at that moment. I met more than one enemy in a battle, ate one, and escaped from the rest. That gives no experience.
I got Quina's limit glove-ability from eating a mandragora.
I'll wish you good luck then. :) It's a hard but very fun challenge to go true. I've considered doing it on ff7 or 8 myself, but I also want to try out for the one-man-party challenge as well, so we'll see.
This isn't fake. Thievery, for example, can do 9999 damage even if u are in lv1, because it deals damage based on the times u've stolen. And Dark matter, for example, deals 9999 damage. And u have Karma from Amarant that can keep u alive in some battles.
Back up, isn't freya's attack (Dragon's Crest) Only raised by killing dragons? Or does petrefiying them count as killing them...
Being level 1 IS harder, no doubt about that. But it's not so much harder than you would first believe, because many attacks are based on level, and having the best fit equipment counts more than most ppl believe.
Some of Ozma's attacks for instance, are based on the level of the target. Same goes for Kuja.
@Nevnarion Oh wow, I never would have thought about that o.o good choice there.
i get stuck at the part where ur at the snowy sland (disc 3) that i think is at the top left of map, i cant get any further in the place cos of a big door/gate how do i get through?
@queermobile never said i didnt kill anything. Its true, i killed dragons to get dragons crest to do 9999. But i did that with my entire party having virus status on them. Virus pretends them from gaining any exp.
It's alright if you're suspicious, I can understand that :) I got my virus status in disc 3 by travveling to the little island where you encounter Yans. They gave me the status. Earlier on, I used other methods to avoid gaining exp, like running from battles, and using petrify and stop also.
@Nevnarion What version of the game are you playing? I thought flare stare did 50 x target level.
I think sacrificing Amarant is ok. I never used him in my level 1 game anyway, so it doesn't really matter if he gains levels.
@deadlykidCs I fought against the Yan enemies and got my whole party infected with the virus status. this prevents them from gaining exp, and with my whole party with this, i could fight as many battles I wanted. :)
just a question nevnarion what dragons did you face to increase freya's dragon crest damage up to 9999?
how did you manage not to get any exp.? i mean there some part of the game that zidane alone must fight..
like the monster hunt in linblum... maybe u can say that u can use petrification.. but this stat is only a chance not 100%..correct me if im wrong...
that makes sense, just one more question. Doesn't the virus status get introduced later in the game. What did you do up until then?
That's wrong. It counts for FF8 though, but not in FF9. The enemy is at one decided level, and has a locked amount of HP. Whether the player is level 1 or level 99 when he/she meets for instance Ozma, doesn't affect the fact that Ozma is level 99 and has 55 535 HP.
Trance Kuja (as seen is this vid)is level 76 and has 55 535 HP. For Necron, he is level 69 and has 54 100 HP.