Marc... you're the man... ;-) that USB/spice remote mapping is a bonus... ;-)) I was just probing proxmox as a container aternative to Docker/Portainer or Podman... ;-)))
Hi, glad you could use it - I love the Spice remote viewing but I do use it on a remote Windows Machine that's running iTunes for my (local) iPhone - it's very handy !
I am taking some days of to work through our Kali Linux. Worked with a lot before proxmos and loved it. Never used the headless and lxc setup but will go for it now.
I'm a bit confused by the N in parenthesis for headless and containers. Virtualbox appears to have headless support (for quite some time) using VBoxManage or VBoxHeadless. Libvirt/virsh/virt-manager provides management support for LXC containers, if you install the some additional packages from the distro repos. In a recent Ubuntu Mate 22.04 install, I see two network interfaces for libvirt - virbr0 for qemu/kvm VM's, and lxcbr0 for (presumably) LXC containers.
Hi, I am definitely planning on doing some more "down to earth" videos on Proxmox. Just realized that I attracted a lot of people w/r to Proxmox but then went off doing some rather scientific videos about MPTCP and the like ;-) I'll publish a couple of "Tips and Tricks" style videos shortly on Proxmox and will for sure address network questions more closely.
Mark, it would be nice to see some benchmark comparison between Hyper-V, Proxmox and Virtual Box: disk, network, CPU and GPU. My experience from a few years ago was that Virtual Box and especially VMware performed very poorly when accessing disk and network. Use the host as a reference.
Great point George! It’s no surprise the Windows solutions are slower as they run on top of Windows… Doing a benchmark test would require reinstall at least twice though - at the moment I don’t have the hardware for that- but I was also thinking of benchmarking virtio drivers against emulated drivers… I might do that at a later time- many thanks for the feedback!
@@OneMarcFifty I'm glad you like the idea! I can offer tools to benchmark disk and network, check FB! You can multi-boot the same PC from one or more disks, to save time. I have 5 versions of Windows, 2 Linux and FreeBSD on the same computer.
I have a usb printer that only works under windows XP.. could I create an XP virtual machine (preferably VirtualBox) that can talk directly to the printer, even though the host Windows 10 machine will show it as not having a driver error for it?
You are right. OSI stands for Open Systems Interconnection model which is however adopted as a standard by the International Organization for Standardization (ISO). But - again - strictly speaking you are right ! my bad ;-)
@@OneMarcFifty With zero comments posted, I couldn't resist. I enjoy your vids. Although this one is not particularly relevant for me, I watched it anyway. P.S. Great sound quality. What mic. do you use?
@@sarkybugger5009 Oh - that's very kind of you. Thank you ;-) I am not surprised this video gets fewer views, likes and comments - it's probably the "weakest" in this series. I just wanted to be "complete" as VMs still are an option if you need hardware mapping etc. w/r to sound - that was a decision I made very early for my channel as I think bad audio is a turn-off. I use various lavalier mikes (I've used Rode Smartlav (50 EUR) and Walimex Pro (25 EUR) ) , but this is an AGPTEK 9.50 EUR Mike ;-) I just found that it sounds more natural with my voice. For recording I use the Zoom H1n recorder with an audio rate of 96 KHz.
@@OneMarcFifty Really impressive sound quality for such a low price. Very clear. I often struggle with other channel's audio... It's a keeper, that's for sure!
Yeah - well - I do agree to some extend. Basically if you _can_ use containers, then do so! There still are circumstances where you would need VMs, such as running an OS on top of a different one or access hardware. But you are right - many people do waste resources by running one Linux on top of the other for example. Stay tuned for the next 3 episodes which are 100% container ;-)
This is the second Kali video in a series of 5 this week - enjoy ;-)
Marc... you're the man... ;-)
that USB/spice remote mapping is a bonus... ;-))
I was just probing proxmox as a container aternative to Docker/Portainer or Podman... ;-)))
Hi, glad you could use it - I love the Spice remote viewing but I do use it on a remote Windows Machine that's running iTunes for my (local) iPhone - it's very handy !
I am taking some days of to work through our Kali Linux. Worked with a lot before proxmos and loved it. Never used the headless and lxc setup but will go for it now.
worked out nice, habe now my CT running with kali.
Awesome, thanks for feeding back ;-)
Thanks for the comparison!
Really well explained. Thanks for all
Thank you very much
I'm a bit confused by the N in parenthesis for headless and containers. Virtualbox appears to have headless support (for quite some time) using VBoxManage or VBoxHeadless. Libvirt/virsh/virt-manager provides management support for LXC containers, if you install the some additional packages from the distro repos. In a recent Ubuntu Mate 22.04 install, I see two network interfaces for libvirt - virbr0 for qemu/kvm VM's, and lxcbr0 for (presumably) LXC containers.
Yes, you are right - I had even made a video on that. I might change (N) into (Y) ;-)
Great video!
Outstanding!
Hi Mark, like always thorough and informative. Any chance you might discuss in details the 4 networking options for ProxMox you mentioned here?
Hi, I am definitely planning on doing some more "down to earth" videos on Proxmox. Just realized that I attracted a lot of people w/r to Proxmox but then went off doing some rather scientific videos about MPTCP and the like ;-) I'll publish a couple of "Tips and Tricks" style videos shortly on Proxmox and will for sure address network questions more closely.
Great video. But QEMU runs on mac os with a front end called UTM and command line.
Oh cool - didn't know that - thanks for sharing!
Mark, it would be nice to see some benchmark comparison between Hyper-V, Proxmox and Virtual Box: disk, network, CPU and GPU.
My experience from a few years ago was that Virtual Box and especially VMware performed very poorly when accessing disk and network. Use the host as a reference.
Great point George! It’s no surprise the Windows solutions are slower as they run on top of Windows… Doing a benchmark test would require reinstall at least twice though - at the moment I don’t have the hardware for that- but I was also thinking of benchmarking virtio drivers against emulated drivers… I might do that at a later time- many thanks for the feedback!
@@OneMarcFifty I'm glad you like the idea! I can offer tools to benchmark disk and network, check FB! You can multi-boot the same PC from one or more disks, to save time. I have 5 versions of Windows, 2 Linux and FreeBSD on the same computer.
I have a usb printer that only works under windows XP.. could I create an XP virtual machine (preferably VirtualBox) that can talk directly to the printer, even though the host Windows 10 machine will show it as not having a driver error for it?
Hello, VirtualBox can run headless.
Marc, is it not the OSI-Layer 2 instead the ISO-Layer 2 ?
You are right. OSI stands for Open Systems Interconnection model which is however adopted as a standard by the International Organization for Standardization (ISO). But - again - strictly speaking you are right ! my bad ;-)
Excelent video
Many thanks
Obligatory comment. 😉
Well erm.... thanks ;-)
@@OneMarcFifty With zero comments posted, I couldn't resist. I enjoy your vids. Although this one is not particularly relevant for me, I watched it anyway.
P.S. Great sound quality. What mic. do you use?
@@sarkybugger5009 Oh - that's very kind of you. Thank you ;-) I am not surprised this video gets fewer views, likes and comments - it's probably the "weakest" in this series. I just wanted to be "complete" as VMs still are an option if you need hardware mapping etc. w/r to sound - that was a decision I made very early for my channel as I think bad audio is a turn-off. I use various lavalier mikes (I've used Rode Smartlav (50 EUR) and Walimex Pro (25 EUR) ) , but this is an AGPTEK 9.50 EUR Mike ;-) I just found that it sounds more natural with my voice. For recording I use the Zoom H1n recorder with an audio rate of 96 KHz.
@@OneMarcFifty Really impressive sound quality for such a low price. Very clear. I often struggle with other channel's audio...
It's a keeper, that's for sure!
It's nice and all, but VMs are already out of fashion, containers is the future, VMs are simply waste of resources.
Yeah - well - I do agree to some extend. Basically if you _can_ use containers, then do so! There still are circumstances where you would need VMs, such as running an OS on top of a different one or access hardware. But you are right - many people do waste resources by running one Linux on top of the other for example. Stay tuned for the next 3 episodes which are 100% container ;-)