Many of the machining community have been searching for the "Rose Index" without success, especially outside of the USA. This gives us all a chance to make our own, your explanation and delivery, were not over paced and missing pertinent points. Thank you will order a blank today.
Excellent production Lee. You have got the gears in my head moving now. This works great on round stock in the vice. Now I am thinking about bolting the Rose Index to an aluminum pallet plate and therefore clamping the Rose Index into the vice. You could use it to build the next size Rose index. Just drill a center hole in the square piece of material you are going to machine then rotate it to the next index. This eliminates the need for the rotary spacer between the vice and the table. Could make an interesting video. Thanks for making this one. Fell free to use my idea to make another video if you so choose to do so.
That would be a very handy jig to have, definitely worth making one. I might some day but need to get caught up on the "honey do" and "to do" lists first, lol!
Outstanding Lee! Something you might want to look into in order to save material is trepanning. Both Tom Lipton and Joe Pie did excellent videos on it and as a hobbyists I found it very useful any time I need a hole greater than 1".
A hole saw or annular cutter could be used to make the center opening. If this option is used, select a hole saw or annular cutter smaller than desired diameter, followed by putting the hex portion of the index in a 3-jaw lathe chuck and boring opening to desired diameter.
Thank you for the videos. I came to ask about the 3 and 5 sided and see the comments full of my same thoughts, mostly if you make the number of sides divisible by two you will always be able to clamp on 2 sides flat. What about a 7/14 sided, that would take some math to get 360- almost frustrating to adjust to. I don't really know the ultimate end purpose of your fixturing device so I will leave it for you to finish in your way and see what you bring us.
The square is redundant. Just use every other edge of the octagon. Same with the hexagon for three. A 12 sided polygon would give 12, 6, 4, 3 and 2. 10 sides gives 10, 5 and 2. I think a 8-10-12 is the way to go. The polygons can be clocked to have 2 fully flat sides, which can be used for the set screw(s). I would counterbore for a cap screw.
What size is that vise? 5''? Because i have a similar machine and I wanted to buy a 6'' Vertex vise, do you think that gonna fit well? The table of my machine is around 9 1/2'' x 32''
The rose index is patented after all. And if you don’t know, that’s a great deal of effort to patent and bring something to market. It’s also a much better finished product with a lot of R and D on the best materials, coatings, and manufacturing processes to make it a reliable and functional product.
I wanted to make a rose index myself, thanks for making it so easy to understand.
Many of the machining community have been searching for the "Rose Index" without success, especially outside of the USA. This gives us all a chance to make our own, your explanation and delivery, were not over paced and missing pertinent points. Thank you will order a blank today.
Great video and a great build there Mr. Peden. Looking forward to the other versions.
Always good to catch a shift in the work piece before irreparable harm is done. These will be great additions to your shop tooling.
Great video, good narrative. You can use a 6 sided fixture to cut 3 sides (skip every other side).
12 sided covers 2 3 4 6 and 12.... For 8 you need either an 8 sided or a 45° attachment.
Unless you offset the 12-sided to your square-stock by 45°
Excellent production Lee. You have got the gears in my head moving now. This works great on round stock in the vice. Now I am thinking about bolting the Rose Index to an aluminum pallet plate and therefore clamping the Rose Index into the vice. You could use it to build the next size Rose index. Just drill a center hole in the square piece of material you are going to machine then rotate it to the next index. This eliminates the need for the rotary spacer between the vice and the table. Could make an interesting video. Thanks for making this one. Fell free to use my idea to make another video if you so choose to do so.
Very nice job and a handy jig for the shop. Thank you
Thank you for the great video. I too will make these jigs. More tools, the better.
Hello Lee,
Nice work and very well explained...
Take care.
Paul,,
That would be a very handy jig to have, definitely worth making one. I might some day but need to get caught up on the "honey do" and "to do" lists first, lol!
Outstanding Lee! Something you might want to look into in order to save material is trepanning. Both Tom Lipton and Joe Pie did excellent videos on it and as a hobbyists I found it very useful any time I need a hole greater than 1".
Or maybe a holesaw?
A hole saw or annular cutter could be used to make the center opening. If this option is used, select a hole saw or annular cutter smaller than desired diameter, followed by putting the hex portion of the index in a 3-jaw lathe chuck and boring opening to desired diameter.
Nice...going to copy your idea of the new index, but in 3d print
I did make one and the owner of the patent of the rose index got all bent out of shape!
Nicely done Lee
Thank you for these videos. I'm going to make all of these.
Great Video, Looking for ward to seeing you make a 3 and 5 sided fixture for sure. Thank you
Thank you for the videos. I came to ask about the 3 and 5 sided and see the comments full of my same thoughts, mostly if you make the number of sides divisible by two you will always be able to clamp on 2 sides flat. What about a 7/14 sided, that would take some math to get 360- almost frustrating to adjust to. I don't really know the ultimate end purpose of your fixturing device so I will leave it for you to finish in your way and see what you bring us.
The square is redundant. Just use every other edge of the octagon. Same with the hexagon for three.
A 12 sided polygon would give 12, 6, 4, 3 and 2.
10 sides gives 10, 5 and 2.
I think a 8-10-12 is the way to go. The polygons can be clocked to have 2 fully flat sides, which can be used for the set screw(s). I would counterbore for a cap screw.
How about 4-5-6.
Too many sides would be hard to adjust as they are small.
You need to put a v in the bottom!
Could you put your lock down bolt on the next flat either clockwise or counterclockwise so you would always have a flat you could square up to.
What size is that vise? 5''? Because i have a similar machine and I wanted to buy a 6'' Vertex vise, do you think that gonna fit well? The table of my machine is around 9 1/2'' x 32''
thank you.
I am assuming that the material you are using is aluminium???
Just curious where did you hear of this idea?
The old rose index guy will be commenting soon I guarantee! Haha
The rose index is patented after all. And if you don’t know, that’s a great deal of effort to patent and bring something to market. It’s also a much better finished product with a lot of R and D on the best materials, coatings, and manufacturing processes to make it a reliable and functional product.
A set screw would work better than the bolt!