Game Theory: FNAF, Buried and Forgotten (Security Breach Ruin)
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- Опубліковано 11 сер 2023
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Friends, Since Five Nights At Freddy's Ruin came out there have been SO many unanswered questions within the community! Which Security Breach ending is canon? Is that OUR Fredy? What really happened to Cassie? I'm here today with all of those answers and MORE! So get those VANNY masks on so we can all see the TRUTH together!
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Writers: Matthew Patrick, and Tom Robinson
Editors: Dan "Cybert" Seibert, Tyler Mascola, Danial "BanditRants" Keristoufi, KL Allen, Pedro Freitas and Warak
Sound Designer: Yosi Berman
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Cool,thanks guys
You forget to pin this I think
Third coming on MatPat’s
That radioactive merch is fire
how long's it gonna be in the store? i get 10 bucks every week and only have 16.25 rn.. i cant justify myself to ask my mom to get me it 😣
I haven’t played a single fnaf game, but I have all this lore stored in my head for no reason at all.
Same
You got a point
same. I've binged watched markipliers whole fnaf playlist on repeat like 10 times. I know all the lore by heart
Same
ditto
The idea that Freddy was taken out of the AI system because he was rebooted in safe mode could also help explain why Roxy saved Cassie despite having been shut off. Perhaps instead of actually shutting Roxy off, Cassie actually rebooted her (like the daycare attendant) and being rebooted into safe mode explains why she can be taken off the network (no longer being a security node) but still able to get up and save Cassie.
Why is everybody so much better at Theorizing than me
@@MandoGuy12fr
Now this makes so much more sense
My theory is Gregory was actually at the pizzaplex when he contacts us before the chase, Walkie Talkie's don't have the best range after all. So I think he and or Vanessa rebooted Roxy, who quickly came down to rescue Cassie, and Gregory and or Vanessa destroyed the elevator (for what reasons, we don't know yet.)
Don't read my name
Sounds like matpat is starting to enjoy fnaf lore again. Last few videos sounded like he was close to losing his sanity 😂
Every video sound like he's a loose canon ngl it's just MatPat
@@randomsavageperson2918He is Ness from fnaf, which is canon for real 😅
@@user-tm6pj5ry6z what does that have to do with like anything said here bro?
he's been losing his sanity over this lore since fnaf 4
looks like matpat is losing his sanity and uploading less, lets encourage him with a controlled shock!
Roxy's endo isn't changed from the original SB at all in Ruin, she clearly put on another Endo face as a "mask" to hide her grotesque look after her snout probably fell off when the place collapsed. Furthermore while it does line up that the headless Freddy is the remains of Freddy from the main game, Steel Wool wouldn't have put "prototype" on his foot for no reason or as a design change from the base game.
Yeah, this probably ties into Freddys unused voiceline of "older models" (yeah he is probably talking about past games Freddys but it also could hint at past Glamrock Freddys)
Either way, it is leading that this Freddy is not on the Vanni like the Freddy we knew, and he doesn't have a head too. We might need more information as to why he is not the same Freddy if he isn't, cause there are more pros than cons for him being the same then for being a different one.
I COME FROM THE FUTURE, you're pretty much right actually. she takes a mask in help wanted 2.
Yup it is a mask in help wanted 2 you’re supposed to give Roxy a makeover after her face got destroyed. She gets fed up then takes the mask
At this point, with all the layers of old structures and caves that exist below the Pizzaplex, I can't help but imagine that it's located on a suspiciously large hill that towers above the surrounding city.
😂😂😂
next fnaf game is set in the core of the earth, under the pizzaplex
I've always just been curious how many km deep these locations are, if the pizzaplex mall is at ground level
@@bipbapboop1140 So what we're going to do when we emerge on the other side of the Earth? Go into space?
@@kevinwest7111FNaF 58: Freddy in Space😂 I think it's in FNaF World
Guess this means yet ANOTHER "Final FNAF Timeline" from Matpat is inevitable
Nah, give it 2 or 3 years first
@@Legithiro*months
Jojo part 10
Let’s be honest… Matpat is inevitable
@@Karma-gb1xbfax
“Am I saving Cassie is Charlie? No. I might one day” is the perfect description of MatPat and ever-growing fnaf lore
I’d love to see how the blob ties into this. Like Gregory says the damages were cause by something escaping and the blob is sighted near the surface.
Sadly, this MatPat video made me cringe hard. He got so many things wrong, that I would honestly hate to see him to try explain the Amalgamation and drag it into his craziness.
@@tonyf4991 Could you explain what he got wrong? Not trying to be rude js genuinely curious
@@litzyantero5274 I can, but it would have to be after 7 as I am working right now. But I will break it down tonight for you, and you'll see why I said what I said.
@@litzyantero5274 I hope all this helped.
@@tonyf4991Sadly nothing will top the cringe of your profile pic
Matpat truly never escapes FNaF huh? He’ll always come back.
Nah@@DJILMarioBrosOfficial
Just like these bots 💀
@@mosterchife6045UA-cam BETTER DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE BOTS
The other OTHER Anti-Afton.
Nope.
The lore is actually starting to make sense now
Cap
Nice
Nice
MatPat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging...
Yeah, indeed.
Not sure if this has already been touched on, but does the post-it note room from Security Breach have any more relevance now that Ruin has been released? Perhaps they were attempting to train it, before it was sealed away? It could even be proof of that the whole Edwin story may have some truth to it.
It's 2 in the morning, ive just had the worst week of my life, i don't have any will to live anymore, and yet here i am. Watching matpat explain five nights at freddys lore again.
I hope you are okay and that you get help if you need it.
hope everything gets easier if you need an ear we can exchange contact info (socials) take care
@@heeroomi thanks, but ill be fine in the end, itll get better
y u telling us that?
tmi bruh
Only Matpat would find a speed running strat looking for hidden lore in a fnaf dlc
fr
That’s him
@@DJILMarioBrosOfficial is the bot so just ignore it
you should totally translate this comment that i commented using google translate because i dont speak Burmese
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@@zephyrhowtogaming1836 report the bots
I think the 'Prototype' on Freddy's foot was more of a clarification from Steel Wool. We see and hear a few times in Security Breach that Freddy has glitched out at least once before, and that Freddy is the only one that has any power issues at all; the other animatronics don't need to recharge as often as Freddy does. Freddy also isn't sure if he's the first "Glamrock Freddy," implying that there may have been more Freddys before the Freddy we meet in Security Breach.
Actually…This makes sense
More Freddys than you can ever Freddy for Fazbear's
@@Aereto5 freddy’s at night
They say though that Freddy would be replaced by having his parts put onto another Endo they wouldn't need to do all that if there was another Freddy implying there is one casting per animatronic
MatPat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging...
Remember when you had to watch the curtain to see if it had moved? And if it did then you have to close the vent so foxy wouldn’t get you. Simple times.
A thing I noticed: Sun and Moon have the same teeth as the Mimic. They used to be jesters, maybe they were from circus baby's? Meaning that the mimic was from that era. Kinda interesting.
The Matpat Incident will be forever remembered as one of the most comedic contribution to the Speed-running Community.
ok
What did he do?
@@dadreiantennyson4489 he found a glitch that made him skip an entire chapter in the ruin dlc
He found a glitch that let him skip a huge section of the game, ironically it was a pretty lore heavy part
wasnt that found before he accidentally did it tho?
this franchise went from reminent and agony to AI very quickly.
Ai is a lot more dangerous in real life than you might think, my friend
True, also remnant not reminent
Meh , never really liked the remnant stuff but AI has my attention
And, to me at least, it's a welcome change.
it was a smart shift to make, considering remnant and agony were pretty consistent with only being mentioned in the books it made making new fans to get into the lore difficult, to make games that retroactively take the books and shift the way the power scaling works in the series is brilliant.
I’m glad that we also finally got the answer about Bonnie. I still don’t know how to feel about the Freddy we see be out Freddy. It feels like the “Prototype” being on his foot is really important. I’m excited to see the follow up for this theory.
This actually makes finding chica’s voice box make more sense! For the princess quest ending, Freddy either has chica’s voice box or Monty’s claws. Prototype Freddy has Monty claws, but it’s unclear if it has Chica’s voice box. We can find and re-insert chica’s voice box because it wasn’t put into Freddy.
It wouldnt explain why she is so damadged (most of the damage caused by gregory) and has zero voice box
It actually would not make sense because the Vanny ending is part of Fazer Blast, so that means going Chica's path was canonically first and Monty's was second. Freddy should have the voice box regardless, but we find him without his head. The voice box isn't inside him, though it *should* be nearby Freddy along with Monty's claws. The only reason it isn't is most likely because it was part of an abandoned side quest.
I think the fact that Matpat and John have almost identical theories regarding the books is so cool.
@DJILMarioBrosOfficialNah
@DJILMarioBrosOfficialdon’t care
@DJILMarioBrosOfficialNuh uh.
John?
I was just coming to comment that. So true.
MatPat 2014: Freddy is our main enemy he will never die.
MatPat 2023: Rest In Peace Freddy
It is what it is 🤷♂️
@@MrAdd077 It is what it is
@@bones0013It is what it is.
@@Ruby3Pit is what it is
@@A.s2476it is what it is
I have a theory about The Mimic from the Ruin DLC. Hear me out, what if The Mimic is possess by the man himself William Afton.
He is still trapped by Cassidy. Plus, him and GlitchTrap wouldn't see each other as enemies.
so cool to see how far Matpat and his Team have come, that merch segment is honestly pretty cool
it’s pretty obvious that the story has been improvised over the years… but Scott’s ability to make every new part of the lore be parallel and make perfect sense with the older games is unmatched.
Scott has mentioned that he has only retconned ONE thing across all the games.
So ether this was all planned from the start, or...
Idk about PERFECT sense, but yeah, it is pretty impressive.
@@librariantopokemon What was the thing he retconned?
Perfect sense isn’t a word I’d use.
@@jasonalen7459idk if it's confirmed or just speculation but afaik the general consensus is that he retconned the bite of '87 into the bite of '83
MatPat and John sharing a brain cell with these theories is the second funniest thing that came with this DLC, behind the *huge* collab 😂
And 3rd place goes to the monty dog memes
Yeah
Exactly what I was thinking
@@DJILMarioBrosOfficial i know who you are bot. Stop commenting on videos nobody wants to sub to your scam channel
Bro I just realized. John is probably going to have a field day with circus baby being made by Henry. Can't wait to see how he tries to justify it as a stolen Charliebot
Who's rewatching these theories now?
👇🏽
"they seem to react to your flashlight for whatever reason"
they did it guys
"somehow palpatine returned" is used as a legit way to explain plotholes
I was laughing as I watched Markiplier playing the game when it got to The Mimic.
My literal first thoughts were "MatPat was right on the money here"
I bet everyone that denied it and thought it was stupid felt really dumb that day when that scene happened. 😅 Never underestimate Mattpatt haha
@@jaydabomb2510 Even if Mat was wrong we all have to remember it was just a Theory A *GAME THEORY!*
I loved watching Mark call out MatPat in his video 😂
@@legendarytronic7774thanks for watching
@AdalineAlice I... think you meant to post this as your own comment instead of as a reply to me.
Makes it sound like you're congratulating ME for the video when I had nothing to do with its creation 🙃
wow Matpat finds lore that doesn't burn absolutely every one of his brain cells!
Fick five frendy
@@DJILMarioBrosOfficialshut
@I_hatenegros1 what you only made one video that just a clip
@@DontReadMyProfilePicture.94just stop literally no one will read your name
@@I_hatenegros1explains why u have 7 subscribers
Going back to watch the Full Timeline I noticed something.
The Pig playing the Banjo has GREEN AND BLUE EYES! I think even on the same sides as the Tiger animatronic.
And MatPat always says Scott doesn’t do coincidences and he’s always careful about color.
So there must be some kind of connection to that Pig.
I love how Mat says he runs away after shaking your hand. It reminds me of those kids in elementary school who would go "My friend got a crush on you" then run off
Important detail someone pointed out. The Mimic's costume during the scooper ending looks like it was trying to *mimic* Gregory. Brown hair, blue shirt, bracelet on left hand to mimic the watch.
I've heard that before. It's quite a neat idea.
Oh you absolute genius
The fact that the editors really labled it the "MatPat Incident" makes me wanna cry tears of joy for Spigg
I was going to mention spiff if no one else did but it was only 11 comments down yay
omg i know i was looking for a spigg enjoyer comment about it!
Matpat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging...
okay but like when he said that the tunnels were sister location i slapped my keg and my jaw dropped. this lore is fitting together to well
Thank you, Matpat for everything.
Imagine one day, MatPat will do a theory on Glamrock Bonnie except it will be Markiplier’s theory to be more canon in the lore.
MatPat will go crazy if so 😂
@@LOGAN_FLOOR_CONTENTjokes on you bot, that is my native language
@@sulembape695 bot defeated!
It would be hilarious if they made Mark's Bonnie theory cannon. I mean *obviously* Monty was just trying to be helpful and he was the one who placed the wet floor signs around Bonnie so no one else would get hurt.
It’s such a relief to know that the Princess quest ending is most likely canon and that Burntrap/Glitchtrap’s relationship with Afton might be more complicated than initially thought.
Now what if there were 2 timelines one with aftons ending on with princess quest that would be my most huge relief yet as the afton ending was said to be canon before ruin
MatPat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging...
@@justaperson1692yeah that’s what is confusing, because why would Gregory make up a version of spring trap when nobody has ever seen spring trap, and the blob/enard/funtime Freddy. Like some parts have to be cannon, plus there is a charging pod where Afton was, same as the ending. It just doesn’t make sense unless that means ruins not cannon or something which is most likely not the case.
This would imply that Afton is still in Ultimate Custom Hell and that Burntrap is actually just the Mimic 'mimicking' Afton
@@uneducatedturtle1492maybe Vanessa, after being freed, told Gregory about what happened and what she was forced to do.
Thank you matpat for everything
Bro the vanny mask looks so uncomfortable 1:49
If the FNAF series ever comes to an end, I seriously hope Cawthon releases an entire book explaining every single mystery and lore snippet that has been created as he has released each game and book. I would love to know which theories Matpat and the gang were spot-on about and which were completely false.
AGREED
Yesss
Lol I wonder if Cawthon even knows it all at this point, he's probably relied on awesome theorist communities to fill in the gaps for him! Which would be kind of cool to learn about after the fact.
It's very interesting to see both Matpat and Fuhnaff realized that the first 3 books are very closely related to Fnaf Ruin and future games. Goes to show how important these books are.
Why are they completely disregarding Tales From The Pizzaplex then
@LOGAN_FLOOR_CONTENT we don't talk about those
@@nanuqo2006 Because only some parts are actually relevant to the major lore of the game, like for example The Mimic and GGY.
Yea maybe they talked together
@@nanuqo2006 They aren't disregarding them, Matpat brings it up anytime the series connects to the lore at hand, such as when he brought up the mimic story. However, not every tale connects back to the lore of the franchise because the books are still in their own universe, even if they have parallels to the games.
13:00 what if Freddy remembers glamrock bonnie
Man really said, “there were crows in the movie Dumbo so therefore the bird costume is definitely for Circus Baby’s.”
He could have left that piece of “evidence” out 😂
Matpat is honestly surprising in how he can make lore from this dlc that doesn’t destroy all the hard work he has put in on other theories
Ruin DLC is the goat, it really tied up some loose ends on some theories
@@LOGAN_FLOOR_CONTENT no
@@LOGAN_FLOOR_CONTENTYou cant order me
Loved the slow escalation of book lore in the games from “namedrop of William Afton in SL” to “Mimic showing up with zero buildup”
Yeah, pretty much.
I mean to be fair afton showed up a ton before the books were even out
William Afton was named droped in the silver eyes first before sister location 😐
@@sammyjaohnson5631book name drop and game name drop are not the same, they’re different canons.
@@sammyjaohnson5631 yeah, I’m saying that was the beginning of the integration of book lore into the games
If Freddy not seeing vanni was because he’s not on the network, does that not then infer that Gregory (who did see her) is? I.e. evidence of his being a robot?
5:04
Oh boy, only game theory could make a reference that bold
More evidence for the links between Ruin and SL is that in the Fredbear ending we hear Gregory saying “I found somewhere to hide” which I thought was way too similar to Baby talking about how they wanted to hide in Mike’s body, thus making me believe that it was the Mimic that gave that final Gregory voice line and Cassie got replaced Ennard style whilst she was hallucinating that final image for the ending.
Oh, and here's another thing; When Ennard replaces Michael in SL, he comes back, and I noticed something about the Brazil (Fredbear cutout) ending, when the mask is put on, the image slowly gets clearer, as if Cassie's consciousness is being uploaded to the VANNI network, meaning she could come back after being replaced by the mimic, Just like Mike comes back after being replaced
It’s kinda confirmed ig? Spoilers ahead for taps of the pizzaplex so skip:
But in the latest epilogue a girl gets crushed bones and all by the mimic while it enters the suit she’s hiding and it wears it. So that explains it especially since the voice line is the same one it used before especially with the hyper ventilating from Cassie and the name and reference.
I love how the editor put the princess quest ending up twice when showing all the endings
(Note) I haven’t watch the video yet, so I don’t really know if he already said this but my theory is that the Freddy that help does the original Game was the prototype I had the original Freddy glitched, so they went to fix him that’s why he didn’t attack because he’s not the original Freddy
Just want to say that, I'm amazed with how you make theories. I can't even imagine how the team must know ALL lines from FNAF to find all of this. Really mind blowing
Matpat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging...
because they don't...liek there's just straight WRONG info in this video 😭
@@sunnyd4zewhich info is wrong? If u don’t mind sharing
@@sunnyd4zewhich part is wrong?
Imagine Casey is the daughter of Michael
I've been rewatching all the old theories, and god dang, Mat calling the timeline complicated at FNAF 3!? Wild looking back after all this
Ikr
I like how at the end of this video mat said he would say something about Cassie's dad
One think I would like to point out is that in the story Cleithrophobia we see Grady a construction worker go down to a secret underground location about Ballora. I always thought this was weird but now it makes sense kinda. Matpat I think your right with this one. Also the Ballora animotronic is an AI since it can communicate with Grady (Not sure it only really said let me help you get out).
I literally cannot understand how matpat can come up with this stuff, it’s so insanely impressive
I mean, it’s not hard. Ruin is very explicit with its story
Alot of drugs, presumably, disguised as diet Coke
@@KryptoKn8Diet Coke itself might as well be a drug, that stuff is addictive if you like it 😭
Mat should do a game theory on the jumping Julian game.
Turns out he straight up steal a lot of other people's theories, not to say he doesn't make his own at times, but it's less impressive when you consider plagiarism
About Freddy, I think it's also important to mention how in the base game, when he's in Parts and Service, Vanessa threatens him not by saying that he'll be replaced, but by saying that they'll "slap his casing on a new endo", which implies they don't have the ability to replace him. Furthermore, in the van ending where he leaves with Gregory, Monty ends up replacing him and Mr. Hippo fills the empty spot in the band. While comedic, it still shows us that Fazbear Ent. just doesn't have another Glamrock Freddy readily available to replace him if he's irreparably damaged, because he is a prototype. He's most likely the only one.
In fact, I'm willing to bet that there's only one of each of the Glamrocks in existence. When Glamrock Bonnie disappears, they don't replace him with another Bonnie either, which shows they either don't have another, or making a new one isn't very feasible. Instead, he's replaced by Monty, and they don't even bother to rebrand the bowling alley.
The animatronics must gain sentience through self learning, but it is really hard for Fazbear to replicate for different endos. So when an animatronic dies and they can't copy him accurately, they just make a new character. Choosing an endo that they have trained, making him a skin that suits his character (angry Monty gets a Crocadile skin), and then wiping his memory of being an endo but leaving his character.
This is why Fazbear would love to have a mimic program!
I do have a question...
If Glamrock Freddy can't se Vanny at the beginning of Security Breach because of his "safe mode" and isn't capable of doing so until he gets Roxy's eyes, why is Gregory capable of seeing her from the start? Wouldn't it mean that Gregory is somehow connected with this AI?
Ruin's got me back into the FNAF lore stuff on a level Security Breach couldn't imagine. I'm impressed Steel Wool improved so much.
sameee I love this dlc so much
Matpat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging...
is it just me, or is it oddly nostalgic to hear phone guy's voice lines as evidence again?
Reminded me of sister location cuz of all the computer panels and stuff
when was that? i dont remember hearing phone guy this episode
@@ASlickNamedPimpbackit was the phone guy from 3 not 1 and 2
@@jeffo7799found it, 18:00
7:10 Two of those spots are taken by different shots from the Princess Quest Ending. You may want to check that.
17:25 Pretty sure that Tales is being much less subtle about how it connects to the games. Paying attention, it seems like it's just _in_ the games' timeline, just with a few communication or writing hiccups between Scholastic and Steel Wool, so assuming that Edwin is just an AU version of Henry is holding less and less water with each new book.
23:15 Elizabeth's always been associated with green, though; specifically, her green eyes, which replace Baby's original blue.
One extra detail I noticed that supports the headless Freddy being Gregory’s Freddy assertion is his hands. Only Monty is supposed to have those sharp, heavy claws. Hence, Freddy would only have them if that was Gregory’s Freddy equipped with Monty’s claws.
It’s so cool to see how far Matpat and his Team have come, that merch segment is honestly pretty cool
sure its cool but nobodys catching me wearing a shirt with a youtubers name on it
@@notawamen2311yeah.. same
@@notawamen2311straight up 😭
Exitly right
I love Matpat and his team, but... How is plastic merch, likely sewn in China, likely by children, "cool"?
The fact both Mat and John connected TTO to Ruin literally days apart makes me think they are going to do a genuine collab theory one day
Ikrr
Depends what Mat can offer John after ripping of his theory and shoe-horning it into this video. I can't be the only one who realize how rushed that part about the connection with the novels was? Mat is a fraud.
Don't read my name
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@@treali? Cave system with glowy stuff is a specific setting. Its not a stretch that both came up with that
13:19 my issue with this idea is that even if Freddy is separated from the AI network, that means that he should be able to see the world as it’s regular self. Since he isn’t a part of it, he should be able to see Vinny. If anything, Vinny should be the one unable to see Freddy
i mean modern fnaf lore isnt bad but nothing beats old fnaf lore. that was the best
I love how a singular character gave new meaning to basically every part of the lore
Which character
@@vengeance6833the mimic
One note: the Vanny mask you use isn't the one Vanessa wore in SB, but it is the exact one used in Help Wanted alongside the Glitched Bonnie Plush to talk to Glitchtrap
Could be along the line of changes like Roxy's endo. But even then, Ruin had a bunch of wires in the mask, and Dreadbear's was a more flesh red interior.
Not to mention it's called a "security mask." Which might mean the security guards wear those as well. It might be possible that the Fazbear company was in on Glitchtrap's plans.
@@w1ndgeneral226could also just be that the security and maintenance staff wore some other AR gear, more appropriately themed, and Vanny just implemented those into her own mask, given Helpy is the AI assistant in the mask, plastered all over the pizzaplex maintenance stuff and is the mascot for the save stations, the original mask could've been Helpy masks, would make sense for the kids too, they see a bunch of helpys go around fixing stuff.
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This actually felt like matpat was just on a roll with how everything just lines up perfectly. Major dubs as usually.
15:09 Pokemon...?
I want someone who's as committed to me as Matpat is to making fnaf content
real.
Don’t we all
honestly
Someone that hates you but is stuck repeatedly doing you to pay their bills?
@@LeonardGreenpaw i mean, this theory isn't even something the game theory team came up with. the first half (with the mimic's circus costumes and alternative branding) was discovered and fleshed out by ryetoast, and the second half (with the scooper and the silver eyes series/fnaf sl/help wanted 2 connection) was completely done by fuhnaff.
I find it very interesting that John Fuhnaff and Matpat came up with such similar theories seemingly separately
was looking for this
Mat usually just echoes what the theories are on the fnaf sub, but he also usually credits ppl. So im not sure if they both thought of it separately on their own or if they theorized together
I think ryetoast also had something similar
@@merry_whateverI’m guessing it was just a big coincidence or maybe they worked together behind the scenes as it does not take just a couple days to make a full game theory and johns video was only released a couple days ago
Well go figure, people come up with the same stuff if they have the same information.... It happens, you do not want to know how often I came up with a revolutionary book idea only to later find out, that the concept already existed and I am now afraid to get hunted by copyright should I write them..... One example I had monster hunting witches that gainers power through high risk herb and monster concoctions that either killed or forced mutation and either way rendered them infertile. They where protectors but dispised for humans fear what they do not understand and they tended to have inhuman attributes like unnatural hair and eye colors....... Their school was not high up in the mountains but hidden like avalon on an island in a lake behind a veil...... But otherwise it sounds hell like the witcher... Which I did not know when I was 14 and came up with this idea, but sure as hell already existed.
And a more commen theory, everyone and their blind cat came up with r+l=j in asoiaf
I will say, the line about having worked there in the trailer could be Cassie as Helpy treated her like an employee, so she’s in the system
13:15 that doesn't make sense. You said the endos can't see Cassie while wearing a mask because they are part of the AI system and then you say that Freddy finally being part of it makes him able to see Vanny?
It doesn't make sense because he's obviously wrong.
i think he said that endos see us but they just think we're no one they should chase while freddy just couldn't see her
I'm going to be completely honest. I come to these partly for the soap opera that is Five Nights lore, but mostly for Mattpat's energy while he delivers it.
Same here.
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I do the same thing, but then I just find myself getting angry that the lore makes no sense
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Seeing matpat go from finishing the timeline to going insane having to update it brings me great joy 😭
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He’s joined William in purgatory
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Technically Henry already did create Baby, in the way that he was the one in the Silver eyes trilogy to create the adult version of Charly, which was turned into Baby by William.
I find it a bit weird that we have 2 Henries from the book series that somehow explain Baby in very different ways...
I would love to get a Henry comparison between Silver Eyes and Tales from the Pizzaplex's Edwin.
If Edwin truly is a standin for Henry in the books... why not use the already established Henry from the Silver Eyes instead of making a similar parallel character with a different name.
Because the franchise is monkeys with typewriters
This makes me think that scott hired a dedicated fan and theorist to tie up his own franchise
Watch matpat make 50 more episodes based on a dlc that lasts around 2 hours to beat
my content is better
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The usage of the Vanny masks reminds me of a certain Freddy mask back in Fnaf 2. The way the animatronics are unable to recognize you with it on is way too similar, only without the augmented reality part.
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Ok you’ve probably gotten this question a million times by now but if the comics are just Gregory using his imagination for the other endings than how does he know about the blob and burn trap.
I love that the endings in ruin are called neutral, scooper, and Brazil.
I love how Ruin makes use of camera, flashlight, and mask. Classic FNAF mechanics but now in 3D and over the top. Way better integrated than in the main Security Breach.
In the cameras you can use sound to lure them away... so the first 3 games
Honestly, Baby being around or relevant even now makes sense to me. Reason being, Baby mentioning that we are in a Springlock suit on Night 4 felt so off. We never see what the suit looks like. But it implies that the Funtime Animatronics still had unanswered questions surrounding them. It just felt like such an odd thing to leave open ended
Dont we see ourselves inside the speinglock suit in vr or smth?
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@@danyTheGamerKillerthat was Freddy if you’re talking about the end of the game
@@grizzlygamingzz8145 in fnaf help wanted we are in a sister location springlock suit(if I remember correctly.)
@@danyTheGamerKiller wait before I sound dumb what part of the game?
Matt I have a theory for you. The new ending to security breach where you go down to burntrap and play the mini game showing the mimic is the true ending but burntrap is the mimic and Afton controls it (purple eyes). After Gregory sees the mimic he has to run and leave the controlled Freddy’s body behind but saving his head. (Why Freddy attacks us). The bunny entity is also Afton and with Roxy, she escaped the mimics control.
Mattpat please respond
Weird theory but tbh I feel like the disco robot had a lot of lore itself. It said that there was a mom with a son who happen to find a monster and hid it to keep her son safe, I initially thought it was the dad but now that I know a bit more about mimic I’m starting to think, afton either brought the program/robot home and disappeared or it could also tie in to the idea of how the spaghetti robot found it’s way back to Micheal in the end
With reference to the daycare attendant and the 'why is he here' moment, I can say with certainty that he is here exclusively to make me happy. That is all and case closed, he is doing amazing 😂
I KNOWW it's so true like the daycare attendant is one of my new FAV animatronics ever since security breach first came out and hearing MatPat say 'daycare attendant' in the video honestly made my heart skip a beat from excitement for the return of the character
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for fanservice AND HE HELLA SERVED like the king he is🔥🔥
This’ll likely be buried, but…I learned this week that tigers in the wild can MIMIC prey to lure them in. I think this is why Tiger Rock is a form of the Mimic, intentional choice by design.
That's really cool, it makes it make more sense.
If the princess quest ending is the cannon ending, it why does the burn trap room have a charging station? If William Afton was never there, why is the charger there? Please answer MatPat, I must know! :)
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And he's not the only one" 👁
That fact that MattPatt and John from Fuhnaff have curated and crafted such similar theories on their own excited me for the final end game. It’s so cool seeing Fuhnaff’s journey, and him rising the ranks as one of the best FNAF theory crafters out there, rivaling ol Matty Patty. You gotta love the come up
There is a difference between being the best and being popular
@@JFTArchivedamn man no need to hate
@@qu1ckl1zard73 I ain't hatin' but saying he's one of the "best" FNAF theorists is subjective
"the best" only applies to matpat btw
@@orewaren8549 that's even more subjective. He's popular theorist doesn't make him the best either. Not bad by any means but he's not the best.
Man, I hope this all wraps itself up nicely soon. It's all starting to finally make sense and I don't need another twist.
That`s what we`re alll hoping, I mean hey they confirmed the Mimic
Might as well
keep hoping, in fnaf 27 we will learn that Gregory is actually William's brother.
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Hear me out, the scooper used in Ruin is the same one used in Sister Location. Sister Location is *under* the Pizzeria Simulator Location, which is under the pizzaplex.
Not that impossible considering SL is already underground.
I’ve noticed something pretty much overlooked throughout the whole thing, the description for the Vanny Mask says “- by some Faz- Technician” which possibly implies that Vanessa had access to the AI by the faz wrench since she was a former employee. Therefore, the mask.
That can be ignored though as that's just Cassie assuming the mask belongs to technicians.
But it couldn't since her father is a technician and she would've recognized the mask, but she didn't. Even when she saw Vanny wearing a similar mask (the Vanny mask) she is surprised by seeing another person wearing a similar mask to the one she currently has.
And Vanessa was a security guard, not a technician so she would have no need to carry around a Fazwrench. Though to be fair, Vanny might have.
The one thing I’m most excited for with the set is the fact there are pockets on the leggings. You almost never see pockets on any women’s clothing! *Thank you!!*
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It’s pretty amazing how quick they get these theories out with so much polish.
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I wouldn't say that. He didn't say anything in Polish
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A personal theory I have is that Cassie has been trapped in the VANNI network from the moment she put her mask on. The books have this common storyline where once the main character gets into the AR story, there’s no going out. They may think they left the system, but they’re actually still inside. That would explain why Helpi is able to talk to Cassie even when she’s not wearing the mask.
19:05 hey I remember watching a minecraft roleplay thing from this samgladiator dude a couple years back.
I feel like I remember that the pizza place was connected to a special cave in the minecraft world they built which was weird cause its probs coincidence
Idk they had like the custom built restaurant connected to the original layout later on and the cave as well as generators.
The puppet keeps them safe
I mean, anything set in Minecraft is going to gravitate toward caves
@@quantumblauthor7300 interestingly enough it actually gravitated towards your mother
Do you think that maybe the dialogue hidden in the SB game files of Freddy stating, “I hear what some guests say about me. Bad things happened in the past. But that was not me.” “Those were other models- Flawed. I would never hurt anyone. You know that, right?” , might have some relation to the prototype from Ruin possibly being different from the Freddy we see in SB?
I think that was more likely he can't remember what he did while under Vanny's control
That's referring to the past iterations of Freddy, obviously.
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