Eggstra Work SUCKS!
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
- In today's video, we'll go over why Eggstra Work isn't... good. Hopefully this video won't be too inaccurate and/or controversial, (it probably will be.) Anyways enjoy the video!
Full 283 egg run:
• [283 eggs] Jammin' Sal...
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:54 - Factor 1
2:14 - Factor 2
3:16 - Factor 3
4:03 - Factor 4
5:11 - Outro
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#splatoon #splatoon3 #salmonrun #eggstrawork - Ігри
The most nothing burger of a mode I've ever experienced in a video game. Even Nintendo knows this mode has next to no worth with how little they care about it. The fact we can still play this mode longer then all six challenges slots combined is still so insane to me. Great video tho.
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The rewards feel like Mr Grizz just dug stuff out of his trash and said “have fun”
Also I completely forgot this was even an event thanks to how little they advertise it
I really like the idea of set waves. That way you can grind with a set team for a perfect run. The main problems I see are the first wave being an autoscroller that offers nothing after completing it once and the lack of a practice mode. To "practice" wave 5 at 300% you have to play for like 10 min and make no mistakes which makes it terrible to practice. It is designed to be niche and only enjoyed by a few which I don't mind but it happens way to infrequent so that even if you enjoy the grind for a perfect run you barely get any chances to play.
I came up with two ideas to make eggstra work good.
1. Give a unique condition for each eggstra event work. Some might be buffs, like better firerate, faster mobility, etc. Others might be nerfs, like the side order danger floor things
2. Make it happen way more often. There is no way an event that is barely more unique than a challenge happens as much as a big run.
- On top of this, they could rework both challenge schedules and eggstra work to happen on most weekends, with them one weekend having a challenge, and the next havning eggstra work or something.
Just some ideas to make it better.
One thing to mention, is that playing eggstra work solo is not a good experience either.
When you play with friends, you can pick your weapon, but for solo, you get a random weapon. So if you aren't good with hydra (or one of the randoms that joins you isn't good at hydra but gets it), well good luck. Played for an hour in solo, never cleared wave 5... One can only carry so far
I kept getting Sloshing machine even though I tried to select Jr. in the lobby 😂🔫
This mode is so forgettable unironically. Also really good at editing.
I don't even think Salmon Run is a great fit philosophically for static enemy spawns. There are folks that do like to optimize and see how high they can score attack. The mode definitely caters to an organized player base who actively teams up.
But I would argue one of the appeals of Salmon Run for many people is the random nature of it, where there is always a slightly different scenario to tackle. So Eggstra Work just becomes a boring Score Attack slog that isn't worth grinding out. Why learn the rotation when I have no idea if my random teammates have learned it?
At least in Big Run, you get the novelty of randomness, new maps, and the ability to grind scales. I am still at the mercy of my freelance teammates but there is actually matchmaking for hazard level. It is so much better designed for Salmon Run.
I agree with you on this one tbh. This is probably the worst event in the Splatoon 3 ever. All waves, especially 1st wave and 2nd wave are very predictable and getting really boring thou. In this event I even got exactly 236 in just six games, especially i lost 4 games in the row during my solo freelance. Also I agree with you that not many people will have free time to do weekends in this event especially people are working on the weekends. Even Chewoomy told me that Chewoomy had played even less time in a big run even thou I had exactly the same high score as Chewoomy. Ps this is the first time i get to fully seen your video, and also 2 of your people friends have bump into me in salmon run. Great video.😀😀😀👏👏👏
Even though I got my first top 5%, I agree with you because doing the same thing over and over again just makes me feel bored. I kept going anyways because I wasn't sure if I had gold but I did get 244 eggs.
There’s no reason this mode couldn’t have been the leagues of salmon run-happens all the time, changes once every 2 days or so like regular freelance, happens in addition to regular freelance all the time, has its own public online leaderboards, etc. It’s not significant enough to only happen once a season. It’s dumb.
I wouldn't call eggstrawork offensively terrible. It's not great but it's a fun little something to hone in my skills and coordination.
But in all seriousness, I think splatoon 3 has too many limited time events. Should've just stayed at Splatfest and big run.
Challenges should be full 24 hours, instead of discrete 2 hour blocks. I think the best approach is to have 2 challenge modes available during the weekend when there's no splatfest nor big run event occurring.
But that's a topic for another day, eggstra work really isn't that awful, really the only disappointment I have with eggstra work (which is more of an issue I have with big run) is the lack of super sea snails as rewards.
I definitly know people who like extrawork bcs they like to grind the same rotation over and over to get the perfect score, for me its a little fun for like the first 5 hours or so then i get bored. the reason why i like salmon run is everyt game is different with different spawns different events and different strategies
but yeah extrawork is pretty underwhelming for being so rare, to me it seems like the challenge equivalent to salmon run, and if thats the case then they should make extra work more fun like challenges One extra challenge could be getting the same sinario over and over and getting a reward for it, but there should also be ones like, everyone gets the same weapon, or everyone picks a weapon from a certain class, or infinite salmon run waves, or like only night waves. thats one way to fix it
another way they could fix it is just have extra work happen more often, or maybe even just all the time and the sticker reward goes to the teams whos top 5% in any of the extra work rotations, just like regular salmon run have back to back new rotations, instead of just one rotation u grind, there could be any of the rotations for that season and its up to u to find the best sincario and grind that
You know, adding at least one random weapon to eggstra work comp would make the repetitiveness of it all a little more bearable. It might defeat the purpose of “everything is the same every time” but it would make score results change drastically, and it’s more fun for the group.
Eggstra Work feels like a temporary training grounds for people who want to get better at Salmon, figure out how it works and train on different ways to help your team as the waves get harder, as the waves are scripted. However I could have sworn we could do practice shifts anyway. The reward thing is not worth it though…
They do give extra bonuses
I know what's worse being about to kill a king salmonid but you get a connection error
5:30 ...yeah, kinda... or not really. eggstrawork is by far my most favourite event in all splatoon. its so incredibly fun to strategize with your teammates to optimize a certain seed. I love the thinking it requires and the understanding of the game that you gain from it. i'm literally so in love with this mode.
but yeah, I'm saying this as someone who played this mode serious with organized and prepared teams which like less than 1% of the playerbase does - I would guess. on the first eggstrawork I went with pick-up teams and yeah it does kinda suck that way.
so yeah, objectivley eggstrawork work sucks... but for me its just
I would probably be more upset with eggtra work if challenges didn't exist, lol. Like as it is, everything about the mode is just inoffensive to me: the lack of any flair goes perfectly with the simple and almost speedrun-esque repetition, and it's the one mode I'm okay with being so limited since I'm not missing out on much if I don't play. It could be a lot more, but it's simultaneously way more than I ever expected them to do with salmon run in this game (I figured we were getting big run and nothing else, and if they were going to do more interesting stuff with salmon run I'd rather they spice up big run further anyway)
Now challenges on the other hand actively frustrates me, because it's like if they fixed the repetitive issue of eggtra work but made the availability even worse somehow. Genuinely I've had more challenges where I forgot and got annoyed by the fact that I missed it than I have challenges where I actually got to play them and had fun. At this point even when I can play I often don't, cause trying to grind a whole 2 hours of a challenge because they only come up once in a blue moon sucks. Either you play at whatever arbitrary time the game decides to run a challenge whether you feel like it or not, or you never play them at all and they might as well not even be in the game.
It is by far the most fun i have playing splatoon 3...
I think the only valid criticism here is the lack of good rewards and how infrequent the event is.
The fun of the mode itself is kinda like how people find speedrunning fun. Yes you play the same thing over and over, but you start optimizing and getting higher and more insane scores.
It's not for everyone of course, so I'm not gonna say you NEED to find it fun, but I don't think it's a garbage mode at all.
It just suffers from being incredibly underused...
imo it could have been really cool if it was weekly or something.
I agree
Eggstra Work in the next game should be converted to a "Boss Rush" where each wave is a different King Salmonid. Make it so you can get a crap ton of scales, but if you fail any of the three King waves, you lose all your scales you earned in that run. Would make it a lot more interesting and give it a reason to be limited to a weekend. I say next game just because I'm assuming we'd start with the four king salmonid we'll have by the end of S3 whenever S4 comes around.
The one that just ended was the first one I've gotten to play and I kind of liked it, but I don't disagree with anything you said here. I only found it worth it because of the two extra superbonuses, I didn't even know I would get a badge and sticker for it lol
I like eggstra work but also you get more bonuses for playing it as well
I still think eggstra work is fun (I am a big salmon run fan in general), but it definitely has some major problems. Beyond what you touched on here, one of the most egregious issues is the fact that it's a competitive reward system for a primarily cooperative game mode. The reward you receive is based on your score as a percentile rank compared to other players. By design, 95% of people will not be able to get the top reward. Half of the people who participate will not receive any award at all. This does nothing to encourage participation from more casual salmon run players or anyone who primarily plays other modes. It would have made much more sense to have your reward be determined by your contribution toward a community goal. As is, this special event really only attracts the overfishing crowd, and with dwindling player base, it gets harder each time to reach those percentile goals when the only players remaining are the hard-core salmon run players. This last run had a much higher score requirement compared to any of the previous events because of low participation.
For reference Hazmy also has a good video on this same topic that was made after a previous eggstra work event.
Slight correction: I said half of players get no reward. Bottom 50% still get stickers for participation. That's not enough to get the non-salmon run crowd interested in participating, though.
If you get an early wave where key moments at maximizing eggs are missed... you might as well just throw and start over. Something that doesn't feel great in freelance.
I feel like Eggstra Work might be more fun if they let us bring our own weapons. Like seriously, why do they insist on sticking us with garbage like the Hydra Splatling or the S-BLAST?
Eggstra Work and Challenges have the same stupidly simple solution: Just make them permanent modes that also follow normal 2-ish day SR rotations. Every SR Rotation, the Eggstra Work seed and map would change, and for Challenges, the challenge itself would change every 2 days, but the map and mode would change every regular rotation, to keep things fresh and interesting.
they should've made this salmon run challenge mode where you get constant fog waves or you get only chargers but you can also get the grizzco charger
Ill be real, i didnt even know where this mode even came from- just saw folks posting high scores and when "neat! ... anyways"
Its.. i dont have the words to describe how just *bad* they executed this mode 😭
I like the concept itself, but when it got announced, I originally thought it would be something like a fun challenge of the week/month, or something like that, not somthing happening this rarely.
The first wave is also pretty anoying, since there is no way to speed it up.
Maybe starting a bit higher in the hazard level and then having -/+/stay changes to the hazard level instead could be better, to keep the first wave from being to boring.
The rewards would not be to bad, if it where something like a weekly challenge, like get a sticker of the season and maybe some tokens in the end.
For a big seasonal event on the other side, yeah, it should have more capsules and maybe also stuff like some tokens/scales for playing x rounds a day, like for challenges.
Scales would even make sense, since you have no way to encounter a boss, so getting some scales after x rounds a day would be a nice alternative.
I like it not for the set waves not for the set weapons but because there's no set egg goal like in big run now and its fun to grind for eggs
I don’t enjoy it because I can’t play with a actual team, and let me tell you that IT SUCKS, not having an actual team makes this event basically impossible to get gold if your someone like me
I got the bronze badge from one of the Eggstra Work. And I keep getting crushed by wave 3 lots of times
Honestly, im a completionist so i just play one game of eggstra work and boom im taking my leave n go, besides the participation stickers look better imo
Yeah, it is absolutely terrible, and so damn boring to play over and over. I feel like the remedy for this is to just make it a part of private battles and instead of having it available for 1 weekend a season, let people play that one event whenever they can get a team together during the season. Let people play a few and come back later, and then at the end of the season announce the winners. This way the people who really want to perfect a run, have the space to dedicate time when it suits them and really max it out if that motivates them, and for anyone else it's there if you feel like playing SR but marooners bay is in rotation.
But also dear god let us just start on wave 2 or 100% hazard. And don't bring tornado back again for it, that wave is boring even without it being guaranteed.
- Also have a guaranteed King if you complete wave 5, but it only gives like half the scales. So you need to play 10 waves to get the usual payout - which is akin to over 3 normal games so not unreasonable to have a king that soon.
I liked it.
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