Yeah its lowkey annoying that she's upset with her father for not loving an abusive woman like stella UNTIL you consider that Stolas never told her about it. All she's ever seen was them fighting and just assumed she was the problem or that her had something good and decided to throw it all away. But maybe this will give Stolas a wake up call that he can't just 'runaway' with Blitz and have a perfect life. Not without considering his daughter and making sure he doesn't neglect her.
Stella being abusive is more fandom than canon. Stolas certainly doesn't act abused. He isn't afraid of Stella in the slightest and is more than capable of holding his own in their arguments and giving back as good as she gives. We see arguments, sure, but Stolas did just publicly cheat on Stella, so some screaming fights are a normal reaction. And it's pretty normal in stories for the wronged spouse to order a hit on the cheating spouse, especially if they're about to lose everything while the cheater moves on with their affair partner. We don't know, at this point, whether Stella and Stolas were just low-key unhappy and snippy back and forth, or if it was more than that and there was actual abuse. I do feel that the writer's have left their options open so they can decide either way in the future. We don't know how Stella is as a mother (abusive spouses are not default abusive parents, so she might be a great mom. We do see her having family dinner with Stolas and Octavia, even when she hates Stolas enough to order a hit) but we DO know that Stolas is not as great of a dad as he thinks he is, since he knows very little about his daughter, and often ignores or neglects her, until doing the Disney Dad type thing in random bursts, and also infantilizes her, carrying her around like a small child, despite her being 17, and treating her like she's still 5. We do know that Octavia has been choosing to stay with Stella during most of the divorce process, and we haven't seen Stolas protest or insist on shared custody. This aside, Octavia appears to be very aware of her parents' negative relationship. Them fighting appears normal to her. She is not stressed, worried, or afraid of it. She has adaptive strategies to ignore both of them, like her headphones.
@@PeachWookiee There are stereotypical markers and behaviors, none of which he shows other than depression. And one offs do not equal abuse. Behaviors have to be recurring and pernicious to qualify. Anyways, he doesn't try to appease her moods, or avoid her. He is not afraid of her. He doesn't try to hide things that will make her upset, nor go out of his way to provoke her. He is not cowed in her presence. He didn't flinch when he she tried to hit him, and he is 100% certain in his ability to stop her hand. He is very able to get right in her face and yell back at her. Stolas doesn't keep going back (usually takes 7+ times to leave an abuser, he initiates divorce immediately and doesn't look back) She might throw the butler, but Stolas has squeezed the bejeezus out of the guy and waved him around without care himself. It feels like they're in more of a low key crappy situation neither enjoys than Stolas is a poor little abuse victim.
It's the leaked storyboards. The dialogue in this is extremely similar to octavias lines in the s2 trailer, and these animations came out months before that trailer
@@Sin_ofGreed_I was banned from the Helluva subreddit just because I talked about this (not even posted the video or a screenshot about it, just saying I watched it and asking if it was true).
Stolas sheltered Octavia too much. He at the very least needed to explain to her why things are complicated for him. For one thing, it's not just Stella that was the problem but the whole entire thing of being a Goetia is a problem. Think: his father was willfully neglectful and he was forced into a marriage with Stella. Stolas is probably the only Goetia that bothered trying to give their own child a relatively normal childhood. But since the beginning, he has been trying to figure out his own trauma with the whole situation and in the process, he is not communicating with his daughter properly about what he's going through. Instead, it comes off as him leaving her and their 'perfect family' for someone else. And, in a way, he is. He isn't helping her work through this change in their lives. I'm not saying he should offload on his daughter but she is owed an explanation. If she is instead going to take his position and force him into the streets, she is going to find out the hard way exactly what her father went through and what he had been trying to protect her from. My guess is that she's going to realize this when she is put into an arranged marriage herself and, hopefully, Stolas finds a way to save her from that. Since she's canonically ace, there is no way in hell she will have a happy marriage with someone she does not like. She is going to point out Stolas' major flaw: his inability to communicate exactly what is wrong until it's far far too late. However, my guess is that Andrealphus' plan was this: get Via to come to their 'side' and turn her against Stolas. Get Stryker to kill Stolas. And then profit because Via will see them as her only family that 'cared'.
@@rigboy1234 But this is Stella and Andrealphas we're talking about here. Who knows what kind of twisted, evil things they might try to coerce Via into doing
@@rigboy1234 I understand all that I’m kinda going through the same thing right now. Expect in my case it’s my brother who’s gonna get married soon. He doesn’t make the time for anything but work and his fiancee. I was going to leave him first before he left me but now I know that’s not gonna fix anything
If this are real storyboards and Viv didn’t change it for her yaoi romance then good for Via I want to see her relationship with Stella more than the same plot she was used in with Stolas to make him more of a victim
Sorry for that comment, for context, I have ADHD and a part of that is rejection sensitive dysphoria People slandering Stolas (my favourite) triggers that because I feel rejected in a way. I know it's childish but I don't think you guys know what "bad" parents are. If he's a bad dad then so is my dad and lemme tell ya my dad is the best. Stolas is trying okay? Plus how are y'all judging him for something that hasn't even come out yet?
Dude becareful, theres a whole thing going on that someone leaked Hazbin Hotel season two, legitmately leaked, and Vivizie is not doing okay because of it.
@@claudiosanchez3361 what makes you think that? There’s snow and ice everywhere. Unless, do you think it’s the end of the episode mastermind? Cause that makes sense
@@carolinebergin4633 because I dont go well with cliffhangers, and also a christmas special episode cannot emd like this as I mentioned before, I just hope that it is not season 2 finale because it will make me want to know what happens next as it gives me a psychological and emotional doubt! Therefore, this is a sort of plan made by Andrealphus.
@@claudiosanchez3361 yeah I’d hate for season 2 to end like that. It made my heart race and ache all at once. I think a saw a few clips of mastermind myself though
This came two years ago, and now with the trailer it's very curious the similarities, for example: Stolas outfit, the dialogue of Octavia are the same in this and in the trailer. I think this was the first idea for the new episode, obviously and probably is gonna be changes when the episode came out. (Sorry if my english is bad, it's not my first languange).
Two episodes one of which Stolas didnt do anything except be busy in the phone and forget something from over a decade ago and the other episode was over a season ago before his character development? I don't think that can tell you what horrible fathers are
@@Maggot-t7c His actions has been going on through the entire show, its a pattern. Also Stolas being busy on the phone means he cares more about fighting with Stella then actually taking care of his daughter?
He did lie, about his marriage and his wife. All to protect her but Via took it coldly. I know because I’ve been through something like this before with my father and older brother. They sometimes do cruel things like lying to me just to keep me safe.
First off the thumbnail is clickbait Second if this is real they probably won't use it now since it was leaked. And depending how old it is Shame on you for clickbaiting
Good for Octavia. Stolas was a shit father during Octavia’s tumultuous teenage years, regardless of his intentions. She’s finally choosing herself over loyalty to her father who has consistently made her his second priority. Hopefully this will be Stolas’s wake up call.
Ah yes. Because all those previous 16 years of Stolas' parenting don't mean anything. See it from the other side, Stolas is finally starting to choose for himself instead of living to please others all his life. Octavia needs to wake up too. But I'm afraid she won't realize what she had until it's gone.
@@Goikuchanstolas made comments about their bodies in a sexual way when she was 17. That is not okay. He was also very sexual to blitz on a day that was meant to be about via and stolas, making her extremely uncomfortable. Even when he’s on the phone in front of her he’s super inappropriate, stolas is an awful AWFUL dad.
@@Maggot-t7c yo forgive me if I’m wrong, but from my memory I remember I line when stolas was talking to via and he was like “people only want our bodies” or smth. It just felt so icky that he told his 17 yr old daughter that. He’s still a shit father, because he IS very sexual in front of her.
I understand what you mean but these videos are gotten here on UA-cam. I'm not actually taking from Viv documents. The last leak I used was posted about 6 months ago and has been viewed by thousands. So I just made my spin on it. But don't worry, these are the only videos available. Soon ill switch to reviews as usual. Hope I didn't spoil too much. 😅
@@spinel1008 I had a feeling this gonna happen honestly. I have a theory about what’s going on in Sinsmas but I’m probably wrong almost all my theories have been wrong
“the cold never bothered me anyway” ahh scene
NAH💀💀
OMG LMAO
YOU DID NOT
Hyehyehye
LMAOOOOOO I WAS GONNA SAY THAT 😭😭😭
I really liked the thumbnail from this video, I hope that happens in Sinsmas
The next one Ghostfuckers, right? Then Sinsmas is after that?
Via will find out what her mother is… and understand her father better…
Yeah its lowkey annoying that she's upset with her father for not loving an abusive woman like stella UNTIL you consider that Stolas never told her about it. All she's ever seen was them fighting and just assumed she was the problem or that her had something good and decided to throw it all away. But maybe this will give Stolas a wake up call that he can't just 'runaway' with Blitz and have a perfect life. Not without considering his daughter and making sure he doesn't neglect her.
Stolas shielding Via may have backfired. But I understand why he tried to protect her.
Stella being abusive is more fandom than canon. Stolas certainly doesn't act abused. He isn't afraid of Stella in the slightest and is more than capable of holding his own in their arguments and giving back as good as she gives.
We see arguments, sure, but Stolas did just publicly cheat on Stella, so some screaming fights are a normal reaction. And it's pretty normal in stories for the wronged spouse to order a hit on the cheating spouse, especially if they're about to lose everything while the cheater moves on with their affair partner.
We don't know, at this point, whether Stella and Stolas were just low-key unhappy and snippy back and forth, or if it was more than that and there was actual abuse. I do feel that the writer's have left their options open so they can decide either way in the future.
We don't know how Stella is as a mother (abusive spouses are not default abusive parents, so she might be a great mom. We do see her having family dinner with Stolas and Octavia, even when she hates Stolas enough to order a hit) but we DO know that Stolas is not as great of a dad as he thinks he is, since he knows very little about his daughter, and often ignores or neglects her, until doing the Disney Dad type thing in random bursts, and also infantilizes her, carrying her around like a small child, despite her being 17, and treating her like she's still 5. We do know that Octavia has been choosing to stay with Stella during most of the divorce process, and we haven't seen Stolas protest or insist on shared custody.
This aside, Octavia appears to be very aware of her parents' negative relationship. Them fighting appears normal to her. She is not stressed, worried, or afraid of it. She has adaptive strategies to ignore both of them, like her headphones.
Stella raised a hand to him, threw things at him… and “he didn’t act abused”? There is no one way for an abused person to act! Good grief…
@@PeachWookiee There are stereotypical markers and behaviors, none of which he shows other than depression. And one offs do not equal abuse. Behaviors have to be recurring and pernicious to qualify. Anyways, he doesn't try to appease her moods, or avoid her. He is not afraid of her. He doesn't try to hide things that will make her upset, nor go out of his way to provoke her. He is not cowed in her presence. He didn't flinch when he she tried to hit him, and he is 100% certain in his ability to stop her hand. He is very able to get right in her face and yell back at her. Stolas doesn't keep going back (usually takes 7+ times to leave an abuser, he initiates divorce immediately and doesn't look back) She might throw the butler, but Stolas has squeezed the bejeezus out of the guy and waved him around without care himself. It feels like they're in more of a low key crappy situation neither enjoys than Stolas is a poor little abuse victim.
I just saw someone stub all their toes at once yet this is still more painful
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@@MOVIESwithERA Let her go Stolas, give her some space...
Its fan animation , its not original
If it's not a fan animation, then it's really not good that he's showing it.
It's the leaked storyboards. The dialogue in this is extremely similar to octavias lines in the s2 trailer, and these animations came out months before that trailer
It's true
@@Sin_ofGreed_I was banned from the Helluva subreddit just because I talked about this (not even posted the video or a screenshot about it, just saying I watched it and asking if it was true).
Lol no it's not a fan animation, it is a original scene.
@@FrancescaAkira89 It's against the rules on it to spread leaks.
0:32 STOP THE WAY THEY LOOK AT EACH OTHER
No! This can't be what happens with Octavia and Stolas's relationship!!! 😰💔
Viv said there will be four seasons.
This is fake
@@penguin9000 I know, but I hope nothing like this happens to Stolas and Octavia! 😢
@@penguin9000 No, come on, I never would have thought that. (I'm in sarcasm mode, if you didn't get it)
A price to restore and we will sorrow.
Stolas sheltered Octavia too much. He at the very least needed to explain to her why things are complicated for him. For one thing, it's not just Stella that was the problem but the whole entire thing of being a Goetia is a problem. Think: his father was willfully neglectful and he was forced into a marriage with Stella. Stolas is probably the only Goetia that bothered trying to give their own child a relatively normal childhood. But since the beginning, he has been trying to figure out his own trauma with the whole situation and in the process, he is not communicating with his daughter properly about what he's going through. Instead, it comes off as him leaving her and their 'perfect family' for someone else. And, in a way, he is. He isn't helping her work through this change in their lives. I'm not saying he should offload on his daughter but she is owed an explanation. If she is instead going to take his position and force him into the streets, she is going to find out the hard way exactly what her father went through and what he had been trying to protect her from. My guess is that she's going to realize this when she is put into an arranged marriage herself and, hopefully, Stolas finds a way to save her from that. Since she's canonically ace, there is no way in hell she will have a happy marriage with someone she does not like. She is going to point out Stolas' major flaw: his inability to communicate exactly what is wrong until it's far far too late. However, my guess is that Andrealphus' plan was this: get Via to come to their 'side' and turn her against Stolas. Get Stryker to kill Stolas. And then profit because Via will see them as her only family that 'cared'.
Oh Stolas this hurts me more than it hurts you.😢
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NO!
VIA...don't give up on your father
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I’m actually jealous of her. She’s still has her father trying to reach out for her mines gone
Eh, her dad ain't trying to change and cares more about Blitz than about his own daughter. She has right to give up on him.
@@rigboy1234 But this is Stella and Andrealphas we're talking about here.
Who knows what kind of twisted, evil things they might try to coerce Via into doing
@@rigboy1234 I understand all that I’m kinda going through the same thing right now. Expect in my case it’s my brother who’s gonna get married soon. He doesn’t make the time for anything but work and his fiancee. I was going to leave him first before he left me but now I know that’s not gonna fix anything
When I saw this video's notification I thought it was the new episode I was about to scream in a fricking library
I have a feeling Stella and her brother manipulated Octavia against her own father. So that she would be on their side.
If this are real storyboards and Viv didn’t change it for her yaoi romance then good for Via I want to see her relationship with Stella more than the same plot she was used in with Stolas to make him more of a victim
THE AI VOICE I CANT
easy; to save one octavia, you must send in one loona. loona + octavia = happy birb.
.... I got so excited (lovely animation tho)
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@@MOVIESwithERA alrighty I will!
I can’t blame her, I just wish she eventually sees his point of view.
I knew she’d find out I actually understand Vias feelings about all this in my own way. Wanting to leave and why
Find out what?
@@Demaad that Stolas and Stella were forced into this marriage Stolas never did love Stella
Cause a christmas special episode cannot end up like this!
I just hope this isn’t the end of the episode
If this actually happens I would be so mad 😢
And we were all sat here thinking Stolas can get around that
the AI voices have me weakkkk
Yeah! Octavia, dont give up on your father!!
So Via is now Cassandra from Tangled lol
🤣
I could also imagine stolas is Harry Potter and andrealphus is lord Voldemort.
If you look you’ll realize this is Octavia going to Adrealpheus’s castle (I don’t know how to spell my English is back)
WHOOOO!
YOU SHOW HIM VIA!!!!!!
He lowkey deserved that I’m so sorry LOL
K bro, these thumbnails...
CAN YOU NOT????
Broskis has 5 FINGERS? 😨😨
これが本当でも偽物でも公式への妨害には変わりません。
どうしてこんなことをするのでしょうか。スピンドルホースのスタッフ達が頑張って作品を仕上げている裏で、これは壮絶な裏切りともいえます…。
Octavia will always be first person in Stola’s heart
I FREAKED OUT
"no via please😟 please😀"
😂😂😂
nah cuz its the fact that this prolly done fooled everybody
1:31 it’s such a Maggie and Vox moment 1:31
Why does Octavia sound like cyn from murder drones 😭
Dream sequence?
I'm looking through some of these Gosh awful comments to expose myself to things that trigger my RSD
It's not working uh
Sorry for that comment, for context, I have ADHD and a part of that is rejection sensitive dysphoria
People slandering Stolas (my favourite) triggers that because I feel rejected in a way. I know it's childish but I don't think you guys know what "bad" parents are. If he's a bad dad then so is my dad and lemme tell ya my dad is the best. Stolas is trying okay? Plus how are y'all judging him for something that hasn't even come out yet?
Blitzo and Stolas is back on?
Yall this is a fan animation but its kinda like a way of how its gonna be
my brave powerful girl I’m so proud of you🤖🤖🤖
😂
Why did I get a notif for this?
And it's the episode Mestermind, not Sinsmas
I believe...
For those who think that this is real, it's not. Its just a fan animation.
WAIT IS STOLIZ BACK ON???!?!!?
Why does it feel like murder drones 🧍♂️
Jasmine: [sniffle] poor Stolas
Ik they drew it but is it a real sneak peak or just a fan idea?
I hope in the original series the daughter doesn't leave her father 😢
istg dont do this to me i will cry dont do it
I saw this clip like year ago or smth, it’s really not a fake
Va a ocurrir cuando blitz está protegiendo a stolas en el tráiler
Dude becareful, theres a whole thing going on that someone leaked Hazbin Hotel season two, legitmately leaked, and Vivizie is not doing okay because of it.
Womp womp
For sec i think is orginal
I am still thinking that this is from episode Mastermind!
@@claudiosanchez3361 what makes you think that? There’s snow and ice everywhere. Unless, do you think it’s the end of the episode mastermind? Cause that makes sense
@@carolinebergin4633 because I dont go well with cliffhangers, and also a christmas special episode cannot emd like this as I mentioned before, I just hope that it is not season 2 finale because it will make me want to know what happens next as it gives me a psychological and emotional doubt! Therefore, this is a sort of plan made by Andrealphus.
@@carolinebergin4633 also its weird that concept leaks of Ghostfuckers and Sinsmas are leaked except for Mastermind, don't you think so?
@@claudiosanchez3361 yeah I’d hate for season 2 to end like that. It made my heart race and ache all at once. I think a saw a few clips of mastermind myself though
@@carolinebergin4633 well, it is good to know that I am not the only one with the same thoughts
I knew this was gonna happen🎉🎉
OMG ITS FROZEN 2!!!!
Creo que vi que Stolas volvio a enamorarse de blizt por razón que Octavia no lo aguanto mas y lo odio prefiriendo ir con su tio Andrew
Андреем?
Parece el de la ira Parece el de la ira
Is this the actual thing or is it fan made?
Preeety sure it's fan made
@@Dawn-v8t oh well we will see if it is fan made if we see it in the episode itself, otherwise it is fan-made or deleted scene
This came two years ago, and now with the trailer it's very curious the similarities, for example: Stolas outfit, the dialogue of Octavia are the same in this and in the trailer.
I think this was the first idea for the new episode, obviously and probably is gonna be changes when the episode came out.
(Sorry if my english is bad, it's not my first languange).
@@annazuni3804 it's okay
yall thinking this isnt actually original makes me laugh a lil but... those are leaks and its canon chat😭
The AI voice is killing me
I don't blame Via for walking away she has every right to Stolas is a horrible dad.
Two episodes one of which Stolas didnt do anything except be busy in the phone and forget something from over a decade ago and the other episode was over a season ago before his character development? I don't think that can tell you what horrible fathers are
@@Maggot-t7c His actions has been going on through the entire show, its a pattern. Also Stolas being busy on the phone means he cares more about fighting with Stella then actually taking care of his daughter?
Stolas…wtf did you do?
Be Stolas
Just watch the show he is not a very good dad
made her draw too many cards in Uno
Please Tell me that’s not truth 😢 I don’t want Octavia to betray his father!
Stolas still love her! 😢
God, I hope this is fake because otherwise Via is gonna have the same conflict.... FOR THE THIRD TIME
Why will Stolas ever lie to her daughter?, is it because he was never there for her?
He did lie, about his marriage and his wife. All to protect her but Via took it coldly. I know because I’ve been through something like this before with my father and older brother. They sometimes do cruel things like lying to me just to keep me safe.
not the ai voices 💀
WHAT IS THIS REAL????
AAAAAAH
Whys her name Via? Its Octavia.
Its like short form.
@@MOVIESwithERA Ohhh I see it now..
??? Esto es real?
First off the thumbnail is clickbait
Second if this is real they probably won't use it now since it was leaked. And depending how old it is
Shame on you for clickbaiting
I hope it’s not real
Good for Octavia. Stolas was a shit father during Octavia’s tumultuous teenage years, regardless of his intentions. She’s finally choosing herself over loyalty to her father who has consistently made her his second priority. Hopefully this will be Stolas’s wake up call.
Ah yes. Because all those previous 16 years of Stolas' parenting don't mean anything. See it from the other side, Stolas is finally starting to choose for himself instead of living to please others all his life. Octavia needs to wake up too. But I'm afraid she won't realize what she had until it's gone.
@@Goikuchanstolas made comments about their bodies in a sexual way when she was 17. That is not okay. He was also very sexual to blitz on a day that was meant to be about via and stolas, making her extremely uncomfortable. Even when he’s on the phone in front of her he’s super inappropriate, stolas is an awful AWFUL dad.
HELP OUT OF ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE NEVER HAPPENED THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED THE MOST
Bro never said anything sexual about via I can't do this anymore
@@Maggot-t7c yo forgive me if I’m wrong, but from my memory I remember I line when stolas was talking to via and he was like “people only want our bodies” or smth. It just felt so icky that he told his 17 yr old daughter that. He’s still a shit father, because he IS very sexual in front of her.
As much as a like a little spoilers this is too much spoiling
Like bro 7 goddamn videos?! That is way too much and I’m sure Viv would say the same
I understand what you mean but these videos are gotten here on UA-cam. I'm not actually taking from Viv documents. The last leak I used was posted about 6 months ago and has been viewed by thousands. So I just made my spin on it. But don't worry, these are the only videos available. Soon ill switch to reviews as usual. Hope I didn't spoil too much. 😅
@@spinel1008 I had a feeling this gonna happen honestly. I have a theory about what’s going on in Sinsmas but I’m probably wrong almost all my theories have been wrong
I can’t wait ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
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DURA she.
No me emocionen na mas porque sí
Why th would you even post this IF it WAS real .
😥
Idont like this iwant collor
TELL ME IT'S FAKE
SPOILERS 🎉
Bro what is this
FIRST
Glad to have you!!!
@@MOVIESwithERA Yippeee