As a 2014 BRZ owner (from new) and keeping this little fire cracker for life, It doesn't need more power. I updated the FD ratio to make every gear faster, 1 piece aluminum drive shaft, 17x7.5 Enkei RPF1's with PS5 215 tires, bunch of STI and TRD bracing, Tein coilovers with their active damper system, Crawford power block intake runners for a little more TQ down low and the obligatory STI bling bits sprinkled round. Even did a full Stereo tare out and replace adding a tiny 4 channel amp and super light weight sub to the boot (9kg). As for the latest GR86, have seen how much that pig of a car weighs compared to the earlier gen? It also has less responsive steering feel.
I have also had one for many years. Even though we always want more, I never had the feeling of lacking power or not going fast enough. The only thing that bothered me was the drop in torque at 4000 rpm. But this is easily correctable (tuning, header, E85...) And once again it is a feeling and I have obviously never measured it...
It's also about throttle response, you can't get the instant throttle response generally from a turbo, unless you start seriously upping the engineering involved, and that would indeed add lots of cost and lots of weight. The 86 has also been about balance, responsiveness and lightness for handling.
Have you had a chance to have a go in a GR86? They are a level up all round and comparing the peak HP numbers doesn't tell the whole story - under the curve the GR86 is way up on torque, ofc you'll get more from FI mods on either but having tried both the GR86 is an incredible OEM piece of kit. In regards to the no OEM turbo - it's probably fair play on the GT and GR86 - but it's probably worth seeing what Toyota are cooking up with the next iteration, they seem to be breaking ties (or going in different directions) with BMW and Subaru atm. There's a lot of noise about the 3rd gen of this 86 being a 1.6 GTS hybrid - with mules out there running it already but automotive is a weird world and until it's actually announced and on Toyota's website it's never a done deal. Toyota will be announcing something in 2-3 weeks time at the Tokyo Auto Salon but that might just be the Celica and I guess a GRMN revised Yaris.
@@CarAndMechanical Ngl I've wanted to drive a GR86 for a while now, I think they're great looking cars and of course are a little better on the performance side. Hopefully at some point I'll be able to get in one and have a go. I'm really excited to see what they cook up with the newly announced Celica and mr2, can't wait to see those!
@@ConnerRhysuk The next generation Toyota GR86 is expected to have a turbocharged 1.6-liter 3-cylinder inline engine (same as the GR Yarris), and is rumored to debut in late 2025:
@@PlunneCeleste what is that supposed to mean? I just said if we are talking about keeping a heritage..... How are you keeping heritage if you are using engines from another company? It seems that once you do that you can do anything.... There's no reason turbocharging should be off the table
I had a 2013 Scion FRS for 9.5 years. I drove it from 5km to 250000km. Not a single issue just the recall. I never changed the brakes. Drove it in 30c to -40c in Canada. You need good summer tires like ps4s. Now I have a WRX. It's a boring car compared to the FRS.
Have you taken your car theough the twisties??? That car's handling is way better than my abilities. The reason for this car is handling not straight line dragging.
@@izustun9851 probably not, but it is one thing lots of people say the car should have, hence why I made this video, to kinda explain why, Toyota / Subaru won't do it
The Subaru - Toyota partnership will end in 2025. I don't think we'll see a BRZ variant , but a new GR 86 is rumered , and like other comments here suggested it could have the a de-tuned version 1.6 turbo from Yaris / Corolla GR , or some form of light hybrid. BTW power doesn't make a "sport car" sports cars come in varaity of shapes and sizes , sports car is not a supercar . A light wight , agile , razor sharp to drive car is a sports car , same with Miata , on that fron the Miata and GT86 / brz GR deliver in spades!
this is inaccurate, I have been told there will be an GR86 with a yaris 3 cylinder G16E-GTS engine comin soon by a very well known racing driver in Australia. Also it will be a similar weight So i guess we will see.
It is RIGHT for Toyota not to put turbo in 86/BRZ. If you want a turbo coupe, GO BUY SUPRA! NA, "LIGHTWEIGHT" and RWD are 86/BRZ selling points. Especially light weight is becoming a very RARE car feature, even Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini and even Lotus are getting heavier. There are only 2(3) light weight sport car that normal people can buy nowadays - 86/BRZ and MX5.
As a 2014 BRZ owner (from new) and keeping this little fire cracker for life, It doesn't need more power. I updated the FD ratio to make every gear faster, 1 piece aluminum drive shaft, 17x7.5 Enkei RPF1's with PS5 215 tires, bunch of STI and TRD bracing, Tein coilovers with their active damper system, Crawford power block intake runners for a little more TQ down low and the obligatory STI bling bits sprinkled round. Even did a full Stereo tare out and replace adding a tiny 4 channel amp and super light weight sub to the boot (9kg).
As for the latest GR86, have seen how much that pig of a car weighs compared to the earlier gen? It also has less responsive steering feel.
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I have also had one for many years. Even though we always want more, I never had the feeling of lacking power or not going fast enough. The only thing that bothered me was the drop in torque at 4000 rpm. But this is easily correctable (tuning, header, E85...) And once again it is a feeling and I have obviously never measured it...
At 2:25 the rest quoted on screen is extremely misspelled in multiple places, is this verbatim from the magazine or your version of the statement?
@@iothomas its just cos im an idiot and didnt realise i misspelt it 😂
I live in Chatteris where Fensport is based. So just used to seeing boosted / race examples of these all the time.
Must be cool!
It's also about throttle response, you can't get the instant throttle response generally from a turbo, unless you start seriously upping the engineering involved, and that would indeed add lots of cost and lots of weight. The 86 has also been about balance, responsiveness and lightness for handling.
This car is great the way they are it doesnt need a turbo from factory. Buy a skyline or supra or wrx sti if you want a turbo car period..
Yeah fair, can't argue that
Have you had a chance to have a go in a GR86? They are a level up all round and comparing the peak HP numbers doesn't tell the whole story - under the curve the GR86 is way up on torque, ofc you'll get more from FI mods on either but having tried both the GR86 is an incredible OEM piece of kit.
In regards to the no OEM turbo - it's probably fair play on the GT and GR86 - but it's probably worth seeing what Toyota are cooking up with the next iteration, they seem to be breaking ties (or going in different directions) with BMW and Subaru atm.
There's a lot of noise about the 3rd gen of this 86 being a 1.6 GTS hybrid - with mules out there running it already but automotive is a weird world and until it's actually announced and on Toyota's website it's never a done deal.
Toyota will be announcing something in 2-3 weeks time at the Tokyo Auto Salon but that might just be the Celica and I guess a GRMN revised Yaris.
@@CarAndMechanical Ngl I've wanted to drive a GR86 for a while now, I think they're great looking cars and of course are a little better on the performance side. Hopefully at some point I'll be able to get in one and have a go.
I'm really excited to see what they cook up with the newly announced Celica and mr2, can't wait to see those!
They just did, it's in the new Celica & MR2
@@trn8061 read the title mate, turbo GT86
@ConnerRhysuk they have made one. Well Gazoo racing did...
@ yeah I know but I mean like general production cars
@@ConnerRhysuk The next generation Toyota GR86 is expected to have a turbocharged 1.6-liter 3-cylinder inline engine (same as the GR Yarris), and is rumored to debut in late 2025:
@ that'll be cool! 👀
You forgot one thing => Philosphy, the main reason is the philosophy behind the AE86 heritage which was known for its Natural Aspirated engine.
@@PlunneCeleste very true! Ngl I did forget about that part. Good point!
Where does the philosophy of using engines from another company fit in?
@@KC-lg8qf Did you see as much AE86 or 2000GT swapped by another brand or car engines? No. Not many. They are generally keeping stock engines.
@ because the Toyota gt86 is the descendant of the Toyota AE86
Which was a naturally aspirated engined car
@@PlunneCeleste what is that supposed to mean? I just said if we are talking about keeping a heritage..... How are you keeping heritage if you are using engines from another company? It seems that once you do that you can do anything.... There's no reason turbocharging should be off the table
I had a 2013 Scion FRS for 9.5 years. I drove it from 5km to 250000km. Not a single issue just the recall. I never changed the brakes. Drove it in 30c to -40c in Canada. You need good summer tires like ps4s. Now I have a WRX. It's a boring car compared to the FRS.
stick a header/ tune ur set
True
GR86 is ditching the subaru engine, you dont think they will put in a turbo?
@@Hoop_23 if Toyota ditch the Subaru engine and replace it with something better, that'll be something I'm very interested in
Have you taken your car theough the twisties???
That car's handling is way better than my abilities.
The reason for this car is handling not straight line dragging.
@@markfung5654 exactly right and I have and it's super fun!
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GR86 already has more power and more torque. It doens't need a turbo in my opinion.
@@izustun9851 probably not, but it is one thing lots of people say the car should have, hence why I made this video, to kinda explain why, Toyota / Subaru won't do it
The Subaru - Toyota partnership will end in 2025.
I don't think we'll see a BRZ variant , but a new GR 86 is rumered , and like other comments here suggested it could have the a de-tuned version 1.6 turbo from Yaris / Corolla GR , or some form of light hybrid.
BTW power doesn't make a "sport car" sports cars come in varaity of shapes and sizes , sports car is not a supercar .
A light wight , agile , razor sharp to drive car is a sports car , same with Miata , on that fron the Miata and GT86 / brz GR deliver in spades!
this is inaccurate, I have been told there will be an GR86 with a yaris 3 cylinder G16E-GTS engine comin soon by a very well known racing driver in Australia. Also it will be a similar weight So i guess we will see.
@@CA18Drifter yeah I didn't know anything of this until I made this video! Lol hopefully I am proved wrong because this would be cool!
Hopefully Toyota ditch the shit box Subaru engine in favour of the G16E-GTS.
@@whatwoulddarrendo1325 yeah that would be awesome
It is RIGHT for Toyota not to put turbo in 86/BRZ. If you want a turbo coupe, GO BUY SUPRA! NA, "LIGHTWEIGHT" and RWD are 86/BRZ selling points. Especially light weight is becoming a very RARE car feature, even Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini and even Lotus are getting heavier. There are only 2(3) light weight sport car that normal people can buy nowadays - 86/BRZ and MX5.
why are you using such a weird filter?
@@mordante01 on what?
@ConnerRhysuk the film. The colours look weird
Annnnnd you mean Subaru....
@@trn8061 well it's Toyota and Subaru
@ConnerRhysuk yes but a Subaru designed and built engine...
@ yeah true, fair point
"Annnnnnd you mean subaru ☝️🤓" Anyone who's invested in this platform knows this.