The Cities of the Future Shouldn't Have Been Built

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  • @ageoflove1980
    @ageoflove1980 2 місяці тому +234

    Looking at the underground homes for the workers in Metropolis and thinking : Whoa they can afford those apartments on a working mans salary ? What a utopia!

  • @TheLiamster
    @TheLiamster 2 місяці тому +250

    I’d love to see a video on unbuilt cities or projects that should have been built

    • @alexanderrotmensz
      @alexanderrotmensz  2 місяці тому +39

      Great idea

    • @BuildNewTowns
      @BuildNewTowns 2 місяці тому +4

      Let's start building things we want!

    • @superflip1729
      @superflip1729 2 місяці тому +1

      fresno california

    • @SOLIDSNAKE.
      @SOLIDSNAKE. 2 місяці тому

      There's a channel out there

    • @AbstractEntityJ
      @AbstractEntityJ 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@MrGriff305-j7sSo you're saying that people should just suck it up and accept ugliness?

  • @unibrowsheepZ
    @unibrowsheepZ 2 місяці тому +155

    It seems to me the solution is make movies where people live is a distopian society of livable, walkable, beautiful cities with culturally enriching architecture. Then, just give it a couple of decades and the problem will be solved!

    • @AbstractEntityJ
      @AbstractEntityJ 2 місяці тому +4

      Duloc in Shrek? Sandford in Hot Fuzz?

    • @Primatologie
      @Primatologie 2 місяці тому +4

      Yeah, I’m seeing the same pattern here, LOL! 😆

    • @ROForeverMan
      @ROForeverMan 4 дні тому +2

      All Marvel movies.

    • @turtley4444
      @turtley4444 День тому

      That's not a dystopia if cities are perfect something has to be bad so just cut off the country with no cars

  • @theexcaliburone5933
    @theexcaliburone5933 2 місяці тому +102

    I’ve gotta say, if the LA of blade runner got some support for the poor and better hygiene systems, it would be a loooooot more livable than the LA we’ve got now

    • @backroomserklärt
      @backroomserklärt 2 місяці тому +1

      That's true

    • @backroomserklärt
      @backroomserklärt 2 місяці тому +14

      The city planning isn't that bad, it's more the dirtiness, porverty and the surveillance of its citizens.

    • @theexcaliburone5933
      @theexcaliburone5933 2 місяці тому +2

      @@backroomserklärt yep

    • @undefined5083
      @undefined5083 23 дні тому +1

      Sounds the exact same as LA of today but in the future

    • @theexcaliburone5933
      @theexcaliburone5933 18 днів тому

      @@undefined5083 the LA of today has bad land use

  • @gamezswinger
    @gamezswinger 6 днів тому +12

    Modern design sometimes undervalues the human need for privacy and space to thrive individually. The cultural narrative dismisses solitude as loneliness, overlooking the restorative power of natural environments and personal space. I used to work in a high-rise in downtown Los Angeles, and I always found the atmosphere dreary and uninviting. Riding the elevator every day, moving between floors, felt like a chore. I still vividly remember an earthquake that sent a wave of panic through everyone in the building. Lately, I've been reflecting on how urban environments often seem detrimental to mental well-being. In contrast, hiking in the mountains brings me a profound sense of peace and comfort. It makes me wonder-what kind of neurotic anxious minds shaped this modern world that feels so far removed from what nurtures us??

  • @Ekam-Sat
    @Ekam-Sat 4 дні тому +11

    If you look at how beautiful our cities were in the 1950s, it's clear we should have done more to protect our historic buildings. Instead, we embarked on a reckless demolition spree, tearing down architectural treasures to make way for cold, soulless structures of glass and steel. The result is a cityscape that often feels disconnected from its past, lacking the character and charm that once defined it.
    Take New York City, for example. In the mid-20th century, we lost iconic buildings like the original Penn Station, a masterpiece of Beaux-Arts design, which was demolished in 1963 to make way for the current steel-and-glass monstrosity. The beautiful old Singer Building, once the tallest building in the world, was also razed in 1968. Then there was the demolition of the lavish Astor Hotel in 1967, a symbol of old-world elegance. These were buildings full of history, craftsmanship, and soul-replaced by structures that lack the warmth and beauty of their predecessors.
    We should have focused on preserving these architectural gems instead of trading them for the sterile, generic towers we see today. The loss of these buildings is a reminder of what happens when we prioritize progress over preservation, and it’s a regret that many of us feel now, as we walk past the glass and steel that dominates our city streets.

  • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
    @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 2 місяці тому +105

    Romanian here, you do not know the half of it, many, many historical old style buildings were torn down during the communist's reigns that destroyed our capital of Bucharest, called the Little Paris of Eastern Europe, the same was about Poland and several parts of Germany, Austria and Hungary were many historical classic buildings were torn down in the name of "progress", for many neo-classic & art deco lovers like myself, buildings like the Chrysler & Empire State Building are hope that one day we could return to such a thing, there an already a growing national history pride in Europe, to try and preserve, restore and upgrade some of them, wiring, piping, heating, gas etc,
    The burning & restoration of Notre Dame is perhaps the sign we needed to start a new path from this capitalist socialist insanity, that modernism has brought in,

    • @Eovar_Endre
      @Eovar_Endre 2 місяці тому +7

      In Germany it's worse, WWII destroyed many many beautiful old towns (because of you know who...). The eastern replacement: totalitarian blocks, the western replacement: brutalism and utilitarianism. Latter is way way way worse! Ugly, dirty, chaotic and scary. Also, not sure about Romania, but in Germany it seems that people do not care about what IS left, they pollute beautiful old facades with mindless spray painting, throw garbage in otherwise beautiful old streets. In one word: it's a mess post-apocalyptic mess and people seem to celebrate it!???

    • @AugustusOmega
      @AugustusOmega 2 місяці тому

      capitalist socialists? you conservative fruit cakes mostly have no idea what you are saying

    • @stischer47
      @stischer47 2 місяці тому +11

      Interesting that you blame modernism on capitalism and then cite communist countries for their terrible decisions.

    • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
      @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 2 місяці тому +2

      @@stischer47 And you point is, if it ugly its ugly, if its beautifully its beautiful,

    • @BlueFire015
      @BlueFire015 19 днів тому

      Europe has been in a slow decline for over a 100 years.. and its wrong to blame this on nazi germany cause honestly we could replaced everything that was lost even with communism when that ended we could have restored them but we didnt and we probably wont cause more and more we build with modern architecture this is our leaders fault and the ppls fault for not demanding that we replace everything that was lost during the dark days of communism and both wws that left most of Europe in ruins
      still im really happy that they are rebuilding Notre Dame to what it was and didnt go with the "modernisation" of it cause there would be nothing more signalising how Europe has lost everything.

  • @vaiyt
    @vaiyt 26 днів тому +35

    In many ways, the cities of the future America is building now are WORSE than the dystopian cities cyberpunk imagined, because those at least had sensible Japanese zoning, with human sized pathways (of course portrayed as dingy alleys), active street markets and actual nightlife 😂

  • @adanactnomew7085
    @adanactnomew7085 2 місяці тому +165

    Strip malls and stroads are worse than any brutalisy building in a city that interacts with the street level.

    • @alexanderrotmensz
      @alexanderrotmensz  2 місяці тому +19

      Of course. This was just specifically talking about futuristic city depictions. Although I think Logan's Run falls in line with non-street level city design.

    • @connors3356
      @connors3356 2 місяці тому

      i like strip malls because i enjoy getting naked

    • @RextheRebel
      @RextheRebel 2 місяці тому +9

      That is preposterous and demonstrably untrue. Are strip malls and stroads irritating and poor for traditional village/community life? Absolutely. But are suburban areas worse than giant metropolitan cities full of concrete and steel towers? Definitely not.

    • @adanactnomew7085
      @adanactnomew7085 2 місяці тому +16

      @@RextheRebel a city of concrete and steel towers is too vague. The West End neighbourhood of Vancouver for example is full of 1960s era modernist towers but manages to be an extremely livable and beautiful neighborhood, full of parks, trees, greenery, etc. I think what matters more is the layout on the street than the layout in the sky. The same buildings can make entirely different neighborhoods simply based on their arrangement and streetscape

    • @strayedarticle2838
      @strayedarticle2838 2 місяці тому +14

      ​@@RextheRebelIf I had to chose I would take condensed, utilitarian steel towers over endless parking lots, and unsustainable suburbs, with a fertilized lawns that create algae blooms in nearby waterways. At least metropolis isn't a huge tax burden like suburbs.

  • @marcusmoonstein242
    @marcusmoonstein242 2 місяці тому +67

    In my opinion, the two major things that destroyed our cities were:
    1) Allowing private cars into cities. This inevitably led to cities being designed around cars rather than people, and now that the cities have been built we have to have cars in order to live in them.
    2) Zoning laws that banned organic mixed use development. Traditional cities had a jumble of residential, retail and commercial spaces all mixed together, often in the same building. Use was determined by natural supply and demand, not bureaucratic diktat.
    Put these two things together and you end up with inhuman and alienating cities that are literally bad for our psychological health.

    • @MadsterV
      @MadsterV 2 місяці тому +12

      you're right on #2, but not on #1
      People use cars because it's convenient. The problem is when it's the ONLY convenient way to move around, everyone will use it.
      Good affordable public transportation solves that problem. Trains are great for hauling large volumes of people quickly without covering it in tarmac. Buses are great for spreading that volume around through planned avenues. Add taxis for those special cases (you need to get there really fast, you're carrying things, etc) and you don't need a car. I live in such a city and I know many who can afford a car yet don't own one (there are some difficult areas though). I lived in a smaller city where taxis jacked up prices and buses are really scarce for some reason while the train only gets you to other cities...... and yeah everyone drives everywhere.

    • @Tadfafty
      @Tadfafty 2 місяці тому +5

      A huge one: 3) Architects, planners, construction crews, and investors all found that modernism and minimalism are FAR cheaper than having any ornamentation.

    • @GreenLeafUponTheSky
      @GreenLeafUponTheSky 6 днів тому

      You wouldn't cars in cities if they had high density buildings. Land and housing would as a result be cheaper

  • @Pennguin077
    @Pennguin077 2 місяці тому +30

    It's interesting to wonder what our cities could've looked like.

  • @rokano
    @rokano Місяць тому +42

    9:18 The Cologne Cathedral isn’t classical, it’s gothic

    • @raulemanuel0310
      @raulemanuel0310 5 днів тому +12

      In some people’s head they just think of classical as anything old. They don’t describe a particular time period or in this case an architectural style.

    • @sylnz97
      @sylnz97 4 дні тому +4

      that was a weird oversight ngl

    • @karlik4861
      @karlik4861 2 дні тому +2

      "classic" as in traditional

    • @karlsparmann1881
      @karlsparmann1881 2 дні тому +4

      Classical in that it followed the architectural philosophy of the classical period. It has to do with proportion and geometry.

    • @robertlehnert4148
      @robertlehnert4148 День тому

      "Gothic" was created as an intended insult by Benightment thinkers, using the general term for the Germanic Tribes that conquered the Western Empire.

  • @A_Lion_In_The_Sun
    @A_Lion_In_The_Sun 2 місяці тому +7

    You're focusing on architectural styles, but what you should be focusing on is scale. The dystopian cities in those movies are massive, with the intention of dwarfing the humanity that live in them. Whereas the cities you seem to prefer are smaller scaled, with shorter buildings and more open space. Building scale is what makes a city either a pleasant place to be, or a nightmare to live in.

  • @Knightmessenger
    @Knightmessenger 9 днів тому +4

    Logan's Run feels like a finished suburb. The idea that all these indoor spaces would be connected by automated transit, so they could be spread far apart and still be reachable. Fairlane Mall in Dearborn once had a monorail connecting it with the now closed Hyatt hotel, but it seems like that was the exception.

  • @nielsnv1267
    @nielsnv1267 2 місяці тому +49

    I think what also made cities and towns ugly is that nowadays people only design buildings and neighborhoods behind a desk, and on a drawing. With duplicates and fast cheap building methodes. In the past people designed more on location, and people just saw if it's fit in its environment, or if its fit together. And what the feeling was of the area. They made a nice environment. Especially a few centuries ago.

    • @redenginner
      @redenginner 5 днів тому +2

      Its funny if the people who pay for these buildings (usually corporations or governments) asked and were willing to pay the premium for the extra work needed,most architecture and engineering firms would gladly design in these older styles. The problem is turbo short term cost minded neoliberal governments go with whats the cheapest bare minimum while corporations love the modernist style for how spirit crushingly boring it is.

  • @armandozuniga-zx8lc
    @armandozuniga-zx8lc Місяць тому +9

    I live in Houston TX ... The Harris county jail 701 building is more beautiful than other buildings in downtown Houston 🤣🤣

  • @matthewbagley2590
    @matthewbagley2590 2 місяці тому +22

    There's nothing wrong with cities going vertical. Cities going vertical is way to avoid sprawl, especially when you don't have much buildable land and/or a high population like Tokyo, New York, or Lagos. Manhattan is filled with skyscrapers but it is one if not the most lively and urbanist friendly places in the US. Lagos is going in the way of skyscrapers because it is a mega city that is set to grow by several million people in the next coming decade. There are a few problems with MODERN skyscrapers.
    * Lack of mixed use as they mostly tend to be glass office space
    - When skyscrapers are mixed use, you can have restaurants, hotels, and observation decks open to the public and less "rich enclaves"
    * Glass is inefficient at using energy
    * Architecturally bland
    - older skyscrapers like the Tribune Tower, Empire State Building, and Flatiron building do not have this problem
    * Not built near transit in some cases (Dubai's Burj Khalifa)
    - When they are built in city centers, you can put a lot people near things like trains, buses, or streetcars
    To make it short, going vertical makes sense when you have a high population and low land. Vertical buildings can also be integrated in the streetscape with businesses on ground floors.

    • @Tinnuent
      @Tinnuent 5 днів тому +2

      Perhaps cities should limit its population growths. Perhaps new cities should be built.

  • @humanbean5547
    @humanbean5547 2 місяці тому +5

    One effect that's almost always overlooked is how buildings appear when juxtaposed with each other. Having sets of buildings in very similar styles, of similar height, with similar ornamentation, is a hallmark of the European cities chosen here as examples of appealing architecture. The buildings in today's modernist cities are individual edifices of different heights, colors, and styles, and the effect is often jarring and chaotic. More effort needs to be put into having an overall concept, not just of a skyline, but of how the city should appear from the ground.

    • @A_Lion_In_The_Sun
      @A_Lion_In_The_Sun 2 місяці тому +3

      That's why, imo, NYC is a beautiful city and Dubai is ugly. NYC has a variety of building styles, spanning at least 2 centuries, with varying heights and uses. Whereas a city like Dubai was built all at once and doesn't have the same charm or aesthetic as a city that grew organically over time.

    • @ionescuflorin7307
      @ionescuflorin7307 2 місяці тому +1

      Uniformity can be rather dull. After living for so long in the wildly diverse architectural chaos of Bucharest, I don't see myself living in most places around, say, the Netherlands, I admire their perfect architecture from a distance, but I can't relate.

  • @michael.diamant
    @michael.diamant 2 місяці тому +18

    Lovely video! Most dream of an italian village yet expect the future to look modernist dystopian. That tells you a lot why the movement and this channel is so important.

    • @alexanderrotmensz
      @alexanderrotmensz  2 місяці тому +2

      Thank you as always Michael! Can't wait to have you back on soon ;)

  • @Alex-cw3rz
    @Alex-cw3rz День тому +1

    I would add that it does seem weird that they went for the dystopian aesthetic, however originally it made sense. There needed to be lots of rebuilding after WW2 and homes fit for heroes was a promise. Well having seperate kitchen and mutiple bedrooms an indoor bathroom. These are luxurious for the time and therefore, the buildings for the people at the time where wonderful. The issue is they were surprisingly cheap to make and when it comes to making money that is more important than everything else and that has pushed design from then on. Instead of the plain and frank ugliness of the buildings have functions working class people could only dream of. They just kept with what had now become the basics for all homes.

  • @schadenfreude_000
    @schadenfreude_000 2 місяці тому +23

    Without any considerations for cost, this video feels incomplete. Yes, I would love for cities to be aesthetically pleasant. But people need to be housed, hospitals and schools need to be built, businesses have to operate, all of this in a cost-effective and timely manner.
    As much as I loved being in Köln and gaped at the magnificent architecture of her cathedral, I also recognize that the reason I gaped is that the time as craftsmanship it probably took was astronomical, not to mention the actual cost to build it.
    We may frown at the brutalist appearance of commie blocks in Eastern Europe, but truth be told, it was an effective way to quickly build decent housing.
    Unless, of course, we want to go back to a time when the aristocracy have their lavish palaces while the peasantry live in mud huts.

    • @ionescuflorin7307
      @ionescuflorin7307 2 місяці тому +3

      Any idea what the costs of widespread adoption of neoclassical revival architecture would be? Asking this as someone who just thinks we need more affordable housing and all, no matter the style. Personally, all this debate between "all neoclassical" versus "all modern" is rather unsavory and all too ideological - I believe more than a few people can appreciate European walkable old town aesthetics but also rich-looking sleek minimalism.

    • @schadenfreude_000
      @schadenfreude_000 2 місяці тому +7

      @@ionescuflorin7307 I have no idea of the cost of neoclassical architecture. It certainly looks expensive. I love the aesthetic of the style, but housing in particular should above all else be affordable.
      As for cities being walkable and generally pleasant, it has a lot less to do with architecture and a lot more to do with city planning and proper transportation.
      As an example, I would name the city of Eindhoven in the Netherlands. For Dutch standards it is a modern city, since it is somewhat recent. It lacks that classical architecture you see in more traditional Dutch cities. Eindhoven is still very pleasant, with bike lanes and decent transportation everywhere, green areas, and excellent urban planning, even in the older industrial region.

    • @systemakhaosu810
      @systemakhaosu810 2 місяці тому +4

      Köln Cathedral took 632 years to finish, and was so expensive that work stopped several times, the longest of which being from 1560 to 1842 (it was then heavily damaged during WW2 and in the 1960s and 1970s acid rain crisis and has been under continuous restoration since the early 1950s)
      Like, I'm a huge huge fan of Gothic architecture, but it's not exactly the most practical style, and is ridiculously expensive when compared to modernist styles. To give an example of cost (I'm adding gothic elements to the interior of one of the rooms of my house) for a gothic styled solid brass doorknob and backing plate it costs $96.99 the same company sells a plain modern styled set (also solid brass) for $23.99 (they have a couple deco designs in the $30 range, and victorian eastlake styles in the $50-$80 range). And that's just for a doorknob and plate. I added decorative corbles to the mantle and while modernist (or those cheap looking "farmhouse" style) cost around $25/ea the only options for Gothic were either antique salvage pieces which were upwards of $350/ea, or finding a specialty millwork shop and getting a set custom made for $125/ea. I had initially wanted to add tracery insets to the wainscoting in the room, but I simply couldn't afford it.
      Tldr: Gothic is pretty, but super expensive (and a pain in the a** to find) these days

    • @pawelabrams
      @pawelabrams 4 дні тому +1

      Gothic is expensive and labor intensive, but prefab decor is pretty cheap nowadays.
      Plus you're talking about a piece ornament VS a piece of ornament, the building materials don't need to change; the overall cost of a building in a historical style is only a few percent higher, and half of it is paying for an architect knowledgeable of ratios and how to properly use columns in the design.

    • @thepinkestpigglet7529
      @thepinkestpigglet7529 2 дні тому

      Tutor peasant houses are beautiful what are you talking about

  • @Danji_Coppersmoke
    @Danji_Coppersmoke 2 місяці тому +4

    In the city, People are not oppressed by architectural design but by cost of living.

    • @dcarbs2979
      @dcarbs2979 21 годину тому +2

      Architectural design does have a huge psychological impact, irrespective of cost.

  • @pedrovascodeoliveiraveriss6293
    @pedrovascodeoliveiraveriss6293 7 днів тому +3

    This feels like the architectural equivalent of the "Torment Nexus"-meme.

  • @atlanta2076
    @atlanta2076 6 днів тому +3

    I just realized how much of Arcane's city concept of Piltover/Zahn was inspired by Metropolis...

  • @poli6ady
    @poli6ady День тому

    hey! I just discovered your channel yesterday and cannot stop watching!! Your expertise on these topics is absolutely invaluable and I truly enjoy the way you structure the stories and compose the videos. Keep it up! Maybe a bit of advice: I would suggest to make patreon-exclusive content because looking at the perks of yours now are not really alluring for most. A shoutout means nothing, really. But I would love to support your work nonetheless!
    Greetings from a Bulgarian living in Amsterdam: As someone who grew up amidst brutalism, I am thankfu every day that I can enjoy the beauty and magic of this city.

  • @gregoryferraro7379
    @gregoryferraro7379 2 місяці тому +12

    One thing to consider as we assess the preserved old centers of beautiful cities is that they are now sanitized. The Medieval core of Rouen is quaint today, but that's because the city now has a modern sanitation system, horses aren't pooping and pissing all over the muddy streets, and (by the industrial era) smoke-belching factories and furnaces aren't turning the air into black pea soup.
    Riquewihr is a preserved fairytale today, but life would have been very different for people living when those buildings were new.
    Concepts like LeCorbusier's Garden City and modern American suburbs arose as a direct response to the blight of crowded cities. People wanted the "health" of the country with the convenience of the city.
    We are fortunate today that we can recreate the convenience of the density of ancient city centers and keep it more sanitary than ever before.

    • @AbstractEntityJ
      @AbstractEntityJ 2 місяці тому +8

      The problem is, city planners in the mid 20th century threw the baby out with the bathwater.

    • @kevinTG554
      @kevinTG554 4 дні тому +2

      Yes, but even considering the filth of the cities of the past. Cities built on modern ideals suck in all aspects of city planning.

  • @clamato54
    @clamato54 Місяць тому +2

    Forest Hills at 1:49 was my beautiful neighborhood for 10 years, and that exact spot in the photo was my outdoor gathering spot during the endless Covid quarantine and summer of 2020... Had to pause it and take it in

  • @queenvagabond8787
    @queenvagabond8787 4 дні тому +1

    More curves and organic shapes, I say. I love nouveau architecture, particularly excessively organic designs like those of Antoni Gaudi. Also a big fan of all-natural designs in adobe, wood and turf. Green building ftw.

  • @BuildNewTowns
    @BuildNewTowns 2 місяці тому +6

    We need to build some cool new, charming walkable towns again - with Nice architecture. If anyone wants to help me, let me know

  • @the_aesthetic_city
    @the_aesthetic_city 2 місяці тому +9

    Nice video! Important topic

  • @Unknown_Web_User
    @Unknown_Web_User 8 днів тому +1

    The current limitations of humanity, the ways to surpass them, and the methods of achieving this might give you a glimpse into the future.

  • @_human_1946
    @_human_1946 2 місяці тому +3

    I think you might find Chongqing interesting. It's planned with a Chinese emphasis on modernity, but the chaotic streetfronts, old areas, architectural quirks (eg. trees on buildings), and natural environment is a very nice contrast (it's nicknamed "mountain city" or 山城 in China).
    Besides Baidu Maps street view, idk any good English-language sources on the non-modern urbanism parts because the Chinese government isn't really proud of that (maybe tourism blogs/vlogs might have something?). In any case visiting is always ideal, it's a massive city for domestic tourism in China for a reason.

  • @haydencutrone6443
    @haydencutrone6443 4 дні тому +1

    I think a good city has a mixed of old style architecture but with some new skyscrapers and keep the old buildings but build some beautiful sky scrapers and build highways underground and keep walk ways above ground

    • @Танкозера
      @Танкозера 15 хвилин тому

      Like we have old town, and slightly less old town with some actually good looking skyscrapers

  • @PhilipGermani
    @PhilipGermani 2 місяці тому +7

    Quite well done. May our cities become beautiful once again.

  • @SiaAbderezai
    @SiaAbderezai 2 місяці тому +18

    Cost+ Labor + Materials + Maintenance. You forgot to mention those.

    • @manmanman2000
      @manmanman2000 2 місяці тому +1

      exactly!

    • @markfreeman4727
      @markfreeman4727 2 місяці тому +6

      they did not have decades of experience or the technology we have today
      yet the managed it and somehow we cannot do even half that today?

    • @manmanman2000
      @manmanman2000 2 місяці тому +8

      @@markfreeman4727 In the past, cost of labor was cheap, very cheap, while cost of materials was high. Today it is the opposite, cost of materials is usually very cheap, compared to cost of labor.
      So in the past people had lots of time to refine the building materials and make everything look as detailed and pretty as possible because labor was so cheap, while today you want to build everything as fast as possible, with as much automatization and standardization as possible, because cost of labor is so high.

    • @markfreeman4727
      @markfreeman4727 2 місяці тому +3

      @@manmanman2000 ya i disagree, labor is not expensive, companies are very good at making certain that it's not
      and about cost, there are simple low cost and inexpensive ways you can make something look nice. And i'm not referring to the artistic master pieces of the past. I mean things that have a semblance of looking nice and are not just a plain eye sore.
      Think of it in terms of burgers. There are ways you can make a good burger for cheap, but everyone is choosing to make mcdonalds (may contain beef) slivers of meat. Sure it costs less and is fast...but i woudn't even call it a burger.

    • @manmanman2000
      @manmanman2000 2 місяці тому +4

      @@markfreeman4727 It doesn't matter if you agree or disagree. It is a fact, that in the past, the most expensive part of a construction project, by far, was cost of material, while labor cost was almost free. Today the most expensive part of a construction project is by far labor cost.

  • @Tadfafty
    @Tadfafty 2 місяці тому +2

    This video brought nothing new to me, but I still watched it and loved it as I thoroughly enjoy anything that agrees with the opinions that I have made.

  • @dallassegno
    @dallassegno 2 місяці тому +4

    I have never been more disappointed by the "future" not looking anything like any art ever predicted.

  • @khalidosman8027
    @khalidosman8027 2 місяці тому +27

    This and many other videos like this leave out the elephant in the room: Cost. All of those classical architectural details cost a lot of money. They were possible back then when the kings were venerated and regarded as ordained by God to rule, and the peasant artisans were happy to do the labour of fancy masonry for a pittance pay. What is considered a European "public square" in a European city today, was accessible mainly to rich aristocrats only and barely accessible to the majority of rural peasants. This idea that cities were inclusive before and not inclusive now is a fallacy, a romantization of the past. The public squares of the past are accessible today because the people forced it to be accessible and forced it to be inclusive. If today's architecture is oppressing us, we as a people will have to force it to include us.

    • @paddy123-h9r
      @paddy123-h9r 8 днів тому +8

      Beautiful architecture was everywhere. It was the norm. In this moment there has never been this much wealth and knowledge in all of history. There is no excuse.

    • @NegraLi34
      @NegraLi34 7 днів тому +2

      @@paddy123-h9r beg to differ. you only see beautiful buildings because they were the ones that survived time. peasants usually lived under precarious conditions in poorly made houses built with wood, straw and mud (also very prone to catching on fire). that type of house was the 'norm'. actual beautiful architecure (or any architectural thought) was very sparse and reserved to rich and noble neighborhoods

    • @paddy123-h9r
      @paddy123-h9r 6 днів тому +1

      @@NegraLi34 other videos on this channel back up what I say

    • @NegraLi34
      @NegraLi34 6 днів тому

      @@paddy123-h9r Then the problem seems to be that you're using this channel as your main source of information.

    • @paddy123-h9r
      @paddy123-h9r 6 днів тому +2

      @@NegraLi34 Look at any photo of any city 100 years back, even poor housing looks better than decayed brutalist housing projects today. This is besides the point anyway, since what I’m saying is that we have the means to make things look better than ever before, but we don’t because capitalism.

  • @valmarsiglia
    @valmarsiglia 19 днів тому +1

    I remember seeing Cologne cathedral for the first time. It was 1984, and I was 15. Literally took my breath away.

  • @phillies26
    @phillies26 2 місяці тому +11

    Glad to see someone call out I.M. Pei. He’s heralded as a great architect but most of his buildings are hideous. His legacy is ushering in one of the worst architectural eras ever.

  • @erikmielke9008
    @erikmielke9008 6 днів тому +1

    What our cities are missing is a huge red cannon, like in Katsuhiro Otomo's short film Cannon Fodder

  • @romuloroman
    @romuloroman 23 години тому +1

    To have great architecture again the world must get rid of most cars by creating viable alternatives do driving.

  • @ViceCoin
    @ViceCoin 2 місяці тому +4

    Rustbelt and rural Appalachia has 50% less population than in 1950.

    • @theactualtsl
      @theactualtsl 2 місяці тому +1

      America is a dying nation

    • @RextheRebel
      @RextheRebel 2 місяці тому +1

      All their jobs were outsourced so the young left for the growing cities. Wmen have been convinced to forgo motherhood and domestic duties, instead being encouraged to eliminate their own offspring to pursue their own career, subverting the value of labor in a tighter market with service predominant jobs.
      Those are the two major reasons.

    • @Laz7481
      @Laz7481 4 дні тому

      ​@@RextheRebelThe thing is that the cost of living forces those dwelling in cities to do this. My mom tried to be a housewife but found it economically unfeasible after a certain point. She's not even traditionalist. She just wanted to make sure her children grew up with the mother she herself never had as a child.

    • @RextheRebel
      @RextheRebel 4 дні тому

      @Laz7481 was your mom married when she had you and was she still with your father?
      I realize we don't live in a country where single income households exist but wmen entering the workforce is one of the original reasons for that.

    • @Laz7481
      @Laz7481 4 дні тому +1

      @RextheRebel Yes, my mom was married when she had me. No, my parents are now divorced, although they did agree to joint custody. I can see why essentially doubling your labor force would lead to wage decline, but at the same time, leaving half the population to be fininancialy dependent isn't moral. Not that it matters now, seeing as nobody has financial freedom unless they find a very well paying job.

  • @パガイ
    @パガイ 7 днів тому +1

    i'm from one of the cities you listed that could be swapped out for LA, and i genuinely do not know which if any of the drone footage you used came from my city

  • @elorani1714
    @elorani1714 2 місяці тому +15

    It would be cool to see some success stories where modernist style buildings have been replaced with something more tasteful. I think you include an example of one around 12:05, but learning about other instances - or even just proposals - would be interesting. Maybe ID some of the most 'endangered' modernist buildings that we may see replaced with better structures in the next few years?

    • @alexanderrotmensz
      @alexanderrotmensz  2 місяці тому +4

      I would happily make those kinds of videos. The Aesthetic City's video on Le Plessis Robinson is a standout. I have one on future developments coming to Charleston and Savannah.

    • @HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva
      @HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva 2 місяці тому +2

      You'd be shocked to find out what cities like Potsdam or Dresden look like before and now. It is a *MASSIVE* improvement I can tell you.

  • @DeeRuss
    @DeeRuss 2 місяці тому +4

    I hope the US one day builds more high density residential

    • @connors3356
      @connors3356 2 місяці тому +1

      why

    • @DeeRuss
      @DeeRuss 2 місяці тому +3

      @@connors3356 because suburbs are terrible I saw with my own eyes the country land and forests I grew up around turn into ugly rich homes for people out of state to move to it’s disgusting and needs to be stopped we need natural land not a bunch of spread out houses destroying beauty

    • @connors3356
      @connors3356 2 місяці тому

      @@DeeRuss you liked your own comment

    • @Ac_a
      @Ac_a 2 місяці тому +1

      @@connors3356 No they didn’t. I did.

    • @AbstractEntityJ
      @AbstractEntityJ 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Ac_aSuburbanites can't fathom the idea that anyone disagrees with them.

  • @naufalam7840
    @naufalam7840 3 дні тому +1

    3:26 This feel looks like from Radio Gaga

  • @krush454
    @krush454 2 дні тому

    First of your videos I watched. Well my friend I am HOOKED. I love this sort of stuff, and mixing in the reasoning and history from famous movies just added to what made it great. I will look for more now!! Also, favourite Architecture style is Art deco, favourite building, the Chrysler Building

  • @SonOfTheOne111
    @SonOfTheOne111 2 місяці тому +2

    The future will be more like the Shire than NYC…

  • @Sentryalmighty
    @Sentryalmighty 2 місяці тому +5

    while i agree with your point to an extent, i think that the focus on older styles and viewing them as timeless and enjoyable styles ignores the survivorship bias in those buildings. They were built during times of slums, cheap buildings ready to collapse in on themselves. We need to consider the buildings that survived, who financed them, and how they were treated.
    the reality is that we live in a commodified land system where developers build buildings for profit above all else. Companies wont pay for metropes, for masonry, for craftsmanship when that's so expensive and rare.
    The video I think also dismisses some people's reactions to skyscrapers. I have recently met someone who was in awe of skyscrapers just due to their size.
    And the dig against YIMBYists I think is also a bit eesh. The person who said to build a bunch of them in local cities is likely wanting a solution to the housing crisis that grips much of the UK and the Global North. Buildings that house 20,000 people would be a massive benefit and deprecation of rent, making it more affordable for people to live.
    Don't get me wrong, I want beautiful buildings in my cities. But we need to understand the system in which buildings were and are built.

    • @RextheRebel
      @RextheRebel 2 місяці тому

      Any building large enough to house 20,000 ppl is part of the problem. Housing ppl is essential, but housing 20,000 in a skyscraper is the opposite of essential. It's the reason everything sucks.

    • @Sentryalmighty
      @Sentryalmighty 2 місяці тому +5

      @@RextheRebel I'd say the fact that affordable housing has been bought up and rent prices are going up and most zoning allowed is less dense than even the historic buildings in cities is a bigger contributor.
      Like forget a building large enough to house 20,000 people, most cities struggle to even allow a building that can house 12! (on most of their land)
      Also I'd say before you bash the building, maybe look at the units they provide. I'm not saying that it's an actually good building, but it very much is a livable residence that isn't a slum.
      But yeah "oh housing ppl is essential, but not THIS way" is silly. It's addressing the problem, a problem that cities in the west are dragging their feet to address.

  • @WDWCentral
    @WDWCentral 2 місяці тому +5

    4:35 small complaint but Michael Graves is Post Modern meaning he criticized many elements of modernist architecture.

  • @wooderice64
    @wooderice64 2 місяці тому +1

    I see a couple of pictures of classic Philadelphia buildings in this video. You should see Louis Kahn's masterplan for Philly from the 1960s. It would have been an absolute hellscape had it gotten built. Ed Bacon was bad enough as he was, but Kahn with free reign would have been a whole extra step above.

  • @Bioniking
    @Bioniking 2 місяці тому +9

    What can I say, great analysis and video!

  • @Danji_Coppersmoke
    @Danji_Coppersmoke 2 місяці тому +3

    This is another head in the cloud superiority complex but shallow analysis. So much gibberish words to evoke emotion without saying nothing concrete. Also comparing a cathedral to a residential/office building ( has he thought about that maybe indented usage is different?)

  • @grandmasteryoda6717
    @grandmasteryoda6717 2 місяці тому +1

    Underrated video. I wish more people in my country watched it (I’m Brazilian).

  • @cuh5018
    @cuh5018 17 днів тому +1

    7:00 I’d like to point out, (as you depicted this issue as global,) is merely a western issue. Taking a look at Asian countries and developing countries as a whole, sanitzation has only improved over the years. While the west degrades.

  • @Clukay404
    @Clukay404 2 місяці тому +5

    There's nothing more dystopian than having a city whose layout is similar to most Japanese cities, but having to commute by car/motorcycle.

  • @Aureus_
    @Aureus_ 4 дні тому

    Old New York looks so dreamy and powerful, I love it!
    To then see our soulless, hedonistic and homogenisation of everything that was once fiction and created as a warning.. to now be reality and celebrated is truly shocking.

  • @hurricanefury439
    @hurricanefury439 6 днів тому +1

    if i could point to a city of the future that actually would have worked I'd say the original EPCOT design
    yeah the disney connection was weird but from an urban planning and design perspective it was pretty solid

  • @florin-titusniculescu5871
    @florin-titusniculescu5871 2 місяці тому +2

    the future isn't exactly inevitable ...

    • @archimetropolis
      @archimetropolis 2 місяці тому

      Is time going to stop or reverse or something

    • @florin-titusniculescu5871
      @florin-titusniculescu5871 2 місяці тому

      @@archimetropolis time won't stop , but our whole setup just might cease to be

  • @TaiFei
    @TaiFei 22 години тому

    I always find it quite remarkable how the living conditions in the early 20th century are romanticized without question. Nice examples of grand boulevards are used as examples. Unfortunately, the living conditions of the working class are forgotten. Rooms were inhabited by shifts, with sometimes catastrophic sanitary conditions. This is constantly forgotten in such videos.

  • @123winimini
    @123winimini 3 дні тому

    I read the book "ornament and virtue" and it talks exactly about that...crazy how we just stopped building beautiful

  • @samlee86421
    @samlee86421 День тому

    Can you please explain what are the "Classical Principals" in a future video. Thanks

  • @ionescuflorin7307
    @ionescuflorin7307 2 місяці тому +1

    People can like European walkable old town aesthetics and also ultra-modern sleek architectural too, why does it have to be either/or?
    Is the neoclassical revival style actually climate-proof and sustainable? Mere ideological agenda won't help it become widely adopted. If it's still labor intensive, there's no future for it outside luxury sector. And right now we need more affordable construction, not even less.

  • @miketackabery7521
    @miketackabery7521 2 місяці тому

    I love you Alexander. Thank you for being on this subject. I wish Stewart Hicks and architecture schools could be inoculated with you and learn what beauty is. God bless you!

  • @gelandres
    @gelandres 7 днів тому

    I think it's a bit misguided to say architects and planners created this modern environment. Perhaps in the beginning of the 20th century. But our built environment today has been mostly created by real estate speculators and the financial industry, supported by federal government incentives that emphasize uniformity and designed by engineers who prioritize machines over people. Architects and planners are mostly reacting to these forces, not leading them. The idea of an architect as a leading creator is itself an outdated viewpoint that belongs more to the Ayn Rand era, and not the reality of our times. I would even go as far as saying most creative people today are under the control of the corporate elite, from which they get commissions and are dependent on for work. Any current movement, such as The New Urbanism and others, must deal with these forces if they want to make change. and the fact that little continues to change is an example of the entrenchment of the real estate-financial-engineering-government industrial complex.

  • @leoKogel
    @leoKogel 2 місяці тому +2

    Verry interesting Video, on a realy importand topic🔥! Especially if one take into account that sience nowadays comes more and more to the conclusion that the simple lack of beauty, detail and nature can have a bad impact on the human psychology. This goes to the point, that a single tree near our home can lower the chance of getting depressed, whilst an ugly, unhuman environment can slow down the healing process of an ill person. It is realy sad that modernists just ignore those facts, desperatly searching for a utopian future, that never will be and that nobpdy wants.😢

  • @Warriorx269
    @Warriorx269 2 місяці тому +1

    As someone who lives in Dublin I absolutely hate the architecture that's left over from the past. Everything is too small and insignificant looking.

  • @brenthays6539
    @brenthays6539 7 днів тому

    I have gazed up from ground level at the Sears Tower in Chicago and Salisbury Cathedral in England. The Sears Tower is impressive, but the cathedral in Salisbury is breathtaking and awe inspiring.

  • @wtfa2910
    @wtfa2910 2 місяці тому +1

    I think when you look at places like coruscant from Star Wars I would love to live there

  • @nedludd7622
    @nedludd7622 5 днів тому

    Your photo at 4:17 is apparently of the Salk Institute, a research center, in San Diego, not of a city.

    • @kevinTG554
      @kevinTG554 4 дні тому

      Yes, but the principle stands

  • @jukkasarilo7573
    @jukkasarilo7573 7 днів тому

    Corners and ornaments are expensive. Making square boxes is cheaper. And there is always the city giving rights to build a certain amount of floor space. So square boxes.

  • @evangreen3080
    @evangreen3080 2 місяці тому +5

    There’s a danger in making old styles kitsch thinking that copying them will revive them. Vitality is not stagnation. The idea should be to create beautiful engaging buildings in an ultimately humanistic way. Not to *dehumanize with oppressive copies of prescribed orthodoxy.

    • @RextheRebel
      @RextheRebel 2 місяці тому

      What you call stagnation, others call familiarity and structure.

    • @evangreen3080
      @evangreen3080 2 місяці тому

      @@RextheRebel lol the stagnant? It’s human nature to get used to things sooner or, yes, later. My point though was to do more of what he was saying in vital new ways, *not* to argue against it.

    • @AbstractEntityJ
      @AbstractEntityJ 2 місяці тому +1

      Why not both? You can imitate old styles but also create new styles that build on traditional motifs.
      Reconstructions should respect the original.

  • @woodypigeon
    @woodypigeon 4 дні тому

    Cities need lots more life and greenery, wild habitat for birds and other creatures as well as just parks for humans. I like the solarpunk vision. I also have a fascination for heavily decayed brutalism and modernism.

  • @nationalist1910
    @nationalist1910 День тому

    There is the anime, Legend of the galactic heroes,that shows how humanity grows and develops.
    In the begining humanity ventures out into space to colonise many planets, creating modern structures to thrill the eye and the mind.
    However humanity advanced to fast and the government of this Galactic federation collapsed and was replaced by the Galactic Empire of the Goldenbym dynasty.
    Under it's founder, Emperor Rudolf I, all modern structures were destroyed and replaced by more European style structures from the 19th century.Like humanity had taken a great leap forward and was now taking a step back.
    A new political organisation would later rise, far from the Empires rule; the Free Planets Alliance. Here structures were modern and pleasing to the eye, but were all steel and concrete based.
    So even modernisation does not mean following the main trend.

  • @tomranks
    @tomranks 8 днів тому

    Coruscant from the Star Wars franchise is the closest representation of what the future of big cities could look like

  • @docblade3270
    @docblade3270 22 години тому

    Feels like we live in a self-service of dystopian realities, the elites take the worst of each story and try to replicate it in the real life!

  • @Cultureshockcrew
    @Cultureshockcrew 2 місяці тому

    Your content is so good! I wish we were friends 😭

  • @BallaBimba
    @BallaBimba 5 днів тому

    10:40
    Looks exactly like one of George Orwell`s ministry in 1984.

  • @brianarbenz1329
    @brianarbenz1329 2 місяці тому

    Well done video. Very mindful.

  • @Hopscotchlemonadespritz
    @Hopscotchlemonadespritz 22 дні тому

    Modernism was an important counterpoint, and the best examples are amongst the greatest of all history. However, overuse and exposure breeds contempt, and it's time to rediscover what we've lost before it's too late.

  • @latenightlogic
    @latenightlogic 6 днів тому

    I tuned out when I realised this just an uncritical look at modern architecture… even used some awesome examples of why some of it looks brilliant like at 4:26 amongst others.

  • @fuqupal
    @fuqupal 7 днів тому +1

    What's that 0:33
    Is that the Roman empire?

  • @fredi9204
    @fredi9204 3 дні тому

    If you take a brutalist concrete block and cover it with plants, it looks kind of...almost romantic? Geometric hard-cut ruins overtaken by lush chaotic vegetation. Now since you spoke about YIMBYs in somewhat negative manner; the ethical duty of urban planners is to increase density. That means building UP. Creating abundant housing is the prime directive; everything else is secondary. Nothing is uglier than an aesthethically pleasing neighbourhood, with thousands of homeless dying of exposure in the streets. Now obviously Barcelona and Paris prove that beauty and density aren't mutually exclusive.

  • @williamharper6625
    @williamharper6625 4 дні тому

    I like the art nouveau movement. It seemed to be one of the last art styles before what we have know.

  • @ababababaababbba
    @ababababaababbba 2 місяці тому +1

    i ❤️ portland building

  • @SuperLocrian
    @SuperLocrian 11 годин тому

    Thanks!

  • @BallaBimba
    @BallaBimba 5 днів тому

    9:36
    Only reptlilan minds could have conceived something like this - the building looks like an avalanche that is going to crash the pedestrian and these things in the foreground look like petrified poo.

  • @KatharineOsborne
    @KatharineOsborne 2 місяці тому +13

    This feels like a naive take. You should visit the Barbican if you can. It's a prime example of brutalism but it's done in an inviting way (to the residents at least. It's intentionally difficult to find the entrances to increase privacy, but it is totally publicly accessible). I don't think it's that modern styles are worse than classical, but rather there needs to be an intentional focus on the human scale. Most buildings today suffer from maximising land use, so getting the most leaseable square footage out of a plot of land. If that's your focus, of course you're not going to care about how the pedestrian feels. In North America especially, everything is also built to accommodate cars, so pedestrians are also pushed aside that way. It's not the fault of the architectural style but the fault of late stage capitalism.

    • @alexanderrotmensz
      @alexanderrotmensz  2 місяці тому +6

      I’ve actually been to the Barbican. Not a fan, especially when entering from the street.

    • @mavrospanayiotis
      @mavrospanayiotis 2 місяці тому +1

      Also the Unité d'Habitation in Marseille is an example of planned social space and services built within. It's quite far from the dystopic idea of the anti-social degradation of Metropolis, wich is based only on exploitation and display of power. I think that more than the architects themselves, the clients and their vision are more important for the general planning.

  • @laurentderrien
    @laurentderrien 28 днів тому

    Finally someone who dares critic Le Corbusier.
    In France, most "intellectuals" still thinks he shat gold, even after seeing all the shortcomings in his works.
    Architects and urbanists should be forced to live in their projects for a time.

  • @mack.attack
    @mack.attack День тому

    The human drive to explain how one's opinions are actually objective facts is all that's on display here. A lot of your examples aren't even Modernist architecture, they're Post-Modern. You just assume that because you don't like how something looks, nobody must like it, and then you use movies to prove why this is. Some people like different things than you. It's actually one of the interesting issues with Cyberpunk media like Blade Runner -- it depicts a dystopia but like....the aesthetic looks really, really cool. (I wonder if that's because it's a MOVIE and it was crafted with artistic vision to look interesting and compelling and beautiful...it's art.)

  • @Tuberuser187
    @Tuberuser187 7 днів тому

    I don't trust modern society to actually go back to nicer, classical Cities and we will probably just end up with some mass produced, commodified simulacrum that will just feel jarring in a subtle way.

  • @mmercier0921
    @mmercier0921 5 днів тому

    there wont be enough people to maintain half of the buildings that exist now in 25 years.

  • @CZpersi
    @CZpersi 5 днів тому

    Author of this video: "Metropolis is getting outdated."
    Saudi Arabia: "Hold my Line or be dismembered"
    Emirates: "Skyscrappers need plumbing?"
    China: "This 'dystopia' thing seems very effective, Comrades. How about making it twice as dense?".

  • @jdlay8422
    @jdlay8422 4 дні тому

    I disagree with much of what is said here. Yes, BLADE RUNNER and METROPOLIS display undesirable dystopias, but LOGAN'S RUN's domed city was gorgeous. The ONLY thing that made it a dystopia was the requirement of its citizens to die at 30 yrs old. Futuristic gleaming cities are beautiful...the more modern, the better. We can have your favored excessive walkways and beautiful parks on the outskirts of those Sci-fi Utopias. I want to live in the "future" NOW.

  • @colin7801
    @colin7801 8 днів тому

    I had a thought while watching this video. A return to classical architecture is a great idea and all. I’d love to see America’s cities be more gorgeous and cultural. However, I think there is room for new designs just not the ones contemporary architects shove down our throats. Nearly every building project has adopted minimalism (and cost cutting). I watched another video about how architecture schools mainly teach this design motif. They accept students which make the wackiest buildings possible therefore we get wacky and frankly ugly looking buildings. If you ask me, you need to know the rules before you break them. You can’t just start off breaking the rules, that’s how we get to where we are today.
    edit: you made this point lol, i just didn’t finish the video 😅

  • @Viikkinu
    @Viikkinu 2 місяці тому +4

    the damage world wide is too big. our future cities are just the same glass modern buildings.

  • @ДенисЛюбченко-ю6щ
    @ДенисЛюбченко-ю6щ 18 годин тому

    Modernism and deconstructivism are a continuation of the ideas of functionalism, which was based on art-deco, and you can continue this forever. Modernism can, and it does look great. It is just that you need to open your mind and understand the ideas of the author.

  • @truman77
    @truman77 5 днів тому

    Art deco such nice looking buildings

  • @muscledavis5434
    @muscledavis5434 2 місяці тому

    I loved the Images at the end🤩