Why Coast FIRE is Better Than Traditional FIRE
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- After pursuing FIRE (Financial Independence / Retire Early) for a while, it has become apparent that Coast FIRE is more our speed.
In today's video, I break down my Coast FIRE vs. Traditional FIRE views and discuss how you can achieve Coast FIRE too.
CHAPTERS
0:00 - Intro
1:02 - What Is Coast Fire?
2:00 - Coast Fire Instead Of Traditional Fire
4:30 - How To Calculate A Coast Fire Number
10:25 - Outro
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Are you pursuing Coast FIRE?
I'm on team Coast FIRE. I got a later start with retirement savings but really went minimal for many years to hit savings rates 70% and above. We just paid off our house last month too. April was the first "no mortgage anymore" month for us. The reality hasn't hit us yet. We're now building up that FU money while still putting more into retirement. We don't really want to stop working anytime soon, but I will be downshifting from my stressful job in the coming year or two. I appreciate the job I have as it helped get me to Coast FIRE with a paid off house, but it has taken a toll as well.
I completely feel this.
How does the idea of part-time work in the future sound to you?
I was aiming for Traditional FIRE since I was 20 years old, and by age 40, I think I fell into Coast FIRE. I had built up a nest egg by age 40 to call it quits, but also got married that year to a spouse who is extremely intelligent, and has a very good, but low stress job, never over 40/hrs a week job, that slowly but surely paid a great salary. I have found that this is the perfect scenario for a married couple, as we still have a great salary coming in, great benefits, company car...all while being debt free and a retirement portfolio is already set up and we are not contributing to it any further .
Also, 1 parent is home with the kids, able to keep the house clean, and the vacations planned. Weekend or even weekday roadtrips to the beach are easy, as only 1 spouse need to take a day off, instead of coordinating for 2 people. I truly feel like modern day society would function so much better if we went back to old times where 1 parent stayed home..its a true game changer.
I feel you Steve!
Combined, my wife and I are essentially one full-time worker now as we both work part-time.
Financially this can be difficult for some depending on where they live (cost of living, etc), but something to strive for in my opinion too.
This guy could give me terrible news and I simply wouldn’t know, he is very upbeat
I am a fan of coast fire. I’m 36 and know I’ve got time to let it grow without stressing out day to day. Live for today AND tomorrow! Great video, Andy!
Thank you for the support, and great job on your coast fire plan!
Best ever! I wished I would have done this younger! Great Job Andy!!!
I appreciate the awareness and amount of understanding that personal finance is PERSONAL! Very few people give advice like you and I enjoy your perspective.
I truly appreciate you taking the time to share that with me. You made my day!
Great advice as always. Doing a really solid job with your channel!
I appreciate that, thank you!
I like this channel as a new dad to a 4.5 month old I look forward to more content wish you the best
Glad you’re here Muhammed!
Definitely agree that most people should be aiming for Coast Fire.
I had a very non-traditional career/job in my 20s, was Coast Fire at 25, and close to regular FIRE at 30. But, although I tried to live a life doing whatever I wanted to do, I have started some hobbies and a business that earn me some money. I imagine that the vast majority of people will end up still earning income if they retire anytime before 50. So, if you accept you will probably be doing something for money even after you hit FIRE, it may be better to switch to those other funner/lower earning things when you hit coast Fire.
This is great perspective Jeff -- especially given your exposure to these different levels of FIRE.
Working can be fun in my opinion. As long as you feel like you're contributing to something you care about.
And not working too many hours.
I like 20-30 hour workweeks. But I'm experimenting. I'll report back!
Team Coast Fire! But still cannot help saving at least 40% take home--it is addicting. Always a saver and frugal, have 401K & 401A funds the last 20+ years. I am 55 yrs old and discovered FIRE movement 4 years ago, since then maxed out Wife's and My back doors Roths too. I will retire at 62. Blessed to have a Union pension at 62, that combined with reduced Social Security will cover all expenses, this allows the other funds to grow untouched in theory. I know I am blessed and wish all your other subs prosperity and peace! Rich
I get it! As a lifelong saver, saving feels right to me.
I challenged myself by reading "Die With Zero" recently and I enjoyed the results so far -- here's my Die With Zero review -- ua-cam.com/video/RRgS2VzU5tA/v-deo.html
@@MarriageKidsandMoney Thanks Andy, watched your, die with zero video, agree with enough thoughts to order the book-thank you! A good mind should be able to hold two opposing thoughts or views at the same time. Rich
Continuing to put an income percentage toward your retirement can feel really insubstantial once the retirement accounts start growing at rates over 100% income replacement.
I think I've always been on Coast FIRE even if I didn't know it at the time. But my ultimate goal is early FIRE. Here's to making it happen many steps at a time.
You've got this!
Hi, really enjoying your content. You mention the strains on a marriage and finding a way to agree. Do you have any content on that topic? Thanks
Absolutely!
We have a whole playlist on "Strengthening Your Marriage" -- ua-cam.com/video/Ksb7_RTSARw/v-deo.html
@@MarriageKidsandMoney thank you
I'm not sure what train we are on yet. We're currently grinding and not spending anything unless it is a need. We only have our mortgage left, which should be paid off in 7 years from now. We currently invest approximately 60% of our net income.
Impressive savings rate!
There's nothing wrong with your plan in my opinion. My goal with the channel is to try to expand our thinking and define our own definition of family wealth and happiness.
I just wish we already achieved FI. This way we don't go to work with the goal of retiring. We'd go to work with the goal of enjoying life today until the day we are forced or decide to retire.
Find a way to build residual income ESPECIALLY when you are in a coasting position!
Absolutely!
Im a youth pastor.
I'm of the opinion that young ministers need to strongly consider Coast FIRE when our compound interest potential is so high in our 20s and early 30s.
Traditionally pastors are notoriously bad at saving and investing with an attitude of God will provide and a call to generosity. My argument in our circles is if we are able to save 15% of what we need by age 30, then the other 85% over the next 35 years can go to the active ministry preaching the gospel through the pastor being able to take cuts in salary.
I like your plan.
From a long-term philanthropic standpoint, front-loading can also do wonders for churches.
I am going for lean fire, which will take me to fat fire. I am going for a 90% savings rate. I am retired and I realized that I do not need to spend money. I now have FU money.
That's amazing, congratulations!
I retired twice. Overrated. Now I practice F.I.N.R.
Financial Independence Never Retire
I like it!
Now that I’ve found work that I really enjoy … it’s hard to imagine retiring
I am tracking my expenses for the first time. At the end of 2023 I will know my average monthly spend.
Nice work Darrell! It’s powerful to know your numbers
This makes a lot more sense compared to traditional FIRE, which just looks like a trap to me. Time in the market before you start pulling is a big deal.
I'm happy to help!
Coast fire is very similar to the Dave Ramsey baby steps. Nice.
Easy to follow and gives you the financial freedom you’re looking for!
Noob question... if we use the 4% rule, does that mean our investment will stay at that same amount, or still continue to grow or shrink over the next 30 years?
In theory, it could last 30 years (or longer) at a 50/50 stock/bond allocation.
Focusing on buying more rental properties. 5 in the next 5 years. Then maxing out Roth IRA for 10 years then coast fire. While Continuing to do 3% I get matched into a simple Ira through work the next 10-15 years.
Sounds like a great plan!
The one thing I never hear anyone talk about is how to include your passive income from real estate with the 4% rule. Let’s say you are making $100,000 per year in passive income with real estate, how much do you then actually need in investments? For example, the 4% rule means that you would need to have $2.5 million in order to make $100,000 withdraw $100,000 per year versus I could have $1.5 million in real estate that generates $100,000 per year.
I call it Boujee 🔥 😆
I like it!
One of the biggest things I've noticed is that numbers only nerds undervalue freedom
I don’t get what the difference is. You’re still picking a retirement age. Still using the 4% rule. But you just focus on paying off your house first? 😂