Getting Scammed by Return of Wilderness

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  • Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
  • All information I posted on reddit first.
    First of I have to say that I know that I am stupid, but I was curious to see what Return of Wilderness was doing, yes I lost about 2b, but since that was only like 1/3 of my bank I am not to worried. I never bought or sold gold so I don't care about that too.
    Story:
    I was watching a video of ROW yesterday(since I think those are kinda funny), and saw that he was doubling money for people, and he was searching people to join in, so I thought why not double a 100m and have a funny skype call with ROW and sent him an email.
    Everything from here on is on the video:
    We added each other on skype and had a nice little chat, I gave him 100m he made me do another 200m and so on, this went on untill I gave him about 1.5b, at that point a friend of his was working on recovering my email(The one I use for stuff like youtube and Twitch(I have a seperate email on my RS Accs and that safed my ass)). So at that moment they told me they had my email(but later on I realized that no one logged into it(2 step on each email)). So they made me go in for another 500m. At this point I knew that it was a scam but thought it would maybe solve the problem.(It didn't and I went to sleep)
    To show that ROW is actively trying to scam/hack people, something I haven't seen from him so far, I recorded the whole skype call, I can't be bothered to cut that stuff together right now, so I uploaded the uncut version.(Over 3hour long).
    The thing I want to spread with this Vid, is showing that ROW is a scammer and is trying to social engeneer into peoples Accounts.
    I give chrisarchieprods permission to use this video.
    I give sparcmaclive permission to use this video.
    I give oakdice permission to use this video.
    Sine the Reddit mods of /r/2007scape deleted my post I am going to send this to the big youtubers, to get the word out there.
    Had to blurr out a part of the video at 2:10:11 nothing happens there(Ingame) but I got a privacy complaint by ROW because his skype and face was on there.

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  • @JAZPER
    @JAZPER 4 роки тому +105

    Michael please pin this RETURN OF WILDERNESS CURRENTLY GOES UNDER THE UA-cam NAME “RUNESCAPE 2020”. He was live streaming yesterday and i called him out saying i recognise his voice and started messing with his head.
    I hope you’re doing good nowadays anyways M. Take care man

    • @zonkbronk5260
      @zonkbronk5260 4 роки тому +11

      he's a worm of a human being

    • @DIEgestthis
      @DIEgestthis 3 роки тому +9

      does he have a new YT? Lets bomb it

    • @gamewithadam7235
      @gamewithadam7235 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah he's a twat only gets like 10 views on his shitty gambling livestreams on RuneScape2020. Still miss him though and his annoying voice. Some of his videos were alright and had a certain charm to them, even if he is a cockroach. Totally understand why he got cancelled though, hacking threats are serious.

    • @DK-rg6nm
      @DK-rg6nm 3 роки тому +5

      Just report it to kempq plzz ...

    • @flowerpower111
      @flowerpower111 3 роки тому +2

      @Jackson Reade could you link it. looking that up is impossible with such a vague account name

  • @gerfall
    @gerfall 8 років тому +556

    3 hours? What the fuck is this? A Lord of The Rings movie?

    • @rko_legends5141
      @rko_legends5141 8 років тому +5

      nah fucking Braveheart

    • @sonofgod6717
      @sonofgod6717 8 років тому +2

      hahahaha

    • @dangerouslyrs8614
      @dangerouslyrs8614 8 років тому

      for real lmfao

    • @shinrinyoku88
      @shinrinyoku88 8 років тому +4

      ikr, i was like 'i just wanna see the fucking scam not a movie'

    • @familyguydog
      @familyguydog 8 років тому +1

      I've got the highlights on my channel. Check out my latest video.

  • @RaikesyYT
    @RaikesyYT 8 років тому +280

    I'm glad you did this honestly, because people in the community Don't understand how much of a rodent ROW is. I can't say you didn't deserve to lose your items, but hopefully people who watch this will learn from your mistake.

    • @cybersafe4123
      @cybersafe4123 4 роки тому +3

      Youre row lol

    • @UaEsArcher
      @UaEsArcher 4 роки тому

      @@cybersafe4123 are you implying that Raikesy is row?

    • @cybersafe4123
      @cybersafe4123 4 роки тому +3

      @@UaEsArcher could be just fucking with you theyre both from the uk though sounds like

    • @UaEsArcher
      @UaEsArcher 4 роки тому +3

      @@cybersafe4123 well yeah you made me look around for abit and I know for a fact that the gambling channel that's called Runescape2020 is row for sure

    • @Liam20005
      @Liam20005 2 роки тому

      @@UaEsArcher yeah I no the guy he does live gambling streams right???

  • @247hornyboy
    @247hornyboy 7 років тому +103

    In all seriousness you could 100% get him arrested, at 3:14:15 he threatens to send a bomb to your house. People get arrested for much less.

  • @rko_legends5141
    @rko_legends5141 8 років тому +254

    tweet this to Ronan

    • @MichaelMeyerRS
      @MichaelMeyerRS  8 років тому +66

      ronan already saw the vid bit thank you ;)

    • @kieronb6038
      @kieronb6038 8 років тому +2

      What did Jagex say?

    • @MichaelMeyerRS
      @MichaelMeyerRS  8 років тому +126

      Kieron B banned all of row's accs

    • @dodgydave1053
      @dodgydave1053 8 років тому +61

      Did you get the authorities involved, you could get them all in serious shit for this.

    • @Emilianolokocho123
      @Emilianolokocho123 8 років тому +2

      i thought they didn`t use youtube videos as evidence?

  • @tobyrodgers91
    @tobyrodgers91 4 роки тому +39

    I'm all about mental health awareness and all that, but I also hope these guys take a nap on the train tracks.

    • @Mark_Money420
      @Mark_Money420 4 роки тому +5

      Return of wilderness has a new YT account he hosts gambling on its "runescape2020" report that shit

  • @ItsIceyyy
    @ItsIceyyy 8 років тому +57

    Take this further Michael they need a criminal record after they've pulled your personal information.. and threatened you and your family

  • @TheEuropeanFox
    @TheEuropeanFox 8 років тому +48

    Old habbits die hard ... ROW is the kind of guy who will end up in jail one day, just you watch.

    • @skullclot420
      @skullclot420 8 років тому +1

      your an idiot, legal procecutors don't care about online games. He traded the money, he basically gave his shit away. Even if you give information of your paypal, you gave your information away, it's your fault. it's in the legal rules and conditions you agree to when you make your account.

    • @TheEuropeanFox
      @TheEuropeanFox 8 років тому +6

      skull clot
      I'm not saying he'll get in trouble for *this*, I'm saying this is just the start, soon he'll realise there's more money to be made by manipulating people irl.
      He'll either be a successful man or big Bubba's bitch.
      And stealing people's paypals and taking their money *is* illegal ... moron. The rules and conditions you agree to are just to cover PayPal's ass, not the thief >:/

    • @skullclot420
      @skullclot420 8 років тому

      +European Fox I'm saying if you give your login details, they won't do anything, do some fucking research paypal isn't responsible for that shit! ignorant ass is what you are.

    • @skullclot420
      @skullclot420 8 років тому

      +European Fox don't Skype with people who are famous for scamming. The authorities don't care when it comes to flawed privacy issues. you got hacked big deal people get hacked everyday for paypal and gmail accounts and the authorities just tell you to be more secure on the internet, even giant ass scams don't get publicity because it ultimately comes down to a lack of privacy on the victims part. I've taken 4 years of law school and studied a lot of criminal justice in college, nothing will be done about this, not until actual laws regarding internet issues are taken into parliament. thank you goodbye, his fault, who the fuck doesn't use vpn or that private Skype app when skyping famous scammers, he even requested row on skype, didn't even ask for a alternative way to communicate like teamspeak or something, he immediately trusted his Skype information which ultimately leads to a lot of issues.

    • @TheEuropeanFox
      @TheEuropeanFox 8 років тому +2

      skull clot
      So you're saying ROW should not be punished because what he did is not against the law (at least not the law book you studied)
      Just because something isn't against the law in one place or another, doesn't make it right.
      (same applies to things that are illegal btw)
      He's smart enough to only prey on nerds or children but one of these days he'll piss off the wrong person's brother/child.
      My main point is that it's not what he's doing *now* that matters, it's what he'll end up doing in the future.
      If he keeps going down this path, he'll eventually move on to something bigger and I can't wait to see the proverbial shit hit the fan.

  • @Einar979
    @Einar979 8 років тому +52

    i really hope you report him to the police for this shit.. to hack your email and to threath you like that is highly against the law..

    • @Panjabijs
      @Panjabijs 8 років тому

      What should I do he scammed me 30m we talked on skype he has my Skype rsn email help please what do I do he has ip from skype

    • @michaelgavin1909
      @michaelgavin1909 8 років тому +1

      tell your mom/dad and get an internet provider change. I don't think hell pester you for a simple 30m, but if you're worried then you can just get a new router or internet provider for a new ip, there are vpn's and ip address switchers available but make sure they are legit and backed.

    • @Panjabijs
      @Panjabijs 8 років тому

      +Michael Gavin I called my isp internet supporter they said unplug router for 31 minutes and ip will change is that fine?

    • @footballislife6209
      @footballislife6209 8 років тому

      Lmao

    • @Panjabijs
      @Panjabijs 8 років тому

      +XDiZzYX911 why would I waste my time lying about this wtf would I get you idiot ignorant

  • @xmarines8029
    @xmarines8029 8 років тому +106

    Jagex should take down ROW's youtube again , who agrees?

  • @RanchOwnzU
    @RanchOwnzU 8 років тому +22

    report this to the authorities for cyber crimes/hacking public databases, blackmail and threatening, etc. if you don't, i will.. but please do so. it'd be worth the ely to hear about ROW's trip to jail

  • @Will-le8yj
    @Will-le8yj 8 років тому +25

    Damn Michael I'm so sorry for you. My heart dropped when you said "I thought you were better then this Paul" :(((

  • @shababalif2649
    @shababalif2649 8 років тому +108

    physical abuse threat, lying, stealing, invasion of privacy. This is goes deeper then runescape buddy

    • @jacksmith4460
      @jacksmith4460 3 роки тому +1

      4sure

    • @TTVBunnyDougie
      @TTVBunnyDougie 3 роки тому +4

      They broke laws. Period. At least here in the states.

    • @jamiep4674
      @jamiep4674 7 місяців тому

      @@TTVBunnyDougiePaul is from UK.

  • @bluntboi101
    @bluntboi101 4 роки тому +16

    I still find this hilarious imagine trusting this guy

  • @ebooog69
    @ebooog69 8 років тому +22

    @3:08:25 the "nightwalkers" mom comes in his room lmfao

  • @tigerinthetrees
    @tigerinthetrees 8 років тому +29

    That moment when you are planning on only risking 100m, and end up losing over 1b loool

    • @PortlandMan
      @PortlandMan 3 роки тому

      Over 2b actually

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 4 місяці тому

      idk what he thought he was gonna get giving that away

  • @blairwaldorf3715
    @blairwaldorf3715 8 років тому +126

    Contact me, I'm an attorney at law and specialized in cyber crime. I left you a message and will do your case pro bono.

    • @H4Z3
      @H4Z3 8 років тому +2

      PLEASE DO THIS !!!
      You seem like a really honest, cool person, don't let fuckers like those 2 ever take advantage of you again!

    • @rubinwilliams5390
      @rubinwilliams5390 8 років тому +124

      Blair is legit, he helped me get my account back on club penguin.

    • @mylesperry7880
      @mylesperry7880 8 років тому +10

      genuinely laughed at that

    • @inthecutsheesh
      @inthecutsheesh 8 років тому +1

      +Rubin Williams LMFAO

    • @sonofgod6717
      @sonofgod6717 8 років тому +11

      Yes Blair is legit. I was streaming on chaturbarte then som1 record it and post it on youporn and a lot of other porn sites. He help me deleting them all. Thank you blair.

  • @DoctorShadowfax
    @DoctorShadowfax 8 років тому +57

    You should really take legal action against these guys. I used to enjoy rows content but this is criminal right here. Trust me, take legal action against him.
    Thumbs up this comment so that he can see this and show him your support!

    • @ohokok
      @ohokok 5 років тому

      @@Nightwalk444 the gold in game is worth real world money dumbass at about a 0.7 to 1 ratio

    • @bgsmurf4e731
      @bgsmurf4e731 5 років тому +2

      @@Nightwalk444 maybe he has done a cyber crime (trying to hack his email) tho this case is going to be long ass and prob. losed.

  • @Sweettooth1231
    @Sweettooth1231 3 роки тому +14

    28:22 "this is gonna help your channel a lot"... ironically, it did

  • @imnotyou23
    @imnotyou23 8 років тому +142

    What a skid. He got your password via a database leak. He's not scary at all.

    • @zakinfinite
      @zakinfinite 8 років тому +12

      ^

    • @cooke9368
      @cooke9368 8 років тому +9

      ^^

    • @daleHarrison93
      @daleHarrison93 8 років тому +1

      Yeah most peoples passwords are on there, if you don't change regulary your pretty fooked haha

    • @puncakes2876
      @puncakes2876 8 років тому

      so, how did he get access to all his other personal info? or is that all somehow leaked in one place as well?

    • @imnotyou23
      @imnotyou23 8 років тому +1

      Josef Eid
      Database leaks can have everything from just a username and password to social security numbers, phone numbers, credit cards etc.

  • @liambond8209
    @liambond8209 5 років тому +23

    Never trust a scouser....

    • @MrDontclickthislink
      @MrDontclickthislink 3 роки тому +6

      He's not a scouser, he's from the Wirral, don't get confused and lump us all in.

    • @livewire6009
      @livewire6009 3 роки тому +4

      @@MrDontclickthislink and never trust someone from Birmingham

  • @PureOrigins
    @PureOrigins 8 років тому +5

    After watching this, I truly never want to hear the saying 'You are so close"

  • @SuperYtc1
    @SuperYtc1 3 роки тому +15

    Bookmarking funny moments:
    23:10 pretends to care about chompy bird hunting
    39:00 gives 500m
    55:05 take out the pots
    1:00:15 take the glories out
    2:05:50 last 300m
    2:59:12 do I seem genuine
    3:03:30 shit hits the fan
    3:14:00 bomb

    • @PauIdenino
      @PauIdenino Рік тому +1

      "Take out the pots, please" 💀

  • @poodoo138
    @poodoo138 8 років тому +24

    This is seriously fucked up. I'm so sorry this happened to you. Losing RS gp is one thing, but threatening you and your family is so much more. Thanks for posting the video to expose these scumbags. Are you planning on taking legal action?

    • @Panjabijs
      @Panjabijs 8 років тому

      What should I do he scammed me 30m we talked on skype he has my Skype rsn email help please what do I do he has ip from skype

    • @poodoo138
      @poodoo138 8 років тому +1

      If he didn't threaten you or your family irl, he probably didn't do anything actually illegal. I would just cut off all contact with him. He's only saying he has your IP to scare you, as he can't actually do anything with that but find the city you're in. And there's probably a lot of people in your city, so there's not much he can do with that

    • @Android-gf1rz
      @Android-gf1rz 8 років тому

      what time in the video did he say that kind of stuff, icba to watch it :S

    • @poodoo138
      @poodoo138 8 років тому +1

      worth starting watching at like 3:03:00

    • @XDiZzYX911
      @XDiZzYX911 8 років тому +1

      +MERICASTEAM Gaming nerd

  • @fl0ff
    @fl0ff 8 років тому +125

    Who seriously goes this far over Rs items LOL

    • @Volnixz
      @Volnixz 8 років тому +44

      you know they are just going to RWT it

    • @BodyBagdBro
      @BodyBagdBro 8 років тому +14

      i mean, he legit just made 2k in 3 hours. Pretty fucking decent.

    • @xiChewy
      @xiChewy 8 років тому +12

      +BodyBagdBro lmao hell have the money for a week.. If that. Pauls gonna be in jail soon. Jagex already announced they are filing lawsuits against wildy

    • @BodyBagdBro
      @BodyBagdBro 8 років тому +4

      22 shhkadeeww
      a week? 100% certain he sold the gold as soon as he got it lol

    • @xiChewy
      @xiChewy 8 років тому +2

      +BodyBagdBro true.. But in a lawsuit like this.. The real world value would be applied and after alls done hed have to pay back that amount to michael.. (After all his other fines and hopeful sentencing) If michael files a lawsuit alongside jagex..

  • @ghandimate3
    @ghandimate3 3 роки тому +5

    This is genuinely heartbreaking:( you can hear the sadness in his voice. He handled it like a champ. Fuck ROW.

  • @Ramiak8
    @Ramiak8 6 років тому +8

    "its only 500m" "just do it bro" LMAO

  • @itsjokesonyou252
    @itsjokesonyou252 4 роки тому +24

    return of wilderness is now going under youtube channel Runescape2020 where he does gambling

    • @xscoobydoobiesxx7007
      @xscoobydoobiesxx7007 4 роки тому +3

      I THOUGHT THAT WAS HIM. HES LIVE RN

    • @somewhataddicted7685
      @somewhataddicted7685 4 роки тому +1

      @@xscoobydoobiesxx7007 lmao he banned me when I called him out for being return of wilderness

    • @livewire6009
      @livewire6009 3 роки тому

      now he's Runescape 2021

  • @BEPownz
    @BEPownz 8 років тому +9

    YOU CAN HEAR THE DECEITFUL COERCION IN HIS VOICE!! WHY MAN WHY

  • @ringraa
    @ringraa 8 років тому +18

    3:04:00 is where the juicy part begins (before that they scammed aprox 1.5b)

  • @ParkingMeterRS
    @ParkingMeterRS 8 років тому +18

    Great job exposing him! sorry for your loss.

  • @jessesr3680
    @jessesr3680 8 років тому +73

    But you can call your local authorities, and they'll forward it to your government authorities. This is a international crime

    • @Panjabijs
      @Panjabijs 8 років тому +1

      What should I do he scammed me 30m we talked on skype he has my Skype rsn email help please what do I do

    • @Panjabijs
      @Panjabijs 8 років тому

      +bloodhoun what do I say

    • @jessesr3680
      @jessesr3680 8 років тому

      Explain what happened and give as much detail as possible

    • @footballislife6209
      @footballislife6209 8 років тому +3

      LOL

    • @jessesr3680
      @jessesr3680 8 років тому +6

      Deus Oh sorry, almost didn't notice you there,, and your little friend "football is life". Ya both seem like great little commenters. When you grow up and know what i'm talking about, please come reply

  • @DushaneB
    @DushaneB 2 місяці тому +1

    Almost 8 years later and this video remains a beautiful case study on psychology and manipulation

  • @nunuknowstheway6710
    @nunuknowstheway6710 8 років тому +12

    Man watching this its absolutely truly disgusting to the highest degree i really feel for you Michael. You know what i don't even know you but i've been merching a lot myself lately and i'm more than happy to give you some money back to get you started again cause this is just so unfair.

    • @bananaapple888
      @bananaapple888 8 років тому +2

      he still has over 3b, compared to me and many average playera with under 500m bank that is alot, but i still feel bad af seein how he got manipulated like that into giving away 2b

    • @bananaapple888
      @bananaapple888 8 років тому +1

      +banana apple btw how big of a mercher are you? and do u have any tips for a new mercher like me? currently i have around 150m invested in 2 items in bulk, if they go up im expecting like 60-80m profit which i hope i get soon

    • @xiChewy
      @xiChewy 8 років тому +1

      In situations like this.. Y cant jagex jus generate the loss for him? Itd really take like 1 minute..

    • @matthewmaltzoff8684
      @matthewmaltzoff8684 8 років тому +1

      i agree, or just take the money back from row acc

  • @bakrikilan
    @bakrikilan 8 років тому +4

    feel so bad for you, sound so nice and calm man, respect for not freaking out too. defo subbing

  • @koi2uso
    @koi2uso 8 років тому +7

    "believe me when I say this"

  • @ineedmymodfixed
    @ineedmymodfixed 6 років тому +13

    "Those items just give them to me. Just do it. Just do it." Why would you even still be listening to this guy? He's constantly going back and forth to the GE every time you give him more items. He's selling your stuff right in front of you for gold to RWT it and you keep going back to give him more.

    • @biigsmokee
      @biigsmokee 3 роки тому +1

      "How do you feel about this" 5x before he even clicks "Accept" on the first trade lmao, also inviting random friends with him as part of the scam
      Also never trust a scouser

  • @ljrz2630
    @ljrz2630 8 років тому +30

    This can genuinely be reported to the police. Please do it. You have enough evidence.

  • @dippinoutfool4977
    @dippinoutfool4977 8 років тому +6

    hes said how do you feel, "i feel pretty good kinda like im being scammed" haha

  • @SamToshi
    @SamToshi 8 років тому +7

    This is the most painful thing I have ever watched...

  • @Xnate13X
    @Xnate13X 8 років тому +7

    I feel bad for you man. I got scammed by a friend of one year back in 2012 for my ely and some other gear back in RS2 which was roughly 200m. Two months later I got scammed for 1b from another friend and on release of OSRS (Within the first few weeks/month-ish) I got hacked for my 18m (Which was a LOT, worth about 1b RS3 at the time) I had from merching / 99 cook leader boards when I never had a problem ever before with any of my account's security since starting in 04. This past March my skiller got banned for ' Macro Major' when I NEVER botted EVER, Jagex support is garbage, they ignored my emails and multiple tickets so I quit before putting even more time into the game on my other accounts and those get banned for some false allegations too... I supported Jagex for so many years, but I no longer do. I watch some RS videos when they pop up on UA-cam and somehow got to your video from watching Leafyishere, haha. I laid in bed and listened/watched the whole thing. I feel so bad for you man. You sound like a great guy, some people are evil and mean and he used his name to trick you into trusting him. I feel bad but I'm sure you learned the same lesson I learned when I trusted a couple of my friends back then. I used to trust everyone, I now have major trust issues when it comes to money/security, I can't even pay my college bills over the phone or internet or even mail them a check, I have to go in person and bring cash and make sure I get a receipt. I've been scammed irl for hundreds of dollars too. I just have been so extorted it's terrible. I know it's just a game, but you earned it the right way, they're just lying and scamming you for easy wealth which they'll just sell for cash anyways. I felt so bad watching this. :( If you continue with the game, good luck rebuilding man, and never trust anyone unless you know them in person.

    • @Xnate13X
      @Xnate13X 8 років тому +2

      No, actually you don't. I never was hacked once before until then and it's not even my fault. I had all the security and yet they still got me. I never go to risky websites and always was on top of my computers security. OSRS didn't have an authentication back then, it was just Jagex account Guardian (JAG) from RS2 that only worked for your RS2 account. How they got my account amazes me. I got my account locked within about 10hrs or so from getting hacked but I was buying sharks/selling cooked while getting 99 before logging out so my entire bank was in my inventory. I got hacked at 98 cooking while on leader boards. & Getting scammed by friends you had for a year or so is pathetic. I lent them things multiple times and they always gave it back, they just decided one time that the items were worh more to them than a friendship. It's whatever, I'm done with the game, Jagex banning my skiller for no reason put me over the edge. I never botted it, you can say whatever you want, you're just thick-headed. I always believed people would lie about that too for all my years playing, and most people did, but I feel for the people like me that got falsely banned while people like you, just constantly say they botted as I used to say until that happened to me. I don't think there's anyone that plays rs that was more against botting than I was. I worked hard on all of my accounts and I it angered me to hear about friends botting or people I meet that admit it. Especially when I reported a guy every day for a month that botted his entire account stats up and NEVER got banned at all, yet I do nothing wrong and my skiller got banned. lol, it's just another story of my nothing ever goes my way, life. lol, Good day though, enjoy the game :)

    • @evilcism
      @evilcism 7 років тому +1

      How do you get scammed alot? Do you have asperger's? Dumbass

    • @bluefarmerosrs9721
      @bluefarmerosrs9721 6 років тому

      What got you is the porn and botting if you get banned for botting you are botting lol. If you weren't botting they would check it out and unban you. So many people said the same garbage on reddit and jmods come over and basically rip them a new one because they tell everyone on reddit that you were indeed botting.

  • @Pwug
    @Pwug 8 років тому +4

    I'm so sorry for you dude, never seen anything like this I hope things work out for you in future, these guys are the most pathetic human beings I've ever seen in my life

  • @joecasale9949
    @joecasale9949 8 років тому +3

    That ending, call the fucking cops that is unbelievably illegal

  • @zimbabwe7433
    @zimbabwe7433 8 років тому +5

    that's actually pretty pathetic i'm glad you uploaded to aware people you probably help many people to not get scammed by him :)

  • @LikeTheSauce
    @LikeTheSauce 8 років тому +131

    If you trust ROW, you honestly deserve it.

    • @SockLove
      @SockLove 8 років тому +3

      pretty much. i mean, he as a story of scamming people, even his fan base over and over and over again. ofc he deserved it

    • @bambustuff
      @bambustuff 8 років тому +1

      lmao ofc you watch this

    • @bambustuff
      @bambustuff 8 років тому

      justin lee stfu kid

  • @klklk5231
    @klklk5231 8 років тому +3

    "You're such a cool guy Michael just... be cooler"

    • @troy8423
      @troy8423 5 років тому

      I read this exactly as he said this

  • @BeliakYT
    @BeliakYT Місяць тому +1

    It's amazing how michael goes from "I'm absolutely not giving you a penny more than 100m" to accepting 450m trades. To everyone saying Michael is stupid, or that this could never happen to you, RoW used incredibly clever and powerful social engineering techniques. By constantly guilting Michael that he is going to ruin the video, transitioning back and forth between the other person on the call, and dangling the items Michael already traded to him over his head like a carrot on a stick, even though poor Michael was feeling sick as hell, and knew that RoW was probably up to no good, he thought the only way to get his stuff back was to comply with his demands.
    Also, saying things like, "just put them up in the trade so we can see the value, I'm not going to make you accept" followed by, "lets go to the second trade screen, don't click accept though!" then "what I need you to do, is to pick a number, accept this trade, then quickly trade me 2 seconds after..." is very clever because he is breaking Michael down step by step. Getting someone to move forward one step of something they dont want to do, is much easier than moving forward with an entire trade all at once.
    RoW constantly talked about how little the money was relative to his total wealth, when in reality, he was probably freaking out off mic. Those periods where he is silent after the trades, especially the big 400m+ ones, you know he is just screaming and jumping up and down off mic.
    Moral of the story here, ABSOLUTELY DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE SOCIAL ENGINEERING. Paul, AKA Returnofwilderness, AKA Runescape2024 is massive scumbag, asshole, narcissist, (hell he has probably watched this very video many times to relive his high) but he is also quite clever. Some scammers (and also lurers) are incredibly creative and skilled at getting people to hand over their hard earned funds. DO NOT GIVE THEM THE TIME OF DAY, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET ONE OVER ON THEM, THIS IS WHAT THEY DO ALL DAY.
    Thank you Michael for posting this, and to help spread awareness. So sorry this happened to you.

  • @razer0072073
    @razer0072073 8 років тому +17

    1:17:36 Wildy got caught selling lol

    • @Iheartdgd
      @Iheartdgd 4 роки тому

      Omfg I’m dying lmao

  • @davidovischo1
    @davidovischo1 7 років тому +8

    You deserve a free lifetime of membership on all of your accounts for the work you have done for the community of Runescape. Anyone of us would have acted the same way you did. People can easily say they wouldn't but I have been in the same position as you, it's just the way we work as humans. You are a great guy Micheal and I wish Jagex would acknowledge what you have done for us as a community by getting him banned and going through this for us. Thanks!

    • @TheElitenoble
      @TheElitenoble 6 років тому

      nigga I wouldnt trust my own son with 10m, fuck u mean everyone would do this???

    • @claudevandeligh3986
      @claudevandeligh3986 3 роки тому

      This is dumb, he doesnt need you to lie to him to make him feel better. No the vast majority of people would not do this. You and Micheal rs are a small minority. The scammers strike gold when they find someone like you. Micheal rs learned from this and probably wouldnt do it again. Seems like you didnt.

  • @pkallday247
    @pkallday247 4 роки тому +5

    honestly this shit is a movie.

  • @Jordcv
    @Jordcv 3 роки тому +8

    Mate never trust anyone with any sort of scouse accent especially, in this situation. That ROW guy is definately from my area and by all means im not branding my area as untrustworthy, but in this situation, no thanks. In all honesty, i cant even believe you carried on, they were literally shopping through your bank, it's embarrassing.

  • @Marshallizar
    @Marshallizar 8 років тому +8

    This went horribly awry pretty quickly lol... this guy will never change... all his recent videos are his new attempt at trying to camouflage the truth

    • @radomirkarapandza8317
      @radomirkarapandza8317 8 років тому

      exactly. he uses these types of tactical videos to coerce and encorage people to trade him money so that he can supposedly double them. also if this guy watches ROW since 2012 then how come he doesn't know Ryan Woolley lol?

    • @radomirkarapandza8317
      @radomirkarapandza8317 8 років тому

      its startling to see the depths of his depravity. the fact that people like these vermins/chavs coexist with us is a surreal nightmare of nightmares. this vid presents an interesting indictment of our Society. you can tell that these scummy reprobates did not grow up in a very nurturing and altruistic household, that's why they nosh on the misery and insecurities of others. I spoke to one of their friends (Dexter) and he told me the exact same thing. Selfishness, egotism and narcissism are on full display in this video. he appears to relish being the center of attention. he continues playing games at other's expense. it wont stop until someone decides to ACTUALLY take it seriously

    • @salemaqill
      @salemaqill 8 років тому

      I cant believe people are still fooled by the illusion that they'll get something in return, let alone from this KID. But I think this Michael guy had his own reasons.

    • @radomirkarapandza8317
      @radomirkarapandza8317 8 років тому

      +Meteoromancer Usually the people that are subject to being scammed are incredibly susceptible and nice, so they take advantage of that kindness... He didn't show adroit planning. And whatever his plan was it backfired pretty badly

  • @jonathanmata-mohamed1787
    @jonathanmata-mohamed1787 7 років тому +18

    Listen to me Michael, I want you to get 500m for me

    • @imshzx
      @imshzx 6 місяців тому

      He believed everything dumbass you can trust no one and you hear it in rwd he’s voice 😂😂😂

  • @Piinkham
    @Piinkham 8 років тому +6

    Damn watching this I feel like I was scammed real life money lol..

  • @aPureProject
    @aPureProject 8 років тому +4

    Oh my god its so cringeworthy the way they go about this scam. How can someone fall for that

  • @FaZeSubsonic
    @FaZeSubsonic 8 років тому +5

    Blackmail/extortion , irl threats these guys can seriously be jailed. Do yourself a favour Michael and take this to the authorities . These guys are absolute scumbags they will look at a maximum of 10 years.

  • @jordan78963
    @jordan78963 8 років тому +12

    Why not setup a lawsuit against those bullies?

  • @afghanrebel
    @afghanrebel 8 років тому +3

    the guy with him, must have done phone scamming.

  • @seasaw40
    @seasaw40 8 років тому +2

    Threatened to SWAT and basically held this man hostage. Even said he would send a bomb to his house. Sue these men

  • @y0Jamzy
    @y0Jamzy 8 років тому +9

    Lmao Ryan Woolley was the main guy doing all this to you (Brian)

  • @NoobiMeh
    @NoobiMeh 8 років тому +1

    you can tell by the way he speaks hes a big scam artist, speaking really calm and relaxed to sound trusting and inviting

  • @ChunkRs
    @ChunkRs 8 років тому +21

    getting scammed on purpose so u can make a youtube video about it, wish i knew these sick tactics before i started making videos

    • @hoxayyyfin2188
      @hoxayyyfin2188 8 років тому

      LUL

    • @ChunkRs
      @ChunkRs 8 років тому +1

      Brian Sunderman im trolling, but if you choose to be triggered i guess i cant stop you

  • @CryOverdage
    @CryOverdage 8 років тому +2

    the 2 scammers getting really mad at the end and threatening with SWAT team. how desperate are those guys getting for not succesfully rubbing someone ?
    They failed so hard, they get mad so hard. damn

  • @MrKaywe
    @MrKaywe 8 років тому +5

    I hope that you take this case further.
    Btw, if anyone else didn't know the guy in the skype called "Bryan" is actually not Bryan.
    His name is Ryan Wolley, if you knew RoW like i do back in the day he used to do scam videos with him. You said that you watched his videos for a long time and i'm actually suprised that you didn't recognize him. He has deleted all his videos on youtube but this is his real name because he did runescape videos with RoW back in the day and also did streams with him.
    Take care.

  • @PortlandMan
    @PortlandMan 3 роки тому +2

    5 year anniversary of this today lol.

  • @supfish4910
    @supfish4910 7 років тому +12

    wtf He wasn't even trying he just sounded hungry this whole Vid. how could you trade all your stuff for this?

  • @Fireballs00
    @Fireballs00 8 років тому +2

    You seem like such a genuinely nice guy too, feel really bad.

  • @XenonLegend
    @XenonLegend 8 років тому +15

    Damn I feel bad for you, you sound like a very nice guy, have fun with your UA-cam!

  • @MrJohnMarbles
    @MrJohnMarbles 8 років тому +2

    Thank you for putting up with this idiot so you could expose him. We all really appreciate it. Cheers man, hopefully see you in game sometime. Good luck and have fun!

    • @MrJohnMarbles
      @MrJohnMarbles 8 років тому +1

      Crazy how he cuts you off saying "blah blah blah blah". Really pulling out those attempts at psychological warfare. Bizarre. Later he says "michael, youre so cool" roflmao

  • @Stokez
    @Stokez 8 років тому +1

    This is crazy man. Subbing up cause you're taking this better than anyone else i could imagine lol

  • @wallies2692
    @wallies2692 8 років тому +5

    1:39:37 "Dox your Nan has logged in."

  • @yamitony8257
    @yamitony8257 8 років тому +3

    it got real at the end...take some legal action michael these guys deserve to be locked up

  • @surrakasurovec3641
    @surrakasurovec3641 3 роки тому +2

    I remember when RoW used to make pk videos. Pretty sure his very first vid had cky 95 quite bitter things as the opener. I was even friends w the dude in game. Probably a decade and some change ago tho.

  • @serialchiler
    @serialchiler 8 років тому +5

    i watched the whole video, i officially have no life

  • @DarkWorldOrder
    @DarkWorldOrder 8 років тому +2

    this is so fucking evil. this needs to go big and everyone needs to know about this

  • @Disax
    @Disax 8 років тому +12

    Wow, they needed 3h to dox you, such pros.

    • @Disax
      @Disax 8 років тому +4

      omg that guy rlly pissed me off, wannabe hacker

    • @MichaelMeyerRS
      @MichaelMeyerRS  8 років тому +9

      fake dox me read description

  • @ChaddeusThaddeus
    @ChaddeusThaddeus 3 роки тому +6

    Michael trust me, give me your debit card number it will be the best thing you've ever done just wait and see

  • @mattferre05
    @mattferre05 3 роки тому +2

    Idk why but I cant stop watching this video. These guys are fucked up. Wish you all the best Michael

  • @Gimtakashi
    @Gimtakashi 8 років тому +39

    can you upload the full version? this one seems shortened

    • @Duhpression
      @Duhpression 8 років тому +9

      ?????? its 3 hours l0l

    • @Gimtakashi
      @Gimtakashi 8 років тому +9

      +Duhpression ya I just felt like this one was shortened and if it were longer by a couple hours it would've clarified the missing blanks

  • @barres5584
    @barres5584 4 роки тому +1

    I just got scammed all my IRL money and all my OSRS bank by a similar scam. I lost my faith in humanity tonight.

    • @guser436
      @guser436 4 роки тому

      irl money?

    • @austiniscoolduh
      @austiniscoolduh 3 роки тому

      Never trust people online. Especially if it involves money. Hell, don’t trust too many people irl too

    • @barres5584
      @barres5584 3 роки тому +1

      @@austiniscoolduh I dont trust people anymore

    • @PortlandMan
      @PortlandMan 3 роки тому

      @@barres5584 How the hell did you manage to lose all your real money too??

  • @ringraa
    @ringraa 8 років тому +6

    ik you might think it's overkill but they've broken the law by extorting you and you could report them, which is what they deserve.

  • @gurreg1524
    @gurreg1524 3 роки тому +1

    Just sad how those manchildren sit and laugh with no remorse. You can tell how nice they act to get what they want, but when they dont they become aggressive. Watched the full video. Amazed me how people can be so heartless and evil towards such a nice guy as Michael.

    • @PortlandMan
      @PortlandMan 3 роки тому +1

      They're psychopaths who prey on the weak.

    • @realisticeyeball
      @realisticeyeball 2 роки тому

      @@PortlandMan i would say sociopaths not psychopaths but yeah human shit nonetheless

  • @pker4eva
    @pker4eva 8 років тому +3

    ugh I really hope he gets what he deserves, I feel for ya dude

  • @theoldschoolway5562
    @theoldschoolway5562 3 роки тому +1

    I feel for you dude! you seem really nice. Listen to the way they are speaking, dirty script. If people speak to you like this guarantee they are trying to only benefit themselves. Constant reaffirmation of feelings and encouragement to say yes!
    When one contradicts themselves, lose trust in what they're saying.
    When one avoids exact details, push on them for details and watch them quiver.
    When one claims to know everything and just agrees with what you're saying hollowly while pushing you back on their Track, YOU'RE BEING PLAYED!
    At least your follower base has grown :)

  • @johbro95
    @johbro95 4 роки тому +5

    Nightwalker taking 3 long hours to recover an email address and then talks about hacking into the dude’s PC lmfao.

    • @psixi7230
      @psixi7230 4 роки тому

      LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

  • @MrSanctuarys
    @MrSanctuarys 3 роки тому +2

    Man, these dudes were pushing him so hard for the money. They think they are so slick.

  • @ethanp4599
    @ethanp4599 8 років тому +10

    The mind games. Clever RoW.

  • @fifamagic
    @fifamagic 8 років тому +1

    You should keep us updated about what happens about this.. Seen a lot of people talking about this, seen a few videos too. All the best

  • @hoodout16
    @hoodout16 8 років тому +3

    Around 2:52:16
    "It will blow your channel up"
    He wasn't lying.

  • @KiwiProductionz313
    @KiwiProductionz313 Місяць тому

    Sorry this happened to you seem like a really nice guy hope bad karma comes to the losers that scammed you and that you still play, also this smelt fishy from the start

  • @lfc011
    @lfc011 7 років тому +8

    just press accept

  • @vtgaming9204
    @vtgaming9204 8 років тому +1

    That ending where they made him give them that 500m was just fucking sad man..

  • @skywatters1
    @skywatters1 4 роки тому +3

    Did anything ever happen with the authorities? I hope you’ve built up your wealth again man. Makes me sick to my stomach

    • @MichaelMeyerRS
      @MichaelMeyerRS  4 роки тому +1

      Na autorities don't care about virtual currencyies, they don't even understand bitcoin. LOL

    • @skywatters1
      @skywatters1 4 роки тому +2

      Michael RS I’m just shocked they threatened you with a bomb and nothing can be done.

  • @HawxHunter
    @HawxHunter 8 років тому +1

    'I have to use a virtual machine so its really slow,' lmao these knobs

  • @Tisilify
    @Tisilify 4 роки тому +3

    3:08:30 his mum comes in to his room, YIKEEESSS!!!!

  • @oliverforsythe5111
    @oliverforsythe5111 8 років тому +2

    Is everything okay now? Can't believe what I just watched

  • @backuprubbish7501
    @backuprubbish7501 3 роки тому +6

    This needs to be reported to the police mate. The guy at the end... casually threatening you and going through your personal information is quite concerning. If you can report this to the police there will be guaranteed ways he can be caught and charged. Just because he's using a VM (Virtual Machine) it doesn't mean his IP or address is masked. I'd definitely take this further if I were you. People should face the consequences of their actions, this shouldn't be allowed.

  • @Tsumibito101
    @Tsumibito101 3 роки тому +1

    This was hard to watch. Can't believe this dude was trusted by the community enough to pull this on o.g players

  • @imh0rnyyourn0t
    @imh0rnyyourn0t 7 років тому +3

    been watching this video while afking ingame, at 1 hour in now. just wondering how did you not pick up on the pure rudeness of them? was that not obvious enough to you that it was a scam? they completely stopped talking about the 'video' and are just making you liquidate your bank and you're doing as they say, paul even says 'you can make this hard on yourself and wake up with all your accounts cleaned' is it because you're from a foreign country so don't pick up the tone they're using? interested to hear back from your point of view on this. will continue watching this video. it's sickening me that they can do this to somebody. i hope you've made this money back, and that they didn't gain from this video at all.

  • @CJD8982
    @CJD8982 8 років тому +1

    The third dude sounds like irish kermit the frog