Bad idea. I almost got killed while forcing a door using that method. The forks broke apart and came back to smack me in the face. Pushed my jaw into the back of my mouth.
@@BigChungus1105 you broke the forks on a drop forged one piece pro bar? Or a halligan made by a different manufacturer where the forks are pinned? We’ve subjected the original pro bar to 6800lbs of force and the forks bent long before they snapped off, which is the benefit of the one piece forging process. Whereas with a 3 piece pinned halligan (paratech) snapped at a mere 450lbs of force and sent the entire fork assembly flying like you described. Either way, I hope you recovered from your injury brother, and I’d like to know more about the circumstances/tools involved to gain a better understanding and knowledge. Thank you sir.
It seems like one of the goals with forcing a drop bar to fail is in bending the brackets extending from the door. I've watched a few videos, and in a lot of cases the bracket bent outward enough for the system to fail before the drop bar failed. Once a bracket bends outward, there is far less mechanical force holding that bar in place, so a halligan or cheater bar can be slipped into the gap and used as a hammer to knock the bar up and out of place.
Very lucky for the entry teams that the doors used a j-hook design for the retaining bar rather than a full C that is welded top and bottom and the bar slides through. Also, very much would be worse if angle iron or thick wall tubing was used rather than flatbar.
First off: These guys know a lot more than you do about forcing doors. Second: Cutting hinges in this case would do exactly jack. Metal drop bar in the back would have held door in place. Also it's a pretty heavy door. I wouldn't want to deal with it being loose from its hinges.
@@graememacleod4651 Cutting hinges would have been much faster than messing with the metal fitment plate. Remember that im talking about the second door rather than the first.
You know it would be so funny if you made a tool that would drill through the doorwhen you have a hug that went through the whole you drill and you didn't you fish the wooden part that hold the door closed up
Excellent series - thanks for your efforts in putting them all together.
nice video . marrying the Halligan tools together fork to fork also works nicely when extra leverage is needed
Bad idea. I almost got killed while forcing a door using that method. The forks broke apart and came back to smack me in the face. Pushed my jaw into the back of my mouth.
@@BigChungus1105 just like doubling up wrenches, you have a good chance of hurting yourself when the work comes loose
@@BigChungus1105 you broke the forks on a drop forged one piece pro bar? Or a halligan made by a different manufacturer where the forks are pinned? We’ve subjected the original pro bar to 6800lbs of force and the forks bent long before they snapped off, which is the benefit of the one piece forging process. Whereas with a 3 piece pinned halligan (paratech) snapped at a mere 450lbs of force and sent the entire fork assembly flying like you described. Either way, I hope you recovered from your injury brother, and I’d like to know more about the circumstances/tools involved to gain a better understanding and knowledge. Thank you sir.
@@DanEvan The fork didn't physically break, the forks were married together and under load they disconnected.
Holy shit the door in the beginning... That door was laughing at you, and so was i until you guys unleashed your badassery upon it.
An outtake at the end would be fun to see
You guys are rock stars of forcible entry!
Good teamwork wedging that progress right away with the axe
I'm not a firefighter, I just like watching them open shit. Kinda want to become a firefighter now though
It seems like one of the goals with forcing a drop bar to fail is in bending the brackets extending from the door. I've watched a few videos, and in a lot of cases the bracket bent outward enough for the system to fail before the drop bar failed. Once a bracket bends outward, there is far less mechanical force holding that bar in place, so a halligan or cheater bar can be slipped into the gap and used as a hammer to knock the bar up and out of place.
Nice one fellas. We were messing with hook/halligan combo just the other day.
cool vid i like the end guy in the shopping cart
Very lucky for the entry teams that the doors used a j-hook design for the retaining bar rather than a full C that is welded top and bottom and the bar slides through.
Also, very much would be worse if angle iron or thick wall tubing was used rather than flatbar.
Great videos.
Moments and torques, moments and torques.
When are firefighter having to get through doors like that? I've never seen doors locked like that.
Commercial buildings.
@@glock22shooter Yeah, I've never seen that.
They're never fun. I deal with 1 building like that a year, maybe 2. But i'm in an 85% residential area.
7:17 Basically do this but spike through the door.
3:00 Cut-able external hinges.
This one was tough to watch.
First off: These guys know a lot more than you do about forcing doors.
Second: Cutting hinges in this case would do exactly jack. Metal drop bar in the back would have held door in place. Also it's a pretty heavy door. I wouldn't want to deal with it being loose from its hinges.
You can’t control air flow if you have a door off it’s hinges
@@graememacleod4651 Cutting hinges would have been much faster than messing with the metal fitment plate. Remember that im talking about the second door rather than the first.
@@romeroadrian7312 Doors fit into door frames. #LeanItUp
Wait a second… your telling me additional leverage works!
8:44 No force cant you read?
i died after they got that first door open lamo
why didnt you just go through the dog door at the bottom? just sayin!!!!!!
You know it would be so funny if you made a tool that would drill through the doorwhen you have a hug that went through the whole you drill and you didn't you fish the wooden part that hold the door closed up
Great vid. Thanks.