can't believe after all this time they still haven't improved the look and feel of the black holes in the game. Especially sagittarius a* its not as calm there...
They would probably have to model some sort of accretion disks into them and that'd be pretty tricky. Either that or they don't want to devote the dev time to doing so.
still looks impressive, but just not as impressive as Gargantua. but yeah from what ive seen black holes are highly unfinished, which is stopping me from buying this game yet. pulsars look fucking sweet tho
its because you cant see the ship entering the black hole because light does not bounce off the ship once it crosses the event horison because light cant escape the gravitational pull of a black hole once it passes through the event horizon
Spent a good part of my initial time in the game paranoid about crashing into celestial bodies, but it turns out the game just doesn't let you. Sort of ruins the tension.
@@tabularasa0606 To be fair, that's more just a slight oversight due to the way interdictions work. Whenever you are interdicted, you retain the speed of however fast you were going upon interdiction, so if you fly into a body at a fast enough speed, you can be outside the emergency drop zone on one frame, and have travelled fast and far enough on the next frame to be inside the object and for the game to recognize you're within the emergency exclusion drop-out zone. Usually at that point the game realizes somethings gone fucky, you're in a place you're not supposed to be, and it will boot you to menu and have you start back up in a proper area.
Well here’s the thing. In physics any sufficiently fast enough particle will just go through an object without disturbing it. For barionic matter it would be a speed of more than Lightspeed. Since faster than light travel is possible in the game, you technically would just phase though an object if you were to crash into it. So neither you nor the object could experience any disturbances
Plot twist: Your mind actually started visualizing like nothing happened when in reality the ship and your body got torn apart and your mind and consciousness it's only what's left from you.
Landing on the sun station was genuinely one of the most intense and rewarding experiences I've had with a video game. Outer Wilds generally is just my favourite game of all time :) Btw if you've seen Interstellar you'll like this ua-cam.com/video/d9cUw-f1kUo/v-deo.html
I wish they would update the visuals for black holes. Specially this monster. Edit: I understand some of you feel this is realistic but it would be nice for some creative licence here. It would just be nice to have a planet or some other stars in system to give a sense of awe and scale.
they should do it in the new game, where the whacky stuff that they say happens in real black holes on like Cosmos and shi where you can like see yourself in front of you, is actually in game.
@@jonnyj. the only thing you could do is add accretion disks, because since no one can actually see black holes there's no way to know what they SHOULD look like. So in reality y'all are just upset they're not visually interesting like interstellars gargantua. Frankly, I say leave them as they are, theres nothing wrong with how they're portrayed, as any opinion on what they should look like is just that an opinion.
@@thedarkness125 they're practically impossible to spot with telescopes, but not invisible. If you were near a black hole you could see it, not just the lensing effects.
Despite the fact one cannot get sucked into it, despite the fact that it just drops you out of supercruise, despite the fact that there is no real danger.... these things STILL scare the ever loving out of me!!!
@@ENGCSHemangVerma Every object with big big mass like a black hole will create spaghettification on your body. But I'm open to learn something new...
@@WofWca It really was far away but it's impossible to actually make a black hole bc we don't know almost anything about them But it's unbelievable how close you can get in Elite... the black hole is in the middle of the galaxy effecting it and.. we can get to a few Ls and nothing happens to a small object like a space ship..
when you crash into something by chance, you lose 3% hull and 10% powerplant. When you do it intentionally at the highest speed possible, towards the heaviest object possible, no damage is noticed. This game is something else..
**gets hit by a small, slow rock pebble while docked** “SHIELDS OFFLINE” “HULL INTEGRITY CRITICAL” “LIFE SUPPORT MALFUNCTION” -the elite dangerous experience
@@kevinflaherty1 Technically, jumping into a large black hole is not as destructive as a small one, you'd die either way but recent studies shows you could possibly cross the event horizon of Sagittarius A without dying, you'd just die further in.
except he didn't ram it, the emergency stop prevented him from getting close enough to do any real damage Although I still would've it better if they didn't stop you and your ship just blew up or got torn apart
I mean, that is actually realistic, going towards something at over the speed of light (which you can do in this game obviously) can have a phenomenon know as, I think it was quantum phasing? Something like that, basically all the matter passes in between the gaps of everything and you phase through the object you just crashed into at 40 bajillion m/s
I mean, this makes sense with how supercruise works. Basically the closer you are to mass the slower you go. And since this is a super massive Blackford you can't go all that fast by the time you hit the exclusion zone, compared to a small planet that doesn't show you down as much.
This is the video which brought me to Elite... Now several hundred hours of gameplay later, Im first to Discover multiple hundreds, probably even thousands of Systems in this Amazing game. Seriously, Thanks you!
Yeah, it's about 40Ls, not 200, for SgrA*. The black hole at the center of M81 is much bigger -- about 700Ls.
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@@watsisname all these calculations are for the classica relativistic limit of speed of light, but he is traveling into it ~17c, therefore the classical event horizon calculations cannot be used, he would have to slow down c.
You, an aspiring spacefaerer with a dream. To see the center of our galaxy up close. To see all highly concentrated stars cluster in the sky while the massive, imposing black hole in the center tears up the lights, pulling and stretching the very tissue of spacetime. You feel an urge for discovery. You want to get close, to fall in the immense power by forces of unnimaginable magnitude. You close in, it is unsettling, but relaxing. You know this is it. And as you get to the point of no return, as your view is covered by nothing but stray photons lost in the abyss, you black out. Slowly, you hear birds, and wind, and the sounds of a carriage, feeling a cold breeze in your skin, you open your eyes and "Hey you... You're finally awake."
Actually u can get closer, not this one ofc, I've been MAIA-B in 19-Aug-2016, a small black hole in Maia system(the alloy one). 24.2 km is the closest distance you can get, then "BODY EXCLUSION ZONE HIT" will pop up in INFO window if u trying to get further, yea its a warning from the GAME, not your in-game ship system lmao. And at this very position, ur ship is like frozen in the middle of the air, you can go anywhere except move forward, despite your thruster is at full speed toward.
It'd be awesome if the devs specifically made sag A black hole a wormhole that takes you back to fed space. As a little interstellar Easter egg kinda thing.
thanks for doing it for me so I don't have to be disappointed I want some interstellar shit to happen, looking through the walls I see my first sidewinder, docked at LHS 3447. very wholesome moment
Sagittarius A is extremely big. With black holes, the bigger the thing is the closer you can get, because the gravitational pull is more spread out. You could effectively dance on the event horizon and come back with enough thrust. With smaller black holes you would get disintegrated way before even approaching the event horizon.
Made it to Sagittarius A* myself, few hours ago. Dropped in 65 ls from exclusion zone and still can hear these sounds while making screenshots. Now would visit Great Annihilator and then head back home
Thanks for the comment. The great annihilator is one of my fav black holes. The lensing on the main black hole in that system I thought was better than sag a cause you can get closer to it.
Sagittarius A is a supermassive black hole, its gravitation pull holds the milky way together. The overwhelming size and power seems to be missed in this game.
Its gravity does not hold our galaxy together, this is a misconception. It acts nothing like the sun in our solar system. While it is certainly extremely massive, it is nowhere near massive enough to affect us in the slightest, we're way too far away. Rather what holds our galaxy together is the mass of every single star and body in it pulling on each other. Sagittarius A* simply formed in the middle of it all
I've been looking at these Black Hole videos for Elite Dangerous, and it slipped my mind that Sagittarius A was the black hole *at the center of the Galaxy.* As soon as you dropped out of hyperspace, I paused, held my phone back, sat back in my seat, and went "Oooooo-ho-ho-hooo nooooo!"
Many people think that getting you to the event horizon would tear you apart / ending with black hole eating you or the remains of you.. that's really not the case.. black holes do not 'eat' things, things just seemingly "stop" at the horizon event and that's just it..😅 that is how BHs work
Couldn't you technically just head towards the black hole and start flying there with just thrusters (turning off the FA in case you run out of fuel)? I mean it might take almost a year (300 days or so at 460m/s at a distance of 40 ls but technically possible.
The PHYSICS of falling into a black hole and its effect afterwards has not been developed yet. Only the 'possibility' has been explored theoretically. It is yet to be proved.
Saying "it is yet to be proved" is a technicality. Everything math-wise checks out, and for those sorts of things we're 99.999% sure that it's true. But since we can't physically go to a black hole, it's labelled "unproven"
@@TheHipOneMusic Hey I like your comment. Just want to request you to check out Black Hole documentary on Netflix where the Nasa scientists and various others are accepting the fact that 'they do not understand the black holes fully yet and specially what actually happens when you go around it or fall into it.' They said 'only mathematically its proven yet, but black holes can't just be studied purely using maths or physics because everytime the equation says something else and the observation through the telescopes shows something else.' So how BH will affect you when you are around them is just based on the assumptions made by scientists using maths, of which even they are not fully confident about. I am not saying they are wrong or right, its just that the assumptions are not certain and cannot be assumed as its true. Please do check the documentaties!
1:18 thats... not how supercruise works... that's not how any warp bubble drive works All your speed is based on a spacetime bubble half-moving, which in ED gets disrupted by gravity and slows down because of it. "Building up speed" with a warp bubble doesn't work, you'll be slowed down depending on how close you are from any gravity well. Which is what happened, at 2:39 you went far enough from the gravitational Soi (sphere of influence) of Source 2 (is that its real name?) to reach 480c but went close enough to the gravitational Soi of Sagittarius that you slowed down, completely removing your built-up acceleration. Point is, with supercruise you don't build up speed to crash into a black hole.
That's cool! It never occurred to me that a black hole might be outlined by the lensing of stars behind it. I kinda feel like that's something I should have realized sooner.
Frame Shift Drives work via some really fuckin weird spacetime distortion, you're effectively concentrating the distortion of your ship's mass in front of you and creating a sort of spacetime bubble around yourself, so stellar bodies, seeing as gravity wells are just spacetime distortions, lower the FSD's effectiveness because your distortion is being distorted itself by the gravity well, hence why you slow down.
Yeah I have this sometimes. It's mainly because of my Megalophobia, sometimes I play Universe sandbox and get SO SO freaked out I have to quit the game and calm down
Wormholes and black holes are completely different things. A wormhole works by making a hole in space and keeping the space from collapsing in on itself by using anti-gravity. A black hole is just a really fucking heavy shit. (or at least, thats how i remember it...) watch this if youre really interested in wormholes : ua-cam.com/video/9P6rdqiybaw/v-deo.html
at least the spaghettification is less severe with a huge black hole compared to the smaller ones so you won't become a noodle as fast. i.e. the differing gravitational pull difference between your feet and your head. Smaller black holes spaghettify well outside their horizon while the bigger ones spaghettify much much closer to the horizon, yea even only within the horizon sometimes. So 'technically' you can get closer to a bigger black hole when considering only that singular aspect of black holes but...it might not change much because of the freaking radiation :/
@@partylizard8343 Yeah! I'm like tell me what it looks like at least from the system that it's in, and from millions of miles away. Sure telescopes can help to a lesser degree, though. Like looking at two objects so far out they both look like dots, but once you are close enough they take real shape and form; a Semi-truck and an Airplane. Tell me what color a bright red car is from 10,000 miles away. Actually tell me its a car and not a small truck, from that distance. The coronavirus is right here, and they don't know anything about it much. GOD First!!! GOD Bless!!! Love All!!!
@@xxGjbbyxx Dude, why do people have to bring God into everything? Can't you just believe in your sky daddy without inflicting it on other people? Neither Coronavirus nor religion has anything to do with what the conversation is about.
@@dec5847 Why do others have to deal with what others do? Why do we have to deal with what others do or say? You called me dude for instance. Why do people that say that always have to say that? Or these comercials and ads all over the place trying to get me to want this or like that? Thanks for being polite. And I'm not pushing anything on anyone. I don't want to push something onto someone else. NOT my (What you call Him),... My GOD's way. When I post it, its like my giving Him what I owe Him (He gave me Life and so more much more), and Love to all of You! Plus I'm a Christian (Christ - ian), trying to live and Love in this World Like Yeshua, demonstrated. GOD First!!! GOD Bless!!! Love All!!!
@@xxGjbbyxx Except I don't always say that. It's a very mild occurrence for me and is far less infuriating than flamboyantly exclaiming that God will love us all. He hasn't loved anybody so far, or we wouldn't have so many terrible things in the world. I'm sorry to say, but the Biblical God CANNOT exist. He is either not all powerful, not all good, or doesn't exist at all.
The fact that Elite never lets you crash into stars by mistake is the stupidest, most counter intuitive, immersion breaking thing in this game. It literally drops my rating for it from 10/10 to 8/10.
I mean it makes sense in universe. The Pilot's Federation (essentially a giant space union with scary amounts of political power that controls many parts about how spacecraft are designed) doesn't want any old schmuck to have a weapon that can travel at 100c.
I had "No Time for Caution" playing in the background, and the timing of the ending coincided with the crashing into the barrier. If you want to try, start the music at 0:50.
First ever BH I encountered was the one at around 5000ly from the bubble and right away I wanted to test what happens if I fly into it (back then I didn't really know much about BH's in elite). My disappointment was more massive than the BH when it was just "bonk" and that's it 😔
Is this how a black hole would be or would it be more like how they did the one in the movie Interstella ? . Better that ,than a big space sphincter ( imo )
The gravitational effect of it is correct, i. bending light and space. We have no idea how it actually looks, so it could be correct. Overall, if you want to know what a scientifically accurate bh looks like, look up the image they made of one last year.
what if you remove the planetary approach suite? i dont know i am new to the game but this module i think is the one that exit you from the super cruise right?
Come on, they did it in Interstellar with nothing but math. I'm sure they could do it here too. Although it would probably mess with the PC to do all the calculations.
I guess it will be awsome if the developers of the game introduce an expansion that allows you to travel to other galaxy due to the concept of the black holes... (please forgive my ignorance). That could be a nice of lot of content to the game, even some that only it's possible on Sci-fi movies, like time travel, parallel dimensions, unknown galaxy with an unknown amount of distance... but... hope that could change in a future
alledgely, there's an artefact at a planet named Raxxla that's supposed to do something like that. it is in a few elite novels, its a popular myth and people are still looking for it devs already confirmed its somewhere ingame, but no one has found it yet
I guess it would probably take years to find out if possible but could you reach it with thrusters after you dropped out of SC? Quick maths here: You dropped out at 39.9 LS 39.9LS = 0.079959153 AU 0.079959153 AU = 11,961,719.03 km If cruise speed is for exmaple 250m/s then 1 km takes 4 seconds 11,961,719.03 x 4 47,846,876.12 seconds 47,846,876.12 / 60 (convert to minutes) = 797,447.93 797,447.93 / 60 (convert to hours) = 13290.79 13290.79 / 24 (conver to days) = 553.78 days Assuming you can travel constantly at 250 m/s you could reach the centre in a little over a years and a half, if you can get your speed up to 500m/s you could half that taking only 276 days. Yeah I guess no one is going to do this any time soon 😀😀
I start to play this game 3 weeks ago because of this vid. Its hard but i learn fast and every hour i played this it goes better and better... I love the music too
Hi, glad I inspired you to try the game! ive been playing for years and still addicted. Yes there is a bit of a learning curve, but stick with it, you will get there :)
I have a question before buying this game is it like an actual space exploration game like I can point my space ship anywhere and go twards a star or nebula
Hi yes it's an open world space sim with a 1:1 size recreation of the milky way galaxy. There are literally billions of star systems to visit and explore. You can also engage in combat, trading, mining etc. Ive been addicted for a long time and would def recommend checking it out.
@@okokokokok9783 no problem. There is a bit of a learning curve at the start but don't let it put you off. Feel free to shout if you have any questions :)
I mean if the spaceship can travel faster than light, it should be able to escape the black hole's event horizon easily right? Because you don't immediately die past the event horizon, especially on a blackhole with the mass of Saggitarius A
The lensing shouldn't change when the camera moves around the ship. It would seem the game is rendering the black hole as small and up close, not at it's true size and distance
You can't crash to Black Hole and notice it. Too close is too much gravity and time is stop to end of universe. Best analogy will be more close you are, more latency you get and less fps.
Does the game have in game Real time dilation? Might be fun to skim the event horizon at orbital range and see if "frame dragging" occurs. Times wimey wibbly wob!
It makes sense to make the black holes in the game this way. We don't no what's inside them and where they lead to, or even if they obey our laws of physics.
can't believe after all this time they still haven't improved the look and feel of the black holes in the game. Especially sagittarius a* its not as calm there...
They would probably have to model some sort of accretion disks into them and that'd be pretty tricky. Either that or they don't want to devote the dev time to doing so.
still looks impressive, but just not as impressive as Gargantua. but yeah from what ive seen black holes are highly unfinished, which is stopping me from buying this game yet. pulsars look fucking sweet tho
its because you cant see the ship entering the black hole because light does not bounce off the ship once it crosses the event horison because light cant escape the gravitational pull of a black hole once it passes through the event horizon
what is?
@@phuturephunk Sag A* is to large to have an accretion disc.
Lmaoooo this was the most dramatic "nothing" I've ever seen
😂😂😂
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Oh you should've been there back in the 80's and the opening of Al Capone's vault.
Lol it's funny how nobody asked your opinion but you still gave one. That was actually pretty epic.
@@cloudseven8258 Lol it's funny how someone doesn't need to be asked to give his opinion to do so, almost like free speech is a thing
2:31 that radar realy likes the beat
Spent a good part of my initial time in the game paranoid about crashing into celestial bodies, but it turns out the game just doesn't let you. Sort of ruins the tension.
You can, if it happens during an interdiction.
@@tabularasa0606 To be fair, that's more just a slight oversight due to the way interdictions work. Whenever you are interdicted, you retain the speed of however fast you were going upon interdiction, so if you fly into a body at a fast enough speed, you can be outside the emergency drop zone on one frame, and have travelled fast and far enough on the next frame to be inside the object and for the game to recognize you're within the emergency exclusion drop-out zone. Usually at that point the game realizes somethings gone fucky, you're in a place you're not supposed to be, and it will boot you to menu and have you start back up in a proper area.
@@handofcreation0
But still possible, at least it was a few months ago. It happened to me once. Haven't been able to repeat it though.
Well here’s the thing. In physics any sufficiently fast enough particle will just go through an object without disturbing it. For barionic matter it would be a speed of more than Lightspeed. Since faster than light travel is possible in the game, you technically would just phase though an object if you were to crash into it. So neither you nor the object could experience any disturbances
@@theakiwar9118 Wait what? How did they destroy the Dreadnaught in The Last Jedi by ramming it in light speed if they would phase through it?
Plot twist: Your mind actually started visualizing like nothing happened when in reality the ship and your body got torn apart and your mind and consciousness it's only what's left from you.
did you watch the movie interstellar? xD
Oh daaamn
at least you'd get to see the end of the universe before you die because time slows down for you.
@@Vilverna thats not how time dilation works....
Or maybe you were just uploaded to the nexus
Elite Dangerous: can't fly into stars
Outer Wilds: you're going to fly into the sun dozens of times
Landing on the sun station was genuinely one of the most intense and rewarding experiences I've had with a video game. Outer Wilds generally is just my favourite game of all time :)
Btw if you've seen Interstellar you'll like this
ua-cam.com/video/d9cUw-f1kUo/v-deo.html
Outer Worlds: flying into the sun because your character is too stupid
hey i noticed your pfp. it's a violation of the geneva convention
@@PoppyGaming43 Join me in war crimes
I wish they would update the visuals for black holes. Specially this monster.
Edit: I understand some of you feel this is realistic but it would be nice for some creative licence here. It would just be nice to have a planet or some other stars in system to give a sense of awe and scale.
they should do it in the new game, where the whacky stuff that they say happens in real black holes on like Cosmos and shi where you can like see yourself in front of you, is actually in game.
Update the visuals for something that technically cant be seen with tge naked eye? The visual for sag A* is the milky way itself.
@@thedarkness125 What the fuck are you talking about? They should really update black hole visuals...
@@jonnyj. the only thing you could do is add accretion disks, because since no one can actually see black holes there's no way to know what they SHOULD look like. So in reality y'all are just upset they're not visually interesting like interstellars gargantua. Frankly, I say leave them as they are, theres nothing wrong with how they're portrayed, as any opinion on what they should look like is just that an opinion.
@@thedarkness125 they're practically impossible to spot with telescopes, but not invisible. If you were near a black hole you could see it, not just the lensing effects.
Space Hero: One Question...
Everyone Else: You traveled a long way to commit suicide.
If it were possible irl that would definitely be how I'd want to go out.
@@darkener3210 you became one with matter........
@@arkvsi8142 I believe you would be confusing me with my brother, Anti Matter.
@Probability Reality well there's string theory
@Probability Reality and time distortion
Despite the fact one cannot get sucked into it, despite the fact that it just drops you out of supercruise, despite the fact that there is no real danger.... these things STILL scare the ever loving out of me!!!
Agreed! I would love fd to do some accretion disk effects tho.
they really should fix this
Did...did you just censor yourself?
stating all these facts science is just best guesss
@@Wiiguyface342 UA-cam deprioritises comments with vulgarisms in them so that was a smart move
Black hole: exists
humans: let's crash into it!
I mean, there is the possibility of time or dimensional travel so, worth the risk
@@seiyaryuuguuin2332 And spaghettification
@@XxKidnoffxX not necessarily
@@ENGCSHemangVerma Every object with big big mass like a black hole will create spaghettification on your body.
But I'm open to learn something new...
Humans logic, let's go in place were we will be dead, and there is no exit
Sagittarius A* the very mother and final destination of our planets and they make it this lame? The hell?
Yeah I know. Should at least have an accretion disk
Should at least be actually black
@@WofWca it is black, hes just too far away to see the actual event horizon
@@MrMegaMetroid Not an expert, but judging by the way gravitational lensing effects look, it must take a significant fraction of the screen.
@@WofWca It really was far away but it's impossible to actually make a black hole bc we don't know almost anything about them
But it's unbelievable how close you can get in Elite... the black hole is in the middle of the galaxy effecting it and.. we can get to a few Ls and nothing happens to a small object like a space ship..
It’s a brave person who tries to crash their ship after such a grind to get there.
Black Holes: exists
This guy: Hi my name is Space Hero and welcome to Jackass
I said this while I was watching it xD
*_"One burning question stands out in my head..._*
*_...Will it blend?"_*
A complete absence of smoke! Don't breathe this!
man u comment made my day, dont hear about this show along time
Yes, it'll blend you into spaghetti
when you crash into something by chance, you lose 3% hull and 10% powerplant. When you do it intentionally at the highest speed possible, towards the heaviest object possible, no damage is noticed.
This game is something else..
**gets hit by a small, slow rock pebble while docked**
“SHIELDS OFFLINE”
“HULL INTEGRITY CRITICAL”
“LIFE SUPPORT MALFUNCTION”
-the elite dangerous experience
@@kevinflaherty1 Technically, jumping into a large black hole is not as destructive as a small one, you'd die either way but recent studies shows you could possibly cross the event horizon of Sagittarius A without dying, you'd just die further in.
except he didn't ram it, the emergency stop prevented him from getting close enough to do any real damage
Although I still would've it better if they didn't stop you and your ship just blew up or got torn apart
I mean, that is actually realistic, going towards something at over the speed of light (which you can do in this game obviously) can have a phenomenon know as, I think it was quantum phasing? Something like that, basically all the matter passes in between the gaps of everything and you phase through the object you just crashed into at 40 bajillion m/s
I mean, this makes sense with how supercruise works. Basically the closer you are to mass the slower you go. And since this is a super massive Blackford you can't go all that fast by the time you hit the exclusion zone, compared to a small planet that doesn't show you down as much.
This is the video which brought me to Elite... Now several hundred hours of gameplay later, Im first to Discover multiple hundreds, probably even thousands of Systems in this Amazing game. Seriously, Thanks you!
Hey thanks for the feedback! Awesome to know it inspired you! Still playing myself. Despite its flaws there's still nothing else like it :)
At the current pace the whole community is exploring new systems, it will take the whole player base about 150000 years to explore the whole milky way
Imagine getting sucked into it and get sent to the unknown.
Except the game characters get sent into our world
Imagine if it was basically a zone line/server switch, and you popped out the other side into an empty universe with different physics...
Fun Fact: Sagittarius A has a Schwarzchild Radius of about 200Ls.
thats alot of matter
According to this calc, it's 40 Ls (Sag A* is 4 million sun masses, right?)
www.vttoth.com/CMS/physics-notes/311-hawking-radiation-calculator
200 times the distance from earth to the moon, pretty small
Yeah, it's about 40Ls, not 200, for SgrA*. The black hole at the center of M81 is much bigger -- about 700Ls.
@@watsisname all these calculations are for the classica relativistic limit of speed of light, but he is traveling into it ~17c, therefore the classical event horizon calculations cannot be used, he would have to slow down c.
Title: crashing into Sagittarius a*
Video: doesn't crash into Sagittarius a*
Clickbait, UnU
this
Disliked it because of it.
soon as he got to the black hole i was waiting for the "we'll be right back" photo to pop up with the music😂😂😂
This is in the running for the most glorious letdown ever. Emphasis on glorious.
I'll take that as a compliment! :)
The most "You Are Not Allowed" moment in space gaming.
and I love it
You, an aspiring spacefaerer with a dream. To see the center of our galaxy up close. To see all highly concentrated stars cluster in the sky while the massive, imposing black hole in the center tears up the lights, pulling and stretching the very tissue of spacetime. You feel an urge for discovery. You want to get close, to fall in the immense power by forces of unnimaginable magnitude. You close in, it is unsettling, but relaxing. You know this is it. And as you get to the point of no return, as your view is covered by nothing but stray photons lost in the abyss, you black out.
Slowly, you hear birds, and wind, and the sounds of a carriage, feeling a cold breeze in your skin, you open your eyes and
"Hey you... You're finally awake."
Actually u can get closer, not this one ofc, I've been MAIA-B in 19-Aug-2016, a small black hole in Maia system(the alloy one).
24.2 km is the closest distance you can get, then "BODY EXCLUSION ZONE HIT" will pop up in INFO window if u trying to get further, yea its a warning from the GAME, not your in-game ship system lmao.
And at this very position, ur ship is like frozen in the middle of the air, you can go anywhere except move forward, despite your thruster is at full speed toward.
It'd be awesome if the devs specifically made sag A black hole a wormhole that takes you back to fed space. As a little interstellar Easter egg kinda thing.
thanks for doing it for me so I don't have to be disappointed
I want some interstellar shit to happen, looking through the walls I see my first sidewinder, docked at LHS 3447. very wholesome moment
Something about Elite Dangerous in specific instills a primal fear of the open space in me. This is harder to watch than any horror content.
In Elite Dangerous, if it's not landable, you'll not gonna crash. And you know that.
With the soundtrack playing at the end approaching the black hole I was like, EPIC....FAIL. D A M N
Tip: Turn off flight assist and nothing will brake ur ship:)
The way Elite dangerous handles FTL travel made that "running start" hilariously pointless
this reminds me of when i just started learning about space... great times
Me: I'm gonna crash into a black hole
Flight computer: stop that.
kinda wish the gravitational lensing was more realistic
Sagittarius A is extremely big. With black holes, the bigger the thing is the closer you can get, because the gravitational pull is more spread out. You could effectively dance on the event horizon and come back with enough thrust. With smaller black holes you would get disintegrated way before even approaching the event horizon.
Should've kept going, if you get too close, it'll burn you up like a star does. I took damage trying to escape it
i cant belive they made this irl
Made it to Sagittarius A* myself, few hours ago. Dropped in 65 ls from exclusion zone and still can hear these sounds while making screenshots. Now would visit Great Annihilator and then head back home
Thanks for the comment. The great annihilator is one of my fav black holes. The lensing on the main black hole in that system I thought was better than sag a cause you can get closer to it.
@@SpaceHero-Elite i hope that it won't mess up my ship
@@bobanfrombangladesh you will be safe enough :)
Sagittarius A is a supermassive black hole, its gravitation pull holds the milky way together. The overwhelming size and power seems to be missed in this game.
Its gravity does not hold our galaxy together, this is a misconception. It acts nothing like the sun in our solar system. While it is certainly extremely massive, it is nowhere near massive enough to affect us in the slightest, we're way too far away.
Rather what holds our galaxy together is the mass of every single star and body in it pulling on each other. Sagittarius A* simply formed in the middle of it all
It doesn't hold the milky way together. Dark matter does.
@@floseatyard8063 I think we don't really know. Dark matter is a theory and not yet proven to be true but yeah that's what we think tho
I've been looking at these Black Hole videos for Elite Dangerous, and it slipped my mind that Sagittarius A was the black hole *at the center of the Galaxy.*
As soon as you dropped out of hyperspace, I paused, held my phone back, sat back in my seat, and went "Oooooo-ho-ho-hooo nooooo!"
Hey, thanks for the comment. :)
All black holes are the center of galaxies
@@ManiacKnight This is not true
@@jeffrey4325 Wrong by a longshot
All galaxies do have super massive black holes at the center of them but not all black holes sit in the center of galaxies
Many people think that getting you to the event horizon would tear you apart / ending with black hole eating you or the remains of you.. that's really not the case.. black holes do not 'eat' things, things just seemingly "stop" at the horizon event and that's just it..😅 that is how BHs work
Couldn't you technically just head towards the black hole and start flying there with just thrusters (turning off the FA in case you run out of fuel)? I mean it might take almost a year (300 days or so at 460m/s at a distance of 40 ls but technically possible.
no unfortunatley you hit a barrier. your ship looks like its still flying, but it doesnt get any closer
The PHYSICS of falling into a black hole and its effect afterwards has not been developed yet. Only the 'possibility' has been explored theoretically. It is yet to be proved.
We know the physics outside the event horizon extremely well. It's inside the event horizon as you approach the singularity we're iffy on
Saying "it is yet to be proved" is a technicality. Everything math-wise checks out, and for those sorts of things we're 99.999% sure that it's true. But since we can't physically go to a black hole, it's labelled "unproven"
@@TheHipOneMusic Hey I like your comment. Just want to request you to check out Black Hole documentary on Netflix where the Nasa scientists and various others are accepting the fact that 'they do not understand the black holes fully yet and specially what actually happens when you go around it or fall into it.' They said 'only mathematically its proven yet, but black holes can't just be studied purely using maths or physics because everytime the equation says something else and the observation through the telescopes shows something else.'
So how BH will affect you when you are around them is just based on the assumptions made by scientists using maths, of which even they are not fully confident about. I am not saying they are wrong or right, its just that the assumptions are not certain and cannot be assumed as its true.
Please do check the documentaties!
That was cool. I’ve been wanting to visit Sagittarius since I began. Thanks for letting me know that it’s totally worth the trip.
I wonder if you could do it in the new supercruise overcharge
Well that was anticlimatic 😂
How did they not implement such an obviously needed gameplay smh
To keep us off the planets.
1:30 100K Ls* from Sagittarius A Star.
Morale of the story : Exclusion zones still exist
1:18 thats... not how supercruise works... that's not how any warp bubble drive works
All your speed is based on a spacetime bubble half-moving, which in ED gets disrupted by gravity and slows down because of it. "Building up speed" with a warp bubble doesn't work, you'll be slowed down depending on how close you are from any gravity well.
Which is what happened, at 2:39 you went far enough from the gravitational Soi (sphere of influence) of Source 2 (is that its real name?) to reach 480c but went close enough to the gravitational Soi of Sagittarius that you slowed down, completely removing your built-up acceleration.
Point is, with supercruise you don't build up speed to crash into a black hole.
That's cool! It never occurred to me that a black hole might be outlined by the lensing of stars behind it. I kinda feel like that's something I should have realized sooner.
I still don't really understand why you slow down as you get close to them. You think you would go faster?
Frame Shift Drives work via some really fuckin weird spacetime distortion, you're effectively concentrating the distortion of your ship's mass in front of you and creating a sort of spacetime bubble around yourself, so stellar bodies, seeing as gravity wells are just spacetime distortions, lower the FSD's effectiveness because your distortion is being distorted itself by the gravity well, hence why you slow down.
TLDR for the above comment;
your FSD creates a form of wormhole, and celestial bodies influences the wormhole, making it less effective.
@@stormblade2510 Not even that bad to read.
Andrew Hall
I know, was just doing TLDR for those who don’t want to read as much
@@stormblade2510 Lol alright
i was too high for that music brada
yoooo im dangerous
you shouldn't play near me
You can die in soo many ways in Elite Dangerous but the game does not want you to crash into celestial objects especially with hyperspeed.
if you manage to go inside, you can find a bookshelf and there is always Hans Zimmer music playing in the background
Am I the only one who gets hella anxiety when I fly next to a black hole? Or speeding past a planet in super cruise and almost hitting it.
yeah man, even knowing it does basically nothing. it's funny how scary elite can be to me even if it's just planets
Yeah I have this sometimes. It's mainly because of my Megalophobia, sometimes I play Universe sandbox and get SO SO freaked out I have to quit the game and calm down
I was so paranoid of crashing into bodies, especially getting close to a black hole, but since the game just doesn't let you it kinda ruined it for me
I wish they took advantage of the ‘lensing’ system when you jump through hyperspace.
As you approach it you gain more speed and then you acceleration increases to light speed then time warp can accrue
honestly i think they should add a secret when (if you could enter the black hole) you end up in the andromeda galaxy
You should of made the screen go black just before you got too close.
Then have it fade into the skyrim "you're finally awake" cutscene
Lol yeah that would have been funny!
I really hope the devs save this one for wormhole travels to Andromeda or something like that....
Wormholes and black holes are completely different things. A wormhole works by making a hole in space and keeping the space from collapsing in on itself by using anti-gravity. A black hole is just a really fucking heavy shit. (or at least, thats how i remember it...) watch this if youre really interested in wormholes :
ua-cam.com/video/9P6rdqiybaw/v-deo.html
@@Orome96 It's a game...
at least the spaghettification is less severe with a huge black hole compared to the smaller ones so you won't become a noodle as fast. i.e. the differing gravitational pull difference between your feet and your head. Smaller black holes spaghettify well outside their horizon while the bigger ones spaghettify much much closer to the horizon, yea even only within the horizon sometimes. So 'technically' you can get closer to a bigger black hole when considering only that singular aspect of black holes but...it might not change much because of the freaking radiation :/
Thanks for taking the chance that all of us wanted to do.
The devs should to make them pitch black. With little rings of light around them. Make them feel more black holey
It's weird that even though no one has ever seen a black hole outside of that one picture, people have ideas of what they look like
@@partylizard8343 Yeah! I'm like tell me what it looks like at least from the system that it's in, and from millions of miles away. Sure telescopes can help to a lesser degree, though. Like looking at two objects so far out they both look like dots, but once you are close enough they take real shape and form; a Semi-truck and an Airplane. Tell me what color a bright red car is from 10,000 miles away. Actually tell me its a car and not a small truck, from that distance.
The coronavirus is right here, and they don't know anything about it much.
GOD First!!!
GOD Bless!!!
Love All!!!
@@xxGjbbyxx Dude, why do people have to bring God into everything? Can't you just believe in your sky daddy without inflicting it on other people? Neither Coronavirus nor religion has anything to do with what the conversation is about.
@@dec5847 Why do others have to deal with what others do? Why do we have to deal with what others do or say? You called me dude for instance. Why do people that say that always have to say that? Or these comercials and ads all over the place trying to get me to want this or like that? Thanks for being polite. And I'm not pushing anything on anyone. I don't want to push something onto someone else. NOT my (What you call Him),... My GOD's way. When I post it, its like my giving Him what I owe Him (He gave me Life and so more much more), and Love to all of You!
Plus I'm a Christian (Christ - ian), trying to live and Love in this World Like Yeshua, demonstrated.
GOD First!!!
GOD Bless!!!
Love All!!!
@@xxGjbbyxx Except I don't always say that. It's a very mild occurrence for me and is far less infuriating than flamboyantly exclaiming that God will love us all. He hasn't loved anybody so far, or we wouldn't have so many terrible things in the world. I'm sorry to say, but the Biblical God CANNOT exist. He is either not all powerful, not all good, or doesn't exist at all.
The fact that Elite never lets you crash into stars by mistake is the stupidest, most counter intuitive, immersion breaking thing in this game. It literally drops my rating for it from 10/10 to 8/10.
I mean it makes sense in universe. The Pilot's Federation (essentially a giant space union with scary amounts of political power that controls many parts about how spacecraft are designed) doesn't want any old schmuck to have a weapon that can travel at 100c.
I had "No Time for Caution" playing in the background, and the timing of the ending coincided with the crashing into the barrier. If you want to try, start the music at 0:50.
Time must just be frozen to the observer. That ship is long gone.
That's a very nice safety feature on your ship.
First ever BH I encountered was the one at around 5000ly from the bubble and right away I wanted to test what happens if I fly into it (back then I didn't really know much about BH's in elite). My disappointment was more massive than the BH when it was just "bonk" and that's it 😔
Ok by far though, the most visually realistic black hole I've seen good job to the devs
Is this how a black hole would be or would it be more like how they did the one in the movie Interstella ? . Better that ,than a big space sphincter ( imo )
The gravitational effect of it is correct, i. bending light and space. We have no idea how it actually looks, so it could be correct. Overall, if you want to know what a scientifically accurate bh looks like, look up the image they made of one last year.
@@jyuppiter4540 www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=black+hole+image&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjAuc_MuKztAhXCiVwKHQ5HANwQjJkEegQIBhAB&biw=1366&bih=637
You used LY when you meant LS (light seconds).
Yeah, this kept giving me mental whiplash.
what if you remove the planetary approach suite? i dont know i am new to the game but this module i think is the one that exit you from the super cruise right?
That module is mandatory in every ship.
Come on, they did it in Interstellar with nothing but math.
I'm sure they could do it here too.
Although it would probably mess with the PC to do all the calculations.
Most of these calculations would be server side.
@@dylanharding5720 Actually you're right.
Same way how Microsoft handles most of the environment in Flight Simulator on their cloud platform.
Was kinda hoping there would be an accretion disc and gravitational anomalies warning from the computer.
Yeah would be awesome if they woukd add at some stage
Well the distance of it was accurate at least. It's size and destructive/creative power was not
Wait i wonder
Can you find the planet called Super saturn or planet 1407b?
The planet with the rings that are 200 times bigger than Saturn?
thats probably the worst and unimpressive black hole i see in all recent game. you can't even take damage from it is a new low i guess.
You can fly straight through the smaller black holes in Elite Dangerous and you'll only get damaged by heat.
I guess it will be awsome if the developers of the game introduce an expansion that allows you to travel to other galaxy due to the concept of the black holes... (please forgive my ignorance). That could be a nice of lot of content to the game, even some that only it's possible on Sci-fi movies, like time travel, parallel dimensions, unknown galaxy with an unknown amount of distance... but... hope that could change in a future
Or the black holes could become white holes on the other side in a different universe.
Black hole its a discrimination, its a Hole.
alledgely, there's an artefact at a planet named Raxxla that's supposed to do something like that.
it is in a few elite novels, its a popular myth and people are still looking for it
devs already confirmed its somewhere ingame, but no one has found it yet
Welp!!!, I'm glad someone did it already. Now I don't have to. Truly though, spaghettification would have been awesome.
I think you might be able to go into it, but it would take crazy long to do that.
Imagine if it somehow would slingshot you like thousands of light years away... Would be quite a trip.
I guess it would probably take years to find out if possible but could you reach it with thrusters after you dropped out of SC? Quick maths here:
You dropped out at 39.9 LS
39.9LS = 0.079959153 AU
0.079959153 AU = 11,961,719.03 km
If cruise speed is for exmaple 250m/s then 1 km takes 4 seconds
11,961,719.03 x 4
47,846,876.12 seconds
47,846,876.12 / 60 (convert to minutes) = 797,447.93
797,447.93 / 60 (convert to hours) = 13290.79
13290.79 / 24 (conver to days) = 553.78 days
Assuming you can travel constantly at 250 m/s you could reach the centre in a little over a years and a half, if you can get your speed up to 500m/s you could half that taking only 276 days. Yeah I guess no one is going to do this any time soon 😀😀
No unfortunately there is a hard limit that the game just won't let you get any closer even outside of SC
I start to play this game 3 weeks ago because of this vid. Its hard but i learn fast and every hour i played this it goes better and better...
I love the music too
Hi, glad I inspired you to try the game! ive been playing for years and still addicted. Yes there is a bit of a learning curve, but stick with it, you will get there :)
I have a question before buying this game is it like an actual space exploration game like I can point my space ship anywhere and go twards a star or nebula
Hi yes it's an open world space sim with a 1:1 size recreation of the milky way galaxy. There are literally billions of star systems to visit and explore. You can also engage in combat, trading, mining etc. Ive been addicted for a long time and would def recommend checking it out.
@@SpaceHero-Elite thank you I got the game
@@okokokokok9783 no problem. There is a bit of a learning curve at the start but don't let it put you off. Feel free to shout if you have any questions :)
@@SpaceHero-Elite alr thank you
@@okokokokok9783 my name on steam is dylanram if u wanna play togetrher
I mean if the spaceship can travel faster than light, it should be able to escape the black hole's event horizon easily right? Because you don't immediately die past the event horizon, especially on a blackhole with the mass of Saggitarius A
I really want the devs to go full scifi and make black holes like worm holes, create white holes and teleport you to one if you enter a black hole.
Too hard
That would be insanely convenient. No more insane amount of jumps to Colonia. Hopefully they add it someday.
The lensing shouldn't change when the camera moves around the ship. It would seem the game is rendering the black hole as small and up close, not at it's true size and distance
I think it'd be awesome if, when you got close, it said THE gravity well. Have you gone back and tried to hit it with an SCO drive?
@@ChadFromSpace no I havnt. But it's basically an invisible wall you can't pass so don't think SCO would be any different
@@SpaceHero-Elite not with that attitude it wouldn't be.... the problem, i believe, stems from not believing hard enough that you can crash into it
darn it, That would've been enough for me to go get this. Thanks for the experience
You can't crash to Black Hole and notice it. Too close is too much gravity and time is stop to end of universe. Best analogy will be more close you are, more latency you get and less fps.
Does the game have in game Real time dilation?
Might be fun to skim the event horizon at orbital range and see if "frame dragging" occurs.
Times wimey wibbly wob!
No unfortunately there is no time dialation
It makes sense to make the black holes in the game this way. We don't no what's inside them and where they lead to, or even if they obey our laws of physics.
I was expecting you to end up in Skyrim
We need an update so we get something like Interstellar once you go in.
Watching this and thinking of the Expanse daredevil crash scene. Too bad it didn’t look like that. GJ CMDR. o7
Not gonna lie, when I visited I was seriously tempted to do the same. But had heard it can damage you and wimped out not wanting to lose my data.
Imagine a ganker sitting there waiting for people to try to crash into it