Building a 2000HP Full BILLET 4 Rotor!

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  • Опубліковано 3 гру 2023
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  • @TreePeople23
    @TreePeople23 6 місяців тому +593

    There is nothing better than working a 10-hour day and coming home to a new Rob Dahm upload. Cheers.

    • @bradfordcustoms7588
      @bradfordcustoms7588 6 місяців тому +3

      69 reactions… nice

    • @juleswhite8692
      @juleswhite8692 6 місяців тому +1

      Holy shit I just did this 😂😂

    • @billyjackson5664
      @billyjackson5664 6 місяців тому

      Lucky, just got off a 16 and have to be back in 8.

    • @NOTaGLI
      @NOTaGLI 6 місяців тому +5

      @@billyjackson5664 you don't have to go back lol

    • @asylumental
      @asylumental 6 місяців тому +7

      Maybe coming home early instead of working 10 hours AND there is a rob Dahm video waiting?
      That seems like it could be better. Lol

  • @aserta
    @aserta 6 місяців тому +183

    Don't use ball bearings, use double acting tapered bearings (one of the bearings and the other regular rollers). More expensive, but they do double work. Regular bearing work and thrust bearing work, from both directions.

    • @first_last01
      @first_last01 6 місяців тому +1

      Bump

    • @AutismusMaximus
      @AutismusMaximus 6 місяців тому +6

      Wouldn't this make it a lot harder to get the clearance of the main thrust bearings right, especially when the engine is hot?

    • @aserta
      @aserta 6 місяців тому +41

      @@AutismusMaximus You put the double acting one at the gearbox, and it's the master for the whole affair, and the rest are roller regulars (not the needle bearings you're usually used to see, but caged roller, maybe something like a Timken N (RIN, RN). No taper. When in play, they have a margin of error (that you can select based on which bearing you choose) that allows for expansion, in the vertical plane (rotation axis). This is how some old double row, radial piston engines had their cranks fixed in place. You should see double screw ones, those were fun to plan out. If they could make such complex shituations work back then, then Rob (with the help of a bearing rep of the company he'll choose) will have no issues. If he asks them, they can even tell him exactly what bearings to use where, down to the composition based on temp, oil, and play found inside his engine.
      Sidenote: When i changed my brother's D10 bearings to better than OEM, SKF sent an engineer over. And while indeed the cost of the bearings might've "accented" that, the dude was more than gracious enough to speak with me a whole day to choose and figure out what's what based on the climate the machine was stuck in, the type of dust found in the fields it worked in and even minutia like how much work time is expected and how much we wanted to get out of those bearings (lifetime).

    • @AutismusMaximus
      @AutismusMaximus 6 місяців тому +2

      @@aserta Got it, thank you for the explanation!

    • @BinaryBlueBull
      @BinaryBlueBull 6 місяців тому +3

      @@aserta I love when I find hidden gems of comments like these under youtube videos. Thank you for the extensive explanation. Fascinating stuff

  • @wistexvlogs8327
    @wistexvlogs8327 6 місяців тому +100

    Ive never clicked on a notification so fast in my life

  • @purerhodium
    @purerhodium 6 місяців тому +159

    That's an insane amount of machining. I don't even want to think of what the cycle time for that one mounting flange at 8:15 was...

    • @Birb_of_Judge
      @Birb_of_Judge 6 місяців тому +8

      ​@@mostlymotorizednot necessarily, these could easily been done on a 5 axis. That would also make porting a lot easier and a lot faster

    • @xaytana
      @xaytana 6 місяців тому

      They likely are 5 axis parts. Just look at the part in question in the original comment, not only do you have the flange itself, but if you trace it's corner down to where the oil passage is, there's a peak between two machined surfaces below the flat of the plate's face; andbeyond this, the inside of that peak (in relation to the part's center) also has some gnarly sculpting on it. This kind of job would take way too many operations and way too much time on a 3 axis machine, at least for any reasonable business model; as a hobbyist or garage shop, sure, but as an actual business producing these at any amount of demand, a 5 axis is a no-brainer investment.
      I wouldn't be surprised if their machining method doesn't mirror Rob's in the beginning. Plane the front and likely hog out the basic shape, drill the perpendicular stud holes, then use those holes as a fixture to do the rest of the machining. Except on a 5 axis you can get to every other face and transition needed to mill the part; and on a part without a lot of coplanar surfaces, a lot of perpendicular surfaces, and a lot of sculpting, this is where 5 axis makes the most sense, just from setup and cycle time alone. Individual tool counts are probably a lot lower as well, one hogging bit, one finishing bit, maybe a set for holes depending on diameter differences, then a typical 60° included angle bit for thread milling, with the only potential additional being a face or shell for quickly planning the few flat surfaces. A good process is highly, highly optimized.

    • @Reptilianoverlord-jc8mt
      @Reptilianoverlord-jc8mt 2 місяці тому

      @@xaytanathese are done on a vertical 3 axis machining center with a 4th axis add on. These billets are from Australia. It’s done on solidcam.

  • @dingus153
    @dingus153 6 місяців тому +131

    Rob Dahm might just be the only bloke outside of Oceania doing Rotarys right. Mate, you NEED to come to Australia 🇦🇺

    • @YoshiBuiltTV
      @YoshiBuiltTV 6 місяців тому +35

      There’s this tiny little island full of Spanish speaking ppl that have the fastest ones 💪🏼

    • @txpate2009
      @txpate2009 6 місяців тому +9

      Misfire Garage is doing some good stuff to

    • @Berm_Blaster
      @Berm_Blaster 6 місяців тому

      What's that shop in straya that has been building badass rotary cars for a long time? I can't think of the name but if i hear/read it I'll know.

    • @huck69
      @huck69 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@@Berm_Blasterpac performance?

    • @joealex65
      @joealex65 6 місяців тому +13

      Yeah let's completely ignore Puerto Rico! 🤣🤣

  • @schilling2438
    @schilling2438 6 місяців тому +40

    I can only imagine what beautiful music this monster will make once it's built.

  • @jiujitsumonkey1
    @jiujitsumonkey1 6 місяців тому +28

    I would love to see a time lapse of these parts being machined, some beautiful work

  • @aserta
    @aserta 6 місяців тому +10

    Multiple people going at this is what we all want. Competition is the mother of innovation, the real one. So BP making those rotors is gonna kick Rob's butt ot make even better.

  • @RowdysGarage
    @RowdysGarage 6 місяців тому +11

    Simon is the best. Love that you guys are working together.

  • @MikeZ32TT
    @MikeZ32TT 6 місяців тому +10

    I love that Hurt is doing the cheap build. This will be fun to watch. Thanks

  • @alabaska182
    @alabaska182 6 місяців тому +14

    It's always a good day when Rob Dahm posts a video.

  • @matthewwalker4384
    @matthewwalker4384 6 місяців тому +11

    You know your an engineer when you call an arrow, a vector

  • @Jon_IT
    @Jon_IT 6 місяців тому +10

    That is the perfect code for the lock and very on brand for Rob to forget it

    • @floodo1
      @floodo1 6 місяців тому +1

      he was genuinely surprised Joel could remember lol classic Rob

  • @Whateverpoopiepants
    @Whateverpoopiepants 6 місяців тому +9

    For plate coating consider going for nikasil, this is used by plenty of motorcycle places.
    Should be accessible.

  • @dongordon2754
    @dongordon2754 6 місяців тому +7

    The water jacket size increasing the weight of the engine would be truly hilarious! Love your work, Rob!

  • @fpbibi
    @fpbibi 6 місяців тому +22

    Just looked at their website. Pretty nice stuff there. Each plate are 4300$ though so I guess it's about 30k$ CAD motor. Maybe more like 40k actually. I like the motor, the sound and all, but I prefer watching you do it! :D

    • @Anon.G
      @Anon.G 6 місяців тому +6

      I feel like 40k isn’t that bad for 2000 horse power

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce 6 місяців тому +7

      it is cheap for what it is... and if you mess up it is less you need to replace unless you mess up big time.

    • @daedalus_20v
      @daedalus_20v 6 місяців тому +20

      @@Anon.G It's definitely on par with big boy LS-based engines at those power levels. Not some guy doing it in his garage with a junkyard block, ebay turbos, and crossed fingers, but a legit 2000hp LS from Borowski, Nelson, SME, etc. is $40k+ all day long.

    • @Anon.G
      @Anon.G 6 місяців тому

      @@daedalus_20v thanks for the info

    • @fpbibi
      @fpbibi 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Anon.Gthat's just the engine. It doesn't make 2000hp NA. Overall it's probably like 60-70k overall on a stand, and that DIY and not even in a car yet. I think Rob can do it but this dude is not regular dude. He has HP in his brain that most people don't have. While inspiring, not realistic for majority of people.

  • @baribari600
    @baribari600 6 місяців тому +16

    I just want my 350-hp two-rotor to be indestructible lol

    • @RedBatRacing
      @RedBatRacing 6 місяців тому +2

      Don't detonate. There, a motor that will last ;)

    • @RadeonMasterRace97
      @RadeonMasterRace97 6 місяців тому

      @@RedBatRacing and @baribari600 And proper lubrication (a good advice for other uses too 😜)

  • @asliceofloaf1984
    @asliceofloaf1984 6 місяців тому +10

    Would also love to see the most powerful one-rotor you could make

    • @MrMysto
      @MrMysto 6 місяців тому +3

      Ive been waiting for one, be sick in a Kai car

    • @anthonymcnatt3799
      @anthonymcnatt3799 6 місяців тому

      Dodge challenger 1 rotor with 3 compound turbos and spray.😂

  • @steveoh9838
    @steveoh9838 6 місяців тому +17

    Those things are a work of art. Technology of today's machined parts were unheard of not long ago.

    • @danstewart8218
      @danstewart8218 6 місяців тому +1

      Not really....you/we just were not shown it. Some of the stuff you read about in the 30/40/50's engineering magazines were utterly bonkers, they just went black.

    • @dooby1445
      @dooby1445 6 місяців тому +3

      @@danstewart8218Are you making the claim that 30/40/50s machining technology and techniques is anywhere close to one’s today in 2023? That’s fucking wild man. Maybe sit this one out.

    • @popmordiscos
      @popmordiscos 6 місяців тому

      @@dooby1445 He is not saying that they were the same and that shows in reliability, but that for the time they somehow managed to design multiple mechanical machined pieces of art

    • @popmordiscos
      @popmordiscos 6 місяців тому

      So to conclude... not unheard of but certainly harder to achieve

  • @justinmcnab9570
    @justinmcnab9570 6 місяців тому +4

    Nice to see a ProMaz on the channel. Excited to see how the Dahm Genius is going to make it better!!

  • @radicalgaming8376
    @radicalgaming8376 6 місяців тому +2

    Bruhhh this banger drops right before my finals 😭

  • @imsatanscott
    @imsatanscott 6 місяців тому +4

    I daydream a lot about ever building a rotary. The first 4 minutes of this video is 8 months salary and isn't even a quarter of the build. Maybe I can daydream for another 30 years.

  • @Op1zilla
    @Op1zilla 6 місяців тому +2

    Setting the Bar is A Master's Work 👽👍🏻✨

  • @aygwm
    @aygwm 6 місяців тому +1

    All that shiny machined aluminum looks EXPENSIVE.

  • @joemama069
    @joemama069 6 місяців тому

    14:54 everybody gangsta until the rotor is capable of rotating

  • @jasonsapp792
    @jasonsapp792 6 місяців тому

    Wow just the bling of what they milled out is stunning... But to have the level of performance to back up the "pretty" ... Daaaamn!

  • @br_gladiators
    @br_gladiators 6 місяців тому

    Rob's absolute dedication not only to build the most insane 4 rotor but to also sharing the every bit of knowledge he gathers from it is the best❤ . Keep it up the good work. We love you rob ❤.

  • @AngieMeadKing
    @AngieMeadKing 6 місяців тому

    love all the info!

  • @jacobandneshannaskaggs3855
    @jacobandneshannaskaggs3855 6 місяців тому +1

    Lol 44sec posted and already others comments love all the content Rob thank you for all you do!!!!!!❤

  • @Redemptioner1
    @Redemptioner1 6 місяців тому +1

    It is amazing an Australian company can do such good work. Half the job, half done is normally the Australia way......

  • @deltacharlieecho4732
    @deltacharlieecho4732 6 місяців тому

    Man, I wish I could just finish building my m50b30 compound twin turbo 700hp engine and you're here finishing what is probably the ultimate 4 rotor build from scratch. I wish I could afford to throw more at my build but everyday I get more and more underwater. Maybe someday.

  • @feenyx6394
    @feenyx6394 6 місяців тому

    So goshdahm excited for this double build, and learning the differences as we go!

  • @timothyhackett7372
    @timothyhackett7372 6 місяців тому +2

    ever since I saw mad mikes video of billet pros line up i knew you would get your hands on one

  • @MADMATTRS
    @MADMATTRS 6 місяців тому

    So stoked to see this bro and loving how you’re doing the side by side comparison with Herts build! Keep up the excellent work 💪🏻

  • @bharris1trumpeter
    @bharris1trumpeter 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for what you do Rob!

  • @thebossprojectxs5721
    @thebossprojectxs5721 6 місяців тому

    So excited for this build

  • @functiongarage
    @functiongarage 6 місяців тому +1

    Damn the external oiling machine work is amazing. Solid dowels and external oiling ftw. I've been checking out their 3 rotor plate for longer than I want to admit haha

  • @joeparreman4859
    @joeparreman4859 6 місяців тому +1

    I would love to see a long build video of both engines!

  • @touchedbyawankel
    @touchedbyawankel 6 місяців тому

    Looks like I'll be going billet when my motor finally gives up the ghost. No doubt Rob has had a massive POSITIVE impact on the rotary community and the car community in general. Love the transparency and logical explanations behind everything. Really hits home for those of us that build our own vehicles or have a background in building cars.

  • @diji5071
    @diji5071 6 місяців тому +1

    Ohhhhhh friggg yeah bud!
    Thanks you for what you do! From me and my bros in Canada! We all watch your stuff and enjoy it thoroughly. Keep it coming!

    • @esimler
      @esimler 6 місяців тому

      🇨🇦

  • @rotaryperfection
    @rotaryperfection 6 місяців тому +1

    Bought time someone built a proper 4 rotor with matching primary ports on the end plates. That was also my goal.

  • @tinytim6921
    @tinytim6921 6 місяців тому

    there's so much to talk about with this build... NOTHING GOT STOLEN!!!

  • @PrakosoKoko
    @PrakosoKoko 6 місяців тому

    I don't know why, but rotary engine looks amazing dude. The sound, Power and more 😂

  • @wrexz
    @wrexz 6 місяців тому

    Cant wait to see this built up!

  • @monnimonnickendam7289
    @monnimonnickendam7289 4 місяці тому

    glad to see you building big chunks of powerful shiny again 😃

  • @hahaha12345678993
    @hahaha12345678993 6 місяців тому +1

    just started watching, i dont even even want to know how much that beauty costs, definitely more than tree fiddy

  • @masternateboii7207
    @masternateboii7207 6 місяців тому +1

    Rob uploading makes my day after a long ass day.

  • @Seaabb
    @Seaabb 6 місяців тому

    This stuff gets me going boys. Much love

  • @LonnieHutchinson90
    @LonnieHutchinson90 6 місяців тому

    Hell yea that bit is a work of art can’t wait to see it together Ripping!!!

  • @OfficialMattCarlson
    @OfficialMattCarlson 6 місяців тому +2

    Bro 3d scan all those plates. You may not be at that point now, but you can play around with 3d printing. 💯👌🥃🏴‍☠️ 5:40

  • @ClaytonTNelson
    @ClaytonTNelson 6 місяців тому

    What a time to be alive, motorsports technology and development have come a long way in the last decade.

  • @jorgeneves548
    @jorgeneves548 6 місяців тому

    Bro love your work!!! Hugs from Portugal 🇵🇹 ❤️‍🔥

  • @racerx2084
    @racerx2084 3 місяці тому

    Work of art.

  • @diveaddict6885
    @diveaddict6885 6 місяців тому

    Awesome motor awesome Bill at work and craftsmanship

  • @rotasoljah
    @rotasoljah 6 місяців тому

    Love the appreciation for quality work. Up the aussies...

  • @whytho4358
    @whytho4358 6 місяців тому

    I can't wait to see EGT differences between this and the old engine!
    All that extra cooling through the plates will help dramatically! Let's GOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @zeadlots
    @zeadlots 6 місяців тому

    SO SHINY. Can't wait for the build

  • @Med1na2012
    @Med1na2012 6 місяців тому

    Santa that’s the Esky I want on Christmas Day!!

  • @OlderthanIlookyoungerthanIfeel
    @OlderthanIlookyoungerthanIfeel 6 місяців тому

    While I'm not a rotary fan boy , I can still very much appreciate the mechanical nature of your videos . 👍

  • @madscientistlife
    @madscientistlife 6 місяців тому

    I had a manufacturing processes with cnc programming class in college. Those "irons" are absolutely top notch!

  • @lovinRedBull
    @lovinRedBull 6 місяців тому

    Rob things to add to your arsenal is a set of gauge pins for accurately measuring your dowel holes and a micrometer to measure your dowels. Also having gauge pins it'll assist you measure point to point on hole patterns because you have a known OD pin and you can measure the outside of 2 holes and find center distance accurately.

  • @ddspixelrush6848
    @ddspixelrush6848 6 місяців тому

    Robdahm the god of rotarys

  • @craigbarrett2278
    @craigbarrett2278 6 місяців тому

    Fascinated by people's enginuity.❤

  • @clearskies8098
    @clearskies8098 6 місяців тому

    Great video ROB, I like how you explain things!!!!!!!!!!!!!😊

  • @chris47374
    @chris47374 6 місяців тому

    That's a thing of beauty!!!

  • @Redemptioner1
    @Redemptioner1 6 місяців тому

    Fix the o-ring issue by printing/CNC a jig the same shape as it will need to be on the irons and storing the o-rings on the jig. The o-ring will take up the shape (for the most part) over a couple of weeks and prevent the movement and pinching on assembly. You can speed up the process by heat carefully heat cycling the o-rings a few times on the jig. You could also print an assembly jig so you could get alignment perfect (pre-jiggle)above the seals.

  • @floodo1
    @floodo1 6 місяців тому

    Perfect ending. I got goose bumps

  • @mikescudder4621
    @mikescudder4621 6 місяців тому

    Thats a nice bit of kit.

  • @noork2938
    @noork2938 5 місяців тому

    Thats real power

  • @madscientistlife
    @madscientistlife 6 місяців тому +1

    "Who thermally lava sprays tungsten chromium carbide? That's aerospace bullshit, ain't nobody got time for that!"
    -Rob Dahm 2023...

  • @cjdavis3247
    @cjdavis3247 6 місяців тому

    Lez go Dahm daddy is back

  • @kumakaroshi117
    @kumakaroshi117 6 місяців тому

    Someone got an early Christmas 🎁🎄🎁🎄🎁

  • @g62412
    @g62412 6 місяців тому

    Hell yeah ! Great content

  • @Digimanis
    @Digimanis 6 місяців тому

    What a masterpiece!!!!!

  • @lilboi630
    @lilboi630 6 місяців тому

    omg those parts are works of art

  • @jongrier5093
    @jongrier5093 6 місяців тому

    I feel like this video is a direct response to my comment on your previous vid. What a coincidence 😊

  • @fluffybat4060
    @fluffybat4060 6 місяців тому

    Bro, I’ve always loved you bro keep up the amazing work

  • @Nikkoz33
    @Nikkoz33 6 місяців тому

    I love the care they took for shipping, especially the locked case to keep the ups sticky fingers away 😂

  • @Kenshin_Tran
    @Kenshin_Tran 6 місяців тому

    Good shit!

  • @AndreasLothary
    @AndreasLothary 6 місяців тому +1

    you can make a hardenestest with a centerpunch.
    at least you can compare materials if you are able to hit the centerpunch with the same force.
    i thought this could be an interesting tip for you.
    good luck.
    I`m watching you :-

  • @XAY00T
    @XAY00T 6 місяців тому

    remember commenting on the centre lock nut on a previous video. glad to see rob saw the light

  • @mustfindaway
    @mustfindaway 6 місяців тому

    Very nice :) getting a stressfree not twisted and so on after machining and heat treatment. there is always one thing off! unless you use thors vise sent from the heavens... still cant be identical in all variables 😁

  • @driftonyou
    @driftonyou 6 місяців тому

    Love everything you’re doing. Ran across a cnc video and thought about your projects. And thought I’d share. Hopefully it’s helpful. I’m pretty sure you’ve probably seen it but throwing it out there. Their UA-cam is titans of cnc machining. $50m part.

  • @jackztheincompetant
    @jackztheincompetant 6 місяців тому

    i need to learn rotary's this is so much different then how piston engines work its super interesting

  • @tekia9233
    @tekia9233 6 місяців тому

    I said it before and I will say it again, this man is carrying the rotary's legacy on his back❤

  • @youravantgarde
    @youravantgarde 6 місяців тому

    Rob is so freaking humble.

  • @umbraelegios4130
    @umbraelegios4130 6 місяців тому

    I think Rob would marry that motor if he could.

  • @CrazyCat229
    @CrazyCat229 6 місяців тому

    So great youre keeping the intrest in rotaries alive. I dont think I will ever get my FD back on the road. T_T

  • @artcruze7089
    @artcruze7089 6 місяців тому

    You on a whole other level… your own level forsure!

  • @ChrisJRSpro
    @ChrisJRSpro 6 місяців тому

    Looking forward to see how this turns out.

  • @JessicaJohnson-nu2pg
    @JessicaJohnson-nu2pg 6 місяців тому

    Love it ❤ so shiny 😊

  • @KapuAdam
    @KapuAdam 6 місяців тому

    Lol "you can't un-open Pandora's Box"
    I believe there's a word for that...

  • @joealex65
    @joealex65 6 місяців тому +3

    I know i'm just reaching, but is not full billet until you have billet housings and rotors! Anyways, back to the normal schedule! 😂😂

  • @phillipgoodes6023
    @phillipgoodes6023 6 місяців тому

    WoW beautiful 😊

  • @corey5797
    @corey5797 6 місяців тому

    Yes…..
    Rob, just….yes
    Carry on, expeditedly💪👊

  • @jacobringgaardmikkelsen5103
    @jacobringgaardmikkelsen5103 6 місяців тому

    Damn they look good

  • @TheScorpio142
    @TheScorpio142 6 місяців тому

    you’re so interesting my dog even watches with me, love it

  • @eddiev795
    @eddiev795 6 місяців тому

    Take a long look at those beautiful parts!!! Rob is about to thrash the crap out of them!! That's what he does!

  • @jimtom8273
    @jimtom8273 6 місяців тому

    Oh man my aunt showed me u on the bachelor I honestly didn't know what the hell that was, I watched an episode, I instantly thought...I bet that fun as hell lol

  • @Kopa_Malphas
    @Kopa_Malphas 6 місяців тому

    Getting Rob Dahm nerding the F out on cars, followed by Adam Savage nerding out on machining? All I need is a Project Binky update, and I can die a happy man.