How so? Are you implying anyone who differs from your opinion are from a xenophobic and racist standpoint? Because that would be extremely narrow minded no? Not to mention hypocritical in expressing generalistic views of a group of people just because you don't agree. That'd be mirroring the thought process of one's you hate. It beggars belief that some people on both sides of the FOOTBALLING opinion can't accept or understand each other, it's very childish. Edit: For those of you who like to jump in and not read, I was in favour of Tuchel. Calling out dim generalisation is the point with clear inability to debate as proven below. It's pathetic how blown out of proportion the whole thing is showing how people cannot take in others opinion. People really to grow up on both sides.
@redeye-ldn Who is? Are you another making an unintelligent assumption? No one's discriminating in the true sense of it, respectfully, that's completely disingenuous in context of what it's regarding. They are stating their preference purely on the basis of the spirit of the competition in national representation. It's a fair merited opinion on that basis, and it's just an opinion. I like Tuchel, but I understand the point of wanting a manager of the same nationality. It's not outlandish, wrong, a new concept, or exclusive to football and England. Other countries follow the same notion. It's just an opinion guys with merited reasoning. It's literally the default position of a national tournament, and they don't wish to waver from that regardless even if it means not having the most talented manager available. They simply feel it isn't in the very principle of the tournament and it's "cutting corners' to fill in until we have a quality English manager. Because that's exactly what's happening anyway. What I find more amazing is people on either side can't understand the others preference. We all don't have to agree, it's opinion, and some people are passionate about it. No side is wrong or ultimately discriminating, context matters. Making such acute generalisations of one side of the argument reflects a poor understanding of the opposing view. Grow up? Or don't.
@@Allegro_Giusto A) Please speak like a normal human being would speak in conversation. You sound like a Redditor. B) Other countries are either: Winning things with their national managers, worse than us, have actually good managers from their own country (that are available for international management!), or don't have a manager from their own country. Last time England won anything, most of us weren't alive. I understand how it might be "Ideal" to have an English manager. England aren't in an "Ideal" situation. Don't give a toss which manager we get, so long as they're good.
As a German I appreciate Gary inquiring about the correct way to pronounce Tuchel's name and immediately implementing it. I know the "ch" gives Brits a hard time but at least he makes an effort.
That's literally the first question they have to ask every single player and manager when they arrive 😂 it's got nothing to with respect or honourable. It's because their ego doesn't want to make a fool of themselves on national tv. Relax, its not that deep 😂
Good to see Rapha! If there's a positive coming out of the TT appointment, it's that we will get to see and hear from Rapha more, his insight is unrivalled IMHO 😀
I guess I can speak for a lot of German football fans. It feels like an honour that Tuchel was chosen as England's manager, not as an invasion. ;) Good luck to England since penalties are not a problem for you anymore.
@@jamesmilligan2797Well, if you’re of English heritage, chances are that you’re very much Danish at least. We tend to leave our mark on the world the strangest way and places… And you’re welcome! 😂 🇩🇰
@@Sonderborg75 Not quite true, we are mostly Angle and Saxon so Germanic (not German), but have some sprinkling of Viking and Celtic as well and more recently any heritage if born here
@@Rayhhh Then you miss the point of the opposing opinion by many of you think that. Mostly people don't care he's German, it's that he's foreign at all. It's amazing how many people don't understand someone elses opinion. Both are are fine and understandable. The a mantra that is exclusive to England, many nations and their fans feel the same. People need to calm down on both sides, it's really no big deal.
Interesting Raphael points out the lack of progression from U23 to senior level in English football for coaches. A lot of really good coaches get stuck at academies because clubs (even further down the pyramid) aren’t willing to give them a go.
They should move to another country and have a go there then. Enough foreign coaches do this in the UK at all professional levels, why can't English managers? Simply, because they're unable/unwilling to learn another language unfortunately. If you want to have opportunities as a coach, make yourself adaptable
Don't blame further down the pyramid. The majority have english coaches. What about the hypocritical prem clubs? United haven't even tried an English coach for god knows how long. Arsenal.. City.. Tottenham.. all of them would rather have a foreign manager.. or if they do give an Englishman a chance he tends to last less than a year. If an englishman had the same time as ETH at united he would not be in his 3rd season and that's a fact
@@adamboow8299 Prem teams are particularly bad for sure. I’m wondering why it’s so difficult for English coaches to break through then? Prevailing attitudes? Or are they genuinely not as good as foreign coaches?
@@errol1935 Eddie Howe is there. I know Newcastle fans love him, and he is a good manager, but he is really probably the best English coach now. Compared to other top European countries, thats just sad.
Tuchel is such a fantastic appointment, gutted because it means we wont get it him at united. I can see Jude potentially clashing with him at some point if things are not to his liking but the sense i get from Bellingham is that so long as his team mates are doing what is asked of them, he is happy to do what is asked of him. He only really gets annoyed when the team isn't as determined as he is.
Raphael Honigstein confirming that the so called rivalry only goes ONE WAY. 😂😂 Imagine clutching your pearls "A German? Our biggest rivals" And they don't even care. We aren't their biggest rival. Or even in the top 3. Let that sink in. What does that say about English society? I've seen several people online claiming "everyone hates us". And the truth is most countries have more of a "meh" opinion about us. Ego makes that pretty hard to deal with.
So true. Germany is no longer a rival of England. Germany's rivals would be any teams that got knocked out early in Euro2024. They are great at losing early. 😂
It’s always been one way. Growing up half German half English I was always baffled by the weird obsession the English have with Germany as a rival. Because I never heard any negative comments being made from a German towards England or the English. If anything the Germans respect and admire the English (maybe less so since Brexit) 🤷🏼♂️
Greece had a tougher path to winning the Cup too. Portugal, Spain, France and Czech Republic ( strong Nedved led version) were all difficult opponents.
I didn't think of the fact that as an international manager, he can not have a player forced upon him. He knows the pool of players available to him, no Director of football etc. That's a good insight.
i dont know how english football "experts" dare to doubt tuchel because of his nationality. he's not an easy character but such a great coach and just miles ahead of any english candidate.
Not everyone who thinks England manager ought to be English is doubting Tuchel. Carragher, for example, thinks international football ought to be 'best of ours' vs 'best of theirs', meaning both players *and* managers, and that bringing in a foreign ringer as manager because English ones aren't up to snuff feels like cheating, same as if you drafted a foreign player in because your country was weak in that position. And he does rate Tuchel tactically. I don't know anyone who genuinely thinks he's not an elite manager, at least tactically/technically (whether his man management is good enough at the top end/with modern players is an open question, not helped by following Klopp at Mainz and Dortmund because of the comparison, and having a run of managing difficult clubs with too many political problems in Chelsea, PSG and Bayern). I'm not English, so I have no dog in this fight, but I fear for Tuchel with the British press who love tearing the national team and successful people in general down. I can already see headlines about discontent in the camp and pretend nostalgia for "Southgate's club England environment" and how Tuchel is 'aloof'. If this job blows up in his face, and it can - England aren't as good as the English think it is (some untouchable players like Kane fundamentally don't perform when playing top opposition for example) - he's going to have trouble getting another top job, given he already has a reputation as difficult for ownership to work with. I'd say he's best suited to Italy (they love highly tactical managers and disciplinarians are viewed positively), but they rarely employ foreign managers. I just don't see where he goes if this doesn't go well - presumably Klopp is nailed on as next German national team manager (if his association with the toxic RB doesn't tarnish his image), he's done pretty much all the superclubs that would hire someone like him (so not RM), leaving just clubs that are a very bad fit given his history with politically difficult clubs (ie Barca, ManU, etc). Not a Liverpool manager, I don't think (we need a manager we can connect with on a personal level, although I wouldn't mind the appointment personally if Slot doesn't work out).
No complaints from me love this appointment world class manager, also to those that doesn’t agree with it because he isn’t English if it was pep that took over I’m sure you would’ve loved that it’s because he’s German you don’t, I’m very excited about it bring on the 2026 World Cup 🏴
I think people underestimated how the environment that Southgate helped to implement contributed to England's mord successful period of the last few years. History shows the England national team is most successful when there is a more positive environment within the squad, 1990, 1996 shows this, can't speak upon 1966 but I would guess there was a positive environment created.
Harry Kane is going to be crucial in the success or failure of the appointment. Tuchel was already a great admirer of Harry’s ability to score goals and influence play. Can he enhance their relationship and tap into his Captain’s undoubted know how, in order to work with Harry to take the England Squad to the next level?
First thing he needs to do is find a way to dump Kane in a way that doesn't make him persona non grata with the press. Fact is, Kane just doesn't produce when faced with top opposition/playing against better teams, and that's what you need to win finals. He also can't be the future of the side given age and injury record. The trouble is, playing Kane requires you to set up in a way where you can't just drop in, say, Watkins or someone else. I do rate Kane, just not as much as you seem to.
England's only major tournament achievement was in 66 against West Germany. Perhaps it's written on the wall that a German will eventually end England's drought once and for all. Sometimes football works miraculously on its own. Welcome on board!!! C'mon! 🦁🦁🦁
@@GreasyGoon Micah is quite understandable though as this is about football and not quantum mechanics. Content matters more than vocabulary and diction.
You gotta understand, that the famous England Germany rivalry in football (and the obsession with 66) is almost exclusively a topic on the english side. Very few Germans feel very strongly about this. Germanys main rivals for a long time have been Italy, Spain, Netherlands... The only thing 1966 is famous for is the so called "Wembley Goal", that wasn't in. QI had this as a question ages ago about 1966 and they were spot on. And it got a interesting reaction (of complete surprise) from the panel.
I saw that too, because I'm German and I was intrested in what they would do in this Germany-themed episode. They finished the bit with the coclusion that Germany were in denial about not being in a rivalry with England. XD
Slightly misleading about the Bayern team being the same after he left and then goin on to playing good attacking football. His main complaint was no holding midfielder and after he got sacked they went out and signs Paulina (one of the best holding midfielders in Europe) which allowed them to play that attacking style.
IMO, TT is a great appointment for England. However, judging from som IMO ridiculous questions English media was asking TT, like will you sing "God save the King" song ? I am also convinced that , English media will drive TT away relatively soon.
we all know thomas tuchel's greatest enemy will not be the opponent on the pitch, it will be the english media. i am far from giving you any advice but if you get behind thomas he will england some silverware because he's the perfect fit for your national team who's gifted with the most talented players in the world. they are even more talented than the french, spanish or italian ones - best regards and all the best for the future (from germany) ...
Let’s face it, regardless of where the England manager was born, if they win us a major trophy then they’ll go down as an English legend for the rest of time. Here’s hoping he wins the World Cup & Euros so we can call him Tommy Two-Time 🏆 🏆
Who was the last really good English coach who consistently won trophies with club teams? I think that dried up in the 1980's. If Bobby Robson had managed win the 1990 WC, would that have made any difference to the current dearth of good English coaches ?
I couldn’t care less where the manager is from. We simply do not have a manager of Tuchel’s calibre in England. Good luck to him, we need to back him and support him and the team
Southgate's legacy will be the culture and togetherness within the team. Tuchel will benefit from that I think. He can get straight into the nitty gritty and not worry too much about the other stuff. I predict he'll give us 2 tournaments and then itll end on a sour note. Result wise I think we'll win the next Euros....
I'd be perfectly happy if Tuchel opted to drop Kane ... same re. Saka. *No player* is indispensable ... Tuchel won't be bothered about upsetting egos - and that's fine by me. 🙂
Saka can't be dropped hes the perfect rw tha actually tracks back and help defence . Every team has a player they build around . No I'm ot a arsenal fan I actually despise arsenal lol
@@lisapoole4350 *any* player can be dropped - even Saka. To be honest his recent performances for England haven't exactly set the pitch alight, have they. If there's any player that an England team should be built around (at the moment) it is Palmer. (And I say that as a Newcastle fan).
Mr Tucal does not come across as a “Yes Sir” man that the English FA like. This is a huge gamble that will either lead to a trophy or will go off like a Bomb… hence the 18 month Contract..Lets hope as our 3rd Choice (Pep, Klopp etc) he gets us a trophy. After this it will be between the top English Coaches.. Eddie Howe is my favourite
I feel that until more ENGLISH COACHES manage the top EPL clubs it's going to be harder for the FA to appoint an ENGLISHMAN on a consistant basis. However if Tuchel delivers the WC title to ENGLAND in 2026 then the ENGLISH fans will not care his being GERMAN. Something that goes forgotten is that to win a tournament it requires a collective effort from the coaching staff as a whole so Tuchel will have ENGLISH coaches on his staff to help him.
At last, honest, considered and thoughtful discussion about a football topic. The British media think sensationalising and making everything binary is what we all want, as if we’re all thick as f@ck. Gareth Southgate I’m sure wanted to win and very nearly did, but oh how boring it was to watch. Nobody ever remembers the runners up. And nobody will ever look back at our lost finals and think we gave it a good go. I hope Tuchel goes for it, even if we do lose.
Personally I’m pleased with the appointment. However, I do think saying we shouldn’t have a foreign manager is a perfectly legitimate objection. I actually think it should be a rule that the manager has to come from The country too.
For me, Tuchel came in to Chelsea and instantly spoke better English than Pep, Klopp, Conte or Pochettino have ever done with multiple years of experience.
Gareth Southgate was promoted from U21a to senior but yes his point is mostly valid regarding youth coaches getting promoted. Neil Critchley went from Liverpool youth to Blackpool but these are far to few examples of this.
If u want a beer on Saturday eve and the only thing at home is whiskey u take it and will be happy i guess...its the most english that a non-english coach can be lads😊 he will sing sooner or later i bet...so cheer on!
Why aren't there many great English candidates? The F.A. keep the pool of talent small by making access to courses limited and where there are courses they are ridiculously expensive for anyone wanting to become a coach who isn't an ex- pro from the premier league. The latest figures I could find for Uefa Pro Licence qualified coaches is from 2017 sums it up why German managers are more successful in English football compared to English managers. Spain - 2,379 Germany - 861 Italy - 826 Turkey - 548 Czechia - 391 England - 383 Is it any wonder that we have to choose a top candidate from outside England. The pool of highly qualified candidates is so much greater when you look beyond England. The F.A. needs to open up many more courses at a much more affordable rate and increase the talent.
Personally would have liked an English manager... I would have liked to see Graham Potter take the job. But it doesn't matter now. We should support him and hope he can get the best out of the players available. COME ON ENGLAND!!
Speaking Welsh makes it easy to pronounce his name. It would be spelled Twchell! Id England do meet Germany in the final, TT will pick Harry MaGuire as Captain, Henderson and Philips in midfield and Jordan Pickford as a lone striker.
IMO they given him the 18 month deal, because I think that timescale we can get/want Pep and then atleast if we win the World Cup with Tuchel we’ve covered all bases.
Tuchel can repair Player, Rüdiger was nearly sacked at Chelsea but Tuchel saw the Potential and Rüdiger is a German National Team Player at Real Madrid not a bad Recovery
We have a coach fot the national team. He might not have been my choice but he is my coach. He is England. We should get behind him now without question. Lets see where he takes us. I am his fan now. Maybe he should re-record vindaloo.
Because epl is so popular, so any good coach from spain, German & Portugal they will hire, while a lot of English coach just coach championship club and below until they retire. They just never have a chance.
Let's be honest: Southgate had all the luck with the draws at big tournaments....if Tuchel has the same luck he might win it but i can't see them beating France Spain Germany in succession....
No, it'll be Germany - England final 2-2 at full time. Extra time we score, but goal line tech disallows England goal. It's going to penalties, they think it's all over......
Tuchel could easily have won 5 trophies at Chelsea, he lost two penalty shootouts to a brilliant Liverpool team at Wembley. He’s a great coach and personality.
I feel pretty confident that as soon as it looks like it isn’t working, and the longer it isn’t working, the more toxic and offensive the punditry will be towards him. Not the fans. The ex-pro pundits. Who are the most toxic contributors to football commentary today. The fans will get on board too of course, they’ll take their lead from the toxic pundits and the tone that will come from them. Then he’ll be abused as a person. In person and on social media. And the same pundits will talk about how terrible that is. Without irony or shame. Pretty standard procedure these days.
Yeah but the little englanders are mentally suck in ww11 and that's what it will come down to the fact that he's Germany. Meanwhile Europe has grown up and moved on, I wish him good luck 🙂
i could not care less that tuchel won't be buddies with the players, its not a love in. we want trophies. its not a flipping holiday for multimillionaires that it has been treated like these past 10 years.
Good luck to Tuchel, but IMO he’s going to face the same barriers as all his predecessors. he’s only got an 18 month contract. It’s a sad indictment of English football that we have to turn to a foreign manager to manage our national team. And its not Xenophobic; it’s the very point of international football for English players/coaches v other nations’s best. Hiring Tuchel is just a sticking plaster anyway because the underlying structures are not there to help the national team to win major trophies. It’s one of the reasons why England haven’t won a major trophy in 60 years.
Firstly Rafa‘s English is fantastic. Hut ab. Some good insights. Was never a fan of Tuchel it‘ll be interesting who he pisses of first. A real challenge for him.
Raphael Honigstein is a treat - as always: 👍👌👏❤! England? After a dismal, boring and mind-numbing showing at the Euro 2024 that made watching paint dry an exhilarating experience, but earned them a totally undeserved place in the final, maybe they will get better? And then fail again 🤪! Ach, how successful Spanish (-speaking) managers have become 😊.
I fear his ‘love’ for Kane will hold him back, if he follows GS and Carsley by selecting him if unfit , which ch he has been through the Euro’s and last couple games
As a Chelsea fan that won't be the case at all especially with the quality of backup strikers for England. He won't be scared to bench Kane if he isn't performing or has an injury
I know of only one coach who has guided a 6th-tier team from Östersund to beat Galatasaray as well as Arsenal (at the Etihad). Guess he's to replace Tuchel, once the "volatility" triggers the English football press and they turn to show their dark side.
the appointment has upset all the right people
How so? Are you implying anyone who differs from your opinion are from a xenophobic and racist standpoint? Because that would be extremely narrow minded no? Not to mention hypocritical in expressing generalistic views of a group of people just because you don't agree. That'd be mirroring the thought process of one's you hate. It beggars belief that some people on both sides of the FOOTBALLING opinion can't accept or understand each other, it's very childish.
Edit: For those of you who like to jump in and not read, I was in favour of Tuchel. Calling out dim generalisation is the point with clear inability to debate as proven below. It's pathetic how blown out of proportion the whole thing is showing how people cannot take in others opinion. People really to grow up on both sides.
@@Allegro_Giustohe is correct, since you've been upset
@@Allegro_Giusto why are you upset?
@redeye-ldn Who is? Are you another making an unintelligent assumption? No one's discriminating in the true sense of it, respectfully, that's completely disingenuous in context of what it's regarding. They are stating their preference purely on the basis of the spirit of the competition in national representation.
It's a fair merited opinion on that basis, and it's just an opinion. I like Tuchel, but I understand the point of wanting a manager of the same nationality. It's not outlandish, wrong, a new concept, or exclusive to football and England. Other countries follow the same notion.
It's just an opinion guys with merited reasoning. It's literally the default position of a national tournament, and they don't wish to waver from that regardless even if it means not having the most talented manager available. They simply feel it isn't in the very principle of the tournament and it's "cutting corners' to fill in until we have a quality English manager. Because that's exactly what's happening anyway.
What I find more amazing is people on either side can't understand the others preference. We all don't have to agree, it's opinion, and some people are passionate about it. No side is wrong or ultimately discriminating, context matters. Making such acute generalisations of one side of the argument reflects a poor understanding of the opposing view. Grow up? Or don't.
@@Allegro_Giusto
A) Please speak like a normal human being would speak in conversation. You sound like a Redditor.
B) Other countries are either: Winning things with their national managers, worse than us, have actually good managers from their own country (that are available for international management!), or don't have a manager from their own country. Last time England won anything, most of us weren't alive. I understand how it might be "Ideal" to have an English manager. England aren't in an "Ideal" situation. Don't give a toss which manager we get, so long as they're good.
As a German I appreciate Gary inquiring about the correct way to pronounce Tuchel's name and immediately implementing it. I know the "ch" gives Brits a hard time but at least he makes an effort.
Scousers and Scots have no problems with the "ch" enunciation 🙂
Correct, apparently I've always pronounced his name properly. 👍
I think we try to over pronounce these things.
That's literally the first question they have to ask every single player and manager when they arrive 😂 it's got nothing to with respect or honourable. It's because their ego doesn't want to make a fool of themselves on national tv. Relax, its not that deep 😂
Spanish have no problems either with "ch" :)
Honigstein is an excellent analyst.
He’s a regular on the BBC Euro Leagues, and is great on there too!
It's nice to have someone who actually understands football as opposed to pundits.
Honigstein has a better command of the English language than most Brits. Impressive!
Good to see Rapha! If there's a positive coming out of the TT appointment, it's that we will get to see and hear from Rapha more, his insight is unrivalled IMHO 😀
This appointment should be a good one because he’s tactical and we have 0 of them
Will Rapha sing our national anthem?
My favourite football journo, knows his stuff, talks sense and gets to the point
@@paulie-g echo my thoughts exactly! 🙌
@@KC_485 Also, Rapha doesn't invent things or pretend to be in the know when he isn't. This shouldn't be rare, but is.
Stubborn? Good. Speaks freely? Good. Strong opinions? Good. I love this appointment
Me too. Gareth Southgate was a bit namby pamby for me. We don’t need a statesman. Sometimes people need their feathers ruffled.
@@MrGrantspantsyeah Tuchel is very much the exact opposite of Southgate
Could listen to this gentleman all day, what a great guest
I guess I can speak for a lot of German football fans. It feels like an honour that Tuchel was chosen as England's manager, not as an invasion. ;) Good luck to England since penalties are not a problem for you anymore.
Top comment mate 🏴❤🇩🇪 we're all German & Scandanavian anyway
You're all commun in not favouring life over work. @@jamesmilligan2797
no we aren't.
@@jamesmilligan2797Well, if you’re of English heritage, chances are that you’re very much Danish at least. We tend to leave our mark on the world the strangest way and places… And you’re welcome! 😂 🇩🇰
@@Sonderborg75 Not quite true, we are mostly Angle and Saxon so Germanic (not German), but have some sprinkling of Viking and Celtic as well and more recently any heritage if born here
Incredibly impressed by this guy's analysis. Very insightful and informative about TT in particular.
Great interview. My two favourite football experts. Very knowledgeable and entertaining the same time
Rapha is a class journalist and is always engaging, funny, informative and really insightful.
Good listen.
What a brilliant guest. Such a difference from the poor journalists we have in England.
People are hypocrites if Klopp took the job they be no complaints
*there would be no complaints* Which is incorrect, there would be fewer complaints.
Very good point. Tuchel is an amazing manager. Top 3,4 in the world. We are lucky to have him
I've been saying the same thing. No one would bat an eye if it was Klopp or Pep
@@Rayhhh Then you miss the point of the opposing opinion by many of you think that. Mostly people don't care he's German, it's that he's foreign at all. It's amazing how many people don't understand someone elses opinion. Both are are fine and understandable. The a mantra that is exclusive to England, many nations and their fans feel the same. People need to calm down on both sides, it's really no big deal.
@@Norvik_-ug3gealso how does that make someone a hypocrite?
Wow Rafael has such a clear head !
Gary,you are to be applauded for the content of these podcasts, a breath of fresh air and realism when you don’t have to tow the party line. Crack on
Honigstein is class.
Interesting Raphael points out the lack of progression from U23 to senior level in English football for coaches. A lot of really good coaches get stuck at academies because clubs (even further down the pyramid) aren’t willing to give them a go.
They should move to another country and have a go there then. Enough foreign coaches do this in the UK at all professional levels, why can't English managers? Simply, because they're unable/unwilling to learn another language unfortunately. If you want to have opportunities as a coach, make yourself adaptable
But there aren't that many around !
Don't blame further down the pyramid. The majority have english coaches. What about the hypocritical prem clubs? United haven't even tried an English coach for god knows how long. Arsenal.. City.. Tottenham.. all of them would rather have a foreign manager.. or if they do give an Englishman a chance he tends to last less than a year. If an englishman had the same time as ETH at united he would not be in his 3rd season and that's a fact
@@adamboow8299 Prem teams are particularly bad for sure. I’m wondering why it’s so difficult for English coaches to break through then? Prevailing attitudes? Or are they genuinely not as good as foreign coaches?
@@errol1935 Eddie Howe is there. I know Newcastle fans love him, and he is a good manager, but he is really probably the best English coach now. Compared to other top European countries, thats just sad.
Tuchel is such a fantastic appointment, gutted because it means we wont get it him at united. I can see Jude potentially clashing with him at some point if things are not to his liking but the sense i get from Bellingham is that so long as his team mates are doing what is asked of them, he is happy to do what is asked of him. He only really gets annoyed when the team isn't as determined as he is.
Raphael Honigstein confirming that the so called rivalry only goes ONE WAY. 😂😂 Imagine clutching your pearls "A German? Our biggest rivals"
And they don't even care. We aren't their biggest rival. Or even in the top 3. Let that sink in. What does that say about English society? I've seen several people online claiming "everyone hates us". And the truth is most countries have more of a "meh" opinion about us. Ego makes that pretty hard to deal with.
That's so true. Germany is no longer a rival of England. The teams that got knocked out early in Euro2024 are Germany's rivals. 😂
So true. Germany is no longer a rival of England. Germany's rivals would be any teams that got knocked out early in Euro2024. They are great at losing early. 😂
It’s always been one way. Growing up half German half English I was always baffled by the weird obsession the English have with Germany as a rival. Because I never heard any negative comments being made from a German towards England or the English. If anything the Germans respect and admire the English (maybe less so since Brexit) 🤷🏼♂️
The rivalry truely is one way. You don't hear Germans say anything bad about English people.
Absolutely true. We never really cared about the English squad at all.
This obsession is one way only.
Don't forged that Greece became European champions with....German coach.
Fluke
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@@Norvik_-ug3geso was our journey to the most recent finals and semis, our draw was the easiest side every time. You need luck to win trophies
Greece had a tougher path to winning the Cup too. Portugal, Spain, France and Czech Republic ( strong Nedved led version) were all difficult opponents.
@@Norvik_-ug3gestill happened. England haven’t got fluky winning anything 😂
A proper journalist and pundit. So refreshing
I didn't think of the fact that as an international manager, he can not have a player forced upon him. He knows the pool of players available to him, no Director of football etc. That's a good insight.
i dont know how english football "experts" dare to doubt tuchel because of his nationality. he's not an easy character but such a great coach and just miles ahead of any english candidate.
Not everyone who thinks England manager ought to be English is doubting Tuchel. Carragher, for example, thinks international football ought to be 'best of ours' vs 'best of theirs', meaning both players *and* managers, and that bringing in a foreign ringer as manager because English ones aren't up to snuff feels like cheating, same as if you drafted a foreign player in because your country was weak in that position. And he does rate Tuchel tactically. I don't know anyone who genuinely thinks he's not an elite manager, at least tactically/technically (whether his man management is good enough at the top end/with modern players is an open question, not helped by following Klopp at Mainz and Dortmund because of the comparison, and having a run of managing difficult clubs with too many political problems in Chelsea, PSG and Bayern). I'm not English, so I have no dog in this fight, but I fear for Tuchel with the British press who love tearing the national team and successful people in general down. I can already see headlines about discontent in the camp and pretend nostalgia for "Southgate's club England environment" and how Tuchel is 'aloof'. If this job blows up in his face, and it can - England aren't as good as the English think it is (some untouchable players like Kane fundamentally don't perform when playing top opposition for example) - he's going to have trouble getting another top job, given he already has a reputation as difficult for ownership to work with. I'd say he's best suited to Italy (they love highly tactical managers and disciplinarians are viewed positively), but they rarely employ foreign managers. I just don't see where he goes if this doesn't go well - presumably Klopp is nailed on as next German national team manager (if his association with the toxic RB doesn't tarnish his image), he's done pretty much all the superclubs that would hire someone like him (so not RM), leaving just clubs that are a very bad fit given his history with politically difficult clubs (ie Barca, ManU, etc). Not a Liverpool manager, I don't think (we need a manager we can connect with on a personal level, although I wouldn't mind the appointment personally if Slot doesn't work out).
No complaints from me love this appointment world class manager, also to those that doesn’t agree with it because he isn’t English if it was pep that took over I’m sure you would’ve loved that it’s because he’s German you don’t, I’m very excited about it bring on the 2026 World Cup 🏴
One thing to note is Tuchel has sat down in the past and discussed with Pep about tactics over dinner. If you can't get Pep, this is the second best
superb interview!
I think people underestimated how the environment that Southgate helped to implement contributed to England's mord successful period of the last few years. History shows the England national team is most successful when there is a more positive environment within the squad, 1990, 1996 shows this, can't speak upon 1966 but I would guess there was a positive environment created.
Harry Kane is going to be crucial in the success or failure of the appointment. Tuchel was already a great admirer of Harry’s ability to score goals and influence play. Can he enhance their relationship and tap into his Captain’s undoubted know how, in order to work with Harry to take the England Squad to the next level?
The team needs to move on from harry kane, he's last generation.
First thing he needs to do is find a way to dump Kane in a way that doesn't make him persona non grata with the press. Fact is, Kane just doesn't produce when faced with top opposition/playing against better teams, and that's what you need to win finals. He also can't be the future of the side given age and injury record. The trouble is, playing Kane requires you to set up in a way where you can't just drop in, say, Watkins or someone else. I do rate Kane, just not as much as you seem to.
England's only major tournament achievement was in 66 against West Germany. Perhaps it's written on the wall that a German will eventually end England's drought once and for all. Sometimes football works miraculously on its own.
Welcome on board!!! C'mon! 🦁🦁🦁
Raphael is excellent. Get him back on! With pobably better English vocabulary and diction than Micah!
Like most people 😊.
Raphael always provides good insight.
Deffo has a better grasp of the language than Micah does, and I LOVE Micah, but the lad doesn’t half struggle
@@GreasyGoon Micah is quite understandable though as this is about football and not quantum mechanics. Content matters more than vocabulary and diction.
@@Jakob-r2x As a particle physicist, I second this!
@@markwhitehead2234 appreciate👍🏾. a particle physicist for real? The small stuff is mind blowing 🤯🧠💥
The emotional/tactical thing that Raphael talked about regarding Tuchel is actually great analysis
Great Interview
look at brighton - instead of getting an English manager, they hire a German coach from the second German division...
Really? Crazy because their new coach is not even from our farmers league aka Bundesliga
Tuchel loves players like Bellingham, Rice, Saka etc that put work in Imho it's a perfect fit.
Nice to have someone who understands football on here for a change.
Gary is on all the time.
@@Norvik_-ug3ge so is Alan and Micah, micah not so much 😆
You gotta understand, that the famous England Germany rivalry in football (and the obsession with 66) is almost exclusively a topic on the english side. Very few Germans feel very strongly about this.
Germanys main rivals for a long time have been Italy, Spain, Netherlands...
The only thing 1966 is famous for is the so called "Wembley Goal", that wasn't in. QI had this as a question ages ago about 1966 and they were spot on. And it got a interesting reaction (of complete surprise) from the panel.
I saw that too, because I'm German and I was intrested in what they would do in this Germany-themed episode. They finished the bit with the coclusion that Germany were in denial about not being in a rivalry with England. XD
Love Raph ❤ miss him on the continent pod
Its an amazing appointment. No one can say me Carsley or Southgate are better managers. Its not true from the evidence.
Slightly misleading about the Bayern team being the same after he left and then goin on to playing good attacking football. His main complaint was no holding midfielder and after he got sacked they went out and signs Paulina (one of the best holding midfielders in Europe) which allowed them to play that attacking style.
Fantastic interview
IMO, TT is a great appointment for England. However, judging from som IMO ridiculous questions English media was asking TT, like will you sing "God save the King" song ? I am also convinced that , English media will drive TT away relatively soon.
Impressive chap
0:27: "VOT EES YOR NEM?"
I was thinking the same thing 😂
Somebody had to say it
we all know thomas tuchel's greatest enemy will not be the opponent on the pitch, it will be the english media. i am far from giving you any advice but if you get behind thomas he will england some silverware because he's the perfect fit for your national team who's gifted with the most talented players in the world. they are even more talented than the french, spanish or italian ones - best regards and all the best for the future (from germany) ...
What a great guest. Knows his stuff and explains very well in his second language
Let’s face it, regardless of where the England manager was born, if they win us a major trophy then they’ll go down as an English legend for the rest of time. Here’s hoping he wins the World Cup & Euros so we can call him Tommy Two-Time 🏆 🏆
England clearly should've gone with Ted Lasso
Who was the last really good English coach who consistently won trophies with club teams? I think that dried up in the 1980's. If Bobby Robson had managed win the 1990 WC, would that have made any difference to the current dearth of good English coaches ?
From a German fan, it will probably end in tears., and the press will be brutal.
I couldn’t care less where the manager is from. We simply do not have a manager of Tuchel’s calibre in England. Good luck to him, we need to back him and support him and the team
Southgate's legacy will be the culture and togetherness within the team. Tuchel will benefit from that I think. He can get straight into the nitty gritty and not worry too much about the other stuff.
I predict he'll give us 2 tournaments and then itll end on a sour note.
Result wise I think we'll win the next Euros....
I'd be perfectly happy if Tuchel opted to drop Kane ... same re. Saka. *No player* is indispensable ... Tuchel won't be bothered about upsetting egos - and that's fine by me. 🙂
Saka can't be dropped hes the perfect rw tha actually tracks back and help defence . Every team has a player they build around . No I'm ot a arsenal fan I actually despise arsenal lol
@@lisapoole4350 *any* player can be dropped - even Saka. To be honest his recent performances for England haven't exactly set the pitch alight, have they.
If there's any player that an England team should be built around (at the moment) it is Palmer. (And I say that as a Newcastle fan).
Will be interesting to see! The Tuchel is a top tournament coach, at Bayern though he really burned bridges with the fans and athletes.
Mr Tucal does not come across as a “Yes Sir” man that the English FA like. This is a huge gamble that will either lead to a trophy or will go off like a Bomb… hence the 18 month Contract..Lets hope as our 3rd Choice (Pep, Klopp etc) he gets us a trophy. After this it will be between the top English Coaches.. Eddie Howe is my favourite
I feel that until more ENGLISH COACHES manage the top EPL clubs it's going to
be harder for the FA to appoint an ENGLISHMAN on a consistant basis.
However if Tuchel delivers the WC title to ENGLAND in 2026 then the ENGLISH fans
will not care his being GERMAN.
Something that goes forgotten is that to win a tournament it requires a collective effort
from the coaching staff as a whole so Tuchel will have ENGLISH coaches on his staff
to help him.
At last, honest, considered and thoughtful discussion about a football topic. The British media think sensationalising and making everything binary is what we all want, as if we’re all thick as f@ck. Gareth Southgate I’m sure wanted to win and very nearly did, but oh how boring it was to watch. Nobody ever remembers the runners up. And nobody will ever look back at our lost finals and think we gave it a good go. I hope Tuchel goes for it, even if we do lose.
Es kommt nach Hause! 🦁🦁🦁
Personally I’m pleased with the appointment. However, I do think saying we shouldn’t have a foreign manager is a perfectly legitimate objection. I actually think it should be a rule that the manager has to come from
The country too.
The German "ch" is like the Scouse "k"! ;-)
Great appointment.
For me, Tuchel came in to Chelsea and instantly spoke better English than Pep, Klopp, Conte or Pochettino have ever done with multiple years of experience.
brilliant coach. difficult character. genius in success, entertaining in failure.
Gareth Southgate was promoted from U21a to senior but yes his point is mostly valid regarding youth coaches getting promoted. Neil Critchley went from Liverpool youth to Blackpool but these are far to few examples of this.
Called it before Southgate got sacked.
He's perfect for the players England have
It makes me laugh when people say but he's German when our Royal family has a big German Heritage. I think it's a good appointment. come on England.
As much as I hope Tuchel does well for us, I’m with Gary and believe the national manager should be a national of said country.
If u want a beer on Saturday eve and the only thing at home is whiskey u take it and will be happy i guess...its the most english that a non-english coach can be lads😊 he will sing sooner or later i bet...so cheer on!
Tuchel's greatest achievement will be to bring Ben White back into the squad
Why aren't there many great English candidates?
The F.A. keep the pool of talent small by making access to courses limited and where there are courses they are ridiculously expensive for anyone wanting to become a coach who isn't an ex- pro from the premier league.
The latest figures I could find for Uefa Pro Licence qualified coaches is from 2017 sums it up why German managers are more successful in English football compared to English managers.
Spain - 2,379
Germany - 861
Italy - 826
Turkey - 548
Czechia - 391
England - 383
Is it any wonder that we have to choose a top candidate from outside England. The pool of highly qualified candidates is so much greater when you look beyond England.
The F.A. needs to open up many more courses at a much more affordable rate and increase the talent.
Eddie Howe. The FA did not even approach him.
I'm still not convinced but this interview makes me feel a bit better. We shall see
Personally would have liked an English manager... I would have liked to see Graham Potter take the job. But it doesn't matter now. We should support him and hope he can get the best out of the players available. COME ON ENGLAND!!
Nobody ever bothered with Klopps Umlaut :P
Speaking Welsh makes it easy to pronounce his name. It would be spelled Twchell! Id England do meet Germany in the final, TT will pick Harry MaGuire as Captain, Henderson and Philips in midfield and Jordan Pickford as a lone striker.
All these people complaining about not having an English manager but they’ve probably not had an English manager manage their club in 20 years 😂
IMO they given him the 18 month deal, because I think that timescale we can get/want Pep and then atleast if we win the World Cup with Tuchel we’ve covered all bases.
Tuchel can repair Player, Rüdiger was nearly sacked at Chelsea but Tuchel saw the Potential and Rüdiger is a German National Team Player at Real Madrid not a bad Recovery
We have a coach fot the national team. He might not have been my choice but he is my coach. He is England. We should get behind him now without question. Lets see where he takes us. I am his fan now.
Maybe he should re-record vindaloo.
Because epl is so popular, so any good coach from spain, German & Portugal they will hire, while a lot of English coach just coach championship club and below until they retire. They just never have a chance.
Why would Newcastle want Eddie Howe to leave?? The premier league has become far more important ( financially) to let a manager go.
You get that Lee Carsley isn't English right?
Yea I think people are forgetting that piece of info lol
How? He was born in Birmingham.
Lee carsley is English he was born and raised in England but has Irish roots choose to represent Ireland as a footballer.
Let's be honest: Southgate had all the luck with the draws at big tournaments....if Tuchel has the same luck he might win it but i can't see them beating France Spain Germany in succession....
0:55 "Diddy take you by surprise!" - Is that a new greeting?
No, it'll be Germany - England final 2-2 at full time. Extra time we score, but goal line tech disallows England goal. It's going to penalties, they think it's all over......
There are no rules about foreign coaches managing national teams. Until there is then there is no issue whatsoever. Dont hate the player hate the game
Tuchel could easily have won 5 trophies at Chelsea, he lost two penalty shootouts to a brilliant Liverpool team at Wembley. He’s a great coach and personality.
I feel pretty confident that as soon as it looks like it isn’t working, and the longer it isn’t working, the more toxic and offensive the punditry will be towards him. Not the fans. The ex-pro pundits. Who are the most toxic contributors to football commentary today. The fans will get on board too of course, they’ll take their lead from the toxic pundits and the tone that will come from them.
Then he’ll be abused as a person. In person and on social media. And the same pundits will talk about how terrible that is. Without irony or shame.
Pretty standard procedure these days.
Yeah but the little englanders are mentally suck in ww11 and that's what it will come down to the fact that he's Germany. Meanwhile Europe has grown up and moved on, I wish him good luck 🙂
All geniuses are mad !
No expectation, time will tell
i could not care less that tuchel won't be buddies with the players, its not a love in. we want trophies. its not a flipping holiday for multimillionaires that it has been treated like these past 10 years.
So called experts .😊
Yeah, Gary and Raphael only have decades of experience... #Troll
I’ve got a question. Do you 3 collect football memorabilia of yourselves? Football cards, football stickers, big head toys ect
Where is the question episode!?!
Good luck to Tuchel, but IMO he’s going to face the same barriers as all his predecessors. he’s only got an 18 month contract. It’s a sad indictment of English football that we have to turn to a foreign manager to manage our national team. And its not Xenophobic; it’s the very point of international football for English players/coaches v other nations’s best. Hiring Tuchel is just a sticking plaster anyway because the underlying structures are not there to help the national team to win major trophies. It’s one of the reasons why England haven’t won a major trophy in 60 years.
Firstly Rafa‘s English is fantastic. Hut ab. Some good insights. Was never a fan of Tuchel it‘ll be interesting who he pisses of first. A real challenge for him.
Raphael Honigstein is a treat - as always: 👍👌👏❤! England? After a dismal, boring and mind-numbing showing at the Euro 2024 that made watching paint dry an exhilarating experience, but earned them a totally undeserved place in the final, maybe they will get better? And then fail again 🤪! Ach, how successful Spanish (-speaking) managers have become 😊.
I fear his ‘love’ for Kane will hold him back, if he follows GS and Carsley by selecting him if unfit , which ch he has been through the Euro’s and last couple games
Or he’ll have the bollocks to tell Kane to play as he does for Bayern rather than the PE teachers approach of letting him do whatever he wanted
I mean Kane under Tuchel had his best season ever… and that was only last year
As a Chelsea fan that won't be the case at all especially with the quality of backup strikers for England. He won't be scared to bench Kane if he isn't performing or has an injury
Get Souness in if it doesn't work out and he can beat up the players when they underperform 😄🏴🤟
I can already sense Bellingham and Tuchel butting heads.
Around 24 minutes in, linekar bringing up less carsleys name like he deserves to be mentioned 😂😂😂
I know of only one coach who has guided a 6th-tier team from Östersund to beat Galatasaray as well as Arsenal (at the Etihad). Guess he's to replace Tuchel, once the "volatility" triggers the English football press and they turn to show their dark side.
Doesnt tuchel play wing backs, hows that going to work